What Are Your Driving Pet Peeves?

so starting off with mine, I hate those who can't drive at a speed limit when on the right lane or who don't follow slower traffic keep left rule.
and people who don't use an indicator on the turning lane or indicate early while turning.

Just hoping people become aware of road rules and whatnot.

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  • +6 votes

    This thread has reminded me of my biggest peeve on the roads. Drivers who can’t cope with other traffic. It’s the roads, not a goat track, there are thousands of other drivers out there.

    Too many drivers seem to think that everyone should be competent, have the right attitude, be in as much of a rush as everyone else etc. The law of averages says that half of drivers are worse than average. A different half have a worse attitude than average. Another different half are in less of a rush than average. Yet another half will have less knowledge/regard of the rules than average. Combine all that together and it’s a wonder anyone can get anywhere on the roads.

    If you go out expecting to be delayed a bit, meet an idiot or encounter someone with road rage you’ll be better prepared and likely end up not having such a stressful drive. ‘Letting it go’ when you see bad driving really helps.

    I note that I need to take a dose of my own advice fairly often getting caught up with anger after someone does something stupid.

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      I note that I need to take a dose of my own advice fairly often getting caught up with anger after someone does something stupid.

      I've found that listening to different music has a big impact.

      Try listening to a classical FM station. Boring, huh? Yeah. But next time a driver does something stupid you are far more likely to think "pfft, idiot" and keep your distance.

      Then try listening to hard rock. Damn what's that moron doing, flash my lights, honk my horn, grrr…

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        My favourite are those with your views. Its what resulted in the parent advisory stickers on albums informing the playlist of my youth. To you I say thank you :-)

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      Yeah some of these are just typical Australian driver thinking.
      One example is where someone said they didn’t like it when people reverse parked coz it held up traffic, that has Aussie attitude all over it, in this country people don’t want to wait a few extra seconds.
      We have some of the most impatient drivers on the road.
      I am guilty of it too when someone is blocking traffic coz they want to turn right or something like that but if people want to reverse park or if a truck is reversing then I am happy to wait.

  • +4 votes

    I'm probably guilty of at least one of the above.

    My pet peeve are the drivers who brake first and then indicate as well as those who do not indicate at all.

  • +6 votes

    People that leave a 3 car gap when stopping at traffic lights.

    People that take their sweet time when they get a green right turn arrow.

    People that slow down before entering a turning lane, or leave their rear end out of the turning lane.

    People that don't have their money/credit card/ticket ready when leaving a car park.

    People that sit in my blind spot, particularly when I'm speeding/slowing to change lanes.

    People that are constantly driving somewhere because they are bored.

    People that drive 10 below the speed limit, or feel it's OK to drop 30 below just because there is an incline.

    People that buy those cars with massive A pillars and rear mirrors that block all visibility to the left.

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    • People txting while driving ( see it all the time from up in my truck )

    • entering a round about and then indicating for a turn while already in the roundabout causing chaos.

    • sitting in the right lane on the highway/freeway doing 80/90 in the 100/110 zone

    SPEEDING UP IN THE OVERTAKING LANE AFTER DOING 30 UNDER FOR THE PREVIOUS 10km

    And of course, the cousins of the overtaking lane bandits, the slow right lane hog who will see me up ahead start indicating for the right lane when a turn is coming and not let me over (in a truck) but will speed up to sit side by side with me between two trailers while my indicator is on for a minute and make me slow down
    and then proceed to slow down even more once I’m behind them and maybe even pop a cheeky brake check in for good measure. (Every bloody day at least once on one particular road for me)

  • +2 votes

    According to Bureau of Infrastructure and Transport Research Economics, during the 12 months ended April 2021, there were 1,133 road deaths. The rate of annual deaths per 100,000 population stands at 4.4.

    My pet peeve is too many drivers prioritise speed over safety.

    • +1 vote

      Australian have been subconsciously trained that they have to drive at the speed in the red circle at all cost, then they get annoyed when it isn’t possible.

      We’ve had such a long time of being trained speed kills but the speed limit is safe that we’ve forgotten the speed limit is a maximum, not a target.

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        wipe off 5 and saves lives - but endanger your own because of tail gaters.

  • +2 votes

    When I give way to people or let them slide in and they do not acknowledge. A simple thanks gesture goes long way, at least I was taught in good old South Africa.

    I try not to get this go to my head.

    one other thing is poor-rich people i.e. who recently got some cash and bought lowest merc/beemer models and consider it absolutely necessary to be (profanity). I dont want to whine anymore.

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      On the other hand, there are plenty of times I’ve let someone in only for the to faff around putting the window down trying to wave to me that I’d rather they drive the car and just say thanks to themselves.

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    When turning right off a main road and there is a dedicated lane just for the right turn.

    It bothers me when the turning car leaves some of the car in the right lane. Blocking right lane traffic, or making them swerve left a bit. My dad does this from time to time and does not get the issue when I point it out to him.

    • +3 votes

      The worst thing is when drivers realise too late they have to turn, and block a lane waiting to join the queue. Perfect situation to cause accidents.

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    Ppl not driving at the speed limit in any lane
    no indicating seems to be an option these days
    drivers on phone
    cut in front when you have made space for buffer
    cutting into your lane at lights in peak hour when lane in front blocked
    crossing continuous line lane markings
    Uber driver's are the worst and should be fined. They are a law into themselves.

  • +1 vote

    Too many to list! Nearly everytime you go out here you'll experience someone doing something illegal while driving.

    One that I will mention is people who have bigger vehicles who don't understand how big it actually is! They're a menace on the roads.

  • +2 votes

    People who are in the left lane and then cut you off only to jam their brakes to make a right turn.

  • +2 votes

    People who tail gate me when I do 40kmh in a 40kmh zone, this includes road work signs.

    People who don't understand round about rules and try to continue to plough through at speed without giving way.
    Duhhh I was here first you're still 5-10 metres from entering I'm already here.

  • +1 vote

    people's cars suddenly turning into turbos on overtaking lanes

    • +4 votes
        • +5 votes

          What's is so difficult in understanding the words together "Keep Left Unless Overtaking"

          Maybe you should think of it this way

          "Right Lane Buddy, move faster or Get the F… Outta The Way"

    • +5 votes

      Yes. Your 110kh/hr on your speedo may not actually be 110km/h, you might actually be going 100kmph.

      Keep left unless overtaking, simple, no ifs or buts.

      • -2 votes

        OK noted, I will make sure to let those hectic eshays in their V8 Commodores speed in peace next time I am on a highway.

        • +1 vote

          Given your speedo may be inaccurate, going actual 110kmph is not speeding. You however, will be breaking a road rule and putting yourself in danger.
          If you see a car approaching fairly quickly from the back, move to the left lane when possible, then move back and continue to overtake after that car has overtaken. If it's taking you forever to overtake a car, consider going back to the left lane and stay put.

          If the other lanes are empty as you noted above, then you're not overtaking, so why do you need the right hand lane?

          • +1 vote

            @Ughhh:

            If you see a car approaching fairly quickly from the back, move to the left lane when possible

            I have a bad experience with this situation. The speeding driver (zooming way over speed limit) had the brilliant idea to overtake me as I was turning left to let him go. I put on my blinker a few seconds before I started turning too! We almost had an accident, and the other driver was mad as hell, showing all kinds of fingers to me. That's why I usually just sit in the lane when I see them coming at high speeds.

            But then again, if I was in the left lane, I could have avoided this altogether, at the price of constantly swerving around other cars who are driving below or way below the speed limit just so I could avoid being in the right lane.

            Don't get me wrong, I also hate people who go 80km/h in the right lane when the speed limit is 110km/h. With current info I have now I will try to avoid staying in right lane when driving at speed limit.

            • +6 votes

              @Blue Cat:

              The speeding driver (zooming way over speed limit) had the brilliant idea to overtake me as I was turning left to let him go.

              I think you reacted too late. A good tip is to keep track of where cars are about every now and then, via the mirror. If a blue SUV was a tiny dot in the mirror before and now you can see the blue SUV properly, chances are they're travelling at a faster speed than you and traffic in general. The blue SUV will continue at that speed, use this information to react accordingly - get out of the right lane before he's even 10 car spaces near you.

            • +1 vote

              @Blue Cat: You don't need to wait for the car behind to be up your arse before you get out of the overtaking lane. As soon as there's no traffic in the left lane, you get back in there.

  • +3 votes

    Drivers realise too late they have to turn, and block a lane waiting to join the queue.
    Common in Sydney traffic.

  • +2 votes

    I don't understand why some people are unable to look further into traffic than whats directly infront of them.

    Case 1: 3 lane road, up ahead there is a car parked on the left lane, not enough space for 2 cars to fit in that lane. Car infront, first in traffic so has better vision, does not change lanes early. Instead, they either wait until the very last few metres to barge in the 2nd lane, or brake and wait for cars in lane 2 to give way to them. Wtf.

    Case 2: Merging, 3 lane road left 2 lanes merging into 1. 3 cars first in traffic can clearly see the merging signs and lanes, but they all decide to go at the same speed (snails pace), till there's no room left and left 2 lanes have to brake and play "you go first" with each other.

    • +3 votes

      Both cases happen very often when I am driving too. It's like people are trying to play stupid and drive in the lane until there is no room to move, and then expect you to feel sorry so you let them in… you had 200 meters to merge, and you chose to merge at the 1 meter mark… yeah nah, maybe someone else will let you merge.

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    Unnecessary High Beams that blind your face off

  • +1 vote

    1) People who don't drive at speed limit, especially those who sit in the right lane. Just get the f*** out the way.
    2) People who use the bus lane.
    3) People who cut me/other people off.
    4) People who use mobile phones. I don't care that you're sitting in a queue of traffic at a red light just put that sh*t down you retard.

  • +1 vote

    In Melbourne, I would estimate around 40% of passenger vehicles are driving at night with badly adjusted/designed/upgraded headlights at night, and driving with foglights on.

    The #1 rule of thumb as a responsible driver is, if you can't see well at night please don't drive, allow someone else with better vision to drive. We need to maintain a standard on the road and you're ruining it for those capable others. Getting brighter bulbs, turning on highbeams, foglights and daytime running lights so you can 'see better' won't solve your poor eyesight, you're going to cause an accident.

    I support a night-time specific drivers license and specific requirements for driver and vehicle to meet standards to be applied nationally. Any vehicle fitted with poorly aimed and overly bright lights must rectify the issue before it is roadworthy. Massive fines apply to those who break the law.

  • +1 vote

    Impatient drivers Stretching the rules just enough to beat everyone else.

    The blatant disregard of continuous single white lines

    Changing lanes on bridges and in tunnels

  • +2 votes
    1. Those who stop too far back from the thick white line and doesn't trigger the right turn arrow
    2. Those who don't know how to consistently trigger the right turn arrow by stopping on the 2nd induction loop which is usually at the third car space
    3. Those who drive too slowly
    4. Those who have slow reaction time
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    1. On the motorway (heading north from Sydney for example) when people don’t understand the left lane, and sit in the middle or right lane. If you’re sitting at or below the limit, sit in the left lane!!

    2. Those who duck into those short left lanes to cheat traffic. I don’t find them fair :(

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    Cutting off corners when turning right.

    I see if more and more, so lazy and just a stupid annoying way for a driver to cause an accident because they can't be bothered to slow down or just lack basic spatial awareness.

    Especially when they realise that they've farked it but then just give you a vacant stare as you reverse so that they can complete their maneuver as thought you were somehow inconveniencing them by being behind the line on your side on the road.

    Argh….

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    I can often deal with bad drivers in the city no problem. But if I take the sports car out through the hills for a drive on my favourite roads. These two really annoy me.

    1: People who drive 10-30kms under the speed limit on country roads, however as soon as the road has an overtaking section they speed up, meaning you have to overly exceed the speed limit to pass them.

    2: People going 10-30km under on a windy road in the hills and not utilizing the "Slow Vehicle Turnout Lanes" when sports cars or sports bikes are clearly behind them waiting to pass.

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    1. People who would over speed to overtake you and then drive 10k below the limit. There is a special lane for them on the highway to hell.

    2. People who would overtake you even when there is not enough gap. They will then have to apply the brakes as they are about the hit the car in front of them.

    3. People who don't know that one can make a u-turn on a roundabout. A car almost hit me once and the driver didn't even bother to say sorry.

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    • People who jump in the left to overtake a tram and proceed to drive at snails pace.
    • People driving with only DRLs at night
    • Cars with cheapo LED headlights
    • People who change lanes constantly in bumper-bumper traffic as if they will get further ahead
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    Creepers.

    I hate being stopped at traffic lights and the queue in front moves forward a space or so when the light is still red. It's some asshat that has stopped too far behind the vehicle in front of them and midway through the red cycle just happens to think…"I'll move forward now…"

  • +3 votes

    Oh boy do I have a lot of these, especially driving in Sydney. I hate all of the below, and doubly so if I see the person is a P plater.

    • People who leave massive gaps in turning lanes, therefore forcing people behind them onto the main road
    • People who leave massive gaps in traffic for no reason. I get leaving a gap in case you get rear ended by a B-Double and don't want to hit the car in front (not that it would matter much because you'd probably be maimed), but this adds more inefficiency on the roads than anything (especially in Sydney where the roads are an absolute joke)
    • People who don't indicate
    • People who indicate one blink of their indicator and then change lanes
    • People who are stuck in a lane and then indicate for half a second and just pull out instead of using their eyes to look for traffic coming up behind them
    • People who turn onto a road and then change lanes, when they could have just got into the correct turning lane in the first place
    • People who turn onto a road then change lanes, then change lanes again back into the original lane they were in, completely pointless.
    • People who do not look early at roundabouts and come to an unnecessary stop, slowing down everyone behind them like the idiot they are
    • Tailgaters
    • People who drive under the speed limit
    • People who drive under the speed limit during peak hour traffic (this happens too damn much)
    • People who speed
    • People who slow down to <1km an hour up to the car stopped in front of them instead of just coming to a complete stop. Driving at 1km when the car is stopped in front of you will not make you get anywhere faster, and it's annoying for people who drive manual cars
    • People who overtake you on country roads who do not wait until they are far ahead of you and just merge right away, kicking up rocks onto your car, completely inconsiderate and rude
    • People Idiots who don't use cruise control on country roads
    • People who, when you overtake them on country roads using cruise control because they are clearly driving slower than you, somehow magically speed up to overtake you again when the traffic conditions have not changed
    • People who sit in other people's blind spot
    • People who do not stay in the left lane on country roads
    • People who suck at reverse and parallel parking - if you can't do either of these you do not deserve to have your licence and the person who taught you sucks at teaching
    • People who speed up to overtake you but then just slow down again anyway
    • People who drive at night without their lights on (seen this too many times in Sydney)
    • People who drive with their hatch open (seen this at least once a year in Sydney)
    • People who speed past you at 20-30 km/hr in the overtaking lane when you're going at the speed limit
    • People who don't freaking headcheck - blind spots are REAL!
    • People who cannot maintain their freaking speed. One second they're 10km below the limit, the next second they're 10km above the limit
    • People who brake on a downhill slope to the point where they're going UNDER the speed limit by 10 km/hr!!!!
    • People who slow down 10 km below the limit when there is 1 drop of rain (i.e. Sydneysiders)
    • People who aren't courteous drivers and don't let you in, even when it's your turn, e.g. at a zipper merge it's your turn but the person who is supposed to let you in doesn't let you in
    • Selfish drivers who drive up the bus lane and cut in because they're so much more important than everyone else and nobody's time is as important as theirs
    • Aggressive drivers who speed and constantly change lanes like a maniac. Go to a race track if you want to drive like that, idiot.
    • Oblivious drivers who don't pay attention to what's happening around them
    • People who don't let you into a turning lane, forcing you to take a massive detour because of how badly designed Sydney roads are. You know how usually if you miss a turn you can just take the next one and double back? Well in Sydney it's often the case if you miss a turn you're basically screwed and have to take a huge stupid detour. I now know why people will do whatever it takes to get off at the right exit, because they think all roads are as bad as Sydney roads
    • People who have stupidly bright headlights and when in traffic, offset their car behind you so their headlights are shining into your side mirror, blinding you, then when you move your car so that their headlight don't shine into your side mirror, they move their car to fix that and blind you again
    • People who make assumptions on the road
    • +2 votes

      Your comment is almost the summary of all the previous comments. Seriously, how long did you take to write all this?

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        Because it’s so ingrained in my head, About 5 minutes.

        • +3 votes

          You probably need to take a chill pill or learn breathing techniques before you drive. Seems like anything anyone does ticks you off.

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            @Euphemistic: Ok, so which one of my points do you think are acceptable behaviours?

            • +2 votes

              @Ghost47: I don’t know, but I hope you are a perfect driver!

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                @Euphemistic: I would say I am pretty good!, I do the opposite of all the points I mentioned, especially the rocks on country roads one, it would suck to get dings in your paint because someone didn’t wait long to overtake you (despite no one behind behind them anyway).

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                  @Ghost47: You must be the worlds most perfect driver…or someone that is always pissed off behind the wheel and is constantly struggling with emotions to the point where driving perfectly is impossible.

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                    @cloudy: Sadly bit of both. As I said in an example on country roads if I overtake someone I ensure to leave a good gap, like 20 m to 30 m at least so that any rocks I kick up has a less likely chance of hitting their bonnet or windshield, but when I drive there are often times when people will overtake me without leaving a gap kicking rocks onto my car.

                    I do the opposite of all those pet peeves, so when I see others do those pet peeves it's frustrating as hell.

                    Another example is using cruise control on country roads. Say I'm in the left lane doing 110 on cruise and I slowly approach the car in front, likely they're doing 108 on cruise because I'm approaching slowly. It makes no sense that 5 minutes after overtaking them and slowly getting away that they'd come up to my rear quickly and then overtake me again, just to sit in front of me (this happens).

    • +2 votes

      I've got to say, just reading through your list gives me the impression that you're one of those drivers who likes to think they're better and more important than everyone else! lol

      • +3 votes

        Half the shit on that list is their own poor time management. :D

        • +3 votes

          Yep. Goes to my point somewhere else. Too many drivers that can’t seem to cope with half (or more) of the drivers on our roads. Take some chill pills, leave a few minutes earlier and driving is a whole lot easier.

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            @Euphemistic: You live in Newcastle. I’d say the same thing if I lived there.

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              @Ghost47: Newie traffic is generally no worse than any other I’ve encountered. We get our share of bozos.

        • +1 vote

          Please elaborate on what points specifically you mean.

          I don’t know how on earth you can assume I’m late or something because of those points, that’s probably the dumbest reach I’ve seen in a while on these forums — and I’ve seen some dumb reaches before.

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            @Ghost47: Not just you. Drivers in general often rushing and because of that are stressed and can’t cope with dodgy driving.

      • -1 vote

        Oh, so the driver who waits in line and doesn’t drive up the bus lane to cut in is the one who thinks they’re more important than others? The one who lets people in when they want to merge? The one who doesn’t leave massive gaps in front of them in traffic and is quick off the mark at lights that are short so if you aren’t quick only 2-4 cars will get through when 4-6 could get through if people paid more attention and were faster? (I.e. in case you missed it these are the opposite of points I made above).

        How does me, doing basically the opposite of all those above points, make me “more important” than others? If anything it makes me more considerate of others. It’s the ones who do the above that are selfish. What you’ve said is seriously stupid and I suggest you actually think for a second who would be the selfish one. Think about someone who speeds and someone who stays at the limit — in your world the person who speeds is not selfish even though they’re probably speeding because they need to get somewhere faster, because their time management sucks.

        Do you seriously think that someone who drives 10km under the limit is being considerate of the people behind them?

        Your comment is just so amazingly stupid and you need to think more.

        • -2 votes

          in your world the person who speeds is not selfish even though they’re probably speeding because they need to get somewhere faster, because their time management sucks.

          No - sometimes I speed a little to get away from drivers like yourself - those who think they're smarter and more important than everyone else.

          Let's go to some of your "peeve" points:

          People who leave massive gaps in traffic for no reason.

          Just because you think it's a massive gap for no reason, there might actually be a reason you don't know about - for example, at every light before, the car in front rolls back when the light changes (could be a new driver) so the driver behind them notices and is leaving a gap to give them some space. You just don't know and are jumping to conclusions.

          People who indicate one blink of their indicator and then change lanes

          Sometimes, there is practically no choice, especially when the car in front suddenly indicates to turn right and there's a big enough gap on the left lane to change. It becomes much more difficult to change lanes once you slow down behind the car now wanting to turn right because you'll then need to find a big enough gap to allow you time to speed up from standstill to go with the flow. So you indicate and go, where possible.

          People who drive under the speed limit

          Good drivers. like you claim to be, would drive to the conditions like when there are lots of pedestrians or more traffic than usual. I'm going to admit that I go over the limit quite regularly, but I also have no hesitation in driving under the speed limit when the conditions dictate that it's sensible to do so.

          People Idiots who don't use cruise control on country roads

          I have cruise control and you sound like you have cruise control, but not everyone else has the luxury of having cruise control as a function in their vehicles. So calling them "idiots" just shows what type of person you are.

          I could go and address each of the other points you've made, but I'd rather point out that you've also got points in there that contradict each other:

          People who sit in other people's blind spot

          and then…

          People who don't freaking headcheck - blind spots are REAL!

          You would know that someone isn't checking their blindspot when you're in their's and they try to change lanes out without checking. If you're checking your blindspot all the time, what difference would it make if someone was in your blindspot? Or do you mean that you don't like other people sitting in YOUR blindspot (because you don't always check)? And when you're sitting in someone else's blindspot, you get pissed off when they don't check their blindspot and try to change lanes into you? You can't have it both ways!

          You've also got:

          Oblivious drivers who don't pay attention to what's happening around them

          and then…

          People who don't let you into a turning lane, forcing you to take a massive detour because of how badly designed Sydney roads are. You know how usually if you miss a turn you can just take the next one and double back?

          You wouldn't miss a turn if you were paying attention in the first place. From the perspective of the drivers already in line, it would appear you're trying to cut in because you're "so much more important than everyone else and nobody's time is as important" as yours (quoting you from another point you made). So it's only okay for you to cut in but, for everyone else, you get the shits because "they think they're more important than everyone else"?

          People who make assumptions on the road

          How do you drive if you don't make assumptions? Most people would assume that others would stick to the road rules.
          It contradicts so many points you've made earlier like the one about people coming to a stop as they come up to a roundabout. You would only NOT come to a complete stop if the roundabout looked empty and you make the assumption that no cars will come speeding up to the roundabout from the another direction.You're also making the assumption that other people are "leaving gaps", "driving under the speed limit" for no reason. Often, it's just because you don't know the reason. Sometimes the car in front can see things that you, sitting behind them, can't see.

          Like I said I could go on.. but it'll just leave it so my comment doesn't form a wall of text (more than it already does!). You've also repeated yourself a few times too, so you probably should look at your own comment first before you start saying my comments are "amazingly stupid and I need to think more".

          • +1 vote

            @bobbified: I'm prefacing this comment with the fact that after reading yours, it's clear that I had to elaborate a lot more on each point when I made my post because you have actually misunderstood pretty much everything I have said, maybe because you're biased as a result of the way I have said things. I'm not faulting you for it, I'm just stating that as a fact.

            No - sometimes I speed a little to get away from drivers like yourself - those who think they're smarter and more important than everyone else.

            Okay, so you admit to speeding on purpose to get away from "drivers like myself", so basically breaking the law because you want to (well done). As I've stated, I don't speed, nor do I drive up bus lanes and cut into traffic, nor do I immediately overtake people on country roads because it can put their car paint at risk by kicking up stones. How you can claim that I think I'm smarter and more important than others on the road, especially after I've stated these things is straight up silly. If I thought myself that important, I would not drive the way I do, I would speed everywhere, I would drive up bus lanes to bypass peak hour traffic, and I would certainly overtake people on country roads immediately after overtaking them because screw their paint.

            Just because you think it's a massive gap for no reason, there might actually be a reason you don't know about - for example, at every light before, the car in front rolls back when the light changes (could be a new driver) so the driver behind them notices and is leaving a gap to give them some space. You just don't know and are jumping to conclusions.

            Clearly I have to clarify this (even though I said for no reason, meaning no foreseeable reason — of which leaving a gap on an incline road to prevent accidents due to rollback is actually damn clear and obvious reason for leaving a gap which I have no issue with).

            First up, when I say "massive" gap, I mean a gap of at least 1 average cars length, and by "average car" I mean your typical family sedan (despite the world moving more towards SUVs), so about 4-5 metres long. I think the word "massive" is suitable descriptor in this situation.

            Secondly, I drive a manual car so I know very well that leaving at least some space between cars is important to consider roll back (although handbrake starts are a thing just FYI and most newer cars have hillstart assist).

            Thirdly a gap of one average cars length (e.g. 4-5 metres) in pretty much all situations is just ridiculous and completely unnecessary even when accounting for the roll back of a car in front of them. I would hate to drive on roads where everyone left a gap that size because that would mean traffic would stretch a lot further than it already does.

            Fourthly, when I made that point, I was taking into consideration what I have seen on the roads — people leaving massive gaps on roads that are NOT inclined and therefore gaps that are completely unnecessary to leave (for example in crawling peak hour traffic where there's no chance any rear end situation would lead them to smash into the car in front of them). If it was any other case (e.g. leaving a large gap due to being on a steep hill) it would be stupid AF to complain about that. There are actually people who leave stupid size gaps in front of them for no reason, that is what I have an issue with.

            Sometimes, there is practically no choice, especially when the car in front suddenly indicates to turn right and there's a big enough gap on the left lane to change. It becomes much more difficult to change lanes once you slow down behind the car now wanting to turn right because you'll then need to find a big enough gap to allow you time to speed up from standstill to go with the flow. So you indicate and go, where possible.

            Please read the VicRoads handbook again. The website states:

            You must always use your indicators for long enough to warn others that you are making a turn, changing lanes or changing direction.

            If the car ahead of you "suddenly" indicates to turn right and you cannot safely indicate for long enough to warn any drivers in the lane you're moving into — you are probably driving too closely to the car in front or too fast and not considering how quickly that car is slowing down. Since you say you speed on purpose, I would suggest this is what your issue is. Boy I would hate to be that person in the left lane, you would probably smash into me because you were too impatient to wait behind the turning car.

            Good drivers. like you claim to be, would drive to the conditions like when there are lots of pedestrians or more traffic than usual. I'm going to admit that I go over the limit quite regularly, but I also have no hesitation in driving under the speed limit when the conditions dictate that it's sensible to do so.

            Do you seriously think I would complain about people driving slowly because the conditions require it? I have no problem with people driving to conditions. When I said "People who drive under the limit" I mean people who do that for no reason. For example, driving on quiet roads at night and they're doing 10 km under the limit with no one in front of them. I guess that sort of thing doesn't bother you — which would be strange because you seem to enjoy speeding everywhere.

            Before you call out my point about Sydneysiders driving 10 km below the limit at "1 drop of rain" you should realise that "1 drop of rain" (or a drizzle because that was hyperbole) really does not require people to slow an entire 10 km below the limit.

            I have cruise control and you sound like you have cruise control, but not everyone else has the luxury of having cruise control as a function in their vehicles. So calling them "idiots" just shows what type of person you are.

            Yes, clearly I am calling the person driving the 1970s Porsche or 1980s Toyota an idiot because their car lacks cruise control. It's like telling off a 12 year old for not having their full drivers licence, do you understand how stupid that kind of comment is? Why the hell would I be mad at people whose car doesn't have cruise control in the first place? I cannot believe I need to explain to you that obviously I am talking about people who have cruise control and can use it but don't on country roads.

            You would know that someone isn't checking their blindspot when you're in their's and they try to change lanes out without checking. If you're checking your blindspot all the time, what difference would it make if someone was in your blindspot? Or do you mean that you don't like other people sitting in YOUR blindspot (because you don't always check)? And when you're sitting in someone else's blindspot, you get pissed off when they don't check their blindspot and try to change lanes into you? You can't have it both ways!

            Uh, yes I can have it both ways actually. I don't sit in people's blind spots myself, I either slow down or speed up (if the limit allows for it) so that the person has a greater chance of seeing my car in their window or side mirror. And I always headcheck when changing lanes.

            I am speaking for others for this point, because it is dangerous for them. Let me give you an example. I am car A in the left lane. Car B next to me is in the middle lane. Car C is in the rightmost lane. I am mad at car B for sitting in the blind spot of car C (the first point I made), because car C changed lanes and didn't bother to check their blindspot (second point) so hit car B. Do you now understand why I said what I said? Do you actually think it's okay not to headcheck and to sit in people's blindspots? Why would anyone ever try to justify that those two points are a good thing…..

            You wouldn't miss a turn if you were paying attention in the first place.

            This is really cute. You think that when I said "Oblivious drivers who don't pay attention to what's happening around them." that it was the same thing as understanding the layout of the road network. I'll tell you what I do when I drive. When I drive, I always make sure I am aware of the cars around me. I make sure I'm aware if there's a car in my left or right blindspots, if there's any cars behind me (and how many), how far ahead in front the car ahead of me is (if there is one) etc. You know, basic stuff. That is not at all the same as understanding the road network itself.

            Understanding which lane to be in, when to turn and how to generally get from point A to B is not something I expect of others. Therefore, if someone needs to merge last minute because for example the turning lane traffic stretched for two intersections, I have no issue with that especially if they've never driven on that road before.

            From the perspective of the drivers already in line, it would appear you're trying to cut in because you're "so much more important than everyone else and nobody's time is as important" as yours (quoting you from another point you made). So it's only okay for you to cut in but, for everyone else, you get the shits because "they think they're more important than everyone else"?

            First of all, I never cut in even when I miss a turn actually. If I miss a turn, I will take a detour. Just like how if I miss an exit on the freeway, I will not stop in the left lane and reverse or at the last second dangerously cut across 4 lanes like an idiot. As I said, in Sydney these detours are often long, hence the frustration in the first place. Where did I say I cut in when I miss a turn by the way, or is that something you made up in your head to make me seem like a selfish driver?

            How do you drive if you don't make assumptions? Most people would assume that others would stick to the road rules.

            Here's an example. I am turning onto a 60 km road where there is no traffic light. A car is approaching indicating left (i.e. to turn into the road I am exiting). There is a car behind me. I do not pull out when the car approaching is 15 metres away assuming the car turning left, will actually turn into the road I am exiting. I WAIT until the car actually starts to turn, THEN I pull out. Lmao, assuming others stick to the road rules. I don't even need to state how stupid that is when you yourself said you will speed to get away from "drivers like me" or willingly and often break the speed limit. I guess you know what they say about people who make assumptions…

            It contradicts so many points you've made earlier like the one about people coming to a stop as they come up to a roundabout. You would only NOT come to a complete stop if the roundabout looked empty and you make the assumption that no cars will come speeding up to the roundabout from the another direction.

            It only "contradicts" those points because I wasn't clear enough for you and gave you enough opportunity to make up scenarios in your head to fit your argument. It seems you don't understand the difference between assuming a roundabout is empty, and seeing with your own eyeballs that there is obviously no one around so coming to a crawl is completely unnecessary and silly.

            You're also making the assumption that other people are "leaving gaps", "driving under the speed limit" for no reason. Often, it's just because you don't know the reason. Sometimes the car in front can see things that you, sitting behind them, can't see.

            You're making the assumption that these people are doing it for a good reason, or were you there in the car with me when I was sitting behind the driver in peak hour doing 10 km under the limit when there was a massive gap in front of them, or when I was coming to a clearly empty roundabout at 11 PM at night but the driver ahead of me came to a complete stop unnecessarily? As I said, I should have written each point in at least 50 words to ensure I covered all my bases. If you think people complain that others are driving too slowly because they actually have to, or that they leave gaps because they have to, and that I am complaining about those people — you are clearly on a different planet.

            Not once would I hate on someone who is on a steep incline and has left half a cars length (ample space) to the car in front of them to consider rollback. If it was one car length forcing me to sit halfway off the driveway onto the main road, yeah it would annoy me actually because a) one car length on an incline is still a huge amount of space for someone to roll backwards and b) I'm now sitting halfway onto the road meaning I either end up blocking traffic or there's just more unnecessary traffic on the road. Not once would I hate on drivers who slow down 10-20 km in rain so heavy that even the fastest wiper speed doesn't clear water off their windshield. Not once would I hate on someone slowing down at a roundabout during peak hour when bushes on either side and in the middle of the roundabout causes lower visibility.

            You seem to think that I am unreasonable in my pet peeves, but you've frankly misconstrued everything I said, not exactly your fault because I should have catered to someone like you and elaborated more on my points to make myself clear in the first place.

            I'll just add as well, I know you want to be right about me to the point where you will make up things that I must be angry about, but it helps to actually understand what I'm saying in the first place and not jump to conclusions such as I am angry at other drivers because they should use cruise control even when their car doesn't have cruise control, or that they are leaving large gaps for a reason. I don't actually get angry at those sorts of things, it's when people HAVE cruise control and don't use it, or when people leave large gaps for no reason whatsoever, such as on a flat road in peak hour traffic (which actually result in less cars getting past the light when it turns green).

            I have to say though, it's extremely ironic for you to say I'm a selfish driver when you are the one who admits to speeding frequently and willingly, as if the speed limit doesn't apply to you. You are the one who thinks they are smarter than everyone and more important than others because everyone else must be a sucker for driving at the limit and they are not important enough to go over the limit like you can.

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          Thanks for reinforcing my opinions. Drivers can’t cope with drivers who aren’t competent, yet half of all drivers are less competent than average - and the average isn’t great.

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      People who drive at night without their lights on (seen this too many times in Sydney)

      I think this is one of the most dangerous ones, and I can not comprehend what is the evolutionary logical reason that people do this.

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        I think people can just be oblivious which is scary, unless their lights have blown out or something. I see it way too often.

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    I've noticed this a few times now — very annoying. People (not buses/taxis/motorcycles who are allowed) who are in bus lanes, and drive through when the white "B" light comes on.

    Maybe people are catching on. I wonder if it counts the same as running a red light? I mean it's technically safe but still…

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    For me, it would be some antics I've experienced in bumper to bumper traffic. E.g. 4 lanes, cars merging to both lanes. Stop start traffic on lanes #1 and #2. Very slow crawl on #3 and #4. Car in #2 want to join lane #3. Pet peeve would be when cars in lane #2 try and join #3 when the speed difference is too great - e.g. lane #2 is stopped, lane #3 is running. Trying to join from lane #2 means that a car in #3 will have to come to a complete stop, then wait for lane #2 to start moving so that the car in lane #2 can actually maneuver into lane #3. Another pet peeve in this situation is where the car in lane #2 will leave their blinkers running continuously while they are at full stop or very slow traffic. It causes everyone in lane #3 to start guessing whether this car might dart out when lane #2 starts moving again and it isn't easy to let them in without holding everyone up.

    First situation I don't like because while I don't mind letting cars in, when there's too great a speed difference between the lanes (#2 stopped, #3 has started moving) then #3 will have to come to a complete stop and wait for #2 traffic to move so that they can hop in (if they do decide to hop in - they might decide not too or wait for a larger gap causing an even bigger holdup in lane #3). Just causes confusion (cars will pass the indicating car as they don't want to stop and wait for #2 to resume moving and hold everyone up. When #2 starts moving, cars in #3 may still not give way even if #2 now thinks they can hop in.) Second situation is similar. Leaving indicator blinkers on just causes confusion. In these situations I would prefer if cars in lane #2 waited until their lane started moving, then indicating. Cars in #3 can now create a safe gap faster without holding everyone up and there's less confusion.

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    Drivers who make a left or right but swing out of their lane as they make the turn, which I presume is to avoid hitting the kerb as they turn.

    Idiots. You'll hit the car next to you in the other lane.

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      Ahhh yes…. Those 'truck turn' drivers, normally in a small car too!

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        If only they knew driving forward a bit more does the SAME thing

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          And you also get the opposite with multi lane turns where people can't stay in their lane.
          For example in Regent Street in Sydney in the City, three lanes turn right. And then the road turns to the right.
          https://goo.gl/maps/uKdddj6iqNpXUsD49

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    This is not about others but still annoying big time, its cruise control! It always hurt my foot as I have to put my foot above the break but not to press on the break for the whole cruise controlling period, just to remain in control if a sudden stop happens. My foot becomes very sore after keeping that posture for a while! Seriously, how people can use cruise control like that???

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      Surely just put your foot on the accelerator? You can press it in a little without affecting the cruise control speed, and move your foot across to the brake if you think you might need to stop, just like driving normally.

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      If there are too many hazards I tend not to use cruise control, like in heavy traffic or where I need to speed up or slow down a lot, like where there are roundabouts or lights etc. Also when following other vehicles where the driver can't maintain their speed. When I use it, I rest my foot on the foot rest, I get the most use out of it on longer drives. I have been able to brake for animals, including 3 roos, without issue. Anything else I've had plenty of warning.

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      I had the issue of a sore foot when I first used cruise control but my foot seem to have gotten used to it. I can relate to what forged said though, rest it on the accelerator and your foot will definitely shift across to brake if needed just from reflex. Cruise control actually lets me focus with my eyes ahead a lot more better when I don't need to keep checking my speedometer

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      Oh my dear deity. You have no idea what a cruise control is for. If you are using it where you need to keep you foot over the brake pedal you are going it wrong. It’s meant for when you can maintain a safe constant speed without braking every few seconds.

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    My recent pet peeve is people who stop 3 car lengths away from another car, then creep forward over the next minute or two.

    I have a notorious stretch of road I get stuck in daily that is a decent incline. It is always full, bumper to bumper. It's a pain rolling a manual car up the hill over and over just to ensure other road users can actually enter the stretch of road.

    edit: Noted other people have the same issue

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      My recent pet peeve is people who stop 3 car lengths away from another car, then creep forward over the next minute or two.

      Leaving a large gap is annoying enough, but leaving a large gap only to start creeping forward once you've come to a stop behind them, on an incline, in a manual car is extremely frustrating.

      Not frustrating enough to stop driving manual though.

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    Tailgaiting

    Not using keep left unless overtaking rule

    People who don't realise their headlights aren't on at night - I find myself getting the attention of a driver doing this every week and I only tend to drive twice a week

    Light jumpers

    People who block intersections

    Not paying attention at lights (often also need to horn someone - whether they're in my lane or not - sometimes its a car next to me that has a green arrow to turn but they're oblivious.

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    Round abouts - specially the smaller ones in Sydney where mum’s in their big SUV’s come hurtling down at the speed of light doing school drops or whatever. I nearly got t-boned last week and the same person also has the audacity of honking at me!! For these people coming from my right is all that matters not who entered it first

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    If theres a quick green, people who let the car ahead get 3 or 4 carspaces infront before moving. Then only 2 or 3 cars get through instead of say 8. Efficiency people! Help each other out.

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      People seem to think that there must be a good reason to leave massive spaces in front of them on the road. It just leads to inefficiency, especially when people are also slow off the mark. It is way more important in Sydney too, roads are just terribly congested so efficiency is extremely important.

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    People who care too much about what's going on around them and too much in a hurry…. I am never late, nor am I early, I arrive precisely when I mean to.

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    Sydney drivers - if you are turning left, you do not need to swerve right to get more space to turn left! Your vehicle can turn left perfectly! Vice versa for turning right.

    It shits me cause they cross into my lane.

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      I see this all the time in Melbourne too. They think they're driving a huge truck or something!

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      Totally. Surely it must be done subconsciously. It’s the only way I can understand such a move

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    Drivers that intend to turn right at a double lane intersection but don't indicate until the very last minute.

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    Crossing double white lines to enter the turning lane earlier, this happens either at the lights or at a T-junction when the slip lane is only starting to appear from your current lane and there's someone who has decided go drive outside of the road - either on the lane for oncoming traffic or through marked parking spaces to cut the queue.

    Also people hanging on horn for the most mild of inconveniences. Yes people make mistakes on the road but unless it's actually life threatening or you need to warn other users beyond a blip to get someone's attention at the lights is in most cases unnecessary.

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    People who tailgate even when you're already spending

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    I really can't add anything beyond what's already been said here - but in a consolidated form - people who prioritise politeness on the roads over predictability.

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    Drivers that miss their turn or exit and then stop/hold up traffic while they either try to reverse or block a lane until they can get back. (And seeing some idiot reverse in the shoulder of a freeway is scary AF)
    If you miss a turn then, that's your mistake, unfortunate as that may be, but it is not then fair to endanger those around you. Just drive to the next turn off and go back. (And yes if that's a number of kilometres on a freeway then so be it. The danger of trying to go back is far higher then the cost of being late.)

    Oh and distracted drivers - get your hand off it. The number of people that think you can't tell they are looking at the their phone in the lap etc. Sheesh.

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    People who drive in the middle of 2 lanes - and off course at 40 on a 60 speed limit. Irritating the hell out of those following them without giving them an option to overtake on either lanes…My observation is these are mostly older people, so I try not to get irritated (maybe lane sense gets diminished with older age?)

    People who don't advance into the intersection for a right turn in a busy interesction. Means, they're the only car that can make the turn when the signal turns red. Again quite annoying when there are 5 or 6 cars waiting to make a turn

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      And sometimes they never advance; until 3 cycles of the lights then they decide to go straight.

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    People in white Corollas, i30s, etc. They can't drive to save themselves. Worst drivers on the road by far.

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      nope. parents with SUVs around drop off and pick up time.

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        As someone who works at a school… OMFG parents at drop off and pick up time are an absolute menace. Illegal parking, illegal u-turns, speeding, ignoring crossing guards, crossing the road 20m from the crossing, diagonally, the list goes on.

        The shit I see when I help out of a morning shocks me to the core. Mums in SUV's are some of the most entitled arsehole drivers on the road, by far.

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    Tailgaters, people who don't indicate or do it after they've already turned. People who take ages to react to a green light and move.

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    people that sways to the opposite direction first to turn, this isn't the WRC, no need to do a Scandinavian flick before turning