1TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD SATA Internal Solid State Drive 560MB/s MZ-77Q1T0BW with 20% down to $122.40
Accoriding to the Samsung site this model qualifies for $16 cashback 1TB MZ-77Q1T0BW
https://www.samsung.com/au/offer/ssd-cashback-2021/
Alsewhere its been suggested Futu Online fall under 'K.S. COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY' so qualifies.
If I already have a 1tb PCIE4 NVMe SSD, will this be a significant bottleneck as extra storage, specifically for game storage? Or should I spend the extra for something like a Kingston A2000 (around $139)? A few online videos state there is "negligible difference in real world performance for game loading times" between SATAIII or NVMe storage
That quote you provided says it all. Any ssd is worlds ahead of a hdd, so this won't be a bottleneck for game load times. I just love the fact that m2 ssds don't require cables and keep my system much neater.
this guy SSDs
Is the sentence about HDD just a side note? Jengel didn't mention any HDD, did they? (Legit question as I'm confused what's the answer to Jengel's)
It's just a side note- valid though as HDDs should never be used to store rapid-access data like game files. Best used as video storage for local playback and that's about it
@mikezillakind: This can work quite effectively assuming you have memory bandwidth (RAM) and available NVME capacity.
I use PrimoCache for this purpose (100GB cache against a 2TB game storage drive and 500GB's worth of SATA SSD's). There have been a few videos on the subject from Linus Tech Tips that are worth a watch.
Advantage is I don't need to think about where to install a game, just load it a couple of times and it's faster than SATA speeds (SSD and HDD).
@Jengel: Sure they can. Run a nice RAID array and you can easily go over a standard SSD speed (controller depending).
@Tacooo: This isn't really true - the mechanical RAID array is worse in every single metric apart from sequential transfer speed, and this isn't a metric that helps with "rapid-access data like game files".
Today's crappiest single SSDs have a random-access time way lower than the fanciest mechanical RAID arrays. This random-access latency is much more important for "real world" performance of everything other than giant file copies.
The mechanical RAID array is not faster for most tasks.
Sorry, yeh it was just a side note. Just making the point that the jump from hdd to sata ssd is massive and very noticeable. The jump from sata to nvme ssds is far smaller in the majority of cases (when gaming)
i can notice the difference between sata and pcie gen 4 nvme for game loading, it's about a few second slower in cs go
Negligible :D
if i can notice it, it's not negligible, did it give me a slightly worse gaming experience, sure it did, i'm used to game loading a few seconds faster
@ln28909: I'm not going to claim to have tested load times, I'm only going off what I see in reviews. It seems the biggest difference you will see is a couple of seconds, with most coming in around a second or less. I guess Cs go is one that benefits a bit more.
Personally, I would choose nvme too over sata, but a sata ssd isn't going to cause anyone issues
@ln28909: You clearly don't know the definition of negligible. Also if your definition of a worse gaming experience is having to wait *gasp* a second extra *gasp* then I feel sorry for you.
@Tacooo: i play cs go on a 5950x and 3080, i care about the little difference, playing on anything less than a 2080 ti is unplayable to me for example
@ln28909: "Unplayable".
Holy hell get over yourself. If you actually think your 3080 is getting 100% utilisation from CS:GO you're clearly delusional and have zero idea what you're talking about.
@ln28909: What a weak response. "Not at the level" is a pretty bold assumption too. Again, if games are unplayable on anything below a 2080Ti for you then I imagine the last 50 years were hell.
@Tacooo: if you can't appreciate the difference and i can, what other response do you want me to give, and i only started playing games since covid
I have windows on 1tb QVO,
also 1TB Samsung nvme for other OS, i think nvme shines when working with big files, 5GB+ and thats why i got it.
having said that i have no plans to upgrade the QVO for windows - it feels just like any other SSD mostly.
I think you would notice if you copy lots of data around as in sustained writes and probably less endurance.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2116-storage-speed-game-load…
Has some results comparing the fastest pcie4 drives to sata. Even has a 12TB hdd in the list too
cheers, grabbed one
Also available through Computer Alliance Ebay and with the $16 Samsung cashback it works out 8 cents cheaper for eBay plus members. Mentioning this in case Futu sells out since it lists it as limited quantity remaining.
870 evo 1tb slightly cheaper than anywhere else I have found online with discount too, for those interested.
Sorry guys, silly question - is it worth for this price if I repurpose it with external disk enclosure as an external SSD storage (as opposed to installing it in computer)? Thank you
give the current shortage for everything chip, maybe worth it. Check the 1TB T5 price.
I spent a bit more and put an A2000 in an external NVME enclosure. Great to take games between machines, backups etc.
Bought the enclosure for work anyway (~$60) for cloning/resizine NVME laptop drives.
Given you generally use externals in a hurry rather than as plugged in constantly, I'd recommend splurging the extra ~$50 for higher speed.
Sorry if I sound silly. Can I use this to replace HDD on my windows laptop Core i5? Will it bring it back to life from the slowness? It is about 8 years Acer laptop.
yes, will bring it back to life
I did it few years back and I am still using my laptop… U will feel much much better on loading time. I suggest u to try it… If u still not happy with the speed, u can always use it as additional storage.
very likely yes, samsung even offers migration software (you need to use external enclosure), but the process is easy… However, there might be bigger experts here on this topic than me, as well as you might offer some more details on your computer specs :)
Yes, Had a 5 y/o laptop with 1tb hdd. Upgradded to ssd and it became 2-3 times faster. Then made the 1TB hdd into an external hardrive.ezpz.
If you want to keep it for another 8 years I'd say spend a bit extra for non QVO. (e.g. $31.60 more for an MX500 which is faster and higher endurance TLC).
how do you get the cash back
Samsung website.
have done it on past deals, took, i dont know, maybe 6 weeks but cashback received
afterpay takes another 10 off….
Do I need to add a code or does it take additional $10 off on it’s own? I could not see $10 off on the item summary page after switching to afterpay.
there's a code afterpay10
I could be wrong but I doubt the codes stack????
@9hundred: the comment above "take another 10 off" could be taken, as another $10 off the already discounted price", that's the way I read it.
Did not let me stack another one.
Is the 860 better than the 870?
No, 860 QVO and 870 QVO are very very similar.
The 870 QVO is the newer version of the 860 QVO
Likewise the 870 EVO is the newer version of the 860 EVO.
The EVO range is better than QVO
Doesn't the 870 series have much more endurance? I have seen conflicting info. Or maybe I am just confused :)
I haven't looked at the specs but the 870 being the newer version it's quite possible.
My point was not to confuse the EVO and QVO SSDs which have the same numbers
Doesn't the 870 series have much more endurance?
Not really - https://www.anandtech.com/show/15887/the-samsung-870-qvo-1tb… - it's basically just a tweaked 860.
Endurance is a none-issue anyway - if you're doing extreme-write workloads then none of these drives are suitable.
For "normal" use then 860 QVO and 870 QVO have many times more endurance than you'll ever need.
Why it seems the cash back amount from Samsung getting less and less?
Could someone please teach me about the hard drive connectors. I have an old NP550P5C laptop from Samsung that uses an old HDD almost broken. I recently tried to see if the Macbook HDD could fit instead, but it does not. What specs to look for in an HDD to make sure it fits? Or do I need to buy some converter or adapter?
Does your Samsung laptop have this drive inside ?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/131634727611
If yes, that's just a standard 2.5" SATA drive, and the SSD in this deal will fit (it's also a standard 2.5" SATA drive).
Thank you, I just found that this part may be removable and attached into the SSD: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/292315407745
It was this connector that confused me, but thank you for replying :)
Yep, it's common for the hard drive to be in a cradle/tray with something plugged in to the connector - just transfer all this stuff to the new drive same as the old drive.
@Nomad2233: You can just put a bit of foam in to "thicken" the drive if you need to - depending on how the laptop mounts the drive, some (most ?) are fine with thinner ones.
SSDs don't have moving parts so you only need to make sure the drive can't fall out of it's connector rather than make sure it's rigidly mounted like a mechanical drive…
Hopefully samsung can do cashback
This is a better deal. $122 and you get a $16 cashback which makes this $106
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/174412012723?_trkparms=aid%3D111…
Mine only shows 10% ff for that deal, making it about $125.10, adding $16 cashback = about $109.
Can someone explain up to $246 cash back when the item is only AU $153.00 ?
It is UP TO… So assuming you have to buy their biggest SSD to get that back
I'm itching for a 4TB deal and still kicking myself for missing out on the EVO 8604TB deal that happened some months ago :(
Bring it back Samsung, do it with a EVO 870 model I care not, or even a QVO 4TB but make it a good one. :)
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/184791273079
$512 - $50 eBay plus coupon - $60 Samsung cashback = $402
Good price today 👍
EDIT : actually I'm not sure that seller is included in Samsung's list - this might be a better option for $4 more https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/264835091557
Scorptec are included in the Cashback scheme :)
Nom, excellent work mate , thanks for sounding off!
Now that I also see the 8TB one yet still very costly and out of my reach atm.
pretty much decent ssd for basic and gaming use. not really ideal for write heavy use eg: huge file/backup transfers.
recommended external case for this?
Also if you prefer the EVO drives, 1TB 870 EVO for $147.20 delivered ($122.20 after cashback)
$194.00 at the moment
$155.20 after PFTUO10
$147.20 after cash back (Shopback $1 cashback per $20 celebration swap GC x8)
$122.20 after Samsung cashback ($25 for 1TB MZ-77E1T0BW)
What's the surveying with the Evo?
Anyone know the key differences between 870 EVO vs 870 QVO? Planning to use it for PS5 storage.
EVO has faster read/write and longer warranty period (+2 years) than QVO
@Serapis: Yep, if the price difference is only $20 (1TB) then I would buy the EVO.
If you want a larger drive like 4TB then the price difference is a lot bigger - the bigger QVOs are significantly better units (bigger SLC cache) than the small ones so I'd go QVO at the 4TB size for PS5/Gaming/Normal use.
@Serapis: Faster? Both QVO and EVO seem to have 560MB/s read and 530MB/s write speed. But I'd probably still go for EVO for the better TBW/warranty.
Hmm. I'm new to this stuff. Do you have to purchase the drive through the shopback app?
Nah you just go to the Samsung Cashback website and it’ll ask for the drives serial number and something other stuff
Hi @Serapis,
Can you please explain the celebration swap GC x 8? When I click through the Celebration Swap gift cards it takes me to EBay gift cards with 3% cashback in Shopback.
Yeah I was bit confused too you need to specially find the Celebration Swap gift cards not the Ebay ones. Should be under Retail & Shopping.
Yep this, it's a separate gift card, not the normal ebay one. You get 5% cashback specially with the celebration swap $20 GC. Anything more than the $20 one is only 4%.
Is this a good drive for reliable family photo storage
Onedrive, holmes.
Google photos… AI is awesome with photos
Any drive is fine for this, but you'll need to buy more than one so you can take regular backups 👌
dont bother storing photos into little device like this. Risk such as theft, left it somewhere, failed hardware, house fire, dropping into toilet bowl, etc etc is too high. Chuck it into google photos and you will never have to worry about backup. It's the thing of the past.
And if you pay for google one, you can store original resolution photos.
Chuck it into google photos and you will never have to worry about backup. It's the thing of the past.
You always have to worry about backup - any ransomware, account compromise, accidental deletion, account lockout and plenty of other scenarios can quite easily toast your Google data.
Backup. Always.
Anyone managed to successfully get cashback into their account? I'm still waiting.. validated for months now but still nothing in account.
Yes, be patient!
So strange that it takes so long after validation. Thanks for your reply.
one of mine took about 6 weeks
I was worried about the length of time taken for my cash back too. My claim was validated on 19 April, and I just received the rebate in my bank account last night, 3 June. So, 45 days for me.
Chia Crypto anyone?
…and shorten your SSD lifespan.
Any Samsung QVO drive is absolutely the wrong drive to use for Chia - you really need a high endurance enterprise drive.
Qualifies for Cashback via Redemption as Futu Online will be invoiced under 'K.S. COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY'