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4TB NAS Drives Seagate Ironwolf or WD Red Plus $143.20 ($139.62 eBay Plus) Delivered @ Futu Online/PCByte eBay

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Original Coupon Deal

Appears to be a good deal. Both these products are comparable NAS drives
Futu online product (Seagate Ironwolf) has a 22% off deal(PEOFY22) and the PCByte (WD Red Plus) has a $10 off (PPSS100), making both items $139 shipped

PCByte Deal
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/224492473936

Futu deal
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/233721405704

Both drives come with 3 yr warranty (Seagate offers a data recovery service as well). Seagate is a 5900rpm vs 5400 rpm for WD. WD is slightly quieter and with better power consumption. Both are CMR drives with 180TB/yr rated workload so better for a 24/7 operation

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  • +4 votes

    Thanks OP.
    Always grab one of these for a spare for my unraid server.
    Now to hunt for some deals on the 8tb to see if it's worth upgrading my parity.

  • +1 vote

    4TB… remember when 40meg was seen as huge - then tiny…

    Now 4TB has passed to tiny with 18TB's out there.. wont be long till they are small

    • +4 votes

      Minimum 8tb these days for me.

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        Agree… For the prices these days why wouldnt you :)

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      I don't think 4TB is tiny. It's not like the old days when storage was just for computers; a 512GB phone is a lot, 4TB can store a big archive of movies, music.

      And then we also have high-speed nvme, 1TB of that is big.

      Big and small storage is not as black and white as it once was.

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    Any issues with using NAS drives as a standard HDD in a desktop?

    • +1 vote

      They all come out of the same factory with same parts with slightly different settings, functionalities and warranty.

      In practice, it should work perfectly fine on a desktop

      • +1 vote

        They all come out of the same factory with same parts

        That's not true.
        Do you know what SMR is?

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          Yes, I am aware of what SMR is. I know the WD drive listed above is not SMR and while I haven't checked the Seagate, I'm almost certain none of their NAS drives are all CMR.

          Most desktop hard drives today are likely SMR. For most intents and purposes, asking about desktop functionality means that these drives will for most purposes function the same for what @Tomcat173 wants / needs.

          Going into the specifics of parts meanwhile is not something I'm entirely qualified to talk about - but just because a drive is SMR / CMR does not mean they can't share the same platter / read/write heads. A lot of the SMR tech is in the software and implementation. IIRC, SMR drive can / do have areas of it that are 'CMR' to improve write speeds

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      They should work fine but NAS drives are designed to be on 24/7 inside a server. Not sure if repeatedly shutting down and starting would effect the life span of the drive.

    • +2 votes

      Not really, though the drive may not try as hard to recover a bad block.

      Full answer, the main difference between NAS and desktop drives (endurance aside) is NAS drives have TLER (time limited error recovery) enabled to avoid your RAID array dropping out from the drive continually trying a bad block.

      In the past you used to be able to enable TLER on most drives until the HDD manufacturers figured they could open another market segment and disabled the option on desktop drives.

      You may be able to enable TLER on the NAS drive so it acts like a desktop drive again.

      (These days TLER isn't as relevant to consumer NAS anyway as they usually handle drive errors themselves.)

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      Nowadays the difference between desktop drive / nas drive is fairly minimal to none. Major difference is that NAS drive does not have self-correction / self-repair in its firmware.

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      No issue, Nas drives are built to last longer and generate less heat due to their use case being closer to other hdds than in a regular computer. Hence NAS drives are more expensive. It is just not recommended to use a regular hdd in a NAS the other way around is fine.

  • -1 vote

    Which would be better - WD or Seagate?

    • +3 votes

      After my recent experiences i wont touch WD again any time soon.
      Multiple issues of SMR / Failed drives / Terrible support

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        I've had 2x WD fail and before that same with Seagates…

        WD warranty was piss easy to deal with… check warranty status, log a job, print off return label thing, post it off, and wait for a drive to come back. took 2-3 weeks all up.

        YMMV

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          Did you get a brand new replacement drive or a refurbished WD HDD? I think with HDD warranty, there is a tendency to get a refurbished drive.

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            @netsurfer: Dunno, don't care as long as it works and doesn't fail… 2yrs now and its still going, so I'll take that as a win :)

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              @pharkurnell: My replacement had a high pitch noise and it stopped working 2 months after the warranty expires….

      • +3 votes

        We have been running multiple servers with WD reds and none have failed over 10years plus. We have around 40+ WD's. Whereas we have replaced many Seagates in work desktops.

        Each to their own.

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          TBH I believe it's luck of the draw…right now on my desk I have a 4TB Seagate NAS drive that failed 3 years and 3 months after purchase (3 yr warranty) and a 6TB WD RED that has a manufacture date of July 2017. Both were in the same system (my home NAS)…

          I would echo the WD warranty sentiment, I have replaced 2 drives through that process (didn't pay shipping either - used the website to lodge the RMA, then call them to arrange pickup) and a few weeks later a replacement drive arrived.

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        I've had a 6TB red pro fail a month outside its warranty period, but that's all.

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      WD quieter. Seagate ~faster. Overall, similar

    • +4 votes

      none - get the cheapest one.

      Given enough time all disk will fail.
      Most people have small samples ( less than 300 disks ) and they draw a conclusion that WD/Seagate sucks.

      • -2 votes

        Given enough time all disk will fail.

        Unless they're Hitachi GST, then never.

    • +1 vote

      Seen some people recommend intentionally mixing brands so that if there's a systemic flaw in one it won't wipe them all out.

  • +1 vote

    Futu jacked the WD Red 10tb to $626! It is in the 400's on other sites

  • +2 votes

    Thank you! Used "PAPPSS2" for $20 discount on 2 x 4tb WD HDDs.

  • +1 vote

    With the Synology DS920+ & 2WD100EDAZ ($23/TB Elements deal), I'm stuck to 10TB only.
    Waiting for 139/4
    10~$347 for 10TB NAS drive

  • +5 votes

    FYI for anyone, WD Red Plus and the Seagate Ironwolfs should be CMR. The WD Red ones are SMR and should be avoided.

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    Thanks OP. Just in time to replace my two WD Gold 6TB (one is failing) which've been running 7x24 for over 5 years.

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    I can't get the WD Red code to work. Anyone else?

    • +1 vote

      The code is PPSS100

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    Would this be suitable for a plex server on a nvidia shield?

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      Used in a NAS that's operating as a plex server or attached to the shield which is operating as a plex server? If the former than yes. If the latter then it would depend on what you are using to connect to the shield usb. I'm told shield can be finicky about external drives although I've had no problems to date using WD my passport and WD elements.

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        Thanks for the reply. I'd be looking at using it through an external dock connected to the shield. Might do a bit more research.

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    No idea which to choose - I just had a 4tb shucked Seagate crash after only 1.5 years so I'm a bit grumpy with them at the moment (this comes after having about 1 seagate a year crash for the last 5+ years). I don't have any of my original seagate drives left from 6 years ago now. The Ironwolf looks like a better drive than the WD Red Plus though (faster).

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    Waiting until the Seagate iron wolf comes down to what I've seen it for before at around $132 for the 4tb. that was also a ebay plus deal with computer alliances price. The jump between the 4 and 6tbs is crazyness 4tb is def the sweet spot atm. These drives have not gone down for 1-2 yrs now so it wont be to much longer for atleast they or the 6tbs drop…

  • +1 vote

    Can anyone recommend a 8TB CMR 5400rpm NAS HD?

    Seems majority are 7200 RPM now, or falsely labelled 5400 RPM drives that are actually 7200 RPM (thanks for misleading customers yet again WD…). I'm concerned of the higher noise levels with 7200 PRM drives for my NAS in the living room.

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    Which one is better between the two? Wd red plus or ironwolf for a nas (used for backing up my hard drive and ocassionaly streaming movies to my tv)