Gainward GeForce RTX 3080 Phantom 10GB (Non LHR) $1788 + Delivery @ TechFast » All Comments

  • +3

    Beat me by literally 6 seconds

    The phantom seems to be a very quality 3080 card compared to other AIB partners (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_VC_00wcMU)

    • +1

      S tier

    • -1

      Guys be careful buying graphics cards from Techfast. They shipped me an RTX2060 mini when I paid for an RTX2060. Only found out when contacting Nvidia.

      • -1

        Is this a joke? An rtx 2060 mini is a 2060 its just a smaller form factor usually to fit in smaller cases.

        • +1

          The mini has 80mm fans compared to a full size 2060 with 90mm fans not to mention more surface area and fits in my supplied case. It also effects my resale value and it's not what I paid for. I even put it in the order notes! I would have waited or upgraded rather then being short changed.

          • -2

            @[Deactivated]: Did they advertise which 2060 model you were getting? Also why do you think a mini will have worse resale value? Many smaller cards are the ones people seek after for specific builds making them worth more.

            • @XiTaU: Yes, they advertised the RTX2060, not a mini version with small fans. It's why I bought from them. I've never known anyone to want a smaller card that can't dissipate as much heat.

  • +51

    HOLD!

    (But if you really need it this is not a bad deal)

    • +4

      Prices may drop further?

      • +11

        Unlikely for non LHR model as stock is depleted

        • +3

          1) Stock will recover. The writing is on the wall there.
          2) For gamers (as opposed to miners) it's far better to get an LHR model for cheaper.

        • Already dropped

      • +3

        Kidding? I have $1500aud allocated for my 3080ti

      • +9

        Prices are deff going lower. HODL!

        • +1

          NO, You should Sell now and buy it back at lower price later.

      • +9

        it will drop and you will get a better card then this, one more month

      • +16

        Yes. Crypto mining got banned in China and Ethereum is going to switch to "proof of stake" in H2/2021. Unless some other crypto currency promises similar profits, a lot of mining farms will sell out their GPUs to minimise losses.

        Not to mention that ~A$1800 is still ridiculously expensive for a GPU that was introduced almost a year ago.

        • +5

          might be able to get a second hand Chinese mining 3080 gpu for a bargain in a few months.

        • +1

          is proof of stake going to make mining harder therefore not worth using GPUs to mine?

          • +3

            @lycheetea: From what I understand proof of stake will remove the competitive aspect from mining and turn it into a lotto, with the odds of winning that lotto based on your total ownership of ETH. So it'll still use GPUs but the incentive changes from owning and running as many GPUs as you can afford to owning and "staking" as much ETH as you can afford.

            • +1

              @TheJerry: This is not entirely correct.

              Proof of Stake allocates transaction fees based on the size of the stake. The blockchain security is essentially then based on proof of the amount that the stakers have to lose, rather than proof of the amount of computational power that has been used.

              Once Proof of Stake is complete, there will be no need at all for GPU mining on the Ethereum blockchain. However, for Ethereum, it will looks like it will be rolled out in stages, and there is probably going to be a hybrid system in effect for a while.

    • +21

      Apes,Strong,Togetherrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    • +29

      Not a bad deal!? this is an insane price for a GPU. I can't believe people are paying this /end_old_man_rant

      • +5

        Some gamers have a lot of money to (literally) play with. But yes, it's insanely expensive. Not to mention that there are hardly any games that need this horsepower. PC games are optimised to run well on GTX 1060, which is still the most popular gaming GPU out there.

        • +2

          AMD FSR might also make that 1060 last a few more years.

          I'm still holding onto a 1070 laptop as my main gaming rig. It recently got me through RDR2 at 1440p, which could only be done with freesync at ~50fps, and did very well for Days Gone (high settings 60-75fps 1440p) so I haven't actually run into a game I want to play that I need better than a 1070 for. AMD FSR may make the 1070 last me a few years longer.

          • @studentl0an: 1070 for laptop was powerful they didn’t limit it like 2060. If you don’t see any artefacts then there is no need for upgrade. What 1440p laptop is yours?

            • @Wrongguy: Yeah, it's actually one of if not the only laptop GPUs which are faster than the desktop one as it has more CUDA cores and I've got an Afterburner custom frequency curve hitting 1850mhz at 110w. It runs faster than a lot of 2060 laptops that are capped at 80w or less (which is a lot of them).

              The laptop is an Asus GL702VS. It's not 1440p but I have it hooked up to a 1440p monitor. I do not recommend the GL702. I need to run it with the bottom cover removed and ontop a laptop cooler otherwise it will throttle because it has tiny vents on the bottom case. Repasting with cryonaught and changing the thermal pads for K5-Pro thermal grease did nothing, not a degree cooler.

              I'm going to holesaw cut out the bottom of the case where the fans are and put some speaker grill mesh over it as that seems to be the only way to fix the throttling issues without removing the bottom cover (there's a 100+ page thread on the Asus forums about the GL502/702 overheating, well before the TUF A15/A17 debacle). Asus have no idea how to put vents on their laptops unlike MSI.

          • -2

            @studentl0an: No offence to you but I have a 3070 with a 144hz 1440p monitor and it’s not enough to cap that 144hz close to ultra in almost any game…

            Whatever else you said is complete bullshit and I like my games like butter not 50fps 1440p.

        • +5

          "hardly any games that need this horsepower".

          Maybe if you exclusively play indies. Literally any AAA game this year and from the last couple of years you want to run decently at 4K or high refresh 1440p "needs this horsepower." Not everyone is satisfied with 1080p (and for good reason IMO).

          • +1

            @jaejae69: VR most of all needs it, DLSS is helping but it wont be implemented into all games. I'm waiting just a month or two more then I'll have to buy in eventually.

            • @Malemanjam: I just went from a 3070 to a 3080 as MSFS 2020 for VR was a stuttery mess on the 3070.

              I now get no stutters with the 3080 but that's most settings on medium. Sure the 3070 is fine for pancake gaming but with VR you want as much horsepower as possible!

        • +3

          Completely false? Every big budget game from the past couple of years would use up every ounce of power from a 3080 if you want to play at 4k or even 1440p on ultra settings at high refresh rates. So plenty of games need it. There is no amount of GPU power that can't be used up right now and likely will be the case forever. As soon as hardware producers eek out more power, game Devs use it up and more.

          • +1

            @Xastros: The fact that these games use it doesn't mean that they need it. You can always add some expensive effects that nobody even notices.

            It would be an insane commercial strategy to create PC games that rely on the horsepower of an RTX 3080. I mean, how many gamers can spend A$1800 on the GPU alone, if they can even get one? GPUs have been a scarce commodity for many years now. If you're game developer and want to sell into a large market, you damn better make sure that your title runs well enough on a GTX 1060. And then maybe add some effects to give owners of an RTX 3080 the warm and fuzzy feeling that those A$1800 weren't a complete waste of money.

      • +5

        this is an insane price for a GPU. I can't believe people are paying this

        It's a unique combination of being extremely profitable + incredible gaming performance. You can mine ethereum on them when you're not playing games.

        I paid around $1150 for my 3080 and it paid itself off after 4-5 months.

      • +4

        Wait until you see people spending $2500 on a phone.

        • Hahahaha yes so true.

    • Must have been my imagination.

  • +5

    Hi Luke (if you're here) - any news on upcoming 6800 / 6800xt updates re stock & pricing? Thanks for your help

    • +4

      No word on either still sorry!

      • +1

        How many of this 3080 are in stock?

    • +18

      Wow you summon Luke, you get Luke. That's impressive! Wasn't even his post.

      • Luke is omniscient my friend

      • +4

        Reminds me of Supernatural when Dean prays to Castiel :D

      • +1

        I bought a PC from Techfast a couple of years ago that had a GPU issue. Still blown away by how the dude bent over backwards to help me. Great customer service.

    • +9

      If you say "Techfast" 3 times while standing in front of your bathroom mirror and flick the lights off and on he will appear

      • +7

        🍬👨‍💻

  • they are a subsidiary of Palit

    Lol that explains why the fan shroud reminds me of the Palit Gaming Pro.

  • +3

    What's LHR? can someone TL;dr me?

    edit: LHR = LiteHashRate, (i couldnt find it by googling LHR, had to google "GPU LHR")

    • +6

      Lite Hash Rate, they basically cut ETH mining speed by 50% on LHR cards

    • Lite hash rate (50% less)

      E.g. non LHR 3080: 100Mh, LHR 3080: 50Mh

    • LHR means its probably cheaper to buy, cant easily mine on it and the resale value will suck a bit.

      • IDK if the resale value is really going to suffer on much PC hardware atm, there's still real supply problems and its unlikely there'll be a glut anytime soon.

    • Low Hash Rate

  • +16

    To people wanting a new high end GFX card, but want to know some high level differences between Radeon and Geforce, here you go.

    3080/3090, More mature RT so you take less of a hit to your FPS to enable RT, relative to the FPS you had before. DLSS support (helps even more with RT titles). Stronger at 4k resolution. 'CUDA' support, which takes many forms but if you can/do leverage that, it's a massive tick for the 3080. NVENC encoder for streaming (I stream from my 3080 equipped PC to a Shield Pro in the lounge, this feature is awesome).

    6800XT/6900XT, beasts at rasterization and can dabble in RT if it interests you, but takes a bigger relative hit to FPS to turn it on. 16gb VRAM over 10gb (on the 3080 but not 3090), so if that VRAM is useful to you now, or you plan to keep and use the card for quite a few years. A bit stronger at 1440p and even more so at 1080p. Radeons perform better if you're CPU limited, like smashing 80-90%+ of your CPU usage in games, as GPU scheduling is done by hardware, where Nvidia cards need some CPU resources for scheduling.

    • +12

      DLSS and ai applications will stop me from buying any amd card right now

      • +2

        Yep, this is similar if you work with cuda acceleration application.

        • What applications use CUDA that can't use OpenCL?

          • +9

            @studentl0an: Many, as an AMD user for years its amazing how often you hit the walled off CUDA garden. Sometimes there is workarounds that are OK… but most of the time it just wasn't worth it.

            Things like tuflow (floodwater modelling) many of the photogrammetry packages, machine learning etc.

            You will find a lot of research projects based around the Cuda SDK as well simply because its easy to implement and rather powerful. Even things like accelerated raytracing inside blender use to suck on AMD cards.

            Now I have 3090, I can do all the flood modelling I want. It takes about a 10th of the time (sure the card cost 10x as much as my old one) and can mine on it when not needed for work to keep the room warm and offset its cost.

            Sure I get this isn't what everyone uses their cards for, but CUDA is the only reason I picked up a 3090 over AMDs offering.

            • +2

              @Witchdoctr: Thanks for the explanation. While it's quite niche, you spelled out why the need is there for CUDA.

              • +1

                @studentl0an: Deep learning is essentially all CUDA (AMD ports of PyTorch/TensorFlow are not really usable).

              • +1

                @studentl0an: No Problem. You are right calling it niche. Though you will be suppressed at how many applications that can benefit from GPU acceleration will support CUDA because of how easy it is to implement using nvidias development tools.

                It is why the 3090 is actually a good deal for those of us who use CUDA. The other option is often Quadro cards and they are crazy expensive. (Even if they have their own use cases). Engineering software can suck

    • +6

      AMD are also absolutely useless if you want OpenGL (a lot of modern console emulators).
      I made this mistake a few years ago.

      • +3

        This is why I'm staying green. Shame that.

      • +6

        The Emulators should update to Vulkan already OpenGL is the past.

        • +2

          Some of them have now, or are in the process of it.

          But even then, many of them have AMD specific Vulkan bugs, softlocks, etc.
          Most of the emulator devs seem to develop on emulator hardware, and AMD aren't interested in fixing driver bugs affecting emulators (often of their customer's platforms).

          • @idonotknowwhy: Yeah that's true. But I think it's different philosophy, Nvidia are very good at bug fixes and work arounds in their drivers regarding bugs in our peoples software.
            Because Nvidia know people will just blame the card than poorly or out of spec coded software or OS.

            A clear case of this is AMD cards get blamed for poor performance in some DX11 games, where it's clearly a Microsoft coded scheduler issues in DX11 that where problem, but they are now they are fixed in DX12 so AMD cards get a bad rap.

    • may be worth noting AMD has launched their own equivalent to DLSS, however game support right now is pretty limited

      • +1

        I've purposely left it out as it will be implemented on a per-game basis and will work on either Radeon or Geforce, essentially making it a moot point when it comes to choosing between the two, especially since FSR appears to carry essentially the same performance uplift and IQ tradeoff no matter the brand of GPU. The other side of the coin being Geforce owners will get both DLSS and FSR in their respective titles, but Radeon users will not get DLSS.

      • +5

        No, AMDs Fidelity FX SuperResolution (FSR) is no DLSS equivalent. It doesn't even come close. Worse, FSR is no better than established temporal upscaling techniques.

        If you want AMD, buy yourself a PS5 or Xbox Series X consoles, if you can get one.

        • +2

          I'm running FSR now and at the quality setting it looks great and doesn't give me the ghosting that DLSS really shits me with.

        • +1

          Definitely not an equivalent. One is AI driven and can achieve image quality BETTER than that of native resolution. The other is not.

    • +5

      As much as I want to see AMD at the top again, the simple reality is that Nvidia has absolutely taken the right bet with their AI focused tensor cores on RTX cards.

      With RT and DLSS helping to push forward the state of the art in graphics quality… it'll be sure to be more and more relevant in the coming years.

      And if you're talking about games in the past and present, their performance is already more than satisfactory on anything but the biggest and most demanding monitors (4k 120Hz, or Odyssey G9).

      • +3

        A mate of mine has an LG CX OLED (4k120 + VRR) that I've had the privilege of plugging my rig into with a 3080, and honestly, 4k is right in it's wheelhouse already, especially with the VRR tech doing a good amount of the 'heavy lifting' to make the experience buttery smooth even if you can't hit that 120fps mark all the time.

      • +3

        i don't agree, i think amd has done a great job with 6800 xt, its faster then 3080 at 1440 p, for a lot of ppl that game 240hz and non rt its an absolute winner and the card is 9% faster now then when released a year ago through driver optimization, you can bet they will improve on that already, at 4k, its only 3% slower then 3080

        • +6

          I remember reading about that 9% and I believe it's quite misleading, the test was not apples to apples by way of including a different set of games than what was originally tested. Hardware unboxed chimed in to say they have found the margin now is ~the same as at launch between the two. Not to take away from the 6800XT being a great choice for a lot of people, but it hasn't 'finewined' itself to be 9% faster than it was at launch.

            • +2

              @botchie: https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/14089757675354603…

              For a constant set of 18 games, HU found the June data to be the same as December. No change in the margin.

              • @Noodles93: You haven't even read what I posted
                If you have Sam there's a big improvement
                Hu uses different measuring tool

                • +1

                  @botchie:

                  You haven't even read what I posted

                  I've read the actual 3d center analysis which your article is basically quoting. I'm familiar with it.

                  Hu uses different measuring tool

                  What do you mean by this? Using the same set of 18 games is the most apples to apples method of comparing a performance uplift of which HU found 0%.

                  • @Noodles93: They are not using Sam enabled computer

                    • +3

                      @botchie: HU have tested SAM previously and found a 3% increase on average across 1080p/1440p in 36 games. https://www.techspot.com/article/2178-amd-smart-access-memor…

                      The 9% uplift you're referring to is most likely a comparison including different games from December to June as @foxpants has explained to you above.

                      If you can share a reputable hardware source (e.g. digital foundry, gamers nexus, computerbase, anandtech) that can demonstrate a 9% performance increase for the 6800xt through driver optimisation i'd love to see it. Hardware Unboxed/Techspot are about as reliable as they come and they found a 0% gain.

                      • @Noodles93: just compare recent benchmarks

                        at launch
                        https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt/9.h…

                        vs here recently
                        https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070…

                        I cant find anything better
                        not sure if they used different comp set up but i dont think anything came out between that time to push gaming performance - I could be wrong but doubt it

                        • +1

                          @botchie: In those 2 links you included:
                          - the 6800xt went up from 186.9 to 199.3 (up 6.6%) in 1440p
                          - the 3080 went up from 166.2 to 176.7 (up 6.3%) in 1440p

                          Both cards went up the same amount so it doesn't prove anything…

                          Go look at the game selection in both reviews. It's completely different (e.g. Anno 1800/Project Cards 3 removed, Odyssey swapped for Valhalla, Watch Dog Legions added)

                          I cant find anything better

                          Because it doesn't exist. The 6800xt hasn't magically improved 9% from launch mate. It would be mainstream tech news if it actually happened.

                          • -1

                            @Noodles93: its actually mainstream news that AMD cards improve over time from driver updates
                            no one said that 3080 didn't improve as well so not sure what your on about there

                            • +1

                              @botchie: Finewine is more a fan driven term than anything, but AMD would be foolish not to adopt it, letting fans do some of that heavy lifting for them. 9% in less than a year is fairly ridiculous though, it would mean they were very unoptimized at launch. 4-7% over 3-5 years seems more in line with what Radeons have gained in the past.

                            • +1

                              @botchie:

                              its actually mainstream news that AMD cards improve over time from driver updates

                              Sure, i'm not saying it isn't and it might be true for older cards. But there's no specific evidence for the 6800 XT.

      • My experience with DLSS is blurry motion and artefacts, it's just a crutch for weak hardware that isn't able to run RT fast enough, something that will be rectified in the next generation of cards. I don't see much use outside of upscaling for the tensor cores in gaming, which begs the question. It might have been more beneficial to use that silicon space for more cuda cores, FSR has shown there is more ways to skin a cat when it comes to upscaling.

        But you can count the games with RT on one hand, so people are fussing over cards with no real next gen content to push them. I don't see that really changing much year end either. Speaking as someone who uses a 2080Ti and 6900xt, I have all this expensive hardware but no games to really push em.

        Unless you really need a GPU, I'd wait for the 4000/7800 series of cards which should see chiplets and a big jump in RT performance.

        • Given you could use FSR with a Geforce in any game that supports it, DLSS is just a value add/feature that Radeon doesn't get right now, and you could use or not use it as you see fit. I personally have 0 issues using it, in fact I've found more often that it gives cleaner fine detail vs native, but ymmv.

          • +1

            @foxpants: DLSS is proprietary and because of that support for it might get dropped as developers look to use the easier and more inclusive FSR, especially since console versions are still a big focus for many AAA games. I don't see it being a selling point for long. AMD did incredible work with FSR.

            • @neomoz: Yeah maybe, some features have gone and some have stayed over the years but that's crystal ball type stuff. If you wanted say a 6800XT or RTX3080 today, DLSS is a feature that is on the table for some current/recent games, and some upcoming ones to the 3080's favour, as well as being in a much more 'ready-to-go' state for UE4+5, Unity and other engines. If it is going to disappear, imo we haven't even seen it peak yet.

        • +1

          You can always sell your GPUs. The cost of upgrade is significantly less as a result. And if you time things right, the upgrades can be free!

          Also, your experience with DLSS runs contrary to my own.

          Better image quality on average (it removes thin line and texture aliasing if still an issue - at the cost of some sharpness) than native res rendering, and better framer rates. A true win win… for me at least.

          • @Zaptruder: I am very much agreed there, much better FPS (up to 75% better on Quality mode alone is what I've seen with my own eyes) and much sharper fine detail along with less shimmering on straight edges. A win win for my tastes in image quality with a massive FPS boost, and most users that have it available to enable absolutely would, it's what you'd call a 'no-brainer'. having said that now that FSR is out, it seems the minimal drawbacks of DLSS are unpalatable to some, where FSR has no such weaknesses, go figure.

        • Digital Foundry goes into a lot of detail about DLSS 2.2, which gets rid of a lot of blurry motion and artefacting that you have experienced.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtbqJXb1UDw

          Hopefully that might resolve your issue.

    • -1

      Radeons perform better if you're CPU limited, like smashing 80-90%+ of your CPU usage in games, as GPU scheduling is done by hardware, where Nvidia cards need some CPU resources for scheduling.

      Wait….really?! Would that mean microstuttering is eliminated if I were to crossfire as to sli or when cpu is not strong enough to render some scenes and drops the frames down intermittently but so much that it feels like stuttering?

      I watched some reviews and most say the 6900XT barely beats the 3090 even with its mad tune mode or whatever it's called I forgot the term they have for it, the 3090 will also be a few frames or at least a couple of frames higher in most games?

      ALso what about gameworks and physx? You can do any of that with an amd card….but then again, you can't do any of the amd stuff with an nvidia card….

      • ALso what about gameworks and physx? You can do any of that with an amd card….but then again, you can't do any of the amd stuff with an nvidia card….

        What AMD stuff can't I do on an Nvidia card? seems like at the moment It's the Nvidia cards that can do more unique things. (CUDA/NVENC/DLSS)

        • What AMD stuff can't I do on an Nvidia card?

          I remember there being AMD only graphics options that would be greyed out if you didnt have an AMD card.

  • This is too tempting… Does it have good memory temps with mining?

    • +6

      Nevermind… Noisy fans no thanks.

      • -2

        100mh at 160w at 42 degrees c in open air rig

        • +2

          I find that hard to believe

          • +2

            @dsiritz: It's actually 240W, multiply whatever it says by 1.5, the reading is wrong.

            • +1

              @comeMidnight: You are absolutely correct. I just did a wall reading and it is indeed drawing 240w. I only just got these and HiveOS shows 160w. Welp, i did get excited until the bubble popped lol.

        • Core temps mean basically nothing considering it's the memory you're overclocking. Memory temps will be closer to 90+C to get 100MH on a 3080 without replacing thermal pads or water cooling.

          • @LilyRose2798: I got two cards, both are doing 101 MHS, but one is at 87C next to other cards and the other is hitting 104/6C in a pc with good airflow.

  • What's the warranty on the cards?
    How noisy are these cards?

    • +2

      Warranty on my gainward was only 2 years. Noise on the other model they have is pretty loud, but performance is great. I paid $1300 AUD right in the middle of the gpu price hike… At this price ($1800) id still wait until prices come down. If its needed for work, I dont know pay w.e and claim it on tax lol

  • +1

    Are these in stock / shipping now, or is it a pre-order?

    • +1

      It's both. Good numbers in stock now, but also more coming which will ship later this month. The listing will go dark when it sells through. We aren't taking unlimited preorders.

      • +2

        Hi Luke, I selected bank deposit - is stock allocated for the people choosing bank deposit? I also just sent an email with payment receipt. TF4655602631

        • Same here, TF4655782631

        • +1

          Allocated, yes. Held indefinitely, no. Strong advice is to transfer and send proof via email as soon as possible.

  • any 3070ti deals at $1100-200 upcoming ?

    • Do you mean card only?

      • -5

        yep or evga models ple has evga model at $1379 but can only currently spend less then $1200 unfortunately im waiting patiently for the rumoured august price drops.

        • +4

          bruh

        • I saw many brands of 3070ti selling from $1100 in China, you wont be waiting too long here.

          • @couger: Yeh i heard from US suppliers apparently really good price drops after Fall which is after August in the US he also noted back end of july might be slow though

  • Credit card surcharge

  • @luketechfast Is there an option for pickup instead of delivery since I'm also in SA?

    • +2

      No sorry, we have removed that option for a couple of reasons.

      • +2

        Thanks for replying, no worries.. understandable.

  • Hi @luketechfast,

    Any updates for this deal https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/633532, will it be shipped out this week?

    • +1

      3080s from all deals I've posted are in build now. We're working through them in date order but as they overlapped, all I can really say is that we're on track for July shipping for all of them, which was in the deal titles 👍

  • Anyone know what Gainward warranty is like? From a quick search I've only found experiences from 10 years ago.

    Their website says the warranty needs to go via the local distributor: https://www.gainward.com/main/support.php?lang=en

    But there seems to be no local distributors in Australia? https://www.gainward.com/main/wtb.php?lang=en

    • +6

      Warranty is 3 years, through us as the place of purchase.

  • Damn, paid for the GPU for 1.9k on another store's eBay and still waiting for shipping.

    • So this is a good deal

      • I cancelled it and still waiting 😂

  • +24

    I use GPU for heating only

  • +1

    @luketechfast

    I was wondering if you could check out my email regarding order TF4647682631. I would like to change it to order TF4656202631 and if possible you could refund the difference. I need the video card to finish off my computer urgently so I can work from home (kept home from covid). I dont actually need the other parts of the system and I understand it is slowing down. Thanks so much Luke!!. Please PM me if there is anything else you needed me to clarify

    • Did you buy a 3080 Build?

      Im tossing up that option too.

  • Does the name Gainward mean anything? I like the name evga but if Gainward cheaper and same quality can somewhere clarify if the evga 3080 is on same level as this?

    • +1

      I think I had a Gainward GPU in the early 2000's, which is still in use at a relative's house today…

    • +1

      I had a few Gainward cards back when they had a strong local presence in the mid 2000’s. I don’t know think EVGA even existed then. They were a great card. I remember getting some nice overclocks.

    • It's "cheaper" in the sense that people consider it a lesser brand. But going off the actual results from mining off these cards, the PCB setup seems to be top notch (even better than EVGA).

  • +8

    HOLDOOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • +4

    Can I change my build to just this card?

    • +2

      I want to do this as well

      • Me 3!!

        Would be great to get a response on this. Placed an order for 2 of the card alone but don't want to pay it before getting a response if we can transfer our system builds into credit towards just the cards.

        Would prefer to custom build using other parts I have around at home instead.

        • Me 4 !!!!

          Would be great to get a response on this. Placed an order for 1 of the card alone.
          but I am considering another card if could get previous pc build order transferred to this second card!!

          • @xerocopy: I guess also, the build price for the 3080 is really not so great if these are the cards that will be used, plus they've also had our money for a month.

            • @houmousy: Hi houmousy and bros who are in the same situation:
              I got TechFast email response saying that almost sure these are the cards been used in the previous pc build. I can transfer the pc build's credit to the card only, however, they will charge $100 for the processing fee as the build is in process. Besides, I will be moved to the end of the queue. in that situation, simple math tells me the previous 3600 cpu build would cost me ~ $700 without the card. Is that worth it?? I am a little hesitated to move to 2 cards. Anybody give me some thoughts?? thanks!!

            • @houmousy: Hi,
              To make things clear. I am paying $ 700 for :

              AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6c/12t processor with stock cooler. 120mm AIO from us or after-market cooler recommended for optimal gaming thermals.
              NO graphic card
              Gigabyte B550M DS3H motherboard (various upgrades available)
              16GB 3200MHz RAM (brand/model may vary)
              480GB SSD (brand/model may vary)
              Gigabyte P750G 750W 80 Plus Gold PSU
              Lance-V RGB ATX Case (New MSI Gungnir 111M(us.msi.com) case upgrade (pictured): $79)

              Worth it or not??

              • @xerocopy: Well seems to me the card on its own would be 1900 in that situation, vs the build was 2600 for me with the delivery and fees, so pretty much works out even. But I was just planning on selling the rest of the PC so saves me the hassle

    • Hm I have emailed them but will charge $100 for a swap. They said they are currently building. If they are not lying, they should be dispatching soon.

  • trying to buy the card but getting transaction declined ?

    Transaction declined: Suspected risk

    • +1

      Call your bank to get that sorted. I had the same thing when buying a lenovo laptop a few years ago, they sometimes shit themselves if you suddenly buy an expensive piece of tech.

    • ANZ temporarily blocked the transaction too, need to send some text message and wait a few minutes. No problem with Macquarie

  • +2

    So two things. I’m seeing prices dropping constantly, you’re better off holding.

    Secondly if this is but a blip and prices go up, you’re better off paying the premium for a next gen card in 2022 as this gen has been out for almost a year already.

    • +15

      So basically sit on the same card people have had since before 2020?
      Waiting is an opportunity cost, you're giving up the enjoyment you could have had now + whatever mining gains (circa $250~/month right now).

      I bought my 3080 in Jan for ~1800 but have been gaming and mining on it for 7 months now, if I hadn't and was sitting here reading your advice it would mean sitting on my 980ti for a possible release of a next gen card in Q4 2022, with a very small chance of snagging one.

      • -2

        Bruh it doesn't matter how you try and justify your purchase. You still overpaid.

        • Let's do the math on that one.

          Pay $1,800 in January, already made that money back via mining, has had a 3080 to game on it all year

          Or, pay $1,200 sometime near the end of the year when the price gets close to normal, can't make that back due to LHR cards and Eth2.0/falling crypto prices and keep gaming on a crap GPU.

          It's not overpaying when it's paying market prices, especially when there's a return to be had.

    • you rekon we will be able to get 4000 cards? won't it just be like this gen all over again?

      • By the time 4000 series releases Ethereum 2.0 will have launched which removes GPU mining. If people all flock to Ravencoin or other coin that can still be GPU mined then unless that coin has a 100x value increase then it won't be profitable when so many people mine (increasing miners = decrease in mining payouts).

        There's most likely a hard stop for GPU mining coming up in the next year. It's still profitable for the time being, but the days of making 100% ROI within a few months of buying a new GPU are over.

  • +1

    What a good deal, but hold off guys, prices are dropping and they will continue if we HODL!

    • this guy definitely spends too much time on /wsb lol

      • -1

        I also spend too much time with MILFs, reading Martha Stewart cookbooks, playing shuffle board and in video game arcades. It's a sickness. :(

        • nothing like a good MILF

  • +4

    the Palit GameRock is renowned to sometimes be able to mine Eth at 100Mh+ @ 175W

    100Mh+ @ 175W seems too good to believe. Would love to see their power at the wall.

    My desktop (9900k, 3080) pulls around 330W from the wall and i think it's around 220W for the GPU @ 96-98 MH/s:
    - PL 69%
    - clock 1110 locked @ 0.7v
    - mem clock: +1000 (will go higher when i get around to replacing the backplate thermal pads)

    • +4

      I'm sceptical to myself, I think it's just a sensor misreporting, a normal 3080 uses from 220-240w while mining

      Also you don't need to set PL if you locked the voltage fyi

      • Yeah, most of what i've seen online is close to 220-240W ish with some golden samples closer to 200W.

        And thanks for the tip, didn't know that. Probably will just leave things as is since i only switch my afterburner profile to game.

      • Yeah that sounds pretty normal from what I've seen, 175W sounds too good though

    • I think it is not wise to OC GDDR6X 1000mhz, they are hot, you need to think about the long term

      • +2

        My vram temps are in the low 90s which is probably better than most people mining on their 3080s out of the box at stock mem clocks. I'm fine with that. I repasted the front pads and aimed a case fan at it.

        Have been mining almost 24/7 since mid-October 2020 and no problems yet.

    • +1

      Yeah I doubt that's correct. My 3080 ftw3 does 102mh/s at 200 Watts and I'm pretty sure that's about as good as it gets

      • Very nice. What are your vram temps?

        • +2

          92-96C. I'm running a +1500mhz memory offset, but the card is running in P2 state so it's actually running at 21.5gbps

          It's a very impressive card. No repasting or installing extra thermal pads needed

          • @bumluffa: Amazing, can't say i'm not jealous mate. I had to repaste the front pads to get down to the low 90s with a +1000 memOC

            • @Noodles93: Yeah. Which is why I'm extremely sceptical when certain people say EVGA cards perform poorly. Which card do you have btw?

              • +1

                @bumluffa: Zotac 3080 trinity. Aka one of the worst 3080s but I paid $1139 (so it's well and truly paid for itself and then some), ordered on launch night and received it a month later so no complaints. Figured i'd get it quicker since more people would have wanted EVGAs.

  • @luketechfast

    hey luke i had an order done and I need to get my computer started ASAP due to quarantine in sydney and working from home. I was wondering if you could help me out. I've pmed you my details.

    Many thanks for your help!

    • @ luketechfast

      Can you reply to my email/PMs please before the order gets shipped out. I was advised today that my order wouldnt be available till late july, but then when i requested to switch over to the GPU only, suddenly my order was already packed and ready to ship. I would greatly appreciate if you could modify the package for the GPU only before it is sent out thanks!

      • Techfast are charging $100 fee to swap the PC to an order containing cards only.

  • +2

    Half way there, continuing to HODL $-

  • +1

    Aragorn: "Hold your ground! Hold your ground."

  • +3

    That is one ugly card wow

  • I have plenty of 3080, best is 96MH/s, 230w

    • +1

      getting above 100mh is normal for 3080s, all of mine are, getting 175w, however, that's very intriguing

      • what overclock settings are you using? I can't get over 92Mhs

        • most likely memory temp is too high on your card

  • +4

    Just started to dabble in mining to make some returns while not gaming… This card is showing $6.19 aud a day at 28c kwh.

    That's making $185 a month and possibly more if u have solar.

    At this price it is pretty good if you are not setting up a dedicated mining rig but rather to offset your gaming system cost.

    • 28c/kwh sounds very high. Do you get very cheap daily supply charges to make up for it?

      I'm paying $0.16/kwh in Melbourne with Globird, was previously $0.23 with Tango.

      • +1

        28c/kwh sounds very high.

        They're probably on a solar plan. I'm on Origin Solar Boost and pay 28c/kwh with 17c FIT (I think the default FIT is meant to be lower but I got Origin to match AGL).

      • +1

        I'm just going off from my plan in WA where it's like 28c flat. However I'm getting a powerwall 2 and 6.6kw next month.. So rather than feed back to the govt I will use the excess power to generate some income. Funny enough I've seen some YouTube videos where they use 8 gpus to warm their room during winter lol

        • +2

          With those rates are you on a solar plan feeding back into the grid? I'd think so if you're considering a powerwall. If not I would look into changing providers as 28c seems very high.

          I've had a few GPUs mining and while it hasn't eliminated the need for heating the last few weeks, it's drastically reduced the amount that I use the split system heating over the last few months.

          Split system AC/heat pumps are much more efficient at generating heat though. I think it's quite significant too like 2-300%+. 100w of using an AC compressor to heat a room could potentially only be about 30w of GPU waste heat.

          • +1

            @studentl0an: We only have one provider here in WA so we don't have a choice.

            Solar feed in is 3c so it's not worth exporting at all.

            The economics of powerwall 2 is crap but if I can mine it will claw back some of the cost.

            Yeah that is why mining as a heater makes incredible sense…

            • +5

              @MaxHashrate: 28c/kwh. 3c feed in. Ouch.

              No wonder you're considering a Powerwall. I didn't know Perth was that expensive for electricity.

              • +2

                @studentl0an: yes it is quite high. The good thing is solar is very strong here.

                I just checked again.. its actually 29.2c lol.

                With the battery one can jump onto the smart tarrif where its 15c from 9pm-7am, 29c 7am-3pm, 56c 3pm-9pm. So if you have a battery to cover the peak period then it makes economic sense to mine 24 hours.

  • Thanks OP, bought one.

  • +3

    For people on the fence, you can get this and start mining straight away and pocket around $200 bucks/mth instead of waiting and waiting and waiting…

    I went from a 2070 super to a 3080 last October and the performance uplift in 3440x1440 was incredible.

    • any guide on mining ?

    • Don’t forget the tax though. So $200/month may become $140/month depending on your regular income. Of course you can claim back the cost of the machine. It this would be a moot point if you could already claim it for normal work purpose though.

      If the card value decreases more than $140-$200/month in the next months and go back to RRP towards the end of the year then you may actually end up with a loss, if you plan to use the card just for mining.

      • At what point would tax become applicable to mining profits? Would have thought some might just spend their coins.

        • As soon as you mine anything its taxable.

  • Are the capaciter issue still a thing with these cards? Or have they been resolved now?

    • -1

      (profanity), what's this?

    • +1

      That was shortly after launch and immediately remedied with a driver update. Absolutely of zero concern.

      • good to know

      • Remedied by dropping clock speed tables and adjusting voltage through driver updates (it took multiple to fix it for everyone)

        • I've had my 3080 since launch and that was close to my memory of it. I never had any of the reported issues (Asus TUF 3080), but the drivers dropped clocks by 15mhz at most on any point of the voltage/frequency table iirc, and from first rearing it's head was solved well within one month.

          • @foxpants: Yeah the TUF cards were one of the only ones that didnt need fixing like the others which is why it was selling out before any of the other cards. My 3080 (gainward not the one OP posted) needed 3 driver updates before it stopped doing weird stuff. GN has a video about it from when these cards launched

  • +4

    If you want top notch performance for a little more, the 6900XT for $211 more might be a better buy

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/637472

    • Extra 14GB of vRam too.

      • Nah 6GB, you're thinking of the 3090

        • You are right.

  • +1

    what's the price of 3060Ti will be if i hold? looking to get one , seems prices heavily dropping

  • Why did he “reach out” to you? Why didn’t he post the deal himself?

    • I believe a store rep has a limit of how many deal they can post in a given time

  • +1

    sigh… weak-minded soul here and couldn't hold…bought 1 after waiting for so long without gaming… ;'(

  • +3

    The reviews are not the best. Here is one:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/kiv91m/gainward_pha…

    There are others writing about it being loud.

    • +1

      2-3 Arctic p12 will do wonder

  • +1

    What was the RRP in aus for this card when it was released? 1k?

    • +3

      around 1100

  • +3

    Pass. That logo splatter design across the fans… 🤮

  • +3

    At this rate my 1080ti will be replaced with a 4080ti… if I can get it.

    • +1

      1080Ti with FSR rocks, so may as well wait for the 4 series :)

    • My 980ti still going strong :D

    • My poor 480…

  • How did things change so fast? All the doomsday folks said wait 2 years until prices drop.
    This is amazing!

    • +6

      It's still $700 over RRP.

      • More like $300-400. 3080 was never less than $1100, most of them at launch were between $1250-$1500

        • most of them at launch were between $1250-$1500

          Were those RRP? Or were those prices already jacked?

          FYI, the RRP for Gainward GeForce RTX 3080 Phantom is $729 USD.

          After converting to AUD and adding GST you end up around $1071 so I'll stick to what I said about this still being $700 over RRP.

          • @HomeAlone: Its original release price was around 1100 but it was never sold at that price since the release due to the extremely high demand. The jacked price is totally understandable given the demand is incredible. The GPU is never again only for gaming, but making some profit. Therefore, the GPU price will most likely be dynamic in the foreseeable future. Namely, the price will somehow move with those cryptos.

            Maybe someday the price will go back to normal but that will be at least after the release of 4 series and 4 series rrp will be much higher than 3 series because of the reason I mentioned before unless mining is made unprofitble at all by that time either by crypto price itself or GPU manufacturer.

          • +3

            @HomeAlone: ~$1100 was for the founders edition ~$699USD which never came to Australia. PLE, Centrecom, MSY, etc were all selling cards at $1250-1500 well before the mining boom happened - this aligns with AIB cards being $100-200USD more.

            • @ozb88:

              ~$1100 was for the founders edition ~$699USD which never came to Australia.

              The RRP I mentioned ($729 USD) is specifically for the card in this deal, the Gainward GeForce RTX 3080 Phantom. It's RRP is $30 USD higher than FE.

              Also, we have seen cards near that price point.

              eVGA GeForce RTX3080 XC3 Black 10GB $1139

              https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/566682

      • Yoiu're confusing Nvidia's MSRP for their cards v.s. the price of their partner cards which were are much higher (with the exception of eVGA).

        • +2

          I'm really not.

          The RRP I mentioned ($729 USD) is specifically for the card in this deal, the Gainward GeForce RTX 3080 Phantom. It's RRP is $30 USD higher than FE.

          • -2

            @HomeAlone: Cool well i guess you'll just keep waiting for rrp then.

            Good luck.

  • What's the shipping estimate on these like? i.e. are these currently in stock?

  • +10

    if you have held out since late 2020, no point to buy now - prices will reach close to MSRP.

    or better yet, hold off for next gen.

    would only buy if ur GPU dies or is on its last legs

    • +3

      better yet, hold off for next gen.

      would only buy if ur GPU dies or is on its last legs

      Kinda reminiscent of what people were saying about RTX 2xxx series mid last year…

  • Is instant stock still available?

  • Happy to buy on eBay, Willing to take the risks, as their better than the comments on here.

  • +4

    I usually go back to the EVGA Australia page if I need a reminder as to what ‘decent’ pricing should look like … https://au.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=0&family=…

    • +6

      you say 'decent', i say 'unobtainable'

      • Yeah, same as looking at stale prices on StaticIce for out-of-stock listings - waste of time. Not sure if we're ever going back to pre-COVID pricing for GPUs with crypto here to stay

  • Sounds good considering the previous pricing but $1788 is still a good amount of cash just for a graphics card.

    • +3

      "just a graphics card" - for many particularly when building a gaming PC, the graphics card is the most vital component.

  • +1

    Any good reviews on this card, best I can see it runs noisy and hot, but maybe thats all the 3080s

    • The first comment has a link to a Youtube video. Seems like it's one of the better cards out there.

      • watched that and it seems mainly theoretical, not many actual reviews of the card.

        • It's the same internals as the Palit GameRock which Hardware Unboxed has done a review of - very positive.

          • @ozb88: I think the cooler is slightly different, but it looks like that fin array is flat and you can just take the shroud off and put proper noctua fans on

            • @mainmast: Someone who had one on Reddit didn't think that was possible, wonder if anyone who gets a techfast build shipped will write a review

            • @mainmast: If that was possible I'd definitely buy it and accept the price but the noise doesn't bode well for my airflow case.

  • Any need for memory cooling pads on this card?

  • If we were not in a pandemic with a worldwide shortage of semiconductors, what would a fair price for this be?

    • +2

      AUD 1100 approx

    • +3

      $1200-$1300

    • +1

      If no shortage with pandemic/crypto etc - street price with discounting would be in the $1000 mark by now, may be even dipping to 950 with ebay sales and whatnot

  • -17

    lol imagine paying this much for a unknown shitty brand 3080 and LHR.

  • +2

    Anyone had their order shipped yet ?

    • +2

      Ordered within 30 minutes of deal going live on OzB. Have been advised likely shipping near end of July. 🤷‍♂️😢

      • +1

        I ordered within 5 minutes and then another order 10 minutes later (so within the first 15 minutes).

        Not shipped yet and here is the official response from email:

        "Good Morning Matt.

        Thank you for contacting us. The card are being shipped to date order, and will be shipping after all system have had their cards allocated. As such we will be sticking to the July dispatch as mentioned on our website and on our listing. When your order does indeed ship you'll be notified via email, and also be informed of your orders tracking number, which you can use to track your item all the way to your door.

        Kind Regards,

        Callum
        Sales/Support Agent"

        • Oof, I'm sitting with a faulty GPU and I ordered based on Lukes comment earlier in the thread instead:

          It's both. Good numbers in stock now, but also more coming which will ship later this month. The listing will go dark when it sells through. We aren't taking unlimited preorders.

          • @XSidd: Also ordered based on that comment. Would of been nice to know how much they actually had in stock to ship immediately.

        • +2

          They have been processing my build(with 3080) since Jun, while waiting on that. I am putting more money into their account for another 3080… not sure if this is the right thing to do :-/

    • i'm also still waiting too

    • Only received transaction email so far.

    • Just got the tracking details for my card :)

  • +1

    I picked up a Sapphire 6800xt for $1500 the other day. Good deal or nah?

    • Where?? I've been hunting far and wide for a reasonably priced nitro+ 6800xt.

  • How many are this sold ? Hopefully this are legit with the claim shipping end of July. Just a concern this could turn out a big scam.

  • For people are gamers, this seems to be a very good deal too: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/636472

    AMD Ryzen5 5600X 6 Core/12 threads Processor
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra 10GB Video Card (non-LHR, confirmed in the forum)
    1TB SN550 NVMe SSD
    EVGA 850 GA 850W 80+ Gold Full Modular Power Supply
    Corsair 4000D Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX Case - White

  • Order placed 13th of July and no update so far, still says order processing on the website, contact by no response, and they don't take phone calls, will go through the bank to report scam and claim money back if they don't ship or respond in the next a few days

    • Hi Petite,

      Are you able to send me a PM regarding this with your order number and I can look into this for you, thank you!

      ~ Christian

      • Status of mine is the same, do I need to send a PM too?

        • +1

          Need more clarify why they only respond, when people wants to claim money back !

      • Ordered 13/07/2021 4:34pm, express post, no shipping details yet. Any news on those will start dispatching ? I've noticed several people already got theirs and was hopeful the second batch would also be dispatched tomorrow? I can provide the TF number if required.

        Thanks and appreciated :)

        • +2

          We sent a large batch out earlier this week, small batches throughout this week and the remainder will be sent when the delivery arrives next week. We are operating at sligthly reduced capacity due to COVID lockdown in SA but we're on track for everything to go out in July as stated. Hang in there.

          • @luketechfast: Thank you kindly.

          • @luketechfast: It's annoying these shipping delays weren't made clear on your webpage.

            I paid the CC surcharge and express post thinking it would speed up my order. It's now been over a week and my order is still sitting there 'processing'

    • I emailed asking if the listing on the site still had instant delivery stock available and they sent a really passive response back almost immediately.

      • Would love to know this too. I paid for Express Postage as I was under the impression they had stock ready to go.

        • There was someone who said they ordered within 30 minutes and it won't be delivered until end of July, so something tells me they really only had stock available for the end of July.

          • @Slut: That starts to make sense. They probably has null stock. Just presale way in advance to collect more money for them to preorder even more from the manufacture.
            BTW, my mid Jun build is shipping in next week. I am not sure if anyone here purchased before me got their build already??

          • @Slut: I received the tracking number for my card around an hour ago :)

  • I'm just wondering if anyone has received their card yet? How does it perform? How noisy is it etc.?

  • Hi @luketechfast I've placed an order for 2 on 13th July. Order confirmation received 3:15pm. TF4655752631. Deal was posted 2:44pm.
    Paid for express shipping. Havent received any shipping update.
    Can you please confirm the order status mate?
    Based on the wording I'd assume early orders would have been fulfilled but it doesn't look like it from previous comments.
    Cheers.

    • +1

      Package received:)
      I'll be able to chuck it in my pc tonight. Happy to try answer any questions then

  • I have shipping confirmation - will let everyone know when I receive it. I ordered within the first 30 minutes.

    • I also have shipping confirmation. Ordered 30mins after deal was posted and paid for Express.

      • Also received confirmation around an hour ago

        • Nice , mine order at 515 pm on the 13th and they just email me said aiming to ship by end of July , sigh 😔

          • +1

            @Justintime88: I'm probably in the same boat, got my confirmation email at 5:23pm on the 13th, but no shipping estimate yet.

            I think my 650w PSU will just cut it.

            • @ozb88: I dont know much about pc build and I am going with I7 10700kf with 3080, my friends said 850w as minimum otherwise i am risking kill the card, so just to be safe and I brought 850w sfx gold psu for my itx mini build

              • @ju57in: From the research I've done, the card will use 350-420W (if overclocked), leaving approx 200W for the rest of the system which should be okay seeing as my current setup (i7 8700K + GTX 1080Ti OC) uses about 350-400W whilst gaming.

    • i also got shipping details too

    • I got my order confirmation email at 3:37pm (so within an hour), paid for express shipping (thinking they were in stock), and haven't received any update yet. The window of those getting shipping already must therefore be rather small (somewhere between 30-60 mins after post went live).

      • I got my order confirmation at 15:28 and also paid for express shipping. Also haven’t heard anything yet :-(

  • +1

    Received order confirmation within 1 hour of deal being posted.
    No shipping confirmation yet.
    Borat is sad in pants

  • +1

    Still pending shipment email, ordered 13/7/21 @16:54.

    • same. ordered 13/7/21 ~ 5:20pm

    • I think you will have to wait as there were a lot of orders when the deal was posted, with many buying more than 1 as well

  • +1

    Anyone have their card and want to share info on noise/mining values?

    • Don't have card but yet from info online people have sent it back due to it being very loud. Aside from noise it's apparently a good card

      As a side note does anyone know how hard it would be to change the fans? Would you have to ditch the shroud?

      • Ok that's interesting to know.. I'm also wondering if it's easy to put custom fans on it as well. I'd gladly buy it and just put quiet fans on.

        • +2

          If you want a demo of the noise there's a Spanish review of the phantom ds on yt.. you can search "gainward 3080 um dos" and it's the first result.
          At 10:52 he demonstrates the sound.
          41dbA at max load on a test bench, and there's some annoying humm as well.

          • @Sitri: Can confirm the card is noisy. Annoying coil whine too. For those interested in mining results:
            Core 1050. Had to lower mem to 9600 (+300) to reduce/prevent thermal throttling. Approx 85MH/s @ 142W. VRAM hits 102-104 ish.
            Pushed it higher for short burts and observed it hitting 95MH/s+ but would throttle and reduce.
            This will definitely need replacement thermal pads. Anyone have any recommendations?

            • @Currify: What fan % are you running at? Whats the environment like? (open air frame? Ambient temps?)

              Mine arrive tomorrow so I can comment further then. I saw someone online with 100MH @ ~86C mem w/ 70% fan (without replacing pads).

              Also, did you mean to say 242W instead of 142W?

              • @AaronR: This is running at 95% fan speed. Running in a techfast lance v case with side panel open. Ambient room temp approx 20 degrees C.
                Nicehash reports 142W. There's a comment below that says there's a big difference between actual and reported power.

    • 100.3mh/s stably using HiveOS at 1100 / 2400 / 75% fan speed at "160W". There's something weird about these cards where it registers a much lower power usage aka 160W however i measured this at the wall and it is actually drawing approx 230-240W of power.

      It's noisy with a hum, but i don't hear coil whines or get overheating (i'm in open air frame).

      Hope this helps.

      • Nice that sounds good. I wish they were actually in stock or I'd probably just get one tbh. I'm sick of waiting 🤣

        • I know what you mean… Aren't we all, lol

      • Nice, sounds like it's pretty similar to other 3080s then, my Zotac Trinity is really noisy when the fans crank up, but think you can tune the power/fan ratio for decent ambient noise

      • Hey @howard22 what kind of temps is this running at? I found mine started throttling almost straight away with even low memory overclocks of +600 and above

        • Stable temps between 40-44 degrees C in open air rig.

          I'm not experiencing throttling.

          Perhaps point a fan and blow at it to try cool the shroud?

          • @howard22: Tried this. Added an extra fan on the side of my case too. Keeps VRAM temps to 100-102 ish. This is with reduced memory overclock too. Ah it would appear I have a sus GPU. The one I ordered for my colleague sits around 80-82 degrees at a much higher overclock.
            I've sent an email to Techfast mentioning this. Let's see how they respond :)

            Cheers All.

            • @Currify: Yeah that does seem oddly high given others are getting way lower temps! Can you please keep us updated with how you go with TechFast as there's not much around on how good or bad their support is.

            • @Currify: there isn't much you can do, it's a luck of the draw like silicon lottery, some cards have better QC than others. Your card is still performing within specs

            • @Currify: hey, did you get any response from techfast on this, received mine today and experiencing the same things.

              • @houmousy: Silicon lottery. Not much you can do.

                Not all cards produced the same.

                The silicon lottery usually refers to overclocking limits. A better overclocking GPU is considered "winning the silicon lottery."

                GPU have variances in how they overclock. No two OC the same. Therefore, we coined a term for it.

                • @bbqwer: reconfigured my case for better cooling and its a lot more stable now, does seem very sensitive to heat and will crash quite easily if there's even a tiny bit too much OC

      • +1

        I am seeing the same type of thing - the power is weird but at the wall is more inline with what I would expect (220-240watts per card).

        My rock solid settings are

        Windows: Locked-Core: 1200, Fan:60%, Power-Level: 73%, Memory Clock: 1300

        Linux: Locked-Core: 1200, Fan:60%, Power-Level: 250W, Memory Clock: 2600

        101.5 Mh/s on all cards

        Temp on Windows showing 86c Memory overnight (open case with fan blowing at it), 48c CPU

        • Got mine yesterday and pretty much copied your Windows settings and left it running overnight

          Getting 99.5Mh/s

          GPU temp - 50.2c
          Memory temp - 85.8c

          Opened case, no fan blowing into it.

          And yeh fan is noisy, but not too fussed.

          Games run great too 👍

          • @jonske: How long those 99.5mh can hold ? Try 24 hours and see if it drops ?

            • @bbqwer: How was the 10 day test? Did it stay on at 100~ Mh/s?

    • Alright I've been testing it for a few days and here's what I have setup:

      105-106 mh/s
      Power limit: 53%
      Core clock: +0
      Memory clock: +2000
      CPU Fan Speed: 100%
      Afterburner shows memory 11251 MHz
      GPU-Z shows Memory Clock 1406.5 MHz
      GPU-Z shows GPU clock 1380 MHz
      Memory temperature: 90º
      Nicehash shows usage 178.90 but I measured at the power point and it's around 260W

      I've also tested some other configurations and the lowest power I had was 231W and 99 mh/s

      • That mem clock is really really high.

        Is it actually stable and consistent?

        Also, your afterburner mem clocks dont match up with the +2000 math. Something isn't right here?

        Have you tested using an actual separate miner and not NiceHash? 105-106 is within the realm of possibility… but also quite a high number to sustain over time without issue.

        • Yeah not sure if it's just a visual bug on Afterburner or what, but I've maxed the memory clock (+2000) and it didn't crash and it's been running fairly stable.
          I've been running on quickminer (excavator, 0 fee), but I've just isolated it and changed to nbminer (ethash). I'll leave it running over night and will revert back in the morning with the results.

          Right now, as I've just started, it's running at 107.7M on nbminer, 61 accept, 1 reject, cclk 1305, gmclk 11251.

          I need more time to fine tune it anyway, I still want to slowly drop the memory clock to decrease the amount of rejected shares. Only had it for a few days now. Was excited to get 100, didn't expect to see 105-107.

          • @quake3007: OK update for @AaronR, left it running overnight on NBMiner:

            [08:02:58] INFO - ======================== Summary 2021-08-04 08:02:58 ========================
            [08:02:58] INFO - |ID|Device|Hashrate|Accept|Reject|Inv|Powr|Temp|Fan|CClk|GMClk|MUtl|Eff/Watt|
            [08:02:58] INFO - | 0 | 3080 | 106.6 M| 4876 | 50 | 0 | 186| 40 |100 |1440|11251| 100| 573.1 K|
            [08:02:58] INFO - |—————————+———+———+—-+——+————————————————-|
            [08:02:58] INFO - | Total: 106.6 M | 4876| 50 | 0| 186| Uptime: 0D 13:36:04 CPU: 59% |
            [08:02:58] INFO - =============================================================================

            • @quake3007: You have 50 rejected shares….bit high for only 13 hours which is an indicator that the mem clock is too high.

              • @stealthmatt: I'm only new to mining but I thought anything under 2% is acceptable? Or does that apply for stales only?
                But yeah I can try and bring it down a little and see how it goes.

            • @quake3007: Very interesting. Are you able to share your effective hash rate (from the pool) for a defined period? (If you use Flexpool you can hover the "Average Effective" area on the Stats page of your wallet)

      • What equipment do I need to buy to measure the power?

        • I personally just bought a Kasa KP115 Smart Plug. It does the job.

  • Any ETA on this?

    • +1

      "Marketingluketechfast on 21/07/2021 - 14:38
      +2 votes
      We sent a large batch out earlier this week, small batches throughout this week and the remainder will be sent when the delivery arrives next week. We are operating at sligthly reduced capacity due to COVID lockdown in SA but we're on track for everything to go out in July as stated. Hang in there"

      • I gotta say that's some impressive commitment from them to keep chugging along and getting them shipped out.

      • Thanks for the update, much appreciated. Must have missed this comment

        • I hope that there's enough coming to cover everyone. It looks like only the people who ordered within half an hour currently have an ETA. I can't imagine that's more than 10-20% of the outstanding orders

          • +2

            @Sitri: ordered on 13/7/21 @16:54, asked them for a ETA got this reply as I have not got shipping confirmation yet.

            "Thank you for contacting us. Completely understand the need for an update. In regards of these GPUs we are still sticking to a July dispatch for all these orders, and are chipping away daily on shipping from oldest to newest. I can confirm your order is #40 in queue for a card, and I do believe we should be looking at having it shipped out early next week for you.
            when your order does indeed ship, you will indeed be notified by email, and your order will be updated to fulfilled, This email will also have the tracking number for your system within it, so you can track your order from our warehouse all the way to your door."

            • @beansyum: Thanks for posting this. That's heaps good to see.

              • +1

                @Sitri: Just got my shipping info now. Hopefully arrives tomorrow!

            • @beansyum: Cheers for the update. Much appreciated.

              All the extra lead time has given me a chance to find my other PSU 8-pin power cable haha.

              • @ozb88: Has anyone posted that they have gotten it? Mine is arriving tomorrow.

                • @samkenny: Mine just arrived today, all installed and working well so far. Didn't realise how massive the card is. was a challenge to fit it into the case

                  • +1

                    @ozb88: oooh, nice. I may have the same problem with my nr200p. Itching to install it but I am moving this week…

                    • @samkenny: My NZXT H400i struggled, had to slightly bend some of the metal on the case to get it to fit, but bent it back. Future me's problem when I need to take it out or upgrade 😂

                  • +1

                    @ozb88: Right?! going from 1070 to 3080 this card is almost twice a big… had to dig up another 8 pin PCIE cable as well, didn't realize it took 3 x 8 pins..

                    • @beansyum: Yep me too. Luckily past me was organised and kept all the spare PC parts inside my motherboard box.

                    • @beansyum: Yeh this is one of them big boost OC boys, on paper is should be one of the best 3080's on the market but i havent seen much about the card because they seem rare to be sold out of Asia.

      • I am still waiting for my 'dispatch' email. Haven't received anything yet.

        Anybody in the same boat as me?

        3 more days until end of July.

        • Same here

        • Also in the same boat. I didn’t order until 14/7 at about 17:30 AWST however when I contacted them last week they said it should ship early this week.

          In a positive note, a friend that ordered on 13/7 about 1630 AWST received his shipping confirmation early yesterday morning. Fingers crossed!

          • @Theyellowbatman: In their new deal thread today (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/641015) it mentioned all previous orders will be fulfilled today so hopefully you all have tracking details now.

            • @stinger01: Yeah you're right, i did get the tracking details after my above post.

              Good to see Luke kept his word and makes a good representative for the company! Kudos to him.

  • has anyone that purchased on the 17th July received any confirmation?

  • Could anyone share a screenshot of the original listing? Just want to check warranty duration mentioned in the original listing.

  • If anyone changed their mind and want to sell it, pm me.