Good Guys - A80J “55 OLED ($2795 plus $400 cashback) $2395 plus delivery
**Thanks to Doweyy
***No confirmed VRR on this model yet so I will keep waiting on price drop.
$200 cashback via Good Guys (ends 4th Aug) and $200 cashback via Sony
Thanks mod for updating - should the price in title be $2395 after $400 cashback?
The link provided by TGG website must be outdated. Updated Description and title to $2395 after cashback.
Thanks mod.
Tempting - tossing between this and the LG BX "55
This is better unless you need VRR.
if only I knew about this, much rather this than the c1
If you don't mind me asking . Why?
It's a Sony.
Ok, I have to disagree.
I have a Sony & an LG, both OLED. Picture is similar but the software on the Sony sucks in comparison. The LG is far superior in my opinion.
LG are much better, you get way more features. This TV doesn't even support VRR which makes it a non buy for me.
The A80J is the best OLED TV as long as you don’t need VRR.
The A90J is better.
I'm still perplexed as to why it's considered better. Reviews tilt to c1 as an overall winner. Only time Sony wins is really in peak brightness and audio
And in regards to the a90j it's competitor the G1 are again as close as this set.
There are more ground breaking features with all HDMI ports supporting 2.1 rather than 2 ports and VRR is currently absent on all Sony's.
When Sony update firmware to support VRR it might take over.
All OLED panels are practically as good as each other and you can't tell the difference when the tv is properly calibrated.
Unless I'm missing something I can't think of a reason to spend the extra on a Sony of you can get LG for cheaper with the small perk of VRR and 4 HDMI 2.1 ports
@maverickjohn: 2 HDMI 2.1 poets is sufficient for almost everyone so having 4 on the LG isn’t really a selling point. The Sony has better picture and brightness, the LG has VRR. That’s about it. If you don’t need VRR the Sony’s are better picks.
@brimmy11: Not to mention anyone with a TV this nice compliments it with a comparable quality AV amplifier that supports 2.1 and offers 7*2.1 ports.
@brimmy11: Exactly right, every review out there has the Sony listed as better PQ, and the C1 wins out only in gaming features and price point. LG are very aggressive with their pricing.
Lack of HDMI2.1 ports arguments are negligible as switchers are already on the market which supports the full spec, and more will come:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002560833627.html?spm=a2…
Also as @daitro has mentioned, AVR's have multi hdmi2.1 ports, and Sony's incoming HT-A7000 (x2) & HT-A9 (x1) have hdmi2.1 passthrough as well.
https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/sony-boost-home-cinema-r…
@maverickjohn: The Sony CR processor is far superior than the LG’s as well as giving much better out of the box colour accuracy not to mention it had full DTS support where the LG lacks.
What is VRR
@neonlight: Nope only useful for PS5/Xbox Series X or if you plan on plugging a gaming PC in to the TV.
The Sony OLEDs tend to be brighter than the LG. If your room has a lot of light and bright walls and if you don't need VRR, go for the Sony. Otherwise, C1 is perfect.
Is that because they put heatsinks on their models so they can drive the panels harder? Otherwise they're the "same" panels aren't they?
@Alzori: Correct, better cooled panel allows them to push it harder. The A90J and G1 both have the new evo panel.
What is the use case for VRR? Sounds like something for new gen consoles. But I wouldn't expect most TV's to have it - so how do consoles deal with that?
@gakko: It’s for the new generation consoles and computers. If your TV doesn’t support it they just drop back to a static refresh rate.
@gakko: It's a must for any console/pc gaming with unlocked framerates, it gets rid of completely the stuttering and screen tears of variable frame rates.
@gakko: I have it on my monitor, great for gaming where your PC can't quite max out the monitor refresh rate all the time.
but u cant get C1 for 2195 anymore I think….
My other tv is a Sony, the navigation of the inbuilt Google OS is heaps faster. Motion handling is good out of box with Sony. I spent alot of time playing around on the motion settings of LG and it wasn't close. You see ghosting, especially pronounced in sports like badminton and table tennis in Olympics. Sound is also good with Sony as you can use it as a center channel. The C1 natively doesn't do Dolby Vision in Netflix…
I trust Sony will implement VRR later and I have a PS5 to do 4k 120Hz.
I got my C1 from the recent 15% off sale so price is very similar to the Sony now, I have played with the C1 for over 50hrs through different settings. Didn't consider Sony due to the massive price gap back when I bought mine, hope it helps some of you
Dolby vision works in Netflix app on C1 for me
@piston3461: I'm only having success with my Nvidia Shield, thanks for the heads up. Any particular setting?
@evilbamboo: These Might seem a bit obvious but make sure the show you’re trying to play in the LG Netflix app actually supports DV, it’ll say it in the description of the show or movie under the title.
If you’re sure of this already , Does the Dolby vision logo pop up on the top right of the screen when you start the show? .
Also that the Netflix plan that’s signed into the LG is the Ultra HD plan and not anything below that
If you bring up the picture quality settings during the show the preset should say Dolby Vision ‘Cinema’ etc or whatever you’ve chosen.
The only other thing I can think of
Is that the internet connection going to the tv may not be fast enough for it to load DV. You can go to fast.com through the web browser and do a speed test, you need about 25-30mbps. But if it’s working on the same internet going to the Shield I doubt it’s that
The only advantage i see having a Sony is that it uses Google TV. I dont like WebOS at all. It doenst have apps like VPN apps to enable US Netflix etc. Would rather free up a HDMI port than use another android steaming device.
You can use Google tv with Chromecast on LG tv and have everything what sony tv has. All the vpn apps and android tv experience.
Google TV with Chromecast will struggle playing X265 4K content (basically unwatchable… very laggy). The processor in the Sony TV is far superior to the Google TV with Chromecast.
Source: Had a Google TV with Chromecast and just upgraded to a Sony X95 TV.
If you check their post you will see that they don't want to use another streaming device
The Oz bots see anything OLED and upvote like crazy even if it's a terrible price or not a decent model mind boggling
stupid question, anyone using C1 or this as PC monitor? not for gaming just working and sometimes watching some movies?
I am concerned if sit as close as you using normal PC monitor, you can actually see the single pixel.
I would be more worried about burn in from your desktop background rather than being able to see the pixels.
Did not even think about that earlier….
Thanks heaps…
As I just ordered alienware 55 oled… so same theory will be applied? even they marked as Monitor not TV?
4k density should be fine for viewing but as said the burn in would be more worrying
So oled screen should not be PC monitor then???
55inch PC MONITOR???
All OLED will have risk of burn in. I would think the windows task bar would be a high risk area for burn in. I wonder how Alienware mitigate this risk. LG C1 would occassionally go into screen saver mode if it detects static images on screen. It is a little annoying to be honest.
@KaTst3R: They did not tune the the brightness very aggressively for a monitor but still on a higher side, but very low for OLED.
https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000177706/preventin…
apparently they also have 3 yr replacement warranty for a single dead pixel. so I guess I will try alienware to be start with.
@nng526: Yea that look like standard OLED maintenance procedure which is also the same for C1.
At that price point you would expect top notch QA and service. It is a very nice looking monitor.
@KaTst3R: Oh, did not know that again.
well unfortunately, I can not see a real thing from dell, so I have to take a plunge even it is 3yo tech spec.
The bottom line is, I dont play games, may be moves at times, and hopefully superb QA as they promised.
If dell can not do what they claimed, I will see C1 or sony, apparently I missed C1 deal and sony is brighter according to someone, personally I did not really notice much difference as they were playing different demo.
But ether sony or C1 they have over 1000 nits brightness which will burn in easily for a pc monitor which is dell tune it down to 400cd while normal monitor is 300, and color accuracy is DCI-P3 98.5%, I reckon still deem as decent these days. Donno DCI-P3 for C1 OR sony.
@nng526: RTINGS or HDTVtest reviews will have the colour gamut readings you want. All OLEDs are around 99% anyway.
Good deal
Sony has better motion processing. Very noticeable for me who is sensitive to motion sickness.
And the 65C1 would be better value when it was under $3k a week ago having cash back and vouchers doesn't really make it cheaper….
Would this be better than LG for sport?particularly the nba
If you're primarily watching sports/movies, you'll be better off with the superior picture quality of the Sony.
It's image processing is just leagues ahead of the LG.
Plus better colour accuracy out of the box, better speakers, and better upscaling of high definition content.
Just check out this video for yourself. Mind you the 77" a80j is featured in the video which utilises the Evo panel (brighter image), you can see the details/shadow details are far superior, even against the more expensive LG G1.
https://youtu.be/gkQPHxh1ypc
Can also check out HDTVTest on YouTube for further information.
Thank you for the detailed response kind sir! I will opt for Sony
Its a shame Panasonic left the Australian market, they made the best OLED ever (as far as pure image accuracy is concerned) and it was about $500 cheaper than this too at the time
What’s the best / most recent ‘official’ source that Sony will be bringing VRR? If/when that happens, seems like it’ll tip the balance and make it a better all-rounder than the LGs
How to get the Good Guys cash back?
4k, 55"?
That's a big monitor!
LG still uses WebOS, how is that better than native Android that Sony has?
WebOS lack apps and has glitches, for example Prime App it keeps having issues resuming videos and you have to retry at least once
Note the Sony cashback isn't live yet, as the redemption page is still showing Cashback on Camera and Lens.