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Found this after seeing all the T7 deals. Might be useful for people with eBay Plus.
Only grey colour available at this price and remember to apply the coupon.
[eBay Plus] Samsung 1TB Portable SSD T7 USB3.2 Titan Gray $139 Delivered @ Bing Lee eBay
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Lrhapsodyinblue on 18/11/2021 - 22:43 ebay.com.au (5260 clicks)
Last edited 18/11/2021 - 23:31 by 1 other user
Last edited 18/11/2021 - 23:31 by 1 other user
This is part of Black Friday / Cyber Monday deals for 2021
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keeps getting better and better
Welp, time to return officeworks ones
Do they do a price match with eBay? Because they offer an extra 5% off if they do…
OW would refuse to match anything that requires a membership (i.e. Amazon Prime deals, Costco, feeBay Plus).
OW now price match all of those, OW still doesn't price match against education or other exclusive stores but any of those ones open to the regular public that require paid memberships are now fair game under OW price match policy
@Aelgoof: I don't think they match if a code is required to get the discount though (which this does).
Damn are we playing a game of limbo?
Great just bought it. Thanks!
Why is this so popular among Ozbargain community ?
Guess we will need to buy one to find out
Legit, thinking about it.
As am I, considering its cheaper than getting an 1tb NVMe + enclosure
@vanyellow: Some Samsung drives (T5) have mSATA inside and some (T3) just have USB connector soldered. Let us know what you got.
Bought one
it's the new Eneloops
It’s not just some recent deals and prices coming down. It’s a great drive though - much better than lugging around a 2.5” or 3.5” drive and they’re fast and look great.
Feels really quality too
People just want a 1TB portable SSD that received good reviews. Also, it is ready to be used, no need to buy the enclosure and the SSD separate, install it.
Thing is, it is PCIe gen 3 x2 and limited to 10Gbps (so ~1000MB/s). It's DRAMless SSD and once the SLC cache runs out, its performance is back in TLC SATA SSD level. Most people just don't care about those details, besides, at performance level, USB 3.2 2x2 and Thunderbolt enclosures are all too expensive.
@netsurfer
Any idea why the Kingston XS2000 has double the speeds when they both utilise usb3.2 gen 2x2??
No, T7 is only USB 3.2 gen 2.
XS2000 is USB 3.2 gen 2x2.Thing is, you need a PC/laptop that supports USB 3.2 gen 2x2. Technically, Thunderbolt 3 could support USB 3.2 gen 2x2 (since this whole 2x2 idea is copying Thunderbolt 3). However, do note this:
Most Thunderbolt ports do not support the 3.2 Gen. 2x2 standard and are instead limited to 3.2 Gen. 2
I think that's referring to Thunderbolt 3.
Anyway, before you go and buy XS2000, make sure you PC/laptop/Mac supports it. USB 4, technically should at least implement Gen 2x2 (20Gbps) with Gen 3x2 (40Gbps) being optional.
@netsurfer: All these new USB port standards… I remember when my laptop had an external PCIe slot (used it for a Netgear WiFi card!)… dunno why we can't just go back to that, since it's is a standard connection, just internal.
(if anyone made them) you could have something like an M.2 card that would go into the external PCI slot.
Bargain first, justify later.
Fast. Reliable. Highly compatible (including with the Switch)
Looks like I have to go and cancel my pick up tomorrow at OW, they probably ask why, guess would say found better deal elsewhere!
Great price :!
Got one! Thanks OP 8)
Would buy but concerned about slow postage.
yeah, not going to cancel my OW order over $10 and slower postage.
$130 for 1TB T7 is excellent price!
That normally the price for 500GB
Thanks Op ❤️
Got one, thanks. Great price for top product
ordered one, thanks.
Good price!
Is this faster than a 860 evo?
860 EVO is internal drive, this is external drive
If you use 860 EVO with SSD enclosure (either SATA3 or SATA3 M.2)
you can reach up to 500-550Mb/s read/writeCompare to this T7
it can read up to around 900-1000Mb/s read/write using the USB 3.2 interfaceIf you connect it to a USB 3.1/3.2 gen 2 port AND your usage doesn't involve copying 100GB files, then yes. But, once the SLC cache is exhausted, the sustained write performance is about the same.
If you connect it to a USB 3.0/3.1 non-gen 2 port, then its performance would be inferior coz USB 3.0 would limit the throughput.
Reality: are you taking full advantage of your internal m.2/NVMe SSD? If the answer is no, is an external USB 3.1 gen 2 SSD really going to change that?
I believe 860 evo is a SATA SSD, even the m.2 model
so the max speed will be limited to 500-550MB/s no matter it is using an enclosure and connect externally
or using connect internally with m.2USB 3.0 or 3.1 Gen 1 has a limit of 5Gb/s
so in reality the interface max speed will be around ~450MB/s
in this case, it's not the question on which SSD is faster because the interface is the bottleneckHowever, if 860evo with enclosure and T7 to USB 3.1 / 3.2 Gen2 with 10Gb/s
the T7 will easily out perform 860 evo (at least 30% faster)Once again, as I mentioned, you are quoting sequential read/write of the SLC cache. Furthermore, that requires certain workload to really benefit. You don't buy SSDs to just run benchmark software like Crystal DiskMark.
When it comes to sustained write speed, once the SLC cache is exhausted, it will be back to TLC level (Samsung didn't really do anything special to T7). I've gone through all the tech earlier in my other comments. It's PCIe gen 3 x2 setup, there isn't much point to put a top class PCIe gen 3 x4 SSD in there.
Random read/write is something most people tend to use more. If all you care about is finding an excuse to buy T7, you are welcome to numb your brain by just looking at the SLC cache speed. There is a reason why NVMe SSDs are generally an overkill for most people and we are NOT seeing 2x windows boot speed and so far, most games don't actually run much faster on NVMe.
860 Evo could be used in an enclosure and USB 3.1 gen 2 SATA3 enclosures do exist. I mentioned the USB interface because if one were to use T7 only on USB 3.0 vs 860 Evo on a USB 3.1 gen 2 SATA3 enclosure and on USB 3.1 gen 2, 860 Evo could beat T7 (due to USB 3.0's limited bandwidth).
If you have them both on USB 3.1 gen 2, then in general, you could take advantage of the faster SLC cache and the PCIe gen 3 x2 bandwidth. That said, you need to know how to take advantage of that properly. If you believe you can copy 1TB of files to T7 at 1000MB/s from start to finish, you WILL be quite disappointed. Anything over 100GB, file copying will be virtually the same between the two. However, if the 860 Evo is actually internal SSD, without the USB 3.1 gen 2 overhead, 860 Evo could actually have slightly better effective sustained write.
@netsurfer: yes, totally agree with you that NVMe SSD are overkill for most people / usages
and in reality, most people (including myself) don't find massive performance boost by getting a faster speed NVMe SSD (eg. PCIe gen4) compare to gen 3, or even SATA SSDTho it does make a difference when copying large files to drive (eg. 4K videos) as it will take advantages on sequential speeds rather than random speed
For OS boot speed, probably random speed and caching are more important
@littlesoldier: Copying large files to drive. There are 2 problems with that:
- How fast is the source drive? The source drive is FASTER than 1000MB/sec?
- Anything over 80GB in total, T7 drops to TLC NAND flash write speed, that's ~300MB/s. There is no such thing as write the whole SSD using SLC. It has to do TLC once the cache is exhausted.
As for saying you could copy files from T7 to another device faster. Again, how fast is the target device? If it's going to be an external HDD, then there is also bottleneck.
It's silly to copy 4K video files between multiple NVMe SSDs repeatedly. Also, is SSD really the best use of "storing" 4K videos? You are filling the SSD up (limiting the free cells remaining) and have to deal with sustained write speed (which generally means using the true underlying NAND speed).
T7 is NOT your typical Samsung NVMe SSDs. Samsung knows the ASMedia chipset and limitation of USB 3.1 gen 2, it's silly to put in a top notch NVMe SSD in there. Essentially, the put in a pretty decent controller (to do the SLC turbo read/write), didn't even bother with DRAM (T7 is DRAMless).
Getting T7 to store 4K videos just means either you just want a new toy or you simply have spare cash to do it.
@netsurfer: For me, I do video editing in M1 Mac Mini internal drive and copy it over to external SSD
M1 Mac Mini internal drive is over 2000MB/s sequence read / write
the interface to T7 is using Thunderbolt 4 (with USB 3.1 Gen 2)Since my Mac Mini only have 512GB I used to back up some already edited videos to the external SSD
In my use case, I don't totally agree your point of "Getting T7 to store 4K videos just means either you just want a new toy or you simply have spare cash to do it."@littlesoldier: T7 is something a Mac user would want (due to Apple overcharging storage upgrade). However, if we are looking at M1, we know its USB transfer issue (subpar).
Mac Mini is Thunderbolt 3. Also, T7 is USB 3.1 gen 2 so let's not pretend that's Thunderbolt 3. Again, the internal drive only gets that speed when SLC cache is not exhausted. M1, generally, the storage performance is disappointing. Comparing to M1 Pro or M1 Max, there is no PCIe gen 4 storage support from the look of it. Even 2000MB/s sequential read/write is somewhat disappointing for internal SSD in today's standard.
Furthermore, with Macs, unless you get a 3rd party software, it does NOT show you the actual transfer speed. That doesn't mean you can ASSUME it is at that speed. You cannot run a benchmark software that basically prepare the data in RAM, get the sequential max speed and assume the drive operates in that speed all the time.
A lot of the youTube videos are click-baits. People are not interested in the ugly side on how SSD makers trick customers. Also, if you copy a lot of small files, there is no way you get the max sequential read/write. There is way too much sugarcoating on the SSD speed (with the most common Apple app simply measures only sequential read/write). Do you even know your Mac internal SSD's 4K random read/write speed? How about mixed I/O speed?
M1 isn't perfect. Why not give Mac users USB 3.2 gen 2 USB-A ports as well? Why waste a Thunderbolt 3 port on USB 3.2 gen 2? Intel has been arrogant and silly, but they have consistently put USB 3.2 gen 2 USB-A ports on NUCs for 4 years now. With only 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports AND TB3 enclosures are crazy expensive, having general public wasting a Thunderbolt 3 port on USB 3.1/3.2 gen 2 SSD just isn't in the best interest of the customer.
@netsurfer: Just my real life experience upgrading from a SATA SSD (850 evo with enclosure) to T7
while I don't see the actual transfer speed, the time needed to copy the same file does improve quite a lot (eg. multiple ~4GB files )I have no regret of upgrading to T7 from the original SATA SSD as it does save time by speeding up file transfers
@littlesoldier: Your usage pattern probably doesn't involve copying a lot of files at once. That said, it is why the SSD marketing works. The SLC cache burst is often enough to make customers happy.
If you basically copy 1 4GB video file at a time (i.e. after you complete the video) and you just want something faster than USB 3.0, then sure T7 is good enough. However, let's not quote 1000MB/s for M1 given that we know it has issues with USB transfer being slightly subpar. In fact, it is somewhat a compensation due to its subpar USB 3 storage transfer performance.
For M1 Mac Mini, you don't need to use one USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 port to charge power so I guess T7 is fine. Honestly though, you are not really taking full advantage of T7 with your usage.
@littlesoldier: Have a look at this:
https://tpucdn.com/review/kingston-xs2000-2-tb/images/random…Kingston XS2000 is gen 2x2, basically another class above T7, technically double the speed of T7. However, look at the difference between 860 EVO 1 TB in a USB 3.0 adapter vs 860 EVO as internal SSD. Honestly, there is a lot of marketing done with SSD and you always see sequential read/write being quoted. However, using external SSD for archiving is luxury.
Lastly, to make things even more interesting… USB 3.2 gen 2x2 are now hitting the market:
https://www.amazon.com.au/Kingston-XS2000-Portable-External-…
So, would you get one? Double the sequential read/write (when using SLC cache). Jokes aside, I'm not sure whether M1's Thunderbolt 3 supports USB 3.2 gen 2x2 (need to make sure it does first).
@netsurfer: Thanks for the info, probably won't upgrade at the moment as the current performance is acceptable for me
given said that, $139 for a T7 1TB is a no brainer
The Kingston XS2000 which is faster in spec, is still more expensive
Priced at $149 now, they jacked up the price since then. With the $10 eBay plus discount code brings it back to $139, nevertheless still a good deal.
Um… that's how deals are normally posted. The price in the title is "after" discount code is applied. Check the purchase history, no price jack (at least not yet).
Whoops, my bad. got confused with the $10 eBay voucher.
Any price prediction for 1TB Samsung T5 for Boxing Day?
My guess would be $100
its T7 tho
waiting too
I got one, i may just use it for gaming until an internal 2tb SSD comes along at a good price. Then that is when i will switch it to hard storage and photos
Iam waiting for 2tb from sandisk
I am waiting for a solution to global hunger and for world peace.
There is already a 2TB version… but not cheap.
Edit: sorry just saw you were asking for SanDisk. TBH, I have found Samsung more reliable. SanDisk not what they used to be…
What format should I use with these? ExFat?
I will use ExFat as I plan to use in both Windows and MacOS (and /or Linux)
if you only plan to use in Windows then NTFS will be ok too
Damn, almost 3000 clicks and more than 500 sold in less than 10 hours…this does not bode well.
Had a bad experience with Bing Lee ebay store in the past ("inventory error", unavailable to supply….)
Had a bad experience with Bing Lee ebay store in the past ("inventory error", unavailable to supply….)
Is there a single Australian seller that hasn't done that?
Perhaps ebay, at least, forces them to watch the stock. The law doesn't, so normally they can just take your money and return it after a week. Or sometime.
There are substitutes for like $30 which gives 4Tb of space.
Wonder whats the difference between Sammy and them?
The substitutes are 4x cheaper and have 4x more space then. Good luck. /s
Agree. I guess it's all in the speeds and you cant expect much in quality and durability when you buy cheap, it will probably die off in a year or two but Sammy would last longer than that and have better transfer speeds.
You answered your own question.
Can you give us some examples of portable ssd substitutes thats $30 for 4TB?
Depends on how you value your Data. If your data is cheap and easily replaceable, well, buy the cheap shitty drive. If not, never touch the cheap drive.
Yeah nah bro, these are fakes.
can I remove the case and use for PC internal Hard disk?
Very likely will void the warranty
If it is for internal use
why not just get a NVMe SSD instead?eg. Kingston nv1 is just $119
https://www.pcbyte.com.au/p/kingston-nv1-m-2-2280-nvme-1tb-p…I keep wondering why people ask those questions…
Even if it was possible to shuckle, it's not cheaper than a bare SSD, right?
I think they like the challenge :)
cancelled my amazon order for this :D Phewww.. saved $10 for another impulse buy next time
I bet they don't have stock for this, unless ebay smack them over the knuckles
you broden? If no stock then I will at least get a $10 for free upon Paypal refund. even better FREE money. Unless the giftcard is not issued after seller unable to fullfil.
Totally fine I'm not losing anything
I found the T5 to be better than the T7 overall. (I have 6 of these and 3 2TB ones)
The T7 is faster but these use less current and seem to "stall" less with smaller files.
Also if the adapter breaks/fails, these (at least mine do) have a normal mSATA drive inside. (T7 is integrated)
Oh well, I picked up one from OW deal and started using it, and saw this deal.
Bought another one. Ozbargain spirit.
Great deal. Signed up for eBay plus Trial, activate the $10 gift card, use coupon to get $10 off.
Cancel eBay plus sub and deleted the Automatic Payment authorisation on Paypal. Done this after payment gone thru and order came thru. F#$% eBay plus, i don't give a stuff about it, they attempted to charge me in full when eBay plus $1 promotion annual. Refused to refund, I disputed via Paypal to get my money back F$%^ eBay
$5 more for the red version at Amazon
you get get $10 gift card from ebay
Thanks for sharing. Grat deal, Love IT!
lol got one last night, let's see if it actually arrives or if I get my money back… eventually
still haven't ship yet
Let's see if they can fulfil if not maybe we can PayPal dispute and get free $10 from ebay
bought 18/11 still haven't shipped yet
At what point do you lodge a dispute….? No. Update re shipping yet :(
Can also stack with the free $10 ebay gift card after $90 spend deal the other day, effectively making it $129.
Nice.
Thanks
How to: accept offer, buy anything greater than $90. Ebay will send giftcard to you later. Thus, I reorder one to meet the T/C
Did anyone get confirming email after spending? how long does it take?
Thanks, I have plus but never saw this $10 offer until now