Toshiba Kioxia Exceria 960GB
Capacity:
960GB
Read Speed (MB/s):
555MB/s
Write Speed (MB/s):
540MB/s
4KB Random Read (IOPS):
81000IOPS
4KB Random Write (IOPS):
88000IOPS
Terrabytes Written:
240TBW
Interface:
SATA
Form Factor:
2.5"
Not a super fast SSD, but good price and capacity for a 2nd data SSD in the laptop.
I've always find it hard to max out TBW…. what do you guys to do to get your money worth?
I'm not a heavy user, just mentioning in relation to similar drive
Thats still 65Gb of Data written per day over 10 years!
Still not enough prawns
Yet actual usage is 2 - 3 huge games taking up the space. They tested the waters and now its all downhill for compression.
This is probably perfect for a PS4 console upgrade, PS4/slim is limited to SATA 2 and PS4 Pro is SATA 3
Post will be another $9.90 to 2210
Nope:
Shipping Cost To Post Code 2210 $9.90
Discounts Applied
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Dang mine still 9.90
Im always unlucky sad reacts
for this price, I will grab one. thanks op
Wait, hold up, toshiba is still around?
I've never heard of this ssd.
They make really good NVME drives.
This drive is pretty average but at this price worth it for mass storage applications.
Toshiba makes NAND flashes and before Sandisk being acquired by WD, Sandisk used a fair amount of Toshiba NAND chips. A lot of SSDs actually use Toshiba NAND flash chips (including a lot of PCIe gen 4 NVMe SSDs). One of their customers is Apple by the way. Apple source NAND chips from multiple suppliers (Samsung, Toshiba etc…).
This one feels more like OEM class SSD. Heavily optimised for sequential read/write (though its sustained write is not impressive). Random read/write is subpar for a TLC SATA3 SSD. Price is good and seems to be in the QLC range. It's understandable though. With 3 year warranty only and the subpar random read/write performance, in some tests, Samsung QVO SSD can even beat it (QVO has dynamic turbo write / dynamic SLC cache). That said, its sustained write does beat QLC SSDs.
Phison S11 controller - so a budget tier SSD.
Price per GB is good for an SSD though.
TIL. Thanks. Last I've heard of Toshiba, I've heard they were filing for bankruptcy.
I'm really pleased to hear about these ssds. My next NAS is probably just gonna be ssds, given these prices and performances.
On 29 March 2017, Toshiba's Westinghouse filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. On 6 April 2018, Toshiba announced the completion of the sale of Westinghouse's holding company to Brookfield Business Partners.
For this SSD, Toshiba can undercut competition because they produce the NAND flash chips. We are seeing multiple Phison S11 based SSDs on heavy discount. There is a good reason for that, these low end, DRAMless, inferior grade TLC NAND SSDs are just not well liked.
@netsurfer: Oh they're dramless and tlc? Thanks for informing me. Yeah, they make sense price wise then.
@netsurfer: I find a ton of Toshiba drives in OEM and prebuilt stuff, but have to specifically go out of your way to find their brand on aftermarket parts, especially batteries.
Maximum Order Quantity: 1
Thanks OP.
Hopefully SE fullfill this - my last order was shipped to wrong address, returned, not reshipped and then refunded.
Is this an external drive with USB cable?
No it's an internal SATA SSD.
True but with a decent enclosure for less than $20…..
would a Samsung QVO or Crucial BX500 1TB be better than this?
Seen prices go for $99 - Crucial BX500 1TB
and you get 40 GB more..
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/search/node/Crucial%20BX500%201…
Depends, and we are talking about the 1TB QLC based SSDs vs this one (if it is <1TB, forget QLC SSDs altogether unless they are super dirt cheap). At 1TB, those QLC based SSDs employ dynamic SLC cache write, which, when the drive is mostly empty, can write up to 100GB in SLC cache speed. Samsung QVO has another advantage, it has DRAM so if you have workload or usage that can benefit from that, then QVO might be better (then again, these DRAMless SSDs do use host PC memory). This TLC's controller is budget class whereas the controller in Samsung QVO would be optimised for more channels I reckon. BX500 1TB, however, is a heavily cost cutting version of a QLC SSD.
While the true sustained write on this TLC NAND SSD is better, we are looking at around 170MB/s (after all, this one uses "budget" grade TLC NAND chip(s)). Also, if sustained write is important, are these budget grade TLC or QLC SSDs really the way to go? With the TBW of this cheap TLC SSD being subpar, do you really want to write a lot of data to it very often?
It is more about what kind of compromises you want to go for. At budget class, it is generally quite simple, it is basically $/GB. The only twist is Samsung's warranty being great (you often get an SSD "upgrade" replacement), but if you had to use the warranty service, that means the SSD has failed (and that often means data loss).
what if I want to put the SSD in a ps4 pro?
Any of these ssd suitable ?
-Toshiba Kioxia Exceria, QVO, BX = 1TB
Is the QVO the best out of that list and suitable for ps4
or should I just get the regular samsung EVO SSD?
I would like to get 1TB or ideally 2TB for ps4 etc..
PS4 Pro gaming, I reckon just get the cheapest per GB. Developers are not going to optimise PS4 Pro games for SSD. All 3 are 3 year warranty. You really want to change the internal HDD to the SSD?
Sustained write is a non-issue (since you will mostly likely only copy a large amount of data once). Then, it will be downloads from NBN (which is slow).
EVO… are you able to get a good price? Yeah, if we have a cheap 2TB SATA3 SSD on special, it would be very interesting. Anyway, I am not sure it is worthwhile getting EVO since PS5/Series X support USB 3.1 gen 2 so you probably want to go down cheap yet decent NVMe SSD path (and for PS5, you need a PCIe gen 4 SSD, for Series X, that memory expansion is currently a rip off).
Anyway, you need to make a decision that you are happy with. Don't worry about the tech side of things or other people's opinions. You would get EVO if you intend to re-purpose it on a PC later on. Or, if you want to prep for PS5, start looking at PCIe gen 4 SSDs.
@netsurfer: the main reason for upgrading from hdd to ssd for ps4 is many of the 2.5" (larger than 2TB) are too thick for ps4
and also many of the 2.5" shuckable one e.g. seagate are Rosewood drives which is crap..
And WD aren't shuckable due to the soldered on usb boards
I also saw some youtube where load times was improved for ps4 with SSD..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InermmePbd4
Also this load times table shows improvement in load times..
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-8tb-p…
In terms of good price for 2TB
only ones that are cheap are QVO and BX deals..
EVO 2TB is still expensive..
In regards ps5, hope they will have proper 2TB models..
860GB not good considering how big the games are nowadays..
if we add PCIe gen 4 SSD
does it add to the existing 860GB storage?
yeah price is still high for PCIe gen 4 SSD so not interested right now..
@pinkybrain: Yeah, Seagate Rosewood drives are horrible. PS5, the m.2 PCIe gen 4 SSD is a separate drive inside PS5, but you can install PS5 games to it. The cheapest deals so far were $325 for the PNY 2TB and the $155 for the hacky WD Black SN750 SE 1TB (The SE edition is PCIe gen 4 (and cheaper than non-SE), but is able to trick PS5).
If you prefer the tried and tested EVO series and the 5 year warranty, then go for EVO. If you are willing to settle for 3 year warranty and managed to get a good deal on one of those budget SSDs, then go for one of those. I cannot give you an objective opinion as I have transitioned to PS5 and Series X, so I tend to have the view not to overspend on PS4 Pro or XBox One X upgrades. However, both are still pretty capable consoles.
Does anyone have actual experience with Toshiba SSD?
The number of Toshiba 2.5" HARD disks we've had to swap out on customer notebooks in the last 5 years is ridiculous. I certainly wouldn't ever touch them but curious to know if their SSDs are reliable.
Reliability does not depend on the brand, it depends more on the model. I have had Samsung SSDs failed. One of them within 1 year. Samsung 840 is known to have a lot of issues (including slow old data read). 840 EVO has the firmware "workaround" to address a similar issue, but at least Samsung released it. Samsung left 840 (non-EVO) owners with no workaround.
Continuing that trend, 950 Pro, being Samsung's first gen NVMe SSD, also has a higher failure rate than usual. Samsung's first gen new technology products don't have good reliability it seems. We do not know how reliable this one is. Used to like WD hard drives, but had bad experience with WD Green and WD hard drive warranty I received for a WD 7200rpm HDD was quite bad (the replacement drive died within 6 month and that replacement drive had constant a high pitch noise).
With 3 year warranty and low TBW, don't expect too much.
Brand is an important factor as well as model..
You wouldn't want to get SSD from some chinese brand or company that is not known for being in the business of SSD or hard drives.
While it is true that some models may have had failure issue..so do a quick research of that model before buying if there is known issue reported..
I would still trust a Samsung SSD over a gigabyte or chinese brand SSD etc..
That's the issue going with brand. The top notch Seagate NVMe PCIe gen 4 SSD uses Phison E18 controller. Gigabyte would basically follow Phison design and source other components from either Samsung, Micron or Toshiba. So if Gigabyte used a Phison controller and Samsung NAND chips, don't consider it because it is Gigabyte? Even if it offers 5 year warranty?
Also, I gave you an example of Samsung's shonky practice. Clearly, Samsung knew 840 had issues, that's why 840 Evo was released in less than a year. When all the attentions was on the 840 Evo slow read issue, Samsung completely neglected 840 owners. I was glad my 840 failed. I was quite unhappy that I put faith in Samsung and Samsung did a dodgy brother on 840 owners. Even Samsung warranty department is smart enough not to replace the hopeless 840 with less hopeless, but still hopeless 840 Evo. It was replaced with an 850 Evo. I also have Samsung OEM SSDs. Those, Samsung do cut corners.
It also depends on how many SSDs you have and which ones. If you have more SSDs with Samsung NAND chips, it is logical that you will have more SSDs failed with Samsung NAND chips.
@netsurfer: not saying trust a brand 100% completely.. since well known brands have been known to release dodgy/crap/faulty products..
It is a combination of (brand trust + research of reviews of the particular model you are interested + personal experience of the brand)
That is the best way to go about buying any products that cost lots of money.
Gigabyte is a brand not generally known for SSD but known for motherboards and other pc parts like GPU…
If after some time period the gigabyte brand gets more sales and the model gets good reviews and not reported issues then it will increase their trust.. then that is when I would consider it as an option.
For SSD there is only two well known brand that has been selling SSD for a long time now
-Samsung and crucial
Of course at the end of the day..
your own personal experience with the item you bought will be the biggest factor in deciding what to buy next..
If you had bad experience with a few models from a particular brand then you are unlikely to trust that brand in the future.
.. whether the newer model has good reviews or not..
This is true for all of us.. and applies with everything in our life.
This is known as bias
example of bias but in area of racism
A shopkeeper got robbed a few times by people who were black..
So in the future shopkeeper will be more cautious when any black person enters the store.. etc..
Kioxia (Toshiba) are actually one of the market leaders when it comes to Enterprise/DC SSDs. Most large customers run either Intel or Kioxia SSDs in DCs these days.
Might be better to get some smaller faster NVME 3.5GB/s
I just find it funny an OEM is selling this cheap stuff.
OOS
OOS
Bought one to extend the life of a PC with a full M.2 drive and it arrived today.
Speed is 552 MB/s read, 481 MB/s write according to CrystalDiskMark.
Seems pretty low for a TBW