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7x COVID-19 Rapid Antigen Tests $43.20 (Account Required) Delivered @ Healthylife

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A good deal from healthy life (The Woolies online store). 7 tests are 20% off then use HONEY10 for a further 10% off. Delivery free for account holders (free to join) over $30 spend.

Qualitative detection of SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid antigen in nasal specimen directly from individuals suspected of COVID-19 infection – for screening purposes​. Non-intrusive shallow nasal swab. Results showing in 15 minutes. Convenient storage conditions: 2 - 30°C. * Non-intrusive shallow nasal swab * Prefilled extraction tube for ease of use. * Convenient storage conditions: 2-30 degree. This product cannot be shipped to WA or SA due to government state guidelines.

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  • +6

    Used one today and it worked…

    • +7

      You mean you tested positive!

      • +4

        Positively negative

        • +4

          No, his result was Aladeen

    • +1

      How could you know it worked unless you tested positive? :)

      • +1

        There's an invalid result too. So 3 types of results are possible.

        • +1

          That's true. Honestly, I don't think you can ever figure out whether this worked correctly unless you compare it with an actual COVID test while you're positive.

          • @Zackeroo: But this is an actual COVID test la la la la

            • @bargainshooter: The reviews seem really good but I just can't help but think that they couldn't be as accurate as the drive through COVID tests.

              I'm open to any reasons why this isn't the case tho, I know I could be wrong but in genuinely curious why this would be the case.

              • +2

                @Zackeroo: Of course they’re not. They are not designed to replace the need for 24-hour PCR tests. They are complementary to those. Different circumstances - for those occasions where you wouldn’t go get a test (asymptomatic and not a PCC) but want peace of mind (knowing not always accurate - but better than nothing).

                • +3

                  @fookos: That seems like a terrible use case, piece of mind but not accurate.

              • @Zackeroo: Do you know what the false positive/negative rates are at the official drive through covid stations are? If so, I'd love to know your reference.
                I doubt there are any non-anecdotal (that is, scientific) verified results being kept. But hey, if testing makes people feel good or safer, why not.

        • +1

          You have to do at least two tests (on different days I believe) to bring the accuracy up.

          • @mitch01: Yes. This is the key comment.

            The published data is showing that sensitivity (the likelihood of detecting a positive case on subsequent PCR after a rapid antigen test) for asymptomatic subjects (so for the purposes of screening) may be as low as 40-60%.

            So testing twice may bring the sensitivity to ~75%. And thrice, ~85-90%.

            But repeated testing is almost certainly not going to increase the power of the sensitivity in this linear statistic fashion, as some of the variables that are contributing to low sensitivity, such as collection error, and just the nature of a low viral load in asymptomatic patients, means that false negatives (i.e. missing positive cases) will remain too high to be a valid test.

            The utility of these tests are really for symptomatic subjects who are in the first 5 days of their infection. In those cases, sensitivity rises to ~95% (for some of the higher accuracy rapid antigen tests, many of them perform poorer), which is the statistic that most consumers are mistaking as being relevant to them (as they are likely using them as asymptomatic screening, not symptomatic, on themselves).

            Conclusion: On an individual customer basis, these rapid antigen tests have extremely limited utility for screening, but are useful if you have a coryzal illness (in which case, you really should be getting a PCR test anyway regardless of the rapid antigen test result if you're working or socializing in the age of a pandemic). On a population screening basis, they can pick up on a significant number (but far less than all) of asymptomatic carriers who could then be tested and isolated, which could assist in reducing exposure events, and this is how some governments and employers are utilizing them. I don't yet see a rationale for individual testing.

    • Hopefully, it wasnt made in here

  • +13

    Very high sensitivity on TGA website. Awesome price!

    • +2

      This is an amazing resource. Didn't think any of them would be 95%+ PPA but quite surprised, certainly will show which ones to buy and avoid.

      • +1

        The information on the TGA website is supplied by the manufacturers. "There are 25 to 30 of them [rapid antigen tests] on the market and not all of them perform the same way. …In independent testing in several states, particularly New South Wales, Victoria and WA, they've looked at these [rapid antigen] tests, and some 5 for 6 were in the very, very high sensitivity bracket and very useful. Others really performed quite poorly, but all of them are TGA approved, and so if those ones [sic] are going to go out on the shelves, then I have a worry that not all of the cases [of infection] will be picked up. Whereas I would have more confidence in a couple of brands. … I would draw people's attention to the New South Wales Health website, for example, where they did recommend the top few. I think that website is still up." - Dr. Ian Norton, Managing Director of Respond Global. Unfortunately those recommendations are no longer on the website. Source: ABC Coronacast.

        • +1

          The information on the TGA website is supplied by the manufacturers

          It still has to be correct to at least some degree? Otherwise why isn't everyone saying there's is 95%+ "very high sensitivity"? For something like this to be unregulated would be asinine although not entirely surprising tbh.

  • +3

    Do these have an expiry?

    • +8

      Yes.
      What I can offer is this.
      I got this deal (from the same site though brand appears different)
      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/660786
      The ones that showed up had a manufacturing date of 25/10/2021 and it stated the expiry as 24/10/22. So they appear to be a year though I don't know if in the real world that's conservative - can't imagine their accuracy just switching off at an arbitrary 1 year.

  • Around six dollars for one

  • It seems to be making me charge for shipping?

  • +1

    Nice job, worked for me!

  • Parson my ignorance
    When/ why would these be useful?

    • +10

      For me, child under 12 (so can't be vaccinated) visiting grandparents. Peace of mind…

    • +4

      kerry chant said to use before going to events/night clubs.

      • This would only work if everyone does it. Which they won't, especially because it costs money. So while a nice idea in theory, just because you do the right thing and test yourself before going, imagine how many people won't.

        • I know !! I wish it would be mandatory for everyone. At least it gives me piece of mind that I won’t start a super spreading event.

    • +3

      It is not a diagnostic test, it is an indicative test. The good ones are +95% accurate, so pretty close.

      If it comes up indicating that you are positive to COVID19, maybe you should skip the +100 person wedding where you will hug and kiss ALL of your extended family. Maybe you should go get a PCR test first before you attend?

      Too many other circumstances to list.

  • +6

    I was paying $3.75 USD before I came back to Oz just to give you an idea of the mark up they are making here

    • +18

      So $5.28AUD Vs $6.17….really not that different….

      • They sell for ten dollars RRP heree

        • +26

          Yes, but this is OzB - Who pays RRP… :)

      • +2

        Not including shipping, overheads, taxes etc

      • It's not but $150 for someone to do the same test anyone can do themselves and a sheet of A4 printed paper.

  • -1

    Problem lies in that most don't do the test procedure correctly…so basically a waste of time.

    • the test says if the sample is invalid

      • +6

        You can swab your carpet and it will come back as validly negative

        • ohhh damn.. i haven't tried that since the tests are expensive.

        • +3

          There's probably enough human matter in your carpet.

    • +1

      If your eyes arent watering you're not doing it right

    • +3

      That's why it's important to choose products identified with good sensitivity (as per TGA link above), so there's a little more margin for error by the user.

      It's not a waste of time if you give yourself more confidence to visit older relatives, noting nothing you test for at home will be as accurate as a high-end piece of lab-based pathology equipment to run a PCR.

      • +4

        I agree. I think of my older relatives too. Before leaving a nightclub, blowing into the breathalyser until I'm under 0.05 is not a waste of time to give myself more confidence to drive on the road. God knows if my drink was spiked.

        • -3

          You sure you’re going to a nightclub and not a church service? As a almost 40 year old I’m deeply disturbed that in the 15 years since my clubbing days ended we’ve gone from being surprised if you remember any of the previous night and wondering how you got home, to carrying a breathalyser because you drove to the nightclub and worry whether your drink has been spiked instead of being happy you didn’t have to shell out $25 to do it yourself.

    • Most tests are spit in here, jam this up here, or leave in your mouth for 2 minutes. Very easy to do.

      • +6

        spit in here, jam this up here, or leave in your mouth for 2 minutes

        An experience I'd gladly pay $6 for. Normally have to pay much more :)

    • +1

      Most? The instructions are simple and easy to understand pictograms.

  • Seems useful to bring travelling in 2022 to be safe before any international outgoing and return departure flight or for any symptoms when travelling

    • +1

      You will need a diagnostic PCR test to travel anywhere in 2022, these will not do. They will however be useful while you are traveling if you get a sniffle to work out if you need to go get a PCR test.

      • +1

        Not planning to use them to replace a PCR test. It'll be useful to know before the PCR test each way if I won't be flying anywhere if I test positive. Last thing I want is to be stuck in a foreign country unable to get out on the last day with no accommodation booked.

  • +3

    How strict are the storage conditions? I'm sure my house would get above the 30°C occasionally.

    • +2

      I mean technically in your fridge puts them in the required range.

    • -5

      Wow 30… invest in some insulation or an AC.

      • +1

        Do you run your AC if nobody is home for the entire day? Or even away on holidays? Seems like a waste of money and an even bigger waste of electricity.

        • Even so a single level brick home shouldn't exceed 30 indoors even on 40+ days.

          • +1

            @Mondorock: It is quite normal for a brick dwellings to reach 30+ during extended stretches of hot weather. The bricks don't get a chance to cool down overnight and the direct heat during the day builds up over a few days.

  • +4

    Also (maybe targeted?) after signup banner shows 2000 points for over $50 spend (plus 10x points on order), so I ordered 2 packs for $86.40 shipped, nice!

  • Anyone know Why aren’t these allowed to be shipped to WA and SA?

    • Only Mark knows.

    • +2

      Because they come in contact with other states and that's way too high risk to possibly transmit anything /j

    • I don't know - I ordered a different brand from CWH the other day and received it without problems in SA, though I guess it's possible it was dispatched from within the state and didn't cross any borders to get here.

      • Currently CWH mentions not for SA/WA on the product description. Was that there when you ordered?

        If so I might give it a shot too.

        • +1

          I don't remember reading that at the time (around Black Friday sale)

  • Does this work for Omicron variant etc?

    Would be annoying if it's unlikely to work for all variants including future ones.

    I assume the virus variants are similar enough they can all be detected?

  • Nice work. Ordered!

    • +2

      Yes and people should still get vaccinated and tested to protect each other. It's a 1in 100 year pandemic, a vaccination is not a one stop solution we should continue using all the tools we have available to fight it.

    • +1

      Statistically, the vaccine almost entirely protects you from a lonely horrible death in a covid ward with tubes down your throat.

      Whether that's something you care about or not is up to you. :)

        • +4

          Yep, the thousands of doctors working for Pfizer are only in it for the cash, every one of them knows "this one simple trick" to instantly cure COVID, but they are perfectly happy to let literally MILLIONS of people die so they make some sweet, sweet cash………. makes sense.

          • -4

            @dtpearson: Not sure what you implying but yes Pfizer and every other pharmacy benifits from vaccine more than making medicine as medicine are only used by those who has disease while vaccine is taken by everyone..so you go figure and do the maths… !

          • -2

            @dtpearson: Just for record I have both dose of Pfizer so I am not against vaccine.

            If you read medical journals then there was good article recently on lack of funding to find cure for Covid as most government funding going for vaccine development. That is why USA just fee week ago announced fund for cure as they are now realise that vaccine can protect but without cure there is no end to this pandemic… !

    • +12

      1970 - Wearing a seatbelt reduces the risk of death in a car accident by 45%, and cut the risk of serious injury by 50%, but there is a tiny chance that seatbelt could actually kill you in an accident (sometimes its safer to be thrown clear of the vehicle, eg if the vehicle ends up in a river) = we made it mandatory for everyone to wear a seatbelt…… and everyone was happy with that

      2021 - The COVID vaccines reduce the risk of risk of death by more than 90%, and cut the risk of serious injury from COVID by more than 90%, they also reduce the risk of you passing it on and infecting others (not prevent, just reduce the risk by about 5x) = Government asks that you go get a few jabs to protect yourself and others around you…… and everyone is happy with that, except for a tiny percentage of people who refuse to and loose their shit over being asked…..

        • +6

          That's what an analogy means, sounds pretty spot on to me.

          What a great argument. who cares about saving lives from covid when more people die eating maccers

          • -1

            @Halc: Yeah who cares about people who die from anything else but covid right? Whatever happened to all the people that died from the good old influenza that we never heard about which magically stopped in early 2020s?

            • +2

              @TheEnd: what a strawman argument, so you would walk past a child playing on a busy road because, hey, what about all those african kids starving?

              influenza kills thousands annually, we have a vaccine for it which has saved many thousands more. it 'went away' in 2020-21 because of the covid social distancing measures and masks, we will probably have a rebound flu season next year because of lower natural immunity.

              i must have missed a point that you were trying to make in there somewhere?

        • +3

          What is "synthetic mRNA"? H2O can be made from combining hydrogen and oxygen, and its exactly the same as collecting "natural" H2O. You do realise that every cell in your body has millions of different mRNA strands floating around all the time as part of our "natural" processes.

          • +1

            @dtpearson: i'm all for natural, organic seatbelts made from dead animals rather than the synthetic seatbelts we are made to use!

          • @dtpearson: Again apples and oranges. Unless a seatbelt is a medical procedure that is injected into your body, this analogy is ignorant and does not make you look smart at all. I do not know anyone who has stroke or pericarditis using a seatbelt, however I know several people who have had those side effects from the vax.
            Anyhow, I could careless what you inject into your body. However forcing everyone else to get it is something I strongly disagree with.

        • +1

          People eating unhealthy diets doesn’t affect those around them, unlike when spreading the virus. Maybe do your “research” on how viruses work ;)

          • -1

            @Griffindinho: I am astonished at your ignorance. How about you do your own "research" on who is more at risk from the virus? Obesity, diabetes all puts you in the at risk category. Also, if someone is not injected with a substance that has no long term safety data, does that automatically make them contagious? From the latest data, it looks like the vaxxed are spreading it to each other.
            Just read out loud what you write and see how ridiculous it sounds.

            • +1

              @TheEnd: i suggest you read his comment again instead of going off on another tangent. he is saying dying of a heart attack from eating burgers does not endanger others.

              • @Halc: Heart attacks endanger others in many ways such as the hospitals being full, having a heart attack while driving and smashing into oncoming traffic. FYI, I never once mentioned burgers.

                • +1

                  @TheEnd: bit of a stretch mate. i suppose you can say a suicide by jumping off a building can potentially endanger others by killing someone on the street. not quite the same as being a superspreader whilst infectious with covid.

                  • @Halc: You assume that if you're not vaccinated, you are infectious superspreader which is false and moronic.
                    According to the "experts", vaccinated people are the superspreaders.

                    https://ibb.co/Z21zLLs

                    • +1

                      @TheEnd: you realise 93% of eligible population is vaccinated right? of course the majority of Omicron is spread by vaccinated people, because there are more than 12x as many vaccinated as unvaccinated.

          • +1

            @Griffindinho: Vaccine doesn't stop spread, it help reduce severity of the disease… !

  • -1

    Are these made in China? If yes, are there any Aussie made alternatives?

    • +1

      Many, including the one in this post, are made in China. https://www.tga.gov.au/covid-19-rapid-antigen-self-tests-are…

      There is an approved Australian test (InnoScreen) but it appears they're trying to only sell it to approved end users so they can be sure the staff administering the test are doing it properly. However a quick search found a couple places that appear to sell it to the public for around $12-15 per test.

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