Update: FB Marketplace Buyer Wants a Refund after I Sold Him a Computer That Is Older than He Thought -

LMunsta1975 on 15/03/2022 - 19:16
Last edited 15/03/2022 - 19:25 by 1 other user

G'day everyone….you may remember a post made by user 15fps740m who said I wanted a refund after finding out a PC was older than I thought.

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/687454

If you have forgotten how it went, here is the link above to his post and subsequent comments and replies. After not getting the response he wanted, he deleted his replies and disabled his account. There are a few people who agreed with him, and I have no problem with that at all. I believe 99.99% of you here wouldn't act as he did in this situation and would have answered the questions put to him truthfully and honestly. He admitted that he didn't want to lose the sale, and by deception was able to close the deal. Buyer beware is the saying. Yep, I agree to that too. I hate that I have to beware….why can't we all just do the right thing?

This is where I asked if the components were current BEFORE going to the sellers house.

15fps740m:
What did you have in mind? I am negotiable

Munsta1975:
Gee, I don't know mate. I am after a PC that my daughter and I can use for video editing…(maybe some games too…don't tell the missus).

Munsta1975:
Are the components still current?

15fps740m:
Yes the components will keep up with video editing and gaming no problem. Very relevant and current components. I have someone else interested at $1000 but they are waiting to get paid so if you wanted to get it before them you are welcome to

I went over, picked up the PC and went home.

I wanted to give the PC some extra grunt by getting some faster RAM. I found some and bought it from K1w1-Chris. I had mentioned that the PC was about 12 months old as told by seller and K1w1-Chris assured me that if this was the case, the DDR4 3600mhz RAM would be fine. I got home and tried to fit it and ended up asking K1w1-Chris if I was doing something wrong. I sent images of the inside of the case and was told that the main components were over 10 years old and not current as seen by 15fps740m's reply to my messenger question above and below.

I made contact with 15fps740m and the conversation is below:

Wed 2:41 PM
Munsta1975:
Hey mate.
You said the pc is about 12 months old yeah.

Wed 3:08 PM
15fps740m
Yes it was put together about 12 months ago

Munsta1975:
Right…are you home later?
I went to put some new ram in and was told that the board will only take dr3
the CPU was released in 2011
not very current in my book mate.
as someone who doesn't know much about all of this now I usually trust most people when I ask them questions.

15fps740m:
It was the fastest CPU in the world at release and easily keeps up with CPU’s from 2016/17, and the ram runs in triple channel so is comparable to DDR4 speed. I’m sure it will suit your needs.

Munsta1975:
Its 2022 mate
not 2011
I'll be bringing it back. Have my money.

15fps740m:
Sorry, I won’t be able to offer you a refund on the PC. I think you paid fair market value for what the parts are worth, the graphics card is selling for over $400 at the moment.

Munsta1975:
We'll see about that.

The conversation ended there. I was pretty pissed off and ready to head over with the PC, but thanks to my level headed wife, I stayed home and was prepared to just let it go and upgrade the PC down the track. Then last Friday the 11th March, I got a PM from K1w1-Chris about the post and that he had left a comment and shared the post with me. After reading the sellers comments and that he had told me those things because he didn't want to lose the sale, I decided the opposite of what Elsa sang…I wasn't going to Let It Go. The seller had sent me an image of a receipt that had his mobile number on it, I rang it and left a message that I had seen his post and how it wasn't turning out the way he wanted. To put the story to bed, I went back Saturday morning, got my $900 back after he checked to make sure I didn't rip him off. (I think he forgot who the deceitful one was.) and I now have an amazing machine that I spent a bit extra on and I am very, very happy with….this one has the flashy RGB's on it too. They are so pretty.

I just want to thank those that supported the other side of the story before hearing it and not just what this person had written.

Have a bloody top day.

Regards,

Munsta1975

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    • whatgift on 17/03/2022 - 16:19

      It's not 'victim blaming' to expect both parties to take responsibility for their actions, since no situation is black and white. If the buyer takes no responsibility in this case, then they've missed some key learning from this experience that will help them in the future.

  • RADICALIST on 17/03/2022 - 00:39
    +1

    Thanks OP, I enjoyed this rollercoaster of a ride

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 01:03

      "It's been emotional"…..name that movie

  • obitor on 17/03/2022 - 07:06
    +1

    So did you threaten the seller to get a refund?

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 11:03
      -6

      Nope.

      Saying "We'll see about that!" Is hardly a threat.

      • obitor on 17/03/2022 - 11:53
        +4

        ok, there was just an undercurrent in the post by the seller and some of your posts that indicated to me there was either an explicit or implied threat there. I would interpret "We'll see about that!" if the person knew my address as a threat. I think a few people in the sellers post did too.

        Overall, it was a private sale, it isn't Ebay or a retailer and there isn't any recourse for goods not being as described accurately or fit-for-purpose. Indeed, if you took it home and it didn't even power-up you have no recourse.
        Regardless, I think the seller has been a bit flowery with the description, but I don't think they have been dishonest. Even the capabilities of the machine I think is aligned to what you asked about using it for.

        You have certainly overpaid, and this is the issue here. But that is just a question of you knowing what you are buying and what you should pay in the market. From the information you provided the seller has sufficiently given you enough information to determine this. Ignorance of the buyer is not on the seller for determining the price.

        The seller has given you a refund which I think was really good of them. They posted in OzBargain to get some guidance, but they had absolutely no requirement to refund to you.
        I think you should stop commenting on their character and actually acknowledge the seller made it right for you in the end.

        • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 12:02
          +2

          I never said I was unhappy with the price. Where did you get that? I thought I was getting a 12 month old system based on what the seller told me when I asked him and I thought that $900 for a 12 month old system was fair.

          I have said that the seller refunded me and it was a good result. As for his character….by him refunding me doesn't make him a good bloke.

          Cheers though.

          • obitor on 17/03/2022 - 12:41
            +1

            @Munsta1975: You are unhappy with the price and the transaction in relation to the age of the components. There hasn't really been anything said if this PC was suitable for your needs. The age of the system and how you will use it are not directly correlated.
            I'm sure I could shop around and find some very very old components and systems still being sold new at retail or suppliers (much greater than 12 months old) this doesn't talk to the suitability of the machine for what I want it to do and technically they would be brand-new.

            Look I don't doubt that you felt a bit ripped off in the transaction after somebody pointed this out to you, but this whole transaction talks to how much a seller should be responsible for the queries of a buyer.
            The component details were clearly listed but you've asked some questions that I'm not sure I could answer as a seller 'can I use for video editing, maybe some games too'. There are so many variables with answering those questions, what kind of video editing? quality etc? which games you will be playing… etc etc.

            There was a misunderstanding and you felt that the age of the machine was the most important factor.
            The seller doing something they don't have to do which financially impacts them talks positively to their character.

            • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 12:50

              @obitor: As it was mentioned on the sellers post by another member…this would fall into financial gain by deception….a basis for fraud was pretty strong going by the sellers replies. I doubt I would have taken it to court but there was that avenue to go down.

              It is interesting you don't find any fault with the sellers tactics other than being a bit flowery. Yet a different story with me for not doing any research and trusting what the seller had told me. That, gives me an idea of your character. Just because a thief gets caught and hands back the stolen property doesn't talk positively to their character at all.

              • obitor on 17/03/2022 - 12:59
                +4

                @Munsta1975: Let me be really clear. You have no legal recourse or buyer protection in a private transaction especially through Facebook Marketplace or Gumtree.
                So the seller has either refunded under duress (threats from you) or because they thought it was the right thing to do. If the latter their character is reasonable in this instance.
                To question my character and others I have seen in these posts just makes you look silly.

                • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 13:06

                  @obitor: So, if a thief gets caught and gives back the property, they are of good character and doing the right thing. You sure have your morals in a twist. I think it is pretty clear to see who is silly here.

                  So show me where I don't have recourse?

                  • obitor on 17/03/2022 - 13:49
                    +4

                    @Munsta1975: If you honestly believe your case is analogous to a thief getting caught, that tells me everything I need to know.
                    My character and morals are fine and so too is my understanding of technology and purchasing items in a private transaction.
                    The only thing I would add is to be very careful about any threatening conduct when negotiating a refund and indeed on questioning peoples character or morals in public forums. As there are certainly legal implications from that.

                    In the end I'm glad it worked out for you.

                  • ankor on 18/03/2022 - 21:40
                    +2

                    @Munsta1975: Ask your brother in law how hard and annoying it is to initiate a recovery of assets in a private sale like the one you've just been a part of.

                    You'll find the amount of time and energy will far outstrip the $1,000.00 sunk into that machine.

                    • Munsta1975 on 18/03/2022 - 21:42

                      @ankor: Its the principle. People have spent thousands fighting a $100 speeding fine, but I am glad it was resolved.

  • cheapaschips on 17/03/2022 - 07:43
    +5

    Who would have thought, but both the seller and buyers sound like douches.

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 11:04
      -1

      And I thought we could be friends. I'm hurt!

    • madrigal on 17/03/2022 - 18:12
      +1

      True, but the seller was a douche to a complete stranger while the buyer was a douche to his family, too lazy to spend a couple of minutes on google to make sure he got something suitable for his daughter.

  • randomusername2017 on 17/03/2022 - 09:06
    +3

    Going by eBay asking prices… buyer
    got a bargain lol

    CPU -300
    Mb - 150-200
    Gfx - 300-400
    Ddr3- 100
    PSU/case 100
    SSD 100
    Build fee priceless
    RGB (-50)

  • DealLover1 on 17/03/2022 - 09:20
    +1

    Jesus!, this beats any soap on TV.

    If the seller listed the specs then it's up to the buyer to research it & make a decision. If that doesn't suit then just go buy new!…for what it's worth a recent Ipad will allow editing of 4k video with ease & they can be had on instalments with your mobile provider.

    Always amazes me when a secondhand sale goes tits up….don't buy something without understand what you need beforehand…i have made that mistake & learned from it

    Hopefully the pain for both parties is ended now??

  • ddhar on 17/03/2022 - 09:38
    +1

    Wow. Seller was definitely non-transparent but buyer (OP) was also hopelessly clueless. This thread is like a car crash scene that has everyone looking on.

    OP, why didn't you consider a pre-built from the likes of Techfast or your local computer shop? $900 is a decent budget, especially when you are "flying blind".

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 11:14
      +2

      I am glad it has been entertaining. Unlike the Seller….I am happy for people to give me a hard time and I don't mind giving it back a bit either, I think is shows what sort of person you are being able to take the shit with the sugar. I don't need to delete my post or comments. The only thing here that I deleted or edited were because it had been in the wrong section of the comments.

      As for Techfast, I hadn't heard about it. With Marketplace and Gumtree I have had only a small number or cases where I wasn't happy with the seller or the product. In this case, the technological advances of computers in the last 20yrs has gotten the best of me. I knew this seller built PC's as he had a couple for sale. I trusted in his experience and expected he would be honest with me, which it turns out he wasn't completely honest.

      All good though. I have a great system and have met some really awesome people through this experience. I actually want to look into building a PC from scratch. Being with the guy who put together my new system has given me a bit of a spark. We'll see where we go from here.

      Have a top day!

      • ddhar on 17/03/2022 - 12:01

        "In this case, the technological advances of computers in the last 20yrs has gotten the best of me."

        Don't worry too much about it. I've been building my own PC since the 2000s and the basic principles are largely unchanged. Find the CPU you want, pick a compatible motherboard, RAM and, where applicable, video card. Plug everything into their respective sockets (very easy with today's well-marked motherboards).

        Food for thought: I recently built my i5 11400F system (DDR4) less than 12 months ago, replacing a then 7-year old i5-4690K system (DDR3), which was struggling with photo-editing under Luminar 4. I'm re-using a Corsair power supply from 2008 and the Ninja Scythe CPU cooler from 2010. Is my system technically current? :)

        • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 12:04
          +2

          If you were asked "Are the components current?" How would you reply?

          • ddhar on 17/03/2022 - 12:21
            +1

            @Munsta1975: In reference to my own system, I would point out that the PSU and HSF are not current but everything else is. I would also point out the old components are working fine (the HSF is just a piece of metal with an attached fan). Then it's up to the buyer to make an informed decision.

          • Aneurism on 18/03/2022 - 20:01

            @Munsta1975: Computer turn on, is current. because I = V/R
            All your base are belong to me.

  • fastnet on 17/03/2022 - 10:43
    +2

    When is Season 2 coming out? can’t wait

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 11:15

      I wonder who will play me in the movie? My girls would love it to be Tom Holland….Jeebus!

    • bdl on 18/03/2022 - 19:34
      +1

      It was filmed 12 months ago. :P

      • Munsta1975 on 18/03/2022 - 20:02

        Is it the current release of that movie? Lol

  • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2022 - 11:06

    To be honest I was looking at used laptops, and for the prices most people wanted…if you're on OzBargain and wait for a good deal you basically be spending the same amount

    Somewhat cheaper, but had outdated graphic cards.

    Buying used items with a whole host of risks, especially if the item isn't under warranty.

    Over the years you learn, and even these days I try and buy brand new because I don't believe the saving is worth the risk anymore.

    If you manage to score something at a great deal, then you're losing less anyways.

    Saying that, literally none of my friends or anyone I know uses OzBargain and I've put a few people onto it.

    People arent as savvy as us OzBargain members.

    • BartholemewH on 17/03/2022 - 16:27

      I buy refurbished Lenovo's from Grays. Have bought 3 including my own so far and everyone has been happy.

  • PurchaseAnxiety on 17/03/2022 - 12:36
    +1

    Always nice seeing both sides of the story.

    As per usual, sounds like there were faults on both sides. Seller was obviously being selective with their language to imply that the PC had newer components. Though a few minutes of Googling by the buyer would've been enough to avoid the whole situation, which should be the minimum for buying any high value item 2nd hand. Oh well, life goes on.

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 12:38
      +1

      It sure does. Life is all about experiences….good and bad. Just don't let your moral compass become compromised because you don't want a sale to fall through.

  • Rillanon on 17/03/2022 - 13:03
    +4

    This thread is a reminder to why I never sell PC or car parts to noobs.
    The fact that people are still arguing about over definitions of what's "current" and what's not… seriously man, you are on this site, DYOR

    The seller did try to pull a fast one on you though.

    I bet you go to stores and buy shit that look shiny lmao

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 13:08
      +1

      Hahahaha, I wasn't on this site until I was told about the sellers post and who doesn't like shiny things?

      • Rillanon on 17/03/2022 - 13:27
        +1

        maybe you will stay around and become a smart shopper!

        • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 13:36
          +2

          Yeah, I think I will stay a while. I have enjoyed this thread…getting other peoples perspectives and opinions. We all make a judgement on the name in the corner based solely on what is written on the screen here. There are those that see what the seller did was wrong, those that see what I did was wrong, those that see what both the seller and I did was wrong ,and those that don't see any wrong from both corners. That is what makes the world we live in the way it is. It is made up of all sorts of characters…I'm not naive to the goings on in the world. I'm a few years from 50 and I know that this won't be the last time I get burned….although I will do a little more due diligence in the future.

          Have a great day

    • AustriaBargain on 18/03/2022 - 19:31
      +1

      We all buy the shit that looks shiny, that's why everything needs to be RGB today otherwise it won't sell. It's why gaming PCs have windows on them despite windows not affecting performance in a positive way at all.

  • huggsymersh on 17/03/2022 - 13:36
    +1

    Glad it worked out for you OP.

    I hope the seller learns something out of this too. That it's less hassle to just be upfront and transparent about selling something, than to ramp up something and be misleading by omission. The PC that he sold is not obsolete by any means, but it's also not worth the $900 he tried to sell it for when budget new builds are $1k and significantly faster.

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 13:39

      Thanks huggy. Hopefully this thread can help others too….It might give an insight that there are more people out there that might engage in this type of behaviour based on their comments than we'd like to think.

      Stay classy!

      • huggsymersh on 17/03/2022 - 13:45
        +3

        I think the OP's original post asking for advice was pretty insightful. The way he was originally seeking clarification about whether what he was doing 'right' in refusing you a refund, so there were doubts in his mind about whether his actions were justifiable. And presumably he was able to avoid/ignore those doubts for a while. We are ALL capable of deceiving ourselves.

        There are plenty of people out there who will do the wrong thing (i.e. be misleading, be deceptive), and have no qualms about it. And double down when challenged. I'm glad that seller did the right thing.

        Anyway, hope you also learn from this as well, and share that knowledge with family and friends. No harm in doing independent research. Buyer beware etc etc.

        • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 13:46
          +1

          Yep, sure have. I appreciate your comment.

  • dojomojo on 17/03/2022 - 14:47
    +4

    This is like someone buying a used car and asking the seller if the car has any problems. Would you take the sellers word on it and just buy it without inspecting? It's alarming that OP seems to still put 100% of the blame on the seller.

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 14:48
      +2

      I put 100% blame on the seller do I? I have mentioned multiple times I should have done some more research instead of trusting the seller. It's alarming you think that is the case.

  • kaleidoscope on 17/03/2022 - 15:03
    +1

    Seller was being slightly deceitful with his response about the age of the pc.

    But it's also your fault OP for not checking the specs correctly. If the seller had mentioned all of the specs you should have first verified if the specifications meet your requirements, or atleast ask hey can I run this and this softwares on it… Its okay to be not so tech savvy, but you can always ask a straight forward question like above.

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 15:06

      Yep, I don't disagree.

  • Oofy Doofy on 17/03/2022 - 16:33
    +7

    This thread is stupid.

    If you don't know what you are doing/buying, best to stick to buying new, at brick and mortar stores, ACL, return policies and warranty on your side etc.

    Shouldn't have been refunded. Let me guess, you didn't even test the machine before leaving the guy's house?

    You got lucky in this case. The $900 was a valuable lesson, all by
    itself.

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 17:06

      You know what they say about assumptions….yep! Just in this case it's you! Hahaha

      • Oofy Doofy on 17/03/2022 - 17:15
        +1

        A guess is not an assumption. I asked as a question.

        This is why you don't know what you are doing.

        • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 17:18

          Fair enough.

          The difference is probably more relevant to you then:

          As verbs the difference between guess and assume is that guess is to reach a partly (or totally) unqualified conclusion while assume is to authenticate by means of belief; to surmise; to suppose to be true, especially without proof.

          • Oofy Doofy on 17/03/2022 - 17:19

            @Munsta1975: *Statement as question

            You replied before I could edit.

            • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 17:22
              +1

              @Oofy Doofy: Hahahahahaha.

              Was it a question you wanted answered or was it a rhetorical question? Do you even know what you were doing? Were you asking a question or taking a guess?

              • Oofy Doofy on 17/03/2022 - 20:40

                @Munsta1975: Just admit to everybody here that you were and are pretty clueless.

                Wasn't really a rhetorical question as I was looking for more information, even though I would thoroughly enjoy being correct. Admittedly I am wasting my time because I doubt anyone would get an honest answer out of you.

                • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 20:52
                  +1

                  @Oofy Doofy: Hahahaha. If you say so.

                • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 20:58
                  +1

                  @Oofy Doofy: I have no problem admitting I was clueless….I trusted the seller to be honest with me when I asked him a question. Not so clueless now though as I had a good catch up with the guy who built my PC.

  • Davo1111 on 17/03/2022 - 17:00
    +2

    I wouldn't buy from either of you.

    If you don't do research, then that's on you.

    I am after a PC that my daughter and I can use for video editing…(maybe some games too…don't tell the missus).

    Ergh, nobody needs your life story. It's your responsibility to decide if a second hand purchase is fit for purpose

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 17:04
      -2

      Hahahaha, ok Tiger!

  • burns13 on 17/03/2022 - 17:08

    There are two sides to this and he was lucky to get a refund in my opinion. But I'm happy he did, it was a ripoff opportunist deal and a misleading ad to the layman.

  • Herbse on 17/03/2022 - 17:15

    I think the morale of the story here is to always ask the seller if the item is currant

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 17:15
      -2

      That is a great idea!

  • Beerforkids on 17/03/2022 - 17:24
    +8

    Honestly the seller sounded like a drop kick from the origional post but they did post the specs and it's on you to do your own research.
    How entitled can you be because you didn't do your due diligance? Your post really highlights how utterly screwed and entitled this country is.

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 17:25
      -4

      Another 0.01%.

      There are a few!

      • rian354252 on 17/03/2022 - 20:38

        I think if there are a few of these type of comments that you don't agree with, they don't really add up to 0.01% hey?

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 17:28
      +1

      Hahahaha. Who are you trying to convince of your honesty?

  • ihfree on 17/03/2022 - 17:53
    +2

    Glad you got things sorted. The seller is definitely dishonest but there's definitely some naivete on your half. Surely, you have a friend who could help you out with the purchase or could do a search for details on the CPU or CPU?

    Sadly, things like i7 are thrown around without generation by sellers to catch out buyers.

    Personally, I don't like selling things to people who are unaware of what they're purchasing. I will either go out of my way to explain things or simply not deal with potential buyers who don't know what they're buying.

    • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 17:59
      +1

      Yeah, I agree with what you are saying. Seeing i7, I did think it was a newer processor…I just wasn't aware that there were so many versions of it and that an i5 gen whatever is a better processor than an i7 gen whatever.

      Someone compared buying this computer to buying an iPhone…I know that an iPhone 10 is newer than an iPhone6. Gatesy and his bloody naming conventions for the CPU's….hahaha. At least Jobsy knew how it to make it fool proof, aye!

      • ihfree on 17/03/2022 - 18:19
        +1

        The terms i3, i5, i7 are a bit meaningless going between generations as newer generations increase core counts eg: for an i5 7th gen 4c4t, 8th is 6c/6t, 10th is 6c/12t and a mix of high/low performance core in the current line up. There are also security issues with older intel processors.

        PCs are hard to compare due to the huge range of options. Throw in an old PC with upgrades and as a buyer it's a nightmare if you don't know tech. Personally, I sell mine off as parts on eBay rather than bothering selling as a package - bit more effort but easier shipping, don't have to deal with people.

        Minor correction re Gatesy - Bill Gates is associated with Microsoft - so think Windows, Office etc. You'd be blaming someone from Intel for the naming scheme which only gets worse as generation increases.

        The enthusiast line up(system you bought) is a bit harder to directly compare as it has a similar core/thread count to a modern system but would be lacking modern platform niceties such as faster USB, USB-C, NVME support, etc.

  • Munsta1975 on 17/03/2022 - 18:29

    I hope to do some book learning on this stuff now.

    Well, if I get the name of the person in charge of naming the processors, I will be wanting to speak to their manager. Hahaha.

    I appreciate your comments. Have a good one.

  • yokel on 17/03/2022 - 19:04

    Hopefully the seller now parts it out and sells the lot for realistic prices. The core of the machine pretty much qualifies as retro. Wouldnt be surprised if it was not efi bios and possibly could boot into DOS etc.

  • foolsgold on 17/03/2022 - 19:51
    +3

    If you clever enough to replace ram, your clever enough to check the specs, or open it up, or run CPU-Z before bringing it home.
    What is current, DDR5 is current not DDR4.

  • chriise on 17/03/2022 - 21:38
    +5

    Alot of people showing some true colours in this post. "Buyer beware", sure.. because of sellers like this! K1w1-Chris seems to be the hero in this story. Glad you got your refund Munsta, and I hope you have some extra karma come your way to make up for the hassle.

    • burns13 on 17/03/2022 - 22:54
      +4

      Some people have no trouble shamelessly ripping off others for their own benefit.

      • leiiv on 17/03/2022 - 23:06
        +2

        And they will go a long way to argue and explain other people that they are innocent and not at "fault", perhaps to convince themselves too that they are doing the right thing..

    • ankor on 17/03/2022 - 23:55
      +3

      What do you mean by 'true colours' exactly?

      Saying buyer beware just means, do your research so you avoid hassles like the OP got himself in.

      The OP was extremely lucky to get any money back at all from the seller and as you can see, it was immensely stressful for the OP to just trust someone blindly. All of this could have been avoided, by doing due diligence in terms of purchasing. 20-40min research by the OP, or even a thread starter on ocau, whirlpool or Reddit would have saved the op this huge headache.

      Buying and selling is all about research and negotiation. If you haven't done it, then you don't know what you are buying, whether what you are looking to buy is suitable for your needs and the fair market value of it.

      You can be cordial and collegiate with people you want to buy from or sell to, but you still have to protect yourself.

      • buckster on 18/03/2022 - 13:57

        Yeah, but that doesn't excuse people from scamming.

        • ankor on 19/03/2022 - 08:08

          its to ensure you get good value for what you are spending and also, to protect you from being scammed.

  • akyeeeahdude on 18/03/2022 - 00:35
    +4

    Can't believe the pile on that 15fps740m is getting. What's next? Selling a car advertised as a 2003 Nissan X-Trail and then getting disappointed after you buy it because you thought it was newer ??? Yes, 15fps740m was selective with the truth (bit of a dick move) but come on - you've got to do some research…

    • leiiv on 18/03/2022 - 03:18
      +2

      Apple and orange.
      Everyone knows that 2003 Nissan X-Trail is from… 2003! surprise!
      Not everyone knows that i7 990x is from 2011.

      Yes we all need to do some research. But come on, let's all don't be a dick..

      • BigBirdy on 18/03/2022 - 09:25
        +1

        2003 X-Trail … originally bought in 2003, manufactured in 2001, compliance 2002, actually a 1999 model. Everyone knows what? And take some insults along the lines of those you made

        • leiiv on 18/03/2022 - 21:52
          +1

          Well exactly. If person A bought it in 2003, then person B bought it from person A in 2005, A must say that it is a 2003 one since otherwise it will be a false advertisement. And B can't say it is a 2005 Nissan X-Trail either when he sells it later. And neither A nor B can replace the major components (engine etc) with the older model, it will be a plain fraud!!
          15fps740m avoided disclosing the year he bought each component and instead saying that it is current and that he built it in 2021. But God knows when each of them were originally bought.

          What I can't understand is, why would anyone defending a "dick move"??

      • smartazz104 on 18/03/2022 - 11:49

        Not everyone knows that i7 990x is from 2011.

        Nothing a cursory Google search wouldn't solve.

    • keejoonc on 18/03/2022 - 09:57
      +2

      The bit I can't accept is when the seller said it was put together 12 months ago. He knew the exact context of the buyer's question and should have been clear about the age of the PC at that point.

    • Aureus on 18/03/2022 - 20:08
      +2

      15fpsloser admitted to lying to not lose the sale. On top of that he lied about other stuff in the thread he posted. Unbelievable that anyone can defend that scammer. OP was naive, but he has admitted as much.

  • Talonparty on 18/03/2022 - 00:51
    -2

    Lol I love this, I actually am running almost exactly the same described setup here, a 6 core Xeon from 2010 on a motherboard from 2009 with a couple of SSD (including 1tb NVME SSD running on PCIE 2.0 slot with an adapter :P) and a 1060 with 6 gb, 18GB of ram in triple channel. I have overclocked it to 4.2 GHz or something though and am running one of those already built watercooling cpu coolers on it though.

    I am playing elden ring at highest settings minus like the grass detail which is at mid at 1080p all just fine.

    I think it was deceitful and wrong to not be clear, like I'm expecting that my hardware will fail at any point given how old it is. I'm just still able to use it to play the like 2k games I've amassed (PLUS VR runs great) so to be honest, it's possible to use one of these today.

  • keejoonc on 18/03/2022 - 09:46

    The seller was clearly delliberately vague, decitful and in the wrong, but you can't deny the OP isn't the sharpest tool in the shed buying something without even knowing exactly what he is getting. No wonder so many people get scammed by ploys that can be seen from a mile away.

  • [Deactivated] on 18/03/2022 - 10:02
    +1

    This is the precise reason I don't buy as much stuff second hand any more. I got fed up with people treating it like it's some sort of game to rip people off by lying and misrepresenting things.

  • DarkAvernus on 18/03/2022 - 10:20

    A good summary of this joke of a thread.

    10 IQ Op gets a refund due to buyer's remorse from his own stupidity and acting aggressively on emotion to a seller when it's the buyer's fault.
    Original op refunds when he didn't have to avoid aggressive confrontation despite questionable selling.

    I actually hope this OP has kara bite him in the ass because he didn't deserve this outcome based on the responses he gives in this thread.
    Marketplace scum that doesn't deserve to be on OzB.

    • buckster on 18/03/2022 - 13:58

      Is that you 15fps740m?

      • DarkAvernus on 18/03/2022 - 22:41

        not even close, these two both deserve each other, both equally scum

        • Munsta1975 on 18/03/2022 - 22:45
          -1

          Someone is grumpy….and for the record…he wasn't my type.

  • djones145 on 18/03/2022 - 10:37

    this has to be a troll

    a seller refunding 900???? where does that happen? in la la land?

    trolls

    • Heaps for Cheaps on 18/03/2022 - 11:57
      -1

      I dont think it is a troll, especially since the original seller had been a long-time member

      • djones145 on 18/03/2022 - 12:28

        just so unbelievable

        someone got a refund on facebook marketplace sale… make a movie out of it please

        news.com.au

        its a miracle!

        • buckster on 18/03/2022 - 13:59

          Get Alan Jones on this!

  • randomusername2017 on 18/03/2022 - 11:36

    Wow.. this one's got more life than a Pam episode…🤔

  • aveeno bb on 18/03/2022 - 11:49
    +2

    1) OP should have done the research. Lucky you got the money back.
    2) The seller deliberately lied about the spec. Giving a refund is the right thing to do.
    3) Most people selling on the FB marketplace, including myself, do the right thing.
    4) Most people I've dealt with buying from the FB marketplace, know what they are buying.

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