Cheapest 3060 Ti in a long time from an Australian retailer (maybe ever?).
Offers ~35% more rasterisation performance at 2160p (4k) than the slightly cheaper 3060 deals.
Edit: Thanks to AJ73, still in stock at Scorptec Ebay for $679.15 using the same coupon - plus lots of other 3060 Ti cards still in stock at a very similar price point in the Scorptec, Computer Alliance, Harris Technology and Futu Online Ebay stores.
100% worth holding for Lovelace and the ETH merge if your current setup is sufficient.
I don’t see how mining will effect the prices when LHR is locked is there something I’m missing?
I think for a while it was still worth it
So the RTX 3050 and 3080 12gb have the super-LHR lock, the other LHR cards have the normal LHR unlock AFAIK.
The normal LHR unlock is 50%, but different mining software can increase this to 75% unlocked. The super-LHR is 45%, but can be increased to ~55% unlocked.
Either way, ETH mining (and dual mining) still remains very much profitable, even on LHR/super-LHR cards. Most (but not all) miners have stopped buying because there's no way for them to recoup the cost of the investment before the ETH merge (presuming it happens later this year). However, mining isn't unprofitable yet and the Great Second Hand gpu sell-off of 2022 is yet to begin.
@iseeyou1312: So how much longer should a HODLR wait to buy… considering I’m still on i5-750 with 1060 3GB, who doesn’t mine? My patience is GAWN!
Ps, thanks for all your very informative posts. I’m insanely off the pulse these days
EDIT: one item will trigger buying a whole new rig.
@Ulysses31: If you're budget is <$1k, then the 5600x, 3060 Ti + cheap B550 Afterpay Ebay deals are going to be pretty hard to beat for the foreseeable future. Plus Ebay deals without price jacking are quite rare nowadays and you're basically waiting for Afterpay/Zip to sponsor one, who look to be heading towards insolvency lol (check out the zip stock price since February, APT was sold and is tethered to the company that purchased it). The GPU deals in Aus with the current promotion are way better than the sales happening overseas, which seems to suggest we're close to the pricing bottom, at least for a while. It's possible they'll be even bigger Ampere clearance sales in the future, but it's really hard to predict what's going to happen with prices fluctuating so much.
Zen 4 is out soon (I think late Q2 or early Q3), but the CPUs, PCIe 5.0 motherboards and DDR5 RAM are all going to be really expensive. Lovelace will probably be the biggest generational GPU upgrade ever, but the high end will release in September (and it won't be cheap, especially if mining is still around), with RDNA 3 and the cheaper Lovelace cards probably not released until 2023.
So if you're desperate for an upgrade and can afford it, and don't want to be waiting for possibly another year for good value, I think I'd just go for it now honestly. You've HODLed long enough to whether the GPU pricing crisis, and now your watch has ended :)
@iseeyou1312: Really appreciate your effort, thanks.
For better or worse, I’m a one & done buyer. Buy the absolute edge of B4B and sit on it for 10 years, and so my budget is ‘whatever’ achieves that. I don’t upgrade, and don’t have remorse. It was ultimate on that day.
I have noticed my GPU spend has doubled the last 2 purchases. Never thought I’d pay $700 for one in my lifetime. But 10yrs of “therapy” (escapism) is worth it.
@Ulysses31: I would build a whole new system but keep your existing GPU for the time being to see where the dust settles,
@Rod M: I'm not entirely sure what you mean, are you saying do a new build but keep the 1060? If you have a little more patience that's probably the best thing to do.
Recapping:
Zen 4 (new AMD 7000 CPUs) are out in another 3-4 months and look like a big uplift over Zen 3 (Ryzen 5000), but they're gonna be like $450 for 6C/12T CPU, $300+ for the new AM5 mobos and $300+ for 16GB of DDR5 DRAM.
In the Ebay Afterpay sale, currently the 5600x 6C/12T is $288, cheap B550s are as little as $80 and 16GB 3200 MHz DDR4 DRAM is ~$90. PSU/SSD prices are quite good at the moment as well, but you might recycle them? Anyway, now seems like quite a good time for a new system build, plus shopback giftcards can take another 3% off (can't fully pay for the item with giftcards or else you won't be able to use APT to check out).
GPU prices are tougher to predict, this might be the best price we get for a while, or we might see sales on the 3060 Ti $50-100 cheaper over the next few months. Ampere clearance sales before Lovelace will likely be cheaper, but that won't be until September. And then if you wait that long you might as well go for an RTX 4000 (Lovelace) GPU.
@iseeyou1312: Thanks again to all above. The advice seems SPOT ON for where I’m at. The patience is gone, the value is here. And it’s going to be an insane leap from what I’m on.
Might as well just buy at a decent price (Not saying this deal is it). Lovelace could be supply constrained or RRP inflated for all we know.
Requires using Afterpay at checkout. Can use Ebay giftcards such as those from shopback to reduce the checkout amount if it exceeds your Afterpay spending limit (or you just want that 3% discount).
You can't use giftcards on the full $670.65 amount or else the Afterpay checkout option won't be available. To the best of my knowledge something like $670 worth of giftcards should work though.
Just did this today. Split payment with gift card then Afterpay the balance. Got the full 15% off the whole price.
I should point out that the "brushed-finished backplate" is plastic, not metal.
How does this compare to 2080 super?
Around ~5% faster. It would be hard to tell the two apart if you didn't know which card was in your system.
https://i.redd.it/hly9gyg9gjh81.png
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-t…
Only other consideration would be that this uses less power. Being a dual fan it may be louder though.
Thank you, so tempted with this one. Would it be good with a Ryzen 2600?
That's a bit like asking how long is a piece of string. It depends on the resolution and targeted refresh rate.
Generally I would say for 1440p/2160p it won't matter all that much, for 1080p you might want to look at a 5600x upgrade. Here's a video looking at the generational differences for more info (the 3070 is a good proxy for the 3060 Ti).
The 5600 is releasing this month (with a $200 USD MSRP), but I can't imagine it being all that much cheaper than the current 5600x Afterpay deals.
Edit: Also, if you are thinking of upgrading, there's a lot of 3060 Ti models available close to this price. So you might want one with a bigger cooler/more fans for less noise, or you find more aesthetically pleasing. Although a dual fan cooler should be more than sufficient for the 3060 Tis 200 watt TDP.
How much %performance improvement from a RTX2060super ?
Welcome to OzBenchmark!
The 3060 Ti is around 45% faster than the 2060 super.
https://i.redd.it/hly9gyg9gjh81.png
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-t…
Ozbargain probably needs to invest in telegram style bots, e.g.
OzBenchmark bot for computer specs on deal postings
OzCarspecs bot for car forum posts
OzJV bot for randomly snide comments, usually first on a deal
It also needs:
OzMini bot to find out whether or not the listed GPU is a mini version.
OzBuiltWithinTheLast12Months bot to find out whether or not the system is using the most current components.
@iseeyou1312: Ozhumblebragbot to let people know they bought the same thing 3 months ago for 300 hundred dollars cheaper, but it works great.
Wow, I got my 3060ti for 900. Prices are really going down!
Going down, like a cheap…. GPU
This plus the sub-300 5600x and you can build a great gaming rig for a good price
For what it's worth this is near the bottom of the rankings of 50 different AIB 3060Tis in this video: https://youtu.be/9N4_dMHpu1I
Still rather have a bottom ranked Ti than a vanilla 3060 of a better build, but worth keeping in mind if you're shopping amongst the Tis
This or 35 more dollars for gigabyte 3060 ti?
Gigabyte. Better power lines, 3 fans - quieter and more stable.
I think it's arguable in regards to the Gaming OC Pro that the inclusion of a metal backplate, some RGB, triple fans, larger heatsink and higher TDP for overclocking headroom makes paying more definitely justifiable, especially if you have a tempered glass side panel or sit quite close to it (cooler should be quieter). But it really depends on your priorities and budget.
i bought the 3060 ti vision oc. i would of bought this card over the gigabyte. the msi card would cool this a lot better, it’s got two bigger fans compared to the visions 3 tiny ones. even with an undervolt the card still runs very warm.
I got the 3060 ti vision as well without doing much research and it hasn't arrived yet. However, after looking at the pictures more closely, I am worried about what the thermals will be like, but I don't think the fans are the problem. The heatsink is quite thin (card is only 40mm high) and the airflow looks very constricted by the GPU shroud.
The gaming pro has a beefier heatsink (51mm high, slightly longer) and the shroud is a lot more open so the fans don't need to work as hard to move air through the heatsink. Anyway, I guess it's my own fault for buying shitabyte and expecting them to get the absolute basics right.
the vision is definitely the budget cooler in the lineup, no wonder they are so cheap! i upgraded from my 1070 ti msi gaming x and i was very happy with the cooling performance of that. if i can be assed i’ll suss a thermal paste swap and go from there.
@Neis: That's funny because the vision oc is premium compared to the Eagle! Smaller heatsink, worse heatpipe configuration and only 4 instead of 5, even less breathing space, no 6 pin and a plastic backplate.
I guess things could be worse, we could have one of them lol…
@iseeyou1312: Good insight! For when you get your vision card these are my undervolt settings:
931mv, 1935MHz, +800 Mem clock. I hover around 74-75c with fan speeds at around 55-60% (custom fan curve). A drop in about 40W of power usage which I have settled on for now.
Can I put this in my shitbox Dell Optiplex 9020 that I just bought?
It's a difficult upgrade if you don't know what you're doing. You'll likely need to leave the case open so that the GPU gets enough airflow (or can fit), an external PSU to power the GPU (I'd recommend a PSU with 1x 8pin and 1x 6pin PCIe connectors so the GPU can draw all it's power through the PSU, whereas a 1x 8pin with a 200 watt BIOS like this card will need to draw 50 watts through the motherboard PCIe slot), and there's probably going to be a CPU bottleneck that'll diminish overall FPS depending on your targeted refresh rate depending on the game and refresh rate (may not be an issue), but it's definitely possible.
It might be worth looking at some Youtube guides to learn more before deciding to commit to the modification.
I wouldn't recommend it though. I tried upgrading a Dell once (not even an Optiplex) and it just wasn't worth it with all the proprietary connectors and terrible case airflow. Ended up salvaging the CPU, turned the rest into E-waste and built a new system.
Right now with the APT deals you can get a 5600x and cheap b550 for ~$370 (+ giftcard cashback), so that plus the 3060 Ti deal is a solid basis for a really good system.
Thanks for the detailed reply, very useful! I’m looking at other options :)
Looks like for both price & performance wise, 3060Ti definitely is the super sweet spot
Power usage isnt that great.. these 3060ti's can use up to 400w of system power total… often more power then a 3070 stock
wheres a 6600XT PC thats only 15% slower uses 250W total system power. 75% less power
How is 250W 75% less tnan 400W?
This card is not using 400W, more like half of that.
I said total system power… MAX.. the card may use only 200-220w VS the 6600's 160w but maxed out its pushing a gaming PC's total system to power draw to 428w… according to hardware unboxed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tDYu5sBtFs&t=1118s
I've seen a few other reviews that have it maxing total system power more then a 3070 ( better binned chips maybe? ?
@vid_ghost: Then a 6600XT system would not be 250W, it does not use 150W less than a 3060ti. Your maths or logic is wrong if you think it uses 75% less power.
@potm: A youtube review of this exact card has it at 170w-195w using the stock bios… and flashing it to the MSI gaming X bios bumped up the power usage to 196-210
@vid_ghost: Nobody is disagreeing with how much power a 3060TI uses.
Explain how you do your maths to believe that a 6600XT uses 75% power to reduce the total system draw from 400W to 250W.
@potm: https://percentagecalculator.net/
250 is what percent of 400 = 47.5% .. yes i was wrong.. my math was off
@vid_ghost: 3060ti = about 210W
6600XT = about 160W
160/210*100 = 76.19%
The 6600XT uses about 24% less power than a 3060TI.
@potm: was using hardware unboxed total system power draw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tDYu5sBtFs&t=1118s
@vid_ghost: So the total system power consumption shown in that video total is 322W for the 6600XT and 428W for the 3060TI.
322/428= 75.23%.
25% less power for the 6600XT.
@vid_ghost: what the hell are you talking about
a better comparison would be the 6700xt which uses 220w, has very similar performance and costs $100 more
This particular 3060 Ti has a 200 watt TDP. It can draw up to 225 watts if you flash the bios to the gaming X (75 watts through the mobo and 150 watts through the 8 pin connector), whereas other 3060 Tis have a 240 watt bios overclock with enough PCIe connectors to draw that much.
However, that is an optional overclock for another ~5% performance. The cards work just fine without it.
At stock settings, the 3060 Ti is drawing 25% more power for 33% more performance at 2160p, and absolutely demolishes the 6600 XT when it comes to ray tracing, so it's arguably more power efficient.
If you had to waste your money on one would it be this or 3070?
I would get the 3060ti as its only a little slower but priced $200 less
The cheapest 3070 I can see is ~$850, so definitely not worth it. The ~$935 3070 Tis are a more worthwhile upgrade, but this is better value (~12% cheaper on a $ per fps basis). Plus all three cards have the same amount of VRAM, with the 3070 Ti having slightly more bandwidth.
It also looks like Lovelace is coming to make Ampere rather obsolete before too long, so the less you spend now the less there is to depreciate in the future. So I think the 3060 Ti is the best deal, being both the cheapest and best value.
So sick of the 6600xt architecture. Purchased one about 4 months ago and its been a big regret. Gonna sell it now that I've bought this beauty.
Whats the issue with RDNA2 ?… its inside the PS5 and Xbox series X so ported games will be more optimized for future titles I've had no problems with my 6600XT apart from Guildwars 2 not running as well on AMD because its optimized for Nvidia DX11 path and not at all for AMD
Inconsistent periods of framerate drop on multiple games, most notably csgo.
In addition to this, the "alt+r" menu works occasionally at best.
Curious what you didn't like about the 6600 XT other than being a fair bit slower, as I nearly stopped HODLing to pick one up as well.
Inconsistent periods of framerate drop on multiple games, most notably csgo.
In addition to this, the "alt+r" menu works occasionally at best.
OOS.
Scorptec eBay store still has in stock, just slightly higher price at $679.15 using the same code
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/265573508069?epid=10048956795&ha…
this is msrp after 2 years
That is basically MSRP/RRP here in Australia, that's impressive considering how horrible things have been.
Gamers have been price gouged for 14 months and crumble the moment they drop to 15% over msrp it's absolutely pathetic. Another couple weeks and they probably would've been msrp
You have a crystal ball do you? So in 2 weeks you're saying GPUs will be at MSRP which would be 40% reduction?
You're dreaming.
Australian MSRP was $688. This deal was potentially ~$650 using giftcards, so it was actually about 5.5% under MSRP.
It's still rather overpriced. The below deal was over a year ago. I understand the crypto factor but I'd expect cheaper deals than the current prices in the future msrp aside. Prices still have further to go it should be around $550-650 during this point in it's lifetime. The 2070s (same msrp as 3070) sold for $559 near the end of it's gen.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/593800
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/572620
It's hard to predict looking backwards because component prices were a lot cheaper back then. Also, there's still enough time to mine ~$500 worth of ETH (less energy prices) at current prices before the merge, which looks like it's going to be delayed a few months.
At the same time, once miners start selling and flood the market, there's no telling how much retailers will have to discount by to clear stock. I agree that this isn't the bottom, but at the same time, if it gets to say <$500 in August, why not just wait for Lovelace?
You are delusional, that was furnished via Amazon US which has nothing to do with AU pricing. How will they honor warranty, at your expense for shipping?
Can you also tell me how another country's market has anything to do with Australian pricing?
This was such a dope deal
It's not a bad deal but a better model 3060ti was $631 16 months ago. This is almost obsolete now and $40 more
NVM - answered in a reply you made above.
![[Afterpay] MSI RTX 3060 Ti 8GB VENTUS 2X OC V1 LHR Graphics Card $670.65 Delivered @ Computer Alliance eBay](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/25/689425.jpg?h=02aa3f9b)
hard to resist
but I must