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Silicon Power US70 1TB M.2 NVMe PCIe Gen4 SSD $119 + Delivery @ PLE

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Silicon Power US70 1TB M.2 NVMe PCIe Gen4 SSD $119 + Delivery @ PLE
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downforce on 01/04/2022 - 12:46 ple.com.au (1289 clicks)
Last edited 01/04/2022 - 14:13 by 1 other user

Was looking for other deals after seeing https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/692049 pop up.

And this came up on PLE. Seems like a much better option for less $ and Gen 4?

Read some reviews and it's not quite as good as the Sabrent Rocket 4 but not far off it seems and for about half the price now!

Silicon Power product link: https://www.silicon-power.com/web/product-US70

Features
  • PCIe Gen 4x4 interface with read speeds up to 5,000MB/s and write speeds up to 4,400MB/s
  • NVMe 1.3 support allows for higher performance, lower latency, and lower power consumption
  • Features wear leveling to equalize the wear of each NAND flash block, ensuring longer reliability and stability of the SSD
  • Built-in bad block management (BBM) mechanism detects and marks bad blocks in the NAND flash to avoid storage in those blocks and eliminate access errors
  • Includes over-provision (OP), which increases the SSD's reserved space to improve performance and durability as well as to reduce NAND flash wear, therefore extending the lifespan of hard drives
  • Supports SLC Caching and DRAM Cache Buffer to improve sequential read/write and random read/write performance
  • Built-in E2E data protection for enhanced data transfer integrity
  • Engineered with low density parity check (LDPC) coding to ensure accuracy of data transmission and reliability of data access
  • Supports TRIM commands, enabling the SSD to efficiently manage reusable space as well as significantly reduce hard drive wear out
  • Features our proprietary S.M.A.R.T. software for operational monitoring at any time
  • Small form factor M.2 2280 (80mm) allows for easy installation in small form factor PC systems
Specs
Spec Spec
Capacity 1TB
Dimensions 22.0mm x 80.0mm x 3.5mm
Weight 8g
Interface PCIe Gen 4x4
Performance Read(max.) up to 5,000 MB/s
Performance Write(max.) up to 4,400 MB/s
System Requirement Computer with M.2 slots supporting PCIe interface and one of the following operating systems: Windows 8.1 or Windows 10
Operating Temperature 0°C - 70°C
MTBF (est) 1,700,000 hours
Shock Resistance Test 1500G/0.5ms
Certification CE, FCC, BSMI, Green dot, WEEE, RoHS, KCC
Warranty 5 years
Note Performance read/write varies by system performance (such as hardware, software, and interface mode) and capacity
Computing 1TB Computer Component M.2 PCIe NVMe Silicon Power SSD

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  • wetwork on 01/04/2022 - 12:51

    Looks like $0 delivery to Sydney metro using the cheapest option.
    So tempted.

  • Wayne7497 on 01/04/2022 - 12:54

    Yep thought give it a go ordered 1 last night

  • shaybisc on 01/04/2022 - 12:57
    +2

    I hate it when you can't see the postage cost up front.

    • downforce on 01/04/2022 - 13:53
      +1

      If you have a Local Store set, it shows you pick up stock.

      If at the top-right you click on the store name and change it to "Australia Wide Delivery" it'll show you postage options.

  • blues99 on 01/04/2022 - 13:02
    +1

    Thanks OP bought, free post to Melbourne too.

  • Jonc on 01/04/2022 - 13:11
    +9

    I'm not sure what Silicon Power is like nowadays but a few years ago I purchased around 6 of their SSD drives (256GB and 512GB) drive and half of them failed I think I now only have 2 of them working still the other 4 failed although they are probably around 4 years old now but still I've not had a single Samsung SSD drive fail on me to date and some of those are over 6+ years old now… so I do think Samsung has far better quality and reliability from my experience compared to Silicon Power…

    Just my 2 cents worth on this (If you get them strongly suggest you keep your backups upto date!)

    • scrimshaw on 01/04/2022 - 15:10

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/10011949/redir

      similar to this?

      • Jonc on 01/04/2022 - 15:26

        Yup looks like I'm not the only one… good find… I will personally never buy this brand again but pay a little extra for something I know works very well (Samsung has been fantastic, I would have purchased over 20x Samsung SSD's now and not had a single fail over the years so I trust them with my data nowadays…

        • netsurfer on 01/04/2022 - 16:44

          One of my Samsung SSDs died within a year. Another one that died used Samsung NAND. Sandisk / WD SSDs, well, one of mine has reallocated sectors for years now.

          Samsung RMA is good though, got a new SSD (newer model with 2X the storage) as a replacement.

          • Jonc on 01/04/2022 - 17:31

            @netsurfer: I do understand with any brand you will always get faults but as I got more than 50% failure rates with SI I now avoid them completely… I've personally had a 0% failure rate on Samsung so I'm sure it must be below 1% as even friends and family have not had one die yet so I think they have very good reliability :-) Hope you have better luck with the new SSD you have…

            • netsurfer on 01/04/2022 - 17:51

              @Jonc: It is better to include both brand and model. That said, there are people who have reported having mixed experience with this.

              Also, SSDs are not as great as people think. Regular backup is required. One overseas relative has an Samsung 830 Pro SSD. Broken for 2 years now and due to Covid, I have not had a chance to visit and check it out (relative not tech savvy enough to open a laptop to take it out). It just died all of the sudden (hardly used to be honest). It is partially an early adopter issue. The SSD I had issue was Samsung 840, Samsung's first planar TLC SSD. At that time, MLC was the norm.

              • Jonc on 01/04/2022 - 22:05

                @netsurfer: Trust me I get it I've used SSDs for many years (even very expensive 8gb versions back in the day become it out but it's still working but read crazy expensive back then) I still think these cheaper SSDs are much more unreliable and I no longer purchase them any longer… Been burnt time after time after time with them .. good luck if you get it and hope they have improved but damaged done for me with this brand…

                • netsurfer on 01/04/2022 - 22:45

                  @Jonc: Telling people to rely on brands is not a good idea. I am not saying go for cheap brands. In fact, I have more Samsung SSDs than other SSDs. However, think about it, with so many more Samsung SSDs, it is unrealistic, mathematically, to count on Samsung SSDs will fail less. I am saying look at the actual models.

                  It is more important to point out the facts:

                  • If you got lesser known brand because of the price, then you need to know which components are inferior.
                  • SSDs as cold storage have higher risk of failing (using an SSD every day is better than using an SSD once in 3-4 months).
                  • Know that there are now NAND swaps on even Samsung and WD SSD models (SN550 and 970 Evo Plus). Also, we know Kingston has also done some swaps.
                  • Do your research on the SSD model.
                  • Sudden death is quite common for any SSD. Important data, always backup.
                  • Firmware updates are important for SSDs (so that could be one reason you are better off to go with one of the big ones, but then again, the way Samsung treated 840 owners means it still depends on the models).

                  I have given you an example, Samsung 840. After the infamous old data read slow down, I know 840 was a ticking time bomb. The way Samsung handles it was quite bad. Also, Samsung first gen tech tends to have higher failure rate (840, 950 Pro). It is to be expected as it was/is a newer technology. If you love Samsung so much, how about you buy my Samsung 840 Evo?

                  • Jonc on 02/04/2022 - 02:56

                    @netsurfer: Just because you sell more SSDs does not mean your product is less reliable if you have a 'total' that is higher failure rates are a percentage that's why I said I personally had over a 50% failure rate with my SI drives in the past (3 of the 6 failed within 6 months then within a year had another fail!). Thats not a good state and should not be an acceptable number for any brand..

                    Looking at Amazon reviews and some other Ozbargin comments seems others have reported similar issues…

                    All I'm saying is Samsungs failure rates are very low! Some sites are reporting 0% failures on some models other models 0.1% which is very good with over 1,000 SSD sales… Thats great and essentially lines up with my experience as well.. so I'm not a fanboy of Samsung but a fanboy of reliable products of which Samsung happens to be.. I've also been happy with my Crucial but it's slower and not as 'nice' but the price was cheaper so they have been good 'value' I've found…

                    All I'm saying is any brand that gives me over 50% failure rates I do not support. I understand brands can improve and different models have different failure rates..etc.. however, that product should not have gotten to the market being so bad so I don't trust the company is what I'm saying!

                    Regarding buying your secondhand older SSD drive from you… Ummm, No thanks! Why would I do that? I already have 4x Samsung SSDs and 1x Crucial in my main PC system with a few HDDs "s as well.. I also backup to NAS systems and external HDDs so I'm good for storage… Lastly, I'm using 4TB SSD's in my system and I doubt your 840 Evo would be this size as I think I have a few of the 840's sitting in my dra but they are older 1TB SSDs I used in the past so not sure why I would want to buy your very old and worn out 840 as I suspect it will be getting close to the end of life very soon I changed my 840's out years ago already…

  • digitalaxon on 01/04/2022 - 13:15

    Looks like an affordable version of the firecuda 520..

    Excellent durability / TBW for the price… This will go well in my nuc proxmox server that currently only has a 512Gb firecuda 510 and running out of space

  • brenwildman on 01/04/2022 - 13:21

    Thanks OP!

  • happychappy1 on 01/04/2022 - 13:21
    +4

    I'd rather pay a bit more for a Samsung or WD ssd, knowing they have solid components and warranty. Data is too valuable to bother.

    • brenwildman on 01/04/2022 - 13:25

      Put your valuable data on a raid1 HDD, not an ssd.

      • lano on 01/04/2022 - 14:21

        https://www.raidisnotabackup.com/

        • getho on 01/04/2022 - 14:39

          But any sort of redundancy is better than none. Anyone with half a brain knows that ;)

          • Jonc on 01/04/2022 - 15:31

            @getho: Partially agree there but the reply is correct RAID is NOT a backup by any means only increases your data resilience in limited situations…

            Backups are very important and everyone should do this unless the data is of no value to you… I find so many people don't backup untill it's too late and they learn the hard way which is such a shame as often people lose data that is not possible to get back (Eg, Family Photo's, Video's, Crypto..etc)

            I personally save all my data on SSD's, have a backup on a NAS at home, 2 other copies on removable rotating HDD's (one kept offsite or on me at all times) and another NAS backup over a WAN connection allowing protection from flood, fire, theft, ransomware, bitrot..etc..

            P.S. Also be careful with just 'replication/sync' as this is also often not a 'backup' either as it can simply 'copy' bitrot and also replicate ransomware..etc..

        • brenwildman on 01/04/2022 - 20:28

          The commenter was referring specifically to ssd hardware failure, which raid1 will protect against. Backup is an important but seperate issue.

  • brosk1s on 01/04/2022 - 13:26
    +1

    It really does look like a budget Firecuda 520 with the same R/W speeds & 1800TBW endurance

    Shame there isn't a 2TB version on sale, would have cancelled my Firecuda 520 order for that

    Edit: looks like it does use the same Phison E16 controller and 96 layer TLC flash as the Firecuda 520, but the Firecuda uses Toshiba sourced flash while this one is from BiSC4

    • netsurfer on 01/04/2022 - 13:45
      +2

      Same company, just the OEM one for the NAND flash.

      E16, you have that usual, it is not well optimised and also the NAND flash used are often worse than flagship gen 3 (970 Evo Plus and SE 750) in sustained write after SLC cache is exhausted.

      However, probably still a new record for a PS5 "workable" SSD.

      • brosk1s on 01/04/2022 - 16:04

        NAND flash used are often worse than flagship gen 3 (970 Evo Plus and SE 750) in sustained write after SLC cache is exhausted.

        I had a look around and damn you're right, the sustained write speed is brutal compared to gen 3 flagships. In an Anandtech article on sustained write speeds to fill the drive, the FireCuda 520 1TB managed barely better than SATA 3 at 726MB/s while the 970 Evo Plus 1TB achieved more than double the write speed at 1,671MB/s.

        Looks like I'll be ordering a 970 Evo Plus 2TB and returning the FireCuda 2TB when it gets here, $66 cheaper for a 970 Evo Plus too.

        • netsurfer on 01/04/2022 - 16:13

          Not exactly, as there is now another twist.

          970 Evo Plus range has changed. Samsung changed the controller (to a newer, better one), BUT the TLC NAND, after SLC cache is exhausted, is dropped ~50%. From most tests, due to the big increase (compared to the previous, older batch of 970 Evo Plus) of the SLC cache dynamic turbo write, the new batch is faster in most aspects except in sustained writes under some conditions. You need to be able to manage to exhaust that cache (and the slow down needs to last enough to completely negate the SLC advantage).

          https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/samsung-seemingly-ca…

          No need to play the video or understand Chinese, just look at the thumbnail. 1500MB/s -> 800MB/s.

          If FireCuda 2TB can sustain at 726MB/s, then I wouldn't worry about 100MB/s, especially if you have PCIe gen 4 slot. This one, the gap is larger.

  • TommyGun on 01/04/2022 - 13:32
    +1

    Compatible with ps5

    • dickiee on 01/04/2022 - 14:50
      +1

      Yes it's compatible. Not sure if that was a question or a statement.

    • congo on 01/04/2022 - 15:10
      +1

      For PS5 you prob want a faster one ?
      And need a heatsink ?

  • iDrownFish on 01/04/2022 - 14:02

    would this be good as main drive? not familiar with all the QLC and DRAM stuff lol

    • digitalaxon on 01/04/2022 - 14:10
      +5

      In order of crappiest to best QLC, TLC, MLC, SLC

      By crappiest we would define it as lifespan (read/erase cycles) and speed/performance

      This NVME is TLC which is what most decent ones are… Enterprise/Industrial use MLC/SLC which is much more expensive

      TLC durability has gotten to be a pretty good level, QLC not so much yet

      DRAM is where there is a ram chip on the nvme to help with house keeping and maintaining the flash translation layer… Cheaper NVME's without DRAM can use the computer host ram, or probably actual flash storage itself the last time I looked into it ….. DRAM essentially means the drive will run faster than cheaper dramless ones.

      • iDrownFish on 01/04/2022 - 14:12

        thanks legend, ordered one :)

      • iDrownFish on 01/04/2022 - 14:31

        wait where did you see that this is TLC?
        their website says SLC i think

    • netsurfer on 01/04/2022 - 16:07
      +1

      Depends on your situation, most of the time, if you can stay within the SLC cache accelerated portion, then it is quite pleasant. The TLC NAND flash isn't the best to be honest.

      Anyway, there is a reason that it is at this price. If you won't be copying large files a lot (which most people generally don't), it is cost effective.

  • GPreet on 01/04/2022 - 14:06

    Free delivery to Hobart too. Ordered one, thanks op!

  • jtb on 01/04/2022 - 14:27

    Does anyone here with real world experience with this SSD know what the cache is and what the write speed drops down to when it's exhausted?

    • digitalaxon on 01/04/2022 - 14:40

      https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/silicon-power-us70-m-2-…

      Unlike some SSDs that leverage static or hybrid cache architectures, Silicon Power’s US70 comes with a large dynamic SLC write cache that spans one-third of the device’s available capacity. Silicon Power’s US70 quickly and predictably flushes its cache to enable consistent performance not only days after your last workload but also within only minutes.

      • jtb on 01/04/2022 - 15:45

        Thanks. I did see that and it looks like it drops to around 500MB/s once the cache is exhausted. Just wanted to get the input from others in case it was different from the review.

        • digitalaxon on 01/04/2022 - 15:48

          valid point… I guess in a few days a few people on here will be able to relate real-world experience (but by that time the deal will be expired unless its extended)

  • Falcon5856 on 01/04/2022 - 14:33

    Free delivery or click and collect in Perth WA, cheers bought one

  • theguyrules on 01/04/2022 - 14:41

    Any recommended enclosures that aren't too exxy?

  • Exprise on 01/04/2022 - 14:58

    Thanks OP, I ordered one!

    Note the sales member told me I will need a heat sink with this as it's a Gen 4.
    Is that just them being pushy or do you actually need one?

    Cheers,
    -Tom

  • ozbargoUser on 01/04/2022 - 14:59

    At this price, I couldn't help myself but buy one. Thanks

  • getho on 01/04/2022 - 14:59

    Is it Out of stock. Hard to tell

  • bonbon on 01/04/2022 - 15:00
    +1

    How to check if your laptop support gen3 or gen4 nvm pcie ?

    • shabaka on 01/04/2022 - 16:54

      have to check the specs. it's up to the manufacturer to decide.

      my laptop for example has 2 NVMe slots, one of them is Gen4, the second is Gen3. I am sure technically it was possible to have them both Gen4, but that's how they chose to do it.

  • MakkhiChoos on 01/04/2022 - 15:07

    Anyone know a cheap and good enough enclosure for this pls?
    Thanks

  • lawyerz on 01/04/2022 - 15:09

    hit and miss quality. First one i bought died in a few months and RMA-ed it, second one still going strong

  • Richy on 01/04/2022 - 15:11

    Thanks OP. Has anyone used this with or without a heatsink on a PS5?

    • dickiee on 01/04/2022 - 16:03
      +1

      There is a YouTube video which compares it and seems fine. Amazon reviews seem to back it up as well

  • max-pc1010 on 01/04/2022 - 15:38

    Hmmm was almost going to buy it but I stopped there after I was some reviews saying that their unit died after like 3 months. Mmmmm wondering if that is really can happen with any unit

    • netsurfer on 01/04/2022 - 16:29

      Happened to one of my infamous OCZ SSDs. It was so bad, the retailer advised me to get a full refund (form the SSD maker), rather than a RMA to get a replacement. The return rate for that model was so high, the retailer knew it is better to help the customer get the refund than RMA it.

      One of my Samsung SSDs only lasted 11 months.

  • D-Man on 01/04/2022 - 19:22

    would this nvme ssd be good in a laptop?

    • scud70 on 01/04/2022 - 20:31
      +1

      Yes as long your laptop has the m.2 port for it.

  • Eyepeex on 01/04/2022 - 21:15

    Comes up as $215?

  • GPreet on 05/04/2022 - 19:25

    Anyone has their order dispatched yet?

    • brenwildman on 05/04/2022 - 21:41

      Awaiting Processing

      • GPreet on 05/04/2022 - 23:52

        Same here. I hope the orders won't be cancelled because of no stock.

      • boondocksaint on 06/04/2022 - 10:00

        Was just about to ask, same status for me too

    • downforce on 07/04/2022 - 02:09

      I picked mine up Sat .. does that count? 😂

    • brenwildman on 07/04/2022 - 12:23

      It has now been marked as dispatched for me

      • brenwildman on 08/04/2022 - 20:01

        And now delivered. Happy they fulfilled this.

  • blues99 on 06/04/2022 - 14:18

    My order arrived yesterday thanks OP

    • GPreet on 06/04/2022 - 16:53

      Awesome. May i ask which state you are in?

      • blues99 on 06/04/2022 - 16:58
        +1

        melb, vic

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