Defibtech Lifeline Automatic Defibrillator $1699 Shipped (Save $500, was $2199) @ DDI Safety

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Employeecheapjack on 26/04/2022 - 16:17 ddisafety.com.au (168 clicks)
Last edited 26/04/2022 - 18:00 by 1 other user

Great news! Our supplier Defibtech now has many of their models back in stock after being sold out all year!
To celebrate, we are able to offer $500 off their 7 year battery Lifeline Standard Automatic and Semi-Automatic Packages for the next week.
Why consider this defibrillator? It has a huge 7 year battery standby life. That means it is one of the lowest maintenance defibrillators on the market.
It's also designed to be military grade, so it's a great durable option for public places.

Also, for those of you who have mentioned the Cell-AED defibrillator, read a comparison between it and our models in our latest blog post.
Although the $299 cost of entry seems great, in the long run it is more expensive than other defibrillators, and delivers a considerably lower energy shock.
https://ddisafety.com.au/should-you-actually-buy-a-cell-aed-…

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  Noddy Doldrums on 26/04/2022 - 16:32

  Just be aware that if the patient is flatlining this will not restart the heart.

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    morningcoffeepoop on 26/04/2022 - 16:37

    This model is an automatic defibrillator, so once the pads are attached to the chest, it will automatically detect if the patient has a shockable or non-shockable rhythm. Automatic and semi-automatic defibs are designed to be usable by the general public by simply following the voice instruction.

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    beatsntoons on 26/04/2022 - 16:38

    uhhh… what's it for then?

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      Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 26/04/2022 - 16:42

      +6

      So, when a person has a cardiac arrest it's not like Hollywood. It doesn't go to a flatline, instead, the heart "quivers." The defibrillator shock puts the heart back into a normal rhythm. An additional 20,000 Australian's would survive a sudden cardiac arrest each year if they had defibrillator access within 3-5 minutes.

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        beatsntoons on 26/04/2022 - 17:10

        thank you! What are the symptoms of these "quivers"?

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          Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 26/04/2022 - 17:19

          +2

          @beatsntoons: A person will be unconscious and not breathing. Basically when someone "drops dead" their is a small window where there is still some heart activity (quivering) and they can be shocked to life.

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        maverickjohn on 26/04/2022 - 17:30

        +3

        Technically that's also incorrect.
        Cardiac arrest refers to the hearts inability to pump. This is broken down into two domains. Shockable and Non shockable.
        Shockable Cardiac arrests (CA) - Ventricular fibrillation (What you refer to as a quiver), Ventricular Tachycardia and Torsades de Pointes.
        Non Shockable CA - Pulseless electrical Activity and Asystole.

        Defibrillators only work on the Shockable rhythms.
        As i mentioned in your previous post. For all Cardiac arrests please please please do good CPR practices. If you have this machine in your home or place of work, it's obviously for a reason. Make sure you/your family/your work team have good CPR skills. as the efficacy of successful defibrillation is reduced without good CPR leading up to it.
        Noddy doldrums is correct in this doesn't work on a flatline (Asystole) in those cases the only thing that has a chance to bring a person back is CPR. From there the person will either go to a shockable rhythm in which they can be shocked out of it hopefully (not always successful), come back to life without even being shocked. or remain without a beat and pass away.

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          Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 26/04/2022 - 17:38

          +2

          @maverickjohn: Nice comment thanks @maverickjohn
          Comments like Noddy's are correct but can be hard for the general public to understand and get a clear picture of.

          When I'm not posting defibs I train CPR. Such an important step and never to be minimised in importance.

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      morningcoffeepoop on 26/04/2022 - 16:43

      Unfortunately movies and video games have created the misconception that defibrillators are used for jumpstarting a heart that has stopped beating. But it's actually used to override fatally abnormal heart rhythms (mainly ventricular fibrillations and tachycardia) in hope of restoring a normal rhythm.

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        Diji1 on 26/04/2022 - 16:49

        Defibrillators are used to fix everything except gun and knife wounds.

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      MrKnowItAll on 26/04/2022 - 16:43

      +2

      I've watched enough House MD to answer this - this is for fibrilation (the heart is still active, it's just stuck in an abnormal vibration of sorts), a shock usually gets it going in a normal rhymth again so the patient will survive the trip to hospital.

      Flatlining (Asystole) is where the heart is doing nothing at all, this is very much fatal in a vast majority of cases and is rarely something that can be corrected.

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    Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 26/04/2022 - 16:43

    Haha, @noddydoldrums I think this sort of comment will confuse the general public who don't know the difference between vfib and flatline

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      beatsntoons on 26/04/2022 - 17:11

      Hope you're not making that comment looking down your nose at people like that. We all learn somehow, and it's great noddydoldrums shared this info.

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        Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 26/04/2022 - 17:52

        No, definitely not looking down my nose.
        It is very worthwhile information, and it would be good if more people took the time to learn about defibrillators so they can use a public one in an emergency

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  easternculture on 26/04/2022 - 16:41

  Can i use this to play Lightning Reaction Electric Shock Game

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    Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 26/04/2022 - 16:44

    Enjoy Pikachu's electric tailwhip with the Defibtech Lifeline Automatic!

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      easternculture on 26/04/2022 - 17:47

      Defibtech Lifeline Automatic

      Should have been marketed as Pikatech Lifeline automatic

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        Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 26/04/2022 - 17:47

        +1

        Resuscitation I choose you!

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  Lexus101 on 26/04/2022 - 16:53

  +1

  Hi Cheapjack

  Does this device revive a "fully stopped heart" with a shock?

  Or only a "quivering arrested heart" with a shock to stabilize the rhythm?

  Is it fully automatic for a layman to use?

  Thanks for your reply in advance.

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    ChickenDinner123 on 26/04/2022 - 16:59

    +1

    Don't think any Defib can revive a dead heart, can only shock the arrythmia away.

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      Lexus101 on 26/04/2022 - 17:05

      -1

      Thanks for your reply. Cheers.

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  Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 26/04/2022 - 17:03

  +1

  Hi @lexus101

  @noddydoldrums comment caused a bit of confusion.

  No defibrillators revive a "fully stopped heart." They all shock to stabilise a "quivering" heart rhythm. Sadly, statistics are approx 30,000 yearly in Australia dying from out of hospital cardiac arrest. Various life threatening injuries and illnesses can also cause cardiac arrest.

  Both the semi-automatic and automatic models are very easy to use. Anyone can use them, and of course any basic first aid course will provide helpful training and guidance to be as effective as possible.

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    Lexus101 on 26/04/2022 - 17:05

    +1

    Thanks for your reply. Appreciated!

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      ChickenDinner123 on 26/04/2022 - 17:26

      +1

      Would recommend everyone learn CPR tho.

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        Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 26/04/2022 - 17:33

        +1

        Yes definitely, giving CPR immediately and then getting quick defibrillation definitely results in better outcomes

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  Mahogany Granger on 26/04/2022 - 17:11

  Wonder if it will be better than this
  https://cellaed.io/au/products/cellaed-pre-purchase

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    Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 26/04/2022 - 17:13

    Hi @mahoganygranger
    On the description above, I've written a blog post about Cell-Aed. Although it has a cheap cost of entry, because of its short lifespan (13 MTHS) it really adds up over the years and becomes more expensive. It's also delivers a considerably lower powered shock.

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      Mahogany Granger on 26/04/2022 - 17:23

      Would you know the dimensions of your unit please and weight. Thanks for the article

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        Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 26/04/2022 - 17:50

        22 X 30x 7 cm
        2kgs
        Hope that helps. I'll have to add it to the site

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          Mahogany Granger on 26/04/2022 - 20:21

          @cheapjack: Thanks

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  maverickjohn on 26/04/2022 - 17:37

  BTW OP, i followed up on the biphasic 360J that your stryker has and found only articles relating to AED reaching up to 360J and there was no comparison vs a clinician using a 200J machine. Suffice to say the pubmed article as well as American Heart Association are pushing now for the 360J AED's due to the higher success rate of defibrillation.

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    Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 26/04/2022 - 17:44

    Yeah it was a good article. The lifepak cr2 models are at the 360j which is awesome.
    I noticed too in one of their diagrams that the higher joules can reduce the disadvantages of poor pad placement.

    Our other models are around 150-250 joules biphasic.
    It made me want to take note notice of joules and try to convey that to customers. I noticed the cell-aed defibrillators are running at 85 joules biphasic.

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  clandestino on 26/04/2022 - 17:39

  Really interesting and informative comments, and blog.

  The blog does mention this though:

  "The pad’s and batteries in Heartsine and Lifepak Defibrillators have a 4 year shelf life."

  Cheapjack, does your blog post factor in the costs to replace these after 4 years?

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    Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 26/04/2022 - 17:47

    +1

    Yes. In the chart you'll notice the price over 8 years and over 12 years reflects the cost of replacement batteries and pads. A combined battery and pad pack for the Heartsine is $200 per four years.

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  raiseyoursteaks on 26/04/2022 - 18:00

  Going to come in handy with all the KFC and Domino deals

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    Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 26/04/2022 - 18:01

    Chomping into an $8 premium pizza as we speak!

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  SickMyDuck1 on 27/04/2022 - 14:42

  +1

  Can this be used as instant wake up alarm for my wife? She has trouble getting up early

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  GPAK on 27/04/2022 - 16:51

  Curious how old the batteries are in these units? Some online reviews are saying sometimes units are sold with very old batteries?

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    Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 27/04/2022 - 18:14

    +1

    Hi GPAK, these would be very fresh batteries. Stock has only just returned to Australia