Good price for HDMI 2.1 compatible to XBSX and PS5. That's what I want.
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rtings' review for the curious: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/g3223q
Worth noting that some people report notable image retention - but I'm not sure how bad it tends to be in normal use.
Damn thats kinda bad, I guess this is why some people say that you have to take rtings review with a grain of salt nowadays.
I have used this monitor for 2 weeks as daily driver for work and gaming when Im not working. I dont know if I have a good unit or blind to image retention but I dont have this issue.
I think its awesome value for dual purpose monitor. It does work and games really well. Would buy again
Cheers for the anecdote.
As I understand it, LCD image retention really only affects certain usecases — The test site linked on the reddit post, for example, recommends displaying a very contrasty frame for 10 minutes, and then going to grey - which sounds like a worst-case to me.
You should probably be comparing the motion pursuit photography with other 4K 144Hz IPS monitors: it's notably less performative, especially at 120Hz.
You can see very clearly that the text is more smeared and widened as a result, and this becomes more stark at 120Hz.
Pay no attention to the numerical value assigned, the data below the images are especially inaccurate on IPS panels for g2g values that are transitioning back to zero due to an outdated and flawed measurement technique.
@eepykate: The photos are a capture of a camera on a track following an image moving across the screen in a test pattern.
It's a reasonable representation of what your eye would be seeing if you were tracking the object, so if you can see the difference in the still, you're going to experience a difference in use.
Both are a very poor representation of the original object, which you can inspect for yourself in RTings' explainer page for how they measure and assess response times and motion.
Both are a very poor representation of the original object, which you can inspect for yourself in RTings' explainer page for how they measure and assess response times and motion.
Yes.. No need to keep condescending, I know how these tests work…
Fact of the matter is that the response times are simply nowhere near as different as you're making them out to be.
@eepykate: If you did, why are you suggesting that the observable difference means nothing? You're also not the only person reading my response.
Here's the best of OLED (check the BFI image)
And here's arguably the best two 4K 144Hz+ IPS models that RTings have reviewed so far
If you did, why are you asking me then?
Again, I do, and I was only asking for more information relating to your claim because it was a very bold claim - I wasn't asking what a response time graph was, I was asking why are the 2 nearly-identical images so vastly different.
Like, just.. look at the images in the comparison I linked, they simply ain't that different, and it's simply not different enough to be noticeable in real time by a human.
[something something VA TN OLED]
You specifically said, and I quote, "You should probably be comparing the motion pursuit photography with other 4K 144Hz IPS monitors: it's notably less performative"
Other panel types, resolutions, and refresh rates are entirely irrelevant to that. You were also perfectly complicit in the comparison to the M32U and claimed the virtually-non-existent differences to be massive between the two.
Even compared to the VK282K which you claim to be better, the differences in the response time graph are still virtually non existent.
You're also not the only person reading my response.
Arguably makes it worse, because you're coming off as extremely confident while saying incorrect (or at the very least, extremely misleading) statements — people tend to find statements presented like that far easier to believe.
Now, if you want to claim that the motion persuit image rtings uses is misleading, that's a completely different story - but you didn't even hint at that.
@eepykate: As I wrote earlier:
It's a reasonable representation of what your eye would be seeing if you were tracking the object, so if you can see the difference in the still, you're going to experience a difference in use.
and
the data below the images are especially inaccurate on IPS panels for g2g values that are transitioning back to zero due to an outdated and flawed measurement technique.
It's ironic that you're describing me as condescending and misleading when I have already countered the points you've again tried to raise, and you're trying to insult me as you do so. Please take a moment to recompose yourself and re-read what I have written.
It's a reasonable representation of what your eye would be seeing if you were tracking the object, so if you can see the difference in the still, you're going to experience a difference in use.
Something this minor isn't noticeable in use.
the data below the images are especially inaccurate on IPS panels for g2g values that are transitioning back to zero due to an outdated and flawed measurement technique.
The graphs don't give a proper visualization, yes — we're talking about the motion images above the graphs though so this is rather irrelevant.
when I have already countered the points you've again tried to raise
You haven't.
Hopefully the colours won't give it away, but here are some motion images - Which of these is the G3223Q, any why is it so much worse than the others?
Please be honest to yourself and don't just cross-reference the image with the actual review, that's not the point of why I'm asking.
the data below the images are especially inaccurate on IPS panels for g2g values that are transitioning back to zero due to an outdated and flawed measurement technique.
It had just occured to me that I misspoke. I obviously meant to say image not graph — the graph is very visually different, the image ain't.
@eepykate: Two of these images are identical, are the second image of the three is framed further away than the identical ones.
That being said, I would select image #2, as while it has marginally more overshoot, it does present a notably more coherent image. These comparisons are much more marginal, and I assume you are again comparing the Gigabyte.
As for the rest of your argument, I have already answered these: the motion capture pursuit is a very good representation of how your own eyes would track the object. It matters.
The response time summaries you're getting from the tables are inaccurate, particularly the left column for IPS panels. I can't put it any plainer than that.
You're getting louder, but you're just making noise.
Two of these images are identical
ngl, extremely glad you caught that.
That being said, I would select image #2
That is indeed the M32U which was used in the original comparison, where WRT the Dell you said "You can see very clearly that the text is more smeared and widened as a result" (emphasis mine)
it does present a notably more coherent image
It really doesn't though… It's extremely marginal.
A 'notably more coherent image' would be something like any of the 240+hz panels you linked.
the motion capture pursuit is a very good representation of how your own eyes would track the object. It matters.
Cool, I agree there. The differences aren't as big as you're claiming though, which is, and was my whole point.
I didn't at all claim that the motion image was bad, and I have zero idea where you got that impression.
The response time summaries you're getting from the tables are inaccurate, particularly the left column for IPS panels. I can't put it any plainer than that.
Cool, I agree that it's misleading and don't give a visualization. They were never my point, I was always going off the motion images.
I have this monitor….good for work and game. I upgraded to oled…but world certainly recommend this. Also often comes around $849 at EBay Dell store with code
Thanks mate, Just picked one up on the Dell Au page for $849
144 hz refresh for those wondering
The input lag is slightly high for 60Hz.
There is also an issue with the HDR600 profile and Windows HDR
I went through 3 monitors that all had this issue. Eventually just asked Dell for a refund, but the return process was pretty easy.
I found this looking for a 32" 4K display. Planning to upgrade from a 6 year old 34" IPS ultrawide (60hz).
Use case is primarily for work, and weekend gaming (only play CS GO, PUBG and FIFA).
I feel for my use the ultrawide helps for productivity when needed, but in normal use the extra width is wsted.)
Question: between this and the Gigabyte M32U, i feel the KVM function on the gigabyte is a deciding factor.
Wanted to ask opinion on whether quality wise or feature wise is there anything on the dell (not considering after sale support) that would make it a better choice vs the GB?
$700 and I will surely bite…………long way to go yet i think to reach that price