Ryzen 7 5800x for $395.49. No cooler on this model. Seems like a good price.
Update 31st August 2022, 11:19:01 pm
Price increased from $395.49 to $400.10 (AUD / USD exchange rate fluctuation)
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In case anyone has missed it, the 7000 series has been announced and has a release date of September 27th.
Article: https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-zen-4-ryzen-7000-series-announce…
Better to pay $100 something more for the Ryzen 7000s
If you already are on AM4 these might be some good deals in the next few weeks. Worth considering the other costs with 7000, eg mobo, ram, etc.
Problem is, if you are on B550/X570, then chances are, your CPU is already decent enough (so hard to justify it being a decent upgrade).
If you are on B450/X470, then you need to tackle the BIOS / ROM size limitation issue AND the motherboard chipset supports PCIe gen 2 (not even gen 3). AMD also blocked PCIe gen 4 support on m.2 and the x16 slot wired to the CPU in microcode (motherboard makers previously were able to take advantage of early BIOS version loophole, but AMD disabled it and for 5000 series CPU, there is no chance to use that super old BIOS version (coz. that's for Ryzen 3000 series)).
True, but r7000 would be at least $300 extra costs I would imagine, so it's worth factoring in
@BarneyKB: Since when is 5800X considered great value for money? I'd really like to see 5600 being heavily discounted. Also, what's the rush?
The 8c/16t CPUs have the issue that the following gen's 6c/12t CPUs managing to top that in most commonly used apps (and games). In apps where heavy core count and thread count, the 12c and 16c offering seem more useful.
7000 series CPUs have iGPU. True, no good for gaming, but at least it has that.
It will be a lot more when factoring the price difference between AM4 and AM5 Motherboards as well as DRR4 Vs DDR5 RAM
The DDR5 RAM modules, based on the signalling design improvement, will probably have less issue (honestly, my AM4 experience has been quite rough, not just RAM, but various issues (USB, fTPM) and my X570S motherboard is on "beta" BIOS coz. that's the only version with Windows 11 fix).
Also, from the learnings and mistakes I made during motherboard selection (to save $$$), I know what to do better this time.
I’m not saying it isn’t worthwhile going Ryzen 7000 but it isn’t as simple as just ~$100 more
@FireRunner: It's not as simple as just CPU price either. So, which el cheapo board are we talking about for AM4? The one with just 1 M.2 slot and USB 3.2 gen 1 ports only? Only 1 PCIe x16 slot (with CPU support) and only 1 PCIe x1 gen 3 port expansion B550 board? Pair it with a 8 cores or higher CPU?
Until we see decent, quality AM4 boards drop price to make it really worthwhile, I don't see the need to rush given we are not seeing 7000 series products being sold yet.
5800x was $700 on release.
Id imagine it will be the same again for the equivalent 7000 series model
You can probably compare it to 7700X, should be similarly priced to this deal.
7000 something something HODL
Yes, more, more
Bit the bullet. Was looking to replace my 3600x with something a bit snappier as it's a production machine. Was thinking of grabbing a 5700x, but this works out cheaper.
Good price. Should I upgrade my 3700x?
I'm selling laptop for PC build. Leaning towards zen3 build due to price/performance seems much better compared to zen4 once you account for mobo/DDR5 price premiums.
I'm wanting to keep it under 2k most likely. Would y'all go Zen 3 or zen4? I have a case and 980 pro M2 so far. Just waiting for right deals, not in a huge rush
I'm in a different situation compared to most people. I support all 3 camps (Intel, AMD, and Apple). All 3 of my systems have Thunderbolt support. So for me, I am not going to upgrade AM4 further.
Need to see Ryzen 7000 series in action. Also like to know more about the ASMedia's USB 4 chipset. It'd better not be as problematic as its USB 3.2 gen 2x2 chipset. I would also like to know whether it will finally rival Intel's Thunderbolt 3/4 and offer a more cost effective alternative.
I am frustrated my fastest computer currently has an Apple CPU. AM4 was a bumpy journey for me. Getting Thunderbolt 4 running on it was a real pain (on Apple and Intel, they just work). Memory issue aside, I also experienced USB issues. I do hope AMD cleaned up their mistakes this time and gives Ryzen 7000 series a cleaner run.
Wait another month and check out the reviews for AM5. Make up your mind then.
If you're planning to replace the mobo/ram then absolutely do that. I'm happy to stick with AM4 for now so this suits me
AMD apparently boldly claims the 7600X for $300USD beats Intel 12900k (by up to 17%) in gaming, therefore blowing any of it's current offerings and this CPU also.
You would want to see independent reviews and benchmarks on that, but somebody looking to buy now should probably wait for release now even if just to get a cheap 5000 series.
I thought on average, AMD is claiming about 5%. So that's a measure of single core or low core count usage. Furthermore, that's for 1080p gaming. The even greater marketing spin from AMD was it uses less power to deliver that.
With ASMedia's USB 4.0 chipset, CPU supporting PCIe gen 5 SSD (extra x4 lanes compared to Intel 12th gen), motherboard makers (at least for high end) will split the x16 PCIe gen 5 slot to achieve additional 2 m.2 PCIe gen 5 SSDs (Asus even had one with 4 total PCIe gen 5 SSDs), they are certainly interesting. However, the CPU lanes to the south bridge remains PCIe gen 4 x4 so chipset wise, it is clearly first iteration of AM5 (it feels more like X570 except it is possible daisy chain 2 of them this time).
Bruh, why everyone is negging you? I thought your comment is informative. Upvote for the effort.
I'm still on the Ryzen 1800X on a MSI X370 motherboard.
Back in March this year MSI released a new BIOS for my motherboard that allows for 5000-series CPUs to work in the board. I already have upgraded the RAM to 32GB over the last couple of years. I've just been waiting for a good deal on a 5800X, and I guess now is my time to bite.
(Though I'm aware it will probably start to go down more over the next few weeks, and after the release of 7000-series).
Just bear in mind that, AMD locked X470 and lower chipset from PCIe gen 4 support (BIOS/AGESA block). All those chipsets only support PCIe gen 2. So, if you have workload that's CPU bound, then I guess it is fine to upgrade. You do get the main x16 slot supporting PCIe gen 3 from CPU (and the m.2 slot wired to the CPU will support gen 3 as well).
Since it is X370, there is a chance your board supports SLI (i.e. 2 PCIe x16 slot that can be split into x8 x8 combination). If the x8 x8 combination can be further split into x8, (x4,x4) combination, an add-on card could allow 2 additional PCIe gen 3 SSDs. Do check your BIOS first. 3 PCIe gen 3 x4 m.2 SSDs directly connected to the CPU PCIe lanes is a possibility (bypassing the annoying PCIe gen 2 x4 via chipset path).
Be careful when you remove the CPU cooler, especially if it has an AMD stock cooler. Consider have the PC running and run a few stress test (keep the CPU warm), then turn it off, quickly remove the CPU cooler. If you prefer to keep your old CPU, it is easier to just a B550 board.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
You're right, it does have an SLI mode that can split the PCI-E 3.0 x16 slot into two 8xs, but I don't use that feature. I have a RX 580 that uses the x16 slot, and no other add-in cards.
I'm aware one of the m.2 slots is connected to the CPU (and uses pci-e 3.0 speeds) and the other is connected to the chipset. I only have one m.2 SSD at the moment, I actually recently upgraded it from a 256gb Samsung 970 Evo to a 1TB Samsung 980 Pro, big upgrade, it is my boot drive, and is in the good m.2 slot. My other SSDs are 2.5inch sata-based connections, so not affected.
In regard to removing the cooler, no need for concern. I have a 480mm AIO cooler, and every 18 months when I clean the inside of the PC I pull off the block and replace the thermal compound to prevent it drying out (I use Arctic Silver, so it does dry out after some time and reduce the cooling performance).
I've weighed up the pros and cons, I've been considering my upgrade options for quite some time now. I could wait for 7000-series, buy a new X670 board, new DDR5 RAM, and get the new beasty 7700X CPU, but there is no need. My motherboard is still good, and it seems a shame not to take advantage of the BIOS MSI released that allows me to use the 5000-series CPUs in the board. I don't need PCI-E 4 for anything I do, so by dropping in a 5700X or 5800X I could potentially get another 4 years life out of the AM4 platform on this board before needing to upgrade again. I could even use the money I save, to upgrade my GPU, but I don't do triple-A gaming so that's not a priority.
Let's face it, we don't really need PCIe gen 4 SSDs, let alone PCIe gen 5 super overkill SSDs. 980 Pro is PCIe gen 4 though.
RX580, I have that on my old Intel 8th gen. Honestly, 5800X won't help with that GPU of ours (in terms of gaming). PCIe bifurcation to do the complicated 3 x PCIe gen 3 SSDs setup is not worth the trouble.
Anyway, it is more about being happy (and not wasting time keep on thinking about it). If you want to upgrade the CPU, as it does mean you pushed the CPU to the latest gen of AM4, then sure, go for it. Should be a walk in the park upgrade for you (in terms of effort). 5800X is enough to stop you from wanting to upgrade for a few years? That's great. I really need to stop buying overkill toys I don't need.
BTW, the product listing linked is now showing $401. Still cheaper than the $409 price ozbargainers were excited by this morning.
Very Interesting read above,.. thanks dudes,.. funny im moving from x470 too x570 currently,.. prefer too stay a generation or so before the latest and usually used parts were i can not just to keep to a budget but more for resale value (try to get my money back,.. harder when one over spends) not that my whole pc 'setup doesnt cost in the thousands,.. but my pc system is more of a hobby to build, upgrade,. change parts etc,.. currently building this new upgrade x570 pc system ive dubbed the "impossible build" as will try too install 3x GPU's with all AIO's, 1x 3080 MSI Seahawk AIO GPU and 2x 1070 Seahawks AIO GPU's (hopefully in SLI why not lol) plus the CPU AIO,.. lots of AIO's in one pc system and still have issues fitting everything in a big Fractal Design Meshify Case,.. its the bottom PCI-E slot being too close (as full size ATX board) too bottom of case,.. so ill have too vertically fit the bottom PCI-E 1070 GPU vertically over the other 2 horizontal GPU's,.. though hoses and height of horizontal cards there is no room for the vertical in its usual slots,. so will have to mod case so vertical 1070 GPU is closer to side glass panel by one slot,.. fun fun fun lolz,. should work out with a lot of destination👍😁🤣
What are you using the 3 GPUs for?
Is this likely to get cheaper or stay around the same price in the next month or two?
I want this upgrade but wont be able to install it for another couple months after I move home.
I would suspect the price drop or we will see more sales when Ryzen 7000 is released on the 27th.
If I was in your situation, I would hold out and see what is available closer to when you need it.
Holding out for ~$400
Update: it's now $397.
HODL for 7000 series…!