R U OK OzBargainers? (2023)

R U OK?

R U OK? Day is an annual day in September (today, 14/9) dedicated to remind people to ask family, friends and colleagues the question, "R U OK?", in a meaningful way, because connecting regularly and meaningfully is one thing everyone can do to make a difference and even save lives.

We do this every year and are now focussing our donations to mental health charities. The last few years have been a struggle for many of us. I'm sure I am not alone in having numerous conversations over the past few months checking on the well-being of others (and on myself) in a meaningful way.


Hot Tip: Medicare provides free (or subsidised) sessions with a psychologist after a referral from a GP. It's free/cheap so you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Most mental health issues are very much treatable with professional help. Trouble is that most of us are too scared, embarrassed, or lack self awareness to seek professional help. If you have a broken foot, most people will have no hesitation in seeking a doctor because we know it can be fixed but for mental health issues (which can be just as well treated) we quietly carry on even though the pain and harm may be 1000 times worse. (credit: Bluberry)


The comments and PMs we received last year are part of why we are proud to support R U OK? Day by changing our colours and promoting their cause.

One of the biggest challenges to OzBargain and other online social media sites (e.g. Instagram, Twitter) is promoting an environment where everyone feels comfortable commenting and discussing issues (or deals). We should all recognise that our comments have consequences both positive and negative. People don't participate on a discussion site to be attacked or bullied. While some people may say 'suck it up' and that people should not be so sensitive, we should be aware that we don't truly know the people behind these accounts. Some are young, some may come to here to escape a tough reality, be mentally unbalanced, or they possibly could have thick skin. We just don't know.

On the flip side, a simple gesture such as thanking someone or sending a friendly PM can go a long way. We made a post about contributing to a more positive OzBargain environment and we've had some great results changing some users behaviour by thinking about the impacts of their words.


Over the years of running this initiative on OzBargain (and offline) we've also received some comments making jokes about RUOK? Day. That's fine and jokes are a great way to break the ice. While those people may be OK, many times they are not both in real life and on OzBargain. Keep asking, be meaningful in the way you have your conversation and don't ask just today but any day.

We have forums where you can discuss relationships or anything else off-topic. Also, if you see any comments where you think the person may be struggling, please report to us and we'll get in touch.

You can also feel free to chat with us in the private Talk with a Moderator forum if you have any OzBargain related issues. Or send me a PM about whatever you want (except moderation issues). Please see our Mental Health Page if you need to speak to someone including live chat.

For confidential advice and support call a crisis support line – such as Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Suicide Call Back Service on 1300 659 467.

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ASK R U OK?
  • Be relaxed, friendly and concerned in your approach.
  • Help them open up by asking questions like "How are you going?" or "What’s been happening?"
  • Mention specific things that have made you concerned for them, like "You seem less chatty than usual. How are you going?"

IF

  • If they don’t want to talk, don’t criticise them.
  • Tell them you’re still concerned about changes in their behaviour and you care about them.
  • Avoid a confrontation.
  • You could say: “Please call me if you ever want to chat” or “Is there someone else you’d rather talk to?”
LISTEN WITH AN OPEN MIND
  • Take what they say seriously and don't interrupt or rush the conversation.
  • Don’t judge their experiences or reactions but acknowledge that things seem tough for them.
  • If they need time to think, sit patiently with the silence.
  • Encourage them to explain: "How are you feeling about that?" or "How long have you felt that way?"
  • Show that you've listened by repeating back what you’ve heard (in your own words) and ask if you have understood them properly.
ENCOURAGE ACTION
  • Ask: “What have you done in the past to manage similar situations?”
  • Ask: “How would you like me to support you?"
  • Ask: “What’s something you can do for yourself right now? Something that’s enjoyable or relaxing?”
  • You could say: "When I was going through a difficult time, I tried this… You might find it useful too."
  • If they've been feeling really down for more than 2 weeks, encourage them to see a health professional. You could say, "It might be useful to link in with someone who can support you. I'm happy to assist you to find the right person to talk to.”
  • Be positive about the role of professionals in getting through tough times.
IF THEY NEED EXPERT HELP
  • Some conversations are too big for family and friends to take on alone. If someone’s been really low for more than 2 weeks - or is at risk - please contact a professional as soon as you can.
CHECK IN
  • Pop a reminder in your diary to call them in a couple of weeks. If they're really struggling, follow up with them sooner.
  • You could say: "I've been thinking of you and wanted to know how you've been going since we last chatted."
  • Ask if they've found a better way to manage the situation. If they haven't done anything, don't judge them. They might just need someone to listen to them for the moment.
  • Stay in touch and be there for them. Genuine care and concern can make a real difference.

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Comments

    • So sorry to hear. Thanks for sharing your story.

  • +1

    No I'm not ok, but who'd understand

    • +1

      No one, if you don't talk about it to someone.

    • -3

      I like you thinking we all should be some kind telekinetic/psychic beings that are expected to know the you are not ok.

      Im with formulated. Say something. Anything to someone. A family member, a friend, a coworker.

      Even your gp if you have none of the above.

    • +3

      not your coworkers thats for sure

      • Depends. I have had coworkers and former coworkers that have been there for me. And i to them.

  • @jv are you OK today?

    • +2

      JV is not ok as not being negged enough.

  • +4

    What would make us OK today would be really awesome deals tbh

    • +1

      Even if only briefly.

    • +2

      I would accept them honoured pricing errors. Or gift cards in lieu of.

  • +3

    R U OK?

    No I’m not OK. The cost of living is rising and life is getting worse in many ways.

    There’s no positive outlook for many people’s future. We are superficial and we’ve lost many human connections. We’re embracing an artificial world and no bloody wonder there’s so much depression.

    The future is bleak and no amount of anti depressants or tokenism days at work will fix that.

  • +9

    I am not OK. I've been struggling significantly for several months on top of a background of decades of depression and high generalised anxiety.

    But I am fighting, I will get past this difficult stage and get back to what is normal for me.

    To others having troubles, please don't suffer quietly. Let others know of your pain and discomfort. Don't be afraid to talk to your GP or to Lifeline. There is 100% no shame in struggling with life. So many people are in the same boat. Lifeline is a wonderful resource, and it's not just for people who are at risk of self-harm. I am surprised sometimes by the stigma associated with Lifeline when I talk about them to relatives and work acquaintances. Lifeline is there to help - call them. They are a national treasure and have helped me so many times.

    If you have a few dollars to spare on this day, consider donating to Lifeline. They are literally saving the lives of your friends, work colleagues, neighbours and fellow Australians every day.

    To those that having a bad time today, please talk to someone. I'm on my way to see my GP this morning. Situations get better, we just need support to get past the hardest times when our personal coping capacity is stretched.

    Take care all.

    • +4

      Sometimes its ok to not be ok.

      Do tell someone. Speak to them about your situation.

      Kudos to you fighting and soldiering on. Yes this too shall pass.

      Yeah. Could never understand the stigma against having to call lifeline. Life is shit at the best of times and having someone as just a crying shoulder. Someone to just talk to. It can literally mean the world to these people.

      • Part of the stigma, at least for me is that I'd be taking resources away from someone who really needs it. Because, boy can I talk.. living in the most sparsely populated area of the state in a village of 5 people. I process things so much better if I talk about them out loud, be it life issues, or solutions and inspiration for creative projects. Talking out loud, on your own, on a sheep farm, feels like cabin fever creeping in.

        Thinking I'd only call lifeline when situations get really bad.. but such distress would probably mean not calling then either. Just typing this out now.. I'm thinking, someone to chat to could help prevent things getting to a crisis level in the first place. I should donate.

        • +1

          If you feel the need, please call them without considering the impact on resources. If you need to talk with someone, please call.

          Lifeline worries about the resourcing. You worry about looking after yourself. My understanding is that it's a national service and the crisis supporters who take your call can be from anywhere. The crisis supporters also manage the calls and will tactfully work to end frivolous calls. But anything that is causing you stress, anxiety, depression, and yes, thoughts of self-harm, are a genuine need that they are happy to talk to you about.

          If you are very concerned about resources, they have text chat counselling available via their website as well. Last time I looked, the text chat isn't available 24 hours a day, it has set availability schedule.

          For me, talking to someone is incredibly beneficial. It can significantly improve how I am feeling, both mentally and physically. To have someone caring and thoughtful to talk to is amazing. They will listen, and help guide you onto a path to help with the immediate way you feel and also help with finding other support options.

          Calling them also helps because your call indicates the need and that data can be shown to help get funding from the government and other sources.

          I donate to Lifeline when I can because i) they are always there to help me when I need it, and ii) yes, they support people who are in even greater personal crisis than I am.

  • +4

    No I'm not okay. My job's going nowhere, my job apps aren't going anywhere, I've stopped talking to my RL friends.

    But I'm keeping myself active.

    • +3

      But I'm keeping myself active.

      Thats great. Positive. Keep at it. Things will turn around.

      • +4

        "Things will turn around."
        Xoom, you seem like a really positive person trying to help out, but I wonder if the people that are not OK absolutely won't believe it ever will turn around.

        I wonder if they have enough of cheap words. R U OK is for people having a bad day, but it doesn't suit those having a bad life.

        • +3

          Im not that positive a person at all. I still get overwhelmed at times. I too have problems.

          I just know. With suicide. Its game over. Whilst alive. Theres always a chance. That things can turn around.

          Having a bad life is not turned 180 in one go. Or one easy step. Though it starts with. Saying you are not ok. To others. Sure some of them will go. Thoughen the eff up. While others will be a sympathetic ear. Better still offer support like financial or other material.

          One person may not turn ones life completely around. Though a community willing to help might.

          • @xoom: Thanks for your efforts, I hope some positive karma can be returned to you as well.

            • +2

              @Heaps for Cheaps: Just paying it forward. I too hit bottom. And was helped by a few good and now close friends.

        • +1

          I think if you're willing to listen and not be judgmental, that's good enough. Sometimes people just want to vent.

          • @ddn2004: I have had people chat to me to vent. I just let them. Sometime they just want to let it out.

            As you say. No judgement.

      • +2

        Things will turn around.

        or they won't.

        Not everything and everyone has a happy ending, that's for fairytales. Depression doesn't always find a cure, physical illness doesn't always find a cure.

        it's good to be positive and have a positive outlook but it's not always going to turn around.

        • +2

          Like i said. Im not that positive person. I know real life is no fairytale.

          I also know not all illness be it mental or physical has a cure. Im living proof of it. Im living with the effects of a debilitating disease that could have killed me early on in life.

          I choose not to let my condition get the better of me nor let it define me.

          I too know things may never turn itself around. But giving up trying will most definitely end that chance for things to turn around.

  • +1

    I AM NOT OK!

    • Wanna talk about why?

    • R U OK Limited is looking for you to donate $ in that case

    • +1

      Oh ok, How long have you felt that way?

  • +2

    I am not ok, my stocks has been tanking for the last 2yrs and I'm down over 90k, also lost 15k on crypto too

    • +1

      lost 15k on crypto

      Feels bad. I feel ya.

    • It’s only money … good for ur tax but …

      • I got no capital gains, so got nothing to offset with

        • Hmm cant ya just claim it as a loss to reduce it ? Also might be able to carry forward.

  • -3

    Why do you care?

    • +4

      People don't have to but choose to.

      • based on the number of homeless people that we step over in the city on a daily basis, I have to disagree

        • I did say that its a choice. Some choose to. Some don't. Either action is a choice.

      • -1

        LOL

  • +3

    everyone asks Where are the Deals? but No one ask How are the Deals ?

    • +1

      R U 20% off with cash back?

      • +2

        R U officeworks pricebeat or no deal.

  • +5

    Lost my father this year to lung cancer: He became an incredibly stubborn and self-destructive person after my two brothers died, and he never recovered from the trauma of losing them. Sometimes I wish I could have been a better son for him, but his emotional and physical abuse towards myself and rest of the family made it far too difficult to reach out to him before it was too late.

    I'm still struggling with my own trauma surrounding the whole situation: Therapy and meds have helped, but I'm hitting a plateau where I find myself numb and dissociative every other day, making it impossible to hold down a job for more than a couple months. This month I started devoting time and energy to local shelters and community aid, but unfortunately it doesn't pay the bills, so I feel as if I'm just delaying the inevitable.

    My only advice to other people is to keep trying. Everyone has a unique way to be reached, but simple acts of unfiltered empathy and kindness really do go a long way.

    • +1

      A dear person to me took her own life after her mother passed away. Then not long after lost her older brother to kidney problems. Followed by a diagnosis of stage 3 breast cancer.

      I tried reaching out but by that stage she was too far gone in her depressed state.

      My only advice to other people is to keep trying. Everyone has a unique way to be reached, but simple acts of unfiltered empathy and kindness really do go a long way.

      I agree with this. Keep trying. And reach out to people. Even to just talk.

    • Sorry to hear, what is the “ inevitable” you speak off I don’t like the sounds of it.

      • Sorry I really could have phrased it better! I just mean general financial struggle, home insecurity, etc.

  • +2

    guys, the R U OK campaign int for normal ordinary people.. it's for lance franklin on million of dollars, financially set for life that can take a year off.. its not for the working class that have no savings which contributes to their mental health, and are one month of work from being homeless, so to me it the height of hypocrisy and disingenuous, with the desire to only be seen that you actually care when you don't at all and anyone identified as such in your organisation would be ear marked to be moved out quick smart.

  • +1

    I am too scared for the responsibilities I have to take on when asking someone this question tbh.

    • +1

      Don't think anyone expects you to solve their problem or turn their life around by asking this question.

      Sometimes they just need someone to talk to. Maybe a hug. Or a sympathetic ear. Someone to vent to.

      If you gauge that what they tell you is too overwhelming. We have lifeline. Get in touch or get this person in touch with lifeline.

    • +2

      Having the capacity and being authentically interested in a R U OK conversation is really one of the most important steps before you ask the question. It's 100% ok to feel you don't have the spare capacity for that and not ask the question. Personally, I think it is much better to not ask the question unless you are interested in the person, have the time to listen and at least guide the person onto the next step.

      In saying that, don't underestimate the power and benefit of giving someone even a little time. The most important factor is authentically caring and actively listening to the person. Be involved in the conversation by asking appropriate questions and helping point them in the right direction. Depending on your relationship with the person, a hug or pat on the shoulder, provided with care and sincerity means a lot.

      Also make sure you feel good about letting someone know what you can't do for them if its required. Deliver that with sincerity. "I'm not an expert - I've always found talking with my GP is the best starting point, they always are equipped to help" is 100% fine. "Would you like me to check in with you in X days/weeks?"

  • OK, and that's enough of that for this year, see you in 2024!

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