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[Afterpay] VoltX 12V 120Ah Lithium Battery LiFePO4 $404.25 (RRP $549) Delivered @ fab-living & smart-flash eBay

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[Afterpay] VoltX 12V 120Ah Lithium Battery LiFePO4 $404.25 (RRP $549) Delivered @ fab-living & smart-flash eBay
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Acejos on 10/10/2022 - 20:03 ebay.com.au (328 clicks)
Last edited 10/10/2022 - 20:41 by 1 other user
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From smart-flash (Outbax): https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/154718585764

Hi Guy and Girls,

Following the Noco battery charger i also found this deal for 120AH Lithium LifeP04 Battery (Prismatic Cells) from a decent brand VOLTX with 3 years warranty as well.

You need to use afterpay for 25% off otherwise it will be only 20% with code PNAA20

There is 100AH from Outbax also for $351.75
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/125105800683

Spec for the battery are:
Charging Voltage: 14.6V
Rated Energy: 1536Wh
Charge Method: CC/CV
Charger: 14.6V25A
Standard Charge Current: 50A
Max. Charging Current: 50A
Max. Continuous Discharge Current: 50A
Max. Discharge Current 5 sec: 100A
Life Cycle: Approx. 2000 times
Discharge Cut-off Voltage: 10V
Working Temperature Range: Charge: 0°C to 45°C
Discharge: -20°C to 60°C
Storage Temperature: -10°C to 50°C
Battery Cells: Prismatic
Bolt Type: Hexagon
Bolt Material: Iron nickel-plated
Series Connection: No
Parallel Connection: No
Warranty: 3 Years

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  • FLICKIT on 10/10/2022 - 20:12
    +1

    Be aware these cheap chinese lithium batteries are generally made with second hand cells that are at the end of their life… They come from electric vehicles, street lights, UPS's, or the likes, they pull them out of service once their capacity drops to 80%, then they repackage them to sell in this form..

    And as with anything off ebay there's basically no warranty outside of the 180 day Paypal protection…

    • Acejos on 10/10/2022 - 20:24
      +1

      If you concerned with the warranty pay another $7.5 and buy from outbaxcamping Ebay at $411.75. Or another ~$250 and buy Renogy 100Ah battery.

      • FLICKIT on 10/10/2022 - 20:26
        +1

        Outbax is Voltx, they're the same company, I assume this seller is Outbax also… Outbax is notoriously dodgy with their exaggerated specs and lack of support, you basically have no warranty with them also…

        • Acejos on 10/10/2022 - 20:33

          with majority of Ebay purchases there is a risk and at least with this brand/outbax you can try ACCC them if anything goes wrong.

          There are a few youtube reviews on these brand battery if anyone is interested.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhqcqdgouG8

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGrgYqF_PUQ

          • FLICKIT on 10/10/2022 - 20:41
            +2

            @Acejos: I'm sure these would be fine for someone that wants to do the odd weekend away or the likes, probably not worth it for a campervan or the likes that's going to get frequent use…

            These 120Ah batteries would contain 150ah cells that have been cycled quite a few thousand times and their capacity has dropped to 80%…

            LiFePO4 batteries are classed as being at the end of their life once their capacity drops to 80%, after that their capacity drops off rapidly which is why they're pulled out of service at 80%…

            I think it's pretty dodgy selling these batteries that contain second hand cells as a new product, they should make it clear these are a recycled product..

            Anyway, I just want people to know what they're buying, I was a bit surprised when I realized, it all seems very deceptive…

            • Acejos on 10/10/2022 - 20:46
              +1

              @FLICKIT: You are correct, and this is exactly what i am using it for. Powering the fridge and other odd end items for the weekend away. it is a cheap power source for a little bit of comfort :)

        • Mums Poop Sock on 10/10/2022 - 22:32

          I had a VoltX battery from Outbax that failed and they replaced it and refunded my shipping costs with very little questions asked. They were awesome

        • PukeyLuke on 11/10/2022 - 09:55
          -1

          You state that "lack of support, you basically have no warranty" but according to their website they
          offer a 60 day moneyback guarantee with no restocking fees
          They also have phone support not just "live chat". They even state that "Outbax offers a 12 month warranty on all products
          from the date of purchase" on their website. Your accusations seem "exaggerated" or just not correct at all!!

        • bongom on 11/10/2022 - 11:17

          eBay listing states warranty is 3 years.

    • HappyPants on 10/10/2022 - 21:01
      +1

      Do you actually have proof to back this up? Any links to verified info? I am not having a go at you by any means, its just I have seen no real evidence yet that this is exactly what is happening.

      • FLICKIT on 10/10/2022 - 22:33
        +1

        I've watched a stack of videos in recent weeks researching LiFePO4 batteries… There's a video showing the cells in one of the VoltX 100Ah batteries are 120Ah cells but I cant find the video now, the reviewer claimed they were used cells at 80% capacity…… This seems to be fairly common practice for the cheap ebay lithium batteries.. You wont find any of these cheap lithium sellers advertising them as "new" cells, they claim things like "premium cells" and the likes, which they probably were premium when new, lol, and you cant buy new cells for the money these batteries are being sold for…

        This guy thinks they're new cells, just b-grade, low-grade, or cells that have failed to meet their design capacity, either way rejects: https://youtu.be/I__xxeVaCRE?t=665 , he has a series of videos on the Voltx batteries, he seems to have mixed feelings about them..

        At the end of the day you get what you pay for, if you're happy with buying cheap and only getting a couple of years out of a battery, all good, I considered going this way in the hope the prices of decent batteries will come down in-between times but I've been dealing with a low grade AGM in recent years and I'm just sick of crap batteries, so I went for a LiFePO4 battery with brand-new A-grade cells, I rather be enjoying my travels and not have to chase the sun for a charge or spend money booking into caravan parks to recharge in winter … New A-grade cells are likely to last 6000-9000 cycles, a decent life span…

    • LowRange on 10/10/2022 - 22:40

      "These cheap chinese lithium batteries" So are you just falsely tarring any Chinese battery with the same brush, or do you have proof that VoltX/Outbax is doing that with these batteries because the cells in these are new.

      • FLICKIT on 10/10/2022 - 22:52
        +1

        I didn't say "any chinese battery", I said "these cheap chinese batteries" I'm saying you are not buying a quality battery at these cheap prices, you are buying crap, either second hand cells or very low grade cells, if you're happy with that all good… Just don't be fooled into thinking you're getting a bargain, or think a cheap battery like this is going to last anywhere near as long as a quality battery containing brand-new A-grade cells…

        • LowRange on 10/10/2022 - 23:29
          +1

          Just like virtually everything, there's different quality products at different price points. But to claim these batteries are second hand out of EV's and street lights is a pretty bold statement to make with no proof. Problem misinformation is people take it as fact and they tell 10 people and they tell 10 people and so on. Then nobody can separate fact from fiction.

          But of course, you are not going to get A grade cells and BMS identical to $1,000 battery brands but to say they are second hand is a stretch unless you have proof.

          • FLICKIT on 10/10/2022 - 23:43

            @LowRange: I'll have another rake around tomorrow and see if I can find the voltx video showing the second hand cells for you… If you do some of your own research you'll find a lot of these cheap batteries contain second hand cells…

  • chuneeperformance on 10/10/2022 - 20:15

    DO NOT Directly charge any lithium battery without a BMS! Do not just connect a battery charger and start charging

    • bargainshooter on 10/10/2022 - 20:17
      +1

      Pretty sure this has a BMS - how else would they be able to get to this size?

    • Stevesie76 on 10/10/2022 - 21:03

      It has a BMS in it - all these style of batteries have one. The BMS in these is pretty basic though and only rated for 50 amps, which won't be enough if you want to run a high power device from it.

  • bargainshooter on 10/10/2022 - 20:17
    +1

    That 50A max continuous discharge is disappointing.

  • HappyPants on 10/10/2022 - 21:10
    +2

    If you are going to take a chance on a cheap battery with little or no warranty and second hand cells etc, then here is another cheap option? It's the 100ah, but it comes down to $254 with the code. Even if, (worst case scenario) they are only running at 75 or 80% capacity, that's still pretty good for the price. I think I read on Ozbargain that someone else did a test and it came out at 104ah anyway. Seems like bang for buck, and it might do the job for a few years.

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/165289131235

  • alext0413 on 10/10/2022 - 22:38

    Any battery that is suitable for external battery on e-scooter like Ninebot Max G30 ?

  • driveahardbargain on 10/10/2022 - 22:51
    +11

    Got 2 of these voltx 120Ah, put them in the camper and went on a 3 month trip.
    They easily powered our kit.
    Solar panel charged when the sun was out.
    Charged via the car when driving.
    Longest we stayed in one place was 6 nights.
    Didn't plug into a socket the whole trip.

    They were about $625 for the 2 via an ebay sale.
    My mates have spent $1k per battery. The money i saved paid for the dcdc, acdc, monitor and install.

    If they only last a few years who cares! Lithium will likely be heaps cheaper by then. And I'll probably never need them to perform for such an extended time again.

    Just my experience.

  • graham johnson on 11/10/2022 - 11:41
    -2

    Pay the extra $200 and get the Renogy batteries…..no contest….

    • HappyPants on 11/10/2022 - 12:07

      Well considering you can buy a cheap chinese one for $254.00, the Renogy would want to be more than twice as good. And I'm not convinced that they are. The cheap Voltx and the one listed above might easily get you through a few years, and meanwhile the price of Lithium batteries continues to drop.

      • REDTUTE on 11/10/2022 - 20:41
        +1

        Or maybe it burns your car or camper to.the ground with a BMS failure.

        • Acejos on 16/10/2022 - 14:36
          -1

          All lithium battery regardless of brand will have the risk of explosion and fire, remember Sony and Samsung story many years ago.

          There are these fireproof bag for Lipo battery, it might help reduce some damages in fire and explosion for these battery.
          https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B1VV2CBD
          https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0B7JYKJMD
          or
          ammo box like below
          https://www.amazon.com/PA-108-Fat-Fifty-Ammunition-Ammo/dp/B…
          just drill some small holes for pressure release

          and here is a youtube video on these type of bags
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUzzrY6gF64
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv_3vwSZmzA

          • REDTUTE on 16/10/2022 - 15:48

            @Acejos: The cheap shit has a much greater risk.
            I saw a Solar King nearly burn a 5th wheeler caravan to the ground last week, BMS failure by the look if it.
            Customer burnt the shit out of himself to save his home.

            He now has x2 Enerdrive 200ah lithuim installed, If im trusting not getting burnt to death while im sledping id rather trust a nane brand.

        • graham johnson on 17/10/2022 - 16:07
          +1

          Yeah NAH……. The firey failures are Lithium ION batteries as used in Teslas….phones, cameras, other consumer items.

          These cells are Lithium Iron……….. different tech, Not as high energy density and largely non flammable….

      • graham johnson on 17/10/2022 - 16:08
        -1

        what ever blows your hair back…… IMO I would pay the extra for the renogy cells in my caravan. The warranty alone is worth it…

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