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[Back Order] AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU $559 + Delivery @ Scorptec
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Caillou on 07/11/2022 - 03:23 scorptec.com.au (658 clicks)
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Already recently US$329 (AU$523) direct from AMD, awaiting restock. https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-is-now-selling-ryzen-7-5800x…
Afaik, that price doesn't include any sort of sales tax, add GST and it ends up around the price we are currently seeing in AU.
we were seeing these prices for a few weeks already, though, far earlier than that official price drop.
makes sense that with that official price drop, we'll be seeing even lower sale prices soon.
Haha I was half joking. I ordered it from scorptec. Free c&c plus who’s gonna wait that long to save maybe 20 bucks lol.
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HODLers will wait forever, and either never get the item, or finally get the item but then crave some newer, faster, shinier item. Just buy it and enjoy using it. HODL is for chumps, not chimps.
How much of a jump is this from a good old Ryzen 7 3700X?
jump is quite substantial depending on what resolution + games you play. 3080 @ 1440p i saw an uplift of around 15-20% in CPU bound scenarios. Also doubled my frames on battlefield 5
That's pretty big.
I'm on an ultra-ultrawide monitor so 5440x1440 on a 3080Ti.
You're mostly GPU limited at that resolution. Won't be that big of a jump outside of simulation games.
Upon googling, it is ~20% faster in single core and ~22% faster in multicore, 5800X3D has 3x the L3 cache and so on and so forth. U can google it and see for ur self
Why is everyone so obsessed with this CPU? There seems to be a very specific set of use cases where it beats less powerful and cheaper CPUs. In most cases, gaming performance is similar. In 4K gaming the benchmarks prove its not worth the premium price. And for duties outside gaming, it’s no contest - always trails the competition and older CPUs too.
Lots of people were hodling for Ryzen 7000 but this is just as fast in gaming and doesn't require an AM5/DDR5 upgrade at the same time..
Yes, but what about 4K gaming? Isn’t that the base of the future? I’m concerned people get caught in the hype, and regret later. If we’re talking just 4K gaming and productivity, I think this processor is severely lacking.
Correct me if I’m wrong.
4k is just a resolution, and the resolution you require is only dependent on the size of your monitor, and how far away you like to sit from it. There is no "future" element to how large a monitor someone prefers. 24" = 1080p, 27" = 1440p, 32" = 2160p. Those are the general resolutions that are required at the usual screen sizes to avoid seeing individual pixels, although this is also dependent on an individual's visual acuity, and how much of their field of view they want the monitor to occupy. There's plenty of folks out there who are happy with 32" at 1440p, or 27" at 1080p.
4K gaming is the future - which will be a year or two down the track for most middle enthusiast gamers and THEN they will be buying AMD 7000s etc. The difference is for $600 now they can use their motherboard and RAM, whereas upgrading to AMD 7000 is going to be around $2000 and new motherboard, ram and CPU are needed. Pretty simples.
Because it enables a pretty massive jump in performance without a huge cost for anyone already on the AM4 platform. Yes, you could get an AM5 or Intel CPU and get better performance but you'd need a new motherboard and potentially new RAM.
For people out there (like me) with a Ryzen 3600, this is a great upgrade.
So it’s a CPU mainly attractive to gamers looking to upgrade? I can understand that point of view. I initially got excited looking at the MSFS benchmark results, but then realised under 4K the gains don’t last. Maybe not everyone cares about 4K.
It won't make much of a difference at 4K because you're bottlenecked by your GPU, not your CPU. It's not that this is a 'bad' CPU for 4K gaming, it's more that you don't really need a huge amount of processing power at 4K because you're not pushing many frames per second.
You need to look at the 1080p and 1440p benchmarks.
MSFS benefits a lot from this CPU at 4K and in VR. Plenty of info and testimonials on MSFS forums; you can start here:
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/amd-5800x3d-performance…
Some detailed analysis as to why in here:
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/fps-difference-verifica…
4K is a bit of a meme and we are not there hardware wise yet. Both in terms of reasonably priced monitors and GPUs.
You can get around 60-70fps with high end gear on demanding games, true - but at that point get a console that does the same thing and is cheaper.For me the sweet spot is 2k, where we can hit those incredible 144fps frame rates, which to me is what PC gaming is all about.
If that’s what you like too, and you are on an AM4 platform already, then this is it - the best gaming cpu on AM4. If you are building new, intel 13th gen for sure.
4k is not its primary application.
If you are GPU bound, it wont help.
If tou play a game that is not well optimised (there are many) it can help with 1% lowsIf you are wanting to play in 4k you should be saving and buying a $3000 gpu.. which you will be upgrading again within 2 years.
However if you play in mostly CPU bound scenarios this is a great CPU to purchase if you are on the AM4 platform and not looking to fork out $$$ for a new mainboard and DDR5
I'm leaning towards the 5800x3d as it looks like the best value if you want to stick with ddr4.
I saw a few sources of benchmarks where new Intel 13th gen (still using DDR4) performs worse/on par with this cpu.
DDR5 and DDR5 motherboards are still way too expensive to justify the performance bump.
Of course, if you want the best of the best, youll need new gen with DDR5, but when I do mock builds, the difference in price is about $500 AUD extra for ddr5 options (e.g. 13600kf), or more if you want i7/i9.Just waiting on RDNA 3 GPUs to release to pull a trigger on a new build.
Stupid question. Does ddr5 ram really run at 8000mhz, aka 8ghz?
not a stupid question :)
the ones I know on the market start at 4800mhz upto 6400mhz.I have seen those guys who do liquid nitrogen cooling and go for overclocking records hit over 8ghz but its not a regular thing, so it's possible but in a normal build, you're likely looking at 5600mhz-6000mhz on DDR5 if you get the good stuff.
Did anyone ever ask RAM clock is now faster than CPU?
Next year, people can mine bitcoins on RAMs.Googling taught me DDR means Double data rate. So 8000 RAM runs on 4000MHz. It is still lower than CPU. Phew…
Bought 5800x last year and now this 5800x3d. Dont want to have buyers remorse.
Thoughts on upgrading my 5600x to this? Then selling the 5600x to cover some cost hmmm
Unless you are into Sim racing or one of the other applications that really makes for use of the massive cache, I wouldn't bother.
Not enough difference in most games/applications.
This is ideal for Ryzen 1000/2000/3000 upgrades.
Otherwise just save for next full platform upgrade.Sim racers with Triple monitors love the 3DX.
Pulled the trigger. I still expect it to go $30-40 cheaper on black Friday, but meh - impatient :)
I feel this
Is the lack of PCI gen 4 support a big deal?
It supports gen 4 with x570 mobos
Correct me if I'm wrong but some b550 boards also have pcie4?
Correct
Ive got a 2700x with a msi b450 mobo, rtx2080. Looking to upgrade the cpu currently playing wow/csgo/poe and mw2 on 1440p. What kind of performance change would I be looking at.
Given the FPS jump from a 3700x to 5800x3D in CPU bound games (Such as MMOs, simulators, simulation games, etc.) seems to be 15-20%, I'd say minimum 20-25% jump, but it all depends what games you're playing. Your 2080 may hold you back a tiny bit with a 5800x3D but you'll have to research that yourself :)
I have a 5700G which is the inverse of the 5800X3D, basically has tiny cache. I think it performs on par with a 4600 CPU. Going to wait for this to get to $500 on a special.
Been running a 3600 for the last 2.5 years and upgraded to an RX6700XT GPU this year. Does anyone with similar specs know if I'd see much of an upgrade with this CPU? I pretty much game 50/50 between 1080p and 1440p, but also do some work and play around with VMs and intend on learning blender.
The price has been raised to $649 so much for until the 20th
The ETA on stock for those that have ordered at $559 but not yet have seen their CPU shipped out is now 24/11
I just got my tracking number from Scorptec, ordered them on 8/11. I originally ordered mine from PLE on 24/10 and they gave me an ETA of 25/11 just yesterday. Glad I order from these guys, now I can cancel my PLE order.
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