Finally the stock is back at Jaycar for 4GB. I was waiting for a while to get one. I know it is not a special deal but I had to get one for my project.
Please grab yours while the stock lasts…
Features:
• 1.5 GHz 4GB 64-Bit Quad Core ARM Cortex-A72 Processor
• On-Board 802.11ac Wi-Fi
• Bluetooth 5
• Full Gigabit Ethernet
• 2 x USB 2.0 ports
• 2 x USB 3.0 ports
• Dual Monitor Support (4K resolution)
I just want milk that tastes like milk.
I can't believe its not butter. Oh wait….
The new organic 2L milk at Aldi is different from the organic 1L they've had for years, and is actually really good.
Aldi tho
you'll get your milk, when you fix this damn door!
What are they worth these days? Reminds me to put mine up on eBay.
Let's see if anyone's interested in my Zero Pi W pair on eBay. If not I'll have to find some kind of project. The native integration of ESP32 in Home Assistant is pretty awesome and have a couple doing some basic but useful things. Might have to get some more as Bluetooth repeaters
Keep in mind there's a Pi Zero 2 W as well, if you weren't aware
That isn't entirely comparable. The Pico is a very different board - it doesn't run an OS as such.
I bought one from Core Electronics. Had to buy a kit for $99 in order to get one.
look for bundles, I got a zero 2 w + some waveshare zero > 3b adapter I don't use, more expensive than rrp but still a lot less than the $120 ish core-electronics wants for the kit
Just a thought, considering the recent Dell Optiplex deals on ebay (22% off, I got 7060 i5-8500T 16G, 256 SSD for $286), is getting Raspberry Pi still worth it?
The only concern is probably power consumption, size and what happens if the power brick is dead.
they can also serve quite different purposes
No it's not. There are so many alternatives and some clones to rpi. Cheaper and in same cases better.
Rpi have the lost the plot and are at risk of being overrun. Mainly due to their high pricing borne on by 10 month supply constraints and price gouging.
What clones are there? I would appreciate a link if you have one.
Search for Banana Pi and Orange Pi, there are some other options but those two are quite easy to find on aliexpress.I still have one of the first Banana Pis and no problem finding current OS for it.
EDIT: depending on your project, Banana Pis may have many other board options to choose from.
@upsidedownlemon: I have a few Orange Pis, they're great and well supported by Armbian. Have been using the devices for years
Yep, would love to grab a comparable clone
I've seen Orange Pi mentioned in other places
The supply issues are a little more complex, and actually stem from their release of the Pi Nano, which uses a non-Qualcomm processor.
Qualcomm got mad, relationships between the two companies went sour, and processor supplies are being held back.
It's quite farcical.
Isn't the Pi a Broadcom processor, and nothing to do with Qualcomm?
It also depends on what you're using it for. A lot of people use the Raspberry Pi for robotics and other hardware/DIY electronics projects. While it can be used as a micro desktop computer, that's certainly not all it is useful for.
Exactly my thought. I bought one of the micro optiplex refurbs - far more capable than a pi4.
Its just hard to find one with similar processing power with a small footprint at a low price point. For 109, its just not alot of SBC for the money….not that there is stock anymore
A pi4 has worse processing power than even a fairly old i5. it's only advantage is power consumption IMHO.
@lunchbox99: No GPIO on i5, if you are into that kind of thing. They weren't originally created to be just miniature pcs.
@bargainpersona: Yeah, if your interest is projects go a rPi or equivalent. If your interest is a desktop or retro gaming emu box, maybe consider a refurb mini optiplex or equivalent.
ODRIOD N2? Might be a little more expensive but the AMLogic S922X is massively more powerful than the RPi.
@Chandler: With a charger, it comes out at around $270 AUD before shipping, and without a case, which isn't particularly easy to find in that form factor if you want something that isn't a bodgy flat-pack. I'd personally just go with a used 6th-Gen NUC which has a case.
That said, it does come with two 2.5Gbit Ethernet ports, which is pretty sweet at that price, power envelope and form factor.
Take a look at used/refurbished thin clients.
Just a thought, considering the recent Dell Optiplex deals on ebay (22% off, I got 7060 i5-8500T 16G, 256 SSD for $286), is getting Raspberry Pi still worth it?
You are comparing apples to oranges, while Pis can be used as general purpose computers, that is not what they are designed for nor should be used for. If you just want a regular computer that runs a fully featured desktop operating system for doing everyday computing tasks from a desk (browsing , word processing, media streaming etc..) then by all means get an Optiplex as that will be a lot faster, and easier to use than a Pi.
But if you want an easily programable, small, power efficient, special purpose computer to do just one or few specific things, then a Pi is a clear choice. Here are some interesting Pi projects (Google for more ideas), using an Optiplex for those projects is not always practical now is it ?? Thats where the Pi shines.
I have owned lots of Pis, but frankly most of those projects are just shit.
Haha I hear you… you'll always find these enthusiast types spouting 'RPi will save the world' in these threads, followed by a link to some janky projects that would impress a 12 year old.
Thanks, good explanation, I was thinking more of just fun testing & development point of view, & jsut to see what others thnk
I was thinking more of just fun testing & development point of view, & jsut to see what others thnk
It’s a very valid question, especially since the RPi foundation is also promoting the Pi as PC.
I do have a Pi 4 8GB model, and I have briefly checked its desktop performance when I first got it. But found it to be very disappointing compared to even the cheapest, and the slowest desktop I own, which is a Core i5-4570 /16GB HP G1 that I picked up from an e-recycler for around $125 a few years ago to use as a bedroom HTPC. The Pi lacks power to do some of the demanding everyday tasks smoothly (like stream 4K hi bit rate videos) and to make matters worse, it also lacks software support due to having an ARM chip.
My main reason to get the previous Pi was to play emulators and have a portable gaming machine. But even now retro hand helds are similar prices and have screens and control pads.sp for me the RPi aren't worth it anymore.
Whoever downvoted this guy, you’re a muppet.
It’s a good question. Why penalise someone for asking a good, honest question?
A downvote is not a ‘no’/disagree vote.
Hey it wasn't me!
That's a very good deal especially if it's the tiny/micro model - a lot of power in a tiny package. Unless you have a niche use case for a Raspberry Pi (e.g. something that needs to be specifically lower powered and extremely compact), an ordinary desktop PC (for desktop PC use) is going to be much better.
For anyone who is out of the loop, while this is not a historically good price for a Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB, it has been extremely hard (near impossible) to buy a new Raspberry Pi 4B for quite some time now, so this is definitely a bargain IMO.
Even at discount prices, the Rpi4 is a "questionable" bargain since direct competitors offer more features, more power, or cheaper prices.
But the reason you get a Rpi4 is because of the community support. Granted when the Model 4B was released it was pretty shocking that I recommended people get an Odroid instead. But over time the community have picked up the slack that the Pi Organisation dropped.
However I'm weary about the next version. Kernel and Drivers may be bad and closed. Performance may be pretty back too. Me thinks they'll stick with the Model 4B for a while longer until the community is frustrated only then to release a new one. It's what happened with the Model +3.
Maybe they can make the next leap into ARMv9 instruction set, and add more AI-GPU hardware for some robotics testing. Stay clear from the general purpose CPU power race since they will never win it.
Bought one, not sure what for yet. Might try making it a network music player first. Can I run ESXi on this thing?
Great for Home Assistant
I just got started with home assistant last week on my laptop since I don't have a pi. It's been good so far, but if I stick to using HA I think I'll probably move it to my always on media PC - it's always on anyway so don't really care about the increase in power usage, and saves me buying a pi. Of course not for everyone, but I really appreciate that HA has that option - wish more companies did that
I've been running my HA on a PI for about a year. works great.
I run mine via a Windows Surface Pro 3 and VirtualBox. Much easier to backup and restore and higher reliability with SSD. I would not recommend running Home Assistant via SD card. I had bad experiences with them failing or slowly degrading to the point where your backups are useless because of gradual corruption over time.
@10101010101: Yeah, I've heard bad things about running HA through SD card. I'm using VirtualBox too, and so far, it's been really good!
@Opaquer: It was advised to use a ssd connected via the usb port as an alternative. Its not as compact but more robust.
@10101010101: I've ran HA on an SD card for nearly 3 years on a RPi and never had to touch it.
Pretty sure I researched an appropriate durable/long term SD card at the time to avoid any dramas and it's been faultless.
I was reading this RPi deal and literally forgot I already had one.
You can also quite easily back up everything in HA, in the event it shits the bed.
Meanwhile I've seen people on /r/homeassistant say the complete opposite and that they find it frustrating that Pi gets recommended so often. Probably due to people using SD cards instead of SATA SSDs?
I ended up going with a VM so it would be easy to rollback, backup and restore.
Bought one, not sure what for yet.
Like a true ozbargainer that you are. Buy first. Find use for it after.
LOL. I bought a Topping D10s just then to go with my lofty music player idea.
Ozb membership badge extended to 2025.
This is the way
8gig is much better…
Unnecessary for some use cases.
given windows support on the 8gb, could be worth while. prices are too damn high though, I remember my pi 3b+ was like $35, granted 1gb ram.
I tried setting up selenium on the raspberry pi for automation, but realised windows 11 on the raspberry pi running automation with a emulators just impossible but also very much better.
I mean first we need a emulator(and Linux has no ability to emulate android like windows, plus if we want to host a android app we need a emulate it, and then we need a specialised x86 app to run windows shell mapping the entire screen not just the browser.)
While raspberry pi has so much potential under Windows it's just not there yet, unless its a Asus Rog 6 with 3.00ghz of speed with 16gig of ram.
So your saying if I sell a pi4b8gig now I could sell it for more.
It cost $154 from china back in 2019, what are they selling for now.
Gpu's are normalising so why not SBC.
If memory serves me correct, it’s twice as good.
Pun overload.
PunToad
I have 21 Docker containers running on a 4gb RPI, and I only used about 70% of it's memory. So, unless you already know what service would consume a lot of memory, 4GB is enough for most of the people.
400000 GB would be better too.
You dont need that much ram. You can always download more later.
this or an i7 gaming rig?
this + RTX 4090 for sweet FPS
i7 2600 gaming rig on gum tree probably same price
and 100% less burn your house down
You should get 3000 FPS, easy.
If the FPS is not over 9000. I don't want to know about it
easy headshots in COD - pwning all the noobs :D
Wow, the little $35 computer has come so far :)
Got ravaged by inflation.
It was actually chip shortages combined with additional demand.
Yeah nearly 3x the price.
I remember when $35 was its main selling point
yes & I remember a box of 75 turning up at work for a project that got shelved after initial roll out & they just sat there for a few years doing nothing, probably still there too as I don't work there anymore
Was it ever $35 in Australia though? Only the US ever got the "real" price, like the $5 Pi Zero.
I miss thé $5 or $10 pi zéro w when you could find them
Dang. When I went to the site there was 3 left, I tried to add it to my cart and they were gone.
Didn’t last long
Thats what she said.
And while pleebs instantly buy out all stock at rediculous prices that make no sense for a raspberry pi, the shortages and stupid pricing continues.
Could have just said that you missed out.
I just want a rpi zero w. Bah