Part of the Amazon UK buy two items save additional 10% promo as well
Gen 4x4 NVMe PCIe performance
Up to 3,500MB/s read, 2,100MB/s write
M.2 2280 form factor
CamelCamelCamel.
I am mildly annoyed. I thought it was likely a price error and was prepared for it to be cancelled.
Still, cancellation saves the time of shuffling data, finding enclosures, and Windows installs.
Reminiscing the days when Amazon order cancellations came with credit
They still do if you contact customer service to complain.
They just don't automatically come with free credit anymore
@edrift: Not 100% from personal experience and comments strewn about previously. I recall reading a couple lucky comments on $20 credits recently.
*Have live chatted and used the old email on multiple occasions
At least cancellation saves the return trip!
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How many automated pricing errors can a seller make before it enters the threshold of misleading bait advertising
@UsernameChecksIn: I think by now consumers, especially those on bargain sites, are used to it. Back when coupons were offered, Amazon was much less established.
If you've been on Ozbargain for a while, you've watched e-commerce take off and have probably lowered expectations.
You've seen Hardly Normal and Gerry calling Ozbargainers professionals.
Is this better than WD Black SN850X?
Lol.
I’m confused then. Why the cancellation comments?
@Beowolve: SN850X is a much better SSD.
There was a pricing error yesterday on Amazon UK products sold on Amazon AU with multiple storage products which resulted in orders being cancelled.
@Beowolve: WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 1TB $88.29 Delivered @ Amazon UK via Amazon AU
Quite a few people reported their orders got cancelled. Otherwise, given that deal, why would anyone get this?
@netsurfer: I had my order cancelled along with an order for 4TB WD USB HDDs. I doubt anyone will receive anything from that deal or other Amazon deals posted last night.
@ihfree: Understand, but I am just basing it on the current official deal status on OZB. It's listed as 'out of stock' not 'pricing error'.
Also, while I missed out (not that it matters it seems), I am still hoping at least a small portion of OZBers will receive theirs.
If the sn850x is a golf TDI this would be the equiv of a kia picanto.
So no nah not even close. Deal was cancelled because bezos was afraid he would lose 0.0001% of his daily income, that and he’s an arsehole alright.
Do i need a heat sink if i put this in my ps5?
This ssd is not recommended for PS5. Sony recommends a speed of at least 5,500mbs. This ssd may technically work now but is not guaranteed for the future.
You don't have to, but since Sony recommends it, might as well get one to keep on thinking about it.
$15 heatsinks appear to work well enough
Compatible slower PCIe 4 drive
Damn that's tempting
Thanks OP
We can't compare 100% as the one you linked to is sold by an independent seller, while this one is sold by Amazon UK itself.
that'd mean that amazon UK would have sold out anyway, otherwise they'd be the top listing on Amazon UK.
That's a Possible way, perhaps orders here will also get cancelled?
It won't be cancelled because you can get this locally here for $99 from two retailers (for at least a week now).
Also, from my testing, the performance is disappointing for a Phison E21 based SSD. Instead of making the SSD beats E19 counterpart (compared to another E21 SSD which did), Kingston has elected to cripple this that it doesn't even beat most, if not all E19 SSDs.
This SSD is best considered as a PCIe gen 3 SSD except it has a PCIe gen 4 SSD chipset that can trick PS5.
Thanks for clarifying mate 👍
Would buy if its was a better quality one. This is not bad though.
I have this particular SSD so here is my quick review.
The main reason I got it was the price (got it from a local retailer for $99, but if I knew Amazon UK would do this deal, I would have waited). I was hoping Kingston really underquoted the specs and NV2 would actually take advantage of E21 (which in theory is capable of 5000MB/s sequential read at high queue depth). Unfortunately, Kingston did NOT underquote [PCIe gen 4 x4 mode: 3633MB/s read, 2925MB/s write at Q8T1; at Q1T1, you are looking at 2250MB/s read]. So, Kingston really went cheap to lower the cost and this SSD performs worse than E19 based PCIe gen 4 SSDs. The 3 years warranty doesn't help, neither is the relatively low TBW.
My suggestion is consider this as a mid range cheap DRAMless PCIe gen 3 SSD. As for PS5, honestly, this is still viable because PS5 games don't really require PCIe gen 4 speed to be honest. You do get what you paid for and this really is the lowest of the low end PCIe gen 4. It does have TLC, but inferior grade.
From a cost perspective, the price is attractive (and this does beat NV1 and Crucial's QLC offerings).
Thanks for the hands on review. More reviews emerging and looks like 2TB uses SM2267XT controller which has 3900/3500 read/write specs. Unsure if just the 2TB is different right now but it supports the component lottery and cost cutting argument. If performance is limited to the lowest potential spec maybe they can avoid misleading reviews like Crucial P2 TLC to QLC.
Thanks for this. Now, I am wondering whether the NV2 1TB I have is SM2267XT as well. Looks like NV2 has component lottery already.
One reason I initially decided to purchase initially was based on this chart:
https://tpucdn.com/review/kingston-nv2-1-tb-m-2-nvme-ssd/ima…
That looks like a proper E21, but it seems Kingston has already changed to a different controller (which explains the drop in performance and price). My Crystal DiskMark test was based on 1MB files, rather than 512K done by the review. Already removed the SSD from my PCIe gen 4 machine.
Did you have any tests on random performance? Maybe less relevant for storage drives but that is what TPU commended. Hard to find comparisons with same test setup as TPU. E21T does have higher rating at 780/800K IOPs than SM2267XT at 500/500K.
NewMaxx also suggested an E21T bug might overstate some benchmarks.
Out of curiosity what's the cheapest gen 3 ssd with the best tbw.
All I'm really looking for is to fill my last m.2 nvme slot with something that will last the longest times.
I don't really need or care much for the higher speeds since any gen 3 ssd will perform better than my crucial mx500's which is what I will be using after my m.2 slots are all full.
Just trying to fill my PC's storage with cheap long lasting aka high endurance rating high tbw SSD's.
If anyone knows of a good high tbw sata 3 ssd that is also very cheap $/TB I'm on the lookout for some.
I just want my pc to last a long time I can manage with low speeds since everything is already amazing for me coming from older stuff. I don't need the latest and greatest.
cheapest gen 3 ssd with the best tbw
You need to make up your mind. Which part is more important? Cheap or best TBW?
since any gen 3 ssd will perform better than my crucial mx500
That's not true. Not in sustained write after SLC cache is depleted. Some of the low cost gen 3 SSDs use QLC and any QLC that's 1TB or below has subpar true QLC sustained write speed.
The current market situation is that SSD makers generally have stop making top notch PCIe gen 3 SSDs. Assuming WD hasn't done a NAND swap on SN750 (non-SE version), that's probably the best. Samsung 970 Evo Plus has had a NAND change so while its performance has improved when SLC cache is used, the sustained write after SLC cache is depleted has dropped. The main issue is flagship PCIe gen 3 SSDs don't sell well and PCIe gen 4 low end SSDs do quite well and most customers don't really care about sustained write issue (they get blindsided with other benchmark results).
So, the sad reality is that, you might as well go for quality PCIe gen 4 when they are heavily discounted. Quality PCIe gen 3 SSDs are hardly on sale (coz. the demand isn't high enough). Likewise for cost effective SSDs, go for low end PCIe gen 4 (before they start to cut more corners and go QLC).
Any recommendations in the 4tb market?
I just want my ssd to last the longest like 10 years from now still be functioning.
I don't care if the speeds are bad.
@AlienC: No recommendation for 4TB because SSD makers know people want 4TB and they have no incentive to drop price on those.
Last 10 years, that's actually a bad idea. You are better off doing regular backups and transition to newer devices once the warranty of your SSDs run out. While HDDs and SSDs could last more than 10 years, you don't count on that (especially manufacturers only offer 5 years warranty normally).
for $81.70 each as i needed 2. Seems like a good price to me. price matches the performance
definitely need to buy 2, so you will have similar TBW of other brand's endurance.
Endurance is over-rated. I had a Samsung SSD which died with less than 1.5TB written to it. It died within 12 months (hardly used).
To be fair, I also had a Kingston A2000 1TB which died recently. Once again, less than 2TB written to it (close to 4 years).
@ ~$80, it can beat quite a lot of PCIe gen 3 SSDs in general usage. For now, Kingston is putting TLC (albeit cheap grade) in this.
Owned one of the NV1, went dead within 6 months of normal usage as work computer, consider NV2 won't be far from it.
The week before it died, I realize the laptop's wifi won't connect until like few minutes after login.
@dlovep: I had a similar experience with a Samsung SSD, so does that mean no more Samsung SSD for me? The experience was the same. For an SSD that doesn't do sudden death, the tendency is extreme sudden slowness and/or weird behaviour, but that SSD will enter complete death fairly soon.
If the concern is 3 years warranty, then fair enough. However, unless you exceeded your TBW in NV1, is it correct to say it was a TBW issue?
To me, it depends more on the model, rather than the brand. Also, Kingston is basically a glue and go SSD maker. For NV1, the NAND is from Micron, whereas NV2 uses Toshiba. Again, the brand of the NAND flash does not mean anything, it is more the type and batch that matters. Personally, for NV1, I would not go for 1TB or higher (because it is QLC with very aggressive SLC cache).
For primary machines, it's better to go for better ones. However, for non-critical, secondary machines or external SSDs, there are no cost effective decent PCIe gen 3 NVMe SSDs. 970 Evo Plus isn't cheap and already had a NAND swap, SN570 has inferior NAND.
To tackle SSDs with lower TBW, avoid using them in a situation where you will fill the drive up to 90% and still be doing a lot of writes repeatedly. However, all the SSDs which went dead on me, zero of them reached 5% of their TBW.
@netsurfer: For my case is the controller chipset gone and no way I am going to post that back to Taiwan for half the cost. I throw it in the bin and save me the hassle.
The issue for the SSD is the warranty that need to contact Taiwan headquarter for RMA, it's only 512GB not really a concern if you've got backup, but still TBW is one of the indicator to consider rather ignore. Like if they stated much lower compare to others meaning you should well aware it's not going to last long.
It was ironic that the original 320GB HDD of the laptop still running fine, albeit really slow.
@dlovep: Hold on, that's not right. For my Kingston SSD which died a few months ago, I contacted MSY (yes, after ~4 years) and MSY informed me they did not have that SSD in stock anymore so they asked me whether I want an equivalent item OR a full refund. I opted for full refund.
I got my full refund by walking into the store, handed over the faulty SSD with the paper work MSY RMA team sent me. You can imagine the SSD costed more 4 years ago and with that money, I purchased a new Samsung SSD.
Kingston SSD's warranty here is via the retailer. That's why for Kingston SSDs, I generally prefer local retailers near me, preferably ones with good service. I thought MSY's warranty would be average, but full refund after 4 years, cannot complain. So, for SSDs which I am not willing to do post back RMAs (basically non WD, Samsung, Seagate SSDs), my preference is to buy from local retailers. I am guessing Amazon after sale service should be good.
I'm so pissed of after getting my WD Black SN850X order cancelled.