It's Wednesday morning. You're invited to an event at 5PM, next Saturday.
How do you respond?
When is 'Next Saturday'?
900dollaridoos on 29/11/2022 - 15:55
Last edited 29/11/2022 - 15:56
Last edited 29/11/2022 - 15:56
Poll Options
- 168"I'll see you in 3 days"
- 8"I'll see you in 4 days"
- 1344"I'll see you in 10 days"
- 14"I'll see you in 11 days"
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How do you respond?
Will there be drinks?
^ This is the correct response.
And if the reply to that is "No", then you reply "send a zoom link"And if it turns out to be a zoom, they can watch you holding a nice cold drink during the call.
C U Next Tuesday!
anyone who doesn't reply this when asked ANYTHING about an up-coming Tuesday has missed a golden opportunity.
Soooo… what you are asking is, does "THIS Tuesday" mean the same thing as "NEXT" Tuesday?
The word "next" relies heavily on "present" for it to work. On Tuesday, next Tuesday means the one following the one you are currently on, ie, 7 days away.
Since Wednesday is not a "present" Tuesday, we need to get to a Tuesday before we can use "next" again.
If it were Monday and you were referring to the very next day, the Tuesday, would you say "Next Tuesday"? Where is this magical line that is drawn where "next" becomes "this"??
What people should be saying is "This coming Tuesday…" and "next" should only be used if you are on the day you are talking about moving to (if it is Monday, use "next" for the Monday in 7 days)
I reckon start of the week is the cut off
ie if on Sunday they said next Tuesday, I'd think they meant not the current week but the following (ie skip a Tuesday)Considering Saturday and Sunday are the weekEND, why does the week start on Sunday and not Monday?
@jaejae69: The week does start on Monday for most of the world - only a few oddball countries use Sunday. :)
Next tuesday never comes because the moment you get to that next tuesday it will be next(next tuesday).
How do you respond?
probably by clarifying which Saturday they mean if its uncertain, but hey… I'm an outside the box kind of thinker :)
Agree, except most people don't feel uncertain until a question like this pops up.
So where does your NEXT door neighbour live - the adjoining property or two doors down?
Are you talking about this neighbour?
Days of the week and physical objects are not the same.
ohhh, that explains why I just got a sinbin for 'trolling' haha
If its wednesday and you want to see me in 3 days, why not just say 'see you saturday'?
Really, it's the placement of the words that confuses the understanding.
Saturday next. Saturday week etc
However, by selecting your day as Wednesday, Saturday next cannot be, with any level of assurity, the Saturday after the Saturday coming. Personally, this is requiring clarification.
If it were Thursday or Friday, Saturday next obviously becomes the Saturday after the coming Saturday.
Language, like time, is relative.
I'm a pretty literal person, but even I say next Saturday would be the Saturday after the one coming, based my previous encounters with other humans.
To me "this" means the Saturday coming. "Next" means the following Saturday. Ask my partner or my parents and they'll all trll you that I'm wrong. But I stand by my opinion.
I guess it's like saying this (week) Saturday and next (week) Saturday.
Google says:
What does it mean next Wednesday?
The term "this Wednesday" always means the very next occurrence of the day. The term "next Wednesday" always means two Wednesdays out. So on: Monday the 1st "this Wednesday" means Wednesday the 3rd. Monday the 1st "next Wednesday" means Wednesday the 10th.I wonder if it was Thursday 4th, will people still says "this Wednesday" to refer to Wednesday the 10th? It's only make sense if 'This' is used in the same week and for the upcoming day, not prior.
Quick question, when you say you are going to be on the "next train home", do you mean that you are not going to take the first train but the one after?
When is nek minit?
Next Saturday is Saturday week. Eg, 10 days away.
So I actually had an identical poll that got deleted, the only difference being the "Next" was for next tuesday, eg almost a week away. Almost everyone was voting that it should be within the week not the week after.
No, that is “Saturday week” or “a week on Saturday”.
The use of the word “next” implies the time that the said event will occur after now.
Ahhh the age old question.. I always ask for clarification because… Because of stuff like this poll.
Next Saturday is … wait for it … the next Saturday after today. That may be in anywhere from one to seven days' time.
As ever though, modify/clarify your language depending on the importance of your message and the audience receiving it.
If it is critical that you are understood, you would likely run with some variation of either, "this coming Saturday" … or "Saturday week, 10th December".
If the context of the conversation or the timing of the event within it is trivial, it really makes precious little difference.
next saturday and this saturday is the same thing. the correct term, for the following saturday after the coming saturday is 'saturday week' the term has been in use for decades, but for some reason, very few people use it now, or understand what it means.
So, if you are on the train which is the next stop? is it the next stop or the one after the next stop being the next next stop, but for ease of communicating in the English language let's call it the double next stop.
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And yet the majority disagree with you?
The majority thinks that when you say:
Eg, on a Wednesday, most people agreed that "next Tuesday" would be 'the next Tuesday', but "next Friday" would be "the Friday after the coming Friday".you are wrong too… just pointing you that when you live in glass houses….
Wait how am I wrong? I haven't even expressed my opinion yet haha
The Saturday after this Saturday.
Best way is just use the date Saturday the 3rd of December or Saturday the 10th of December
It's a common point of contention, with no clear answer, so it's best to always clarify, eg "Saturday next week", "Saturday week", "Saturday the 20th", etc
Just use Julian day to avoid all confusion.
is this another one of those questions like the tiktok one i seen
when someone says to postpone a meeting is it move the meeting forward or back sort of question, everyone has a different understanding or view on what it means but there is no strict definition ?Why did you put 11 and 4 days in the poll?
Because it was a secondary discussion we had at work. Assuming Next Saturday is This Saturday, is that 3 days away (not counting today) or 4 days away (rounding to the nearest 24hrs).
So to those people, "See you in one day" equals "See you today"?
I interpret it as the Saturday of the next week, but I do think that it should be the nearest Saturday no matter what week even though it isn't accepted that way.
10 days would be the next Saturday, in 3 days is this Saturday.
If morons can't even follow simple syntax then just use proper dates. Bloody hell.
I always confirm WHICH Saturday they’re talking about, to make sure we speak the same language. But I reckon it should be 10 days time.
Insert the word 'week's' into the statement and everything should be clearer.
- You're invited to an event at 5PM, next Saturday. > You're invited to an event at 5PM, next week's Saturday.
- This Saturday > This week's Saturday.
- Last Monday > Last week's Monday.
Okay but if it's Saturday and you say, "are we going to the park this Saturday" are you talking about today or 7 days from now.
If it is Sunday and you say, "are we going to the park next Saturday" are you talking about 6 days from now or 13days?
That’s why we have dates!
It works the same in the other direction, 'this' still means this week and 'last' means the previous week.
So if today is Wednesday, then 'this Tuesday' means yesterday, 'last Tuesday' means the one eight days ago. 'This Thursday' means tomorrow, 'last Thursday' means the one six days ago.
This Saturday and next Saturday
This is what I dislike because while majority of people can agree, there's always a minority that doesn't and that's ok.
We need to communicate clearly, cause just based on the literal meanings, next Saturday can still be 3 days from now Saturday but as a society it's 10 days from now.
Just like how people say the meeting moved forward 1 hour, some people think it's earlier and some people think it's later.
As people, all we can do is clarify, "sure, you mean Saturday the 3rd right? In 3 days?"
It's a good filter so the people who get it wrong won't be at the party on Saturday.
- This Saturday
- Saturday week
Next Saturday is usually followed by "so not this Saturday, the one after it", at which point you then ask for the date to be clear. (And yes Saturday week quite often gets the same response, but not as often)
I think it's stupid, ambiguous and leads to confusion and msitakes but there's This Saturday and Next Saturday.
Why they do this for days is unknown to me but people should stop doing it for the sake of accuracy.
If I'm driving down the street and say, take the next left. You're not going to skip the first street and take the second one are you? So why do it with days.
It's only a small percentage who get it wrong though.
And if you look at the distribution of IQ that small percentage will probably get anything wrong.
Even if you give them the exact day of the month, they going to show up a few months late or whatever. haha
I would measure my IQ with your IQ any day of the week mate, if you are within 20 points of me I would be surprised. It is people that come from other languages and try to use logic that will get it wrong.
Righto mate, I'm sure you're right up there with Einstein! bahaha
msitakes
I see what you did there
This often causes a lot of confusion and there is not a universal rule, so I always clarify, something like….
This coming Saturday the 10th or
A week on Saturday the 17th
So it appears some of the population think THIS SATURDAY meant the Saturday just PASSED.
Which is incorrect, as it is LAST SATURDAY.
Who changed the meaning of "next"?
adjective
1.
(of a time) coming immediately after the time of writing or speaking.
"we'll go to Corfu next year"2.
coming immediately after the present one in order, rank, or space.
"the woman in the next room"Public vote doesn't change the meaning of "next".
If today is Wednesday and next Saturday is the following Saturday, then if I see you next year, I'm seeing you in 2024?
Although I agree that "see you on Saturday" or "see you this Saturday" would be the best way to phrase it, there is no logical reason to justify why "next Saturday" is the following Saturday and not the actual next.
Another example:
"The next train on platform 3 is the 8:25 Pasargada stopping all stations to Pasargada"So if you wanna go to Pasargada, are you going to take the train that is arriving on platform 3 in the next 30 seconds, or wait for the following?
Again, there is no logical or semantical reason to interpret "next" differently in "next Saturday" or the "next train".
It's an abbreviation that 90% of people seem to have no trouble understanding.
This Saturday is this week, Saturday. Next Saturday is next week, Saturday.
Abbreviation? Reference, please? *You can't use this poll as the reference. 😬
@this is us
Your logic is inarguably correct.
It seems that most voters in this poll are completely wrong.
How bizarre and confusing for the correct ones amongst us;)Does "we'll go to Corfu in March this year" have the same meaning to you as "we'll go to Corfu in March next year" ?
What about "we'll go to Corfu this March" vs "we'll go to Corfu next March" ?
Or even "we'll go to Corfu this Saturday" vs "we'll go to Corfu next Saturday" ?
Seeing a pattern here?
Ah, you know it's 2022 when the majority are wrong and the minority are correct!
You are comparing logic with convention. Language doesn't always follow logic
"If today is Wednesday and next Saturday is the following Saturday, then if I see you next year, I'm seeing you in 2024"
Our culture defined the 'fortnight' terminology so that weeks can be accounted for in two absolute conditions, THIS WEEK (first week) and NEXT WEEK (second week).
So far as I know, our culture has not yet defined years into two absolutes, only accounting for every 4 years when taking into consideration the leap year for the one supplementary day.
Your logic whilst appearing logical, fails to equate when you take into consideration cultural verbatim.
Next Saturday and this Saturday are the same thing.
As everyone has a different definition; I clarify which one they mean.
It doesn't matter what the poll says or what a dictionary says or what you think it means. The only thing that matters is what the person who sent it thinks it means and if you aren't sure then ask them.
That's why in the North of England we said 'Saturday' and a 'week on saturday'. Agree that the 'this' and 'next' thing is fairly confusing.
Only in the north of England?
I think the west, east and south might have a few words to say about that.I can't speak for the west, east and south as i'm not from there and, as you probably know, dialects and terminology varies significantly from one area to the next.
I didn't strike this until somewhere around the late 90s. Before then "next" always meant just that… the NEXT instance or occurrence of. If someone meant two Saturdays from today, that's what they said: "Two Saturdays from today."
Then a couple of people started saying, "Oh no, not THIS Saturday, the NEXT Saturday AFTER next Saturday." !?!? But when someone says turn down the next street, you don't skip the first street and take the second one, right?
So now that more people are infected with this confusion-creator, I have to say … "Do you mean THIS, NEXT, Saturday coming? Or the SECOND Saturday AFTER the NEXT Saturday in a few days time?" … so people see they're needlessly creating confusion and hopefully stop using this silly terminology.
Tomorrow is the next day.
If the day is Saturday then the Next Saturday would be in 7 days time.
The Next Saturday would be the Next day that was a Saturday.
Saturday week would be the Saturday after this coming Saturday.The bottom line is please just ask for the date.
If you google the meaning of Next Saturday you get the following answer.
"Next Saturday" means the very next Saturday, whether it's in two days or seven days. "On Saturday" and "this Saturday" mean exactly the same thing. A Saturday that falls more than eight days away is "a week from Saturday."So when is "a week from next saturday"?
I know this way if speaking it is a peculiarity to this country. There may be some other countries where they do this, but I can't name any specific country. It's something I usually warn overseas visitors or new residents to this country about.
We now have a country that has merged with many other cultures, so I think you will find it is much more ambiguous. These days.if I am issuing an invitation, I am clear about it with a date. This comes from work habits planning education and placements.
In my youth, dinner was usually called tea. My mother invited a Dutch man to her place for tea as a date. He ate dinner beforehand as he expected he was being invited for tea the drink. His English at that time was not very good either.
I'd respond with "Saturday the 3rd, or the 10th?"
If you are ever unsure, ask.
just from experience i'd try my best to avoid confusion
as the sender i'll be like see you next saturday (25th Aug)
or the reciever
thanks see you next saturday (25th Aug)
and for the recorder this/next… is symantecs
next is the one thats next lol after fri…
next = this = coming = sat 25th aug coming…I tend to say "This Saturday" or "Saturday week 10th December" to avoid this potential confusion.
If its wednesday I know for certain when "saturday" is if the person is talking about either a past event (4 days ago) or a future event (in 3 days). And I know for certain when "this saturday" is. Its the same as "saturday". And I know when "saturday next week" is. That's 10 days away. But if they say "next saturday" I'm not sure.
Isn't English a wonderful language when people can be arguing about a commonly used term.
English may have broad origins - but it is also spoken in other cultures which have different customs
I'm remembering time in Germany where I think they might say the time of day as 'half five' to mean four-thirty - I think some US folk may say similarly - with so many different idioms I simply ask for dates to record in my google calendar.
If someone sent out a written invitation stating only 'next Saturday' I would wonder about their communication skills.
But I see now this is not a real problem - as it looks more like a fun-time-waster from someone to create a poll.
No
'See you next Tuesday' - as said by Christopher Pyne with a glint in his eye -
https://www.mamamia.com.au/christopher-pyne-see-you-next-tue…
https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/see-you-next-tuesday/I'd say "When is 'Next Saturday'?"
Then they would give a date that equals Monday.Imagine you are a police sharpshooter. A voice in your ear says "the next person to come out of the bank will be the robber, shoot them", just as a person walks out through the door. You shoot them. The voice in your ear says "no, not this one, they were a hostage, I told you to shoot the next one".
Dictionary meaning of next "1. (of a time) coming immediately after the time of writing or speaking." So theoretically 3 days is correct.
Yes and theoretically communism works…
Honestly one of the greatest threads to come out of this place for a while. C u next Tuesday!
Agree.
Where is the poll option: I will ask for a clarification
As it's such a common occurrence.
The reason there is terminological confusion about days of the week is that they are days of the week. We think of them as belonging to a week. So when we say "last" or "next" its not clear whether we are talking about the day relative to the day it is being talked about in, or the week that it is a member of.
On wednesday is "last monday" two days ago, or the monday that was in last week?
On wednesday "next monday" is clearly the monday that is next, and also the monday that belongs to next week. There is no ambiguity because the next monday after today belongs to next week. But "next saturday" might be referring to the next saturday, 3 days away, or the saturday that belongs to next week, which is 10 days away.
I alway ask "this Saturday or the following?"
Not this Saturday… next Saturday.
@stumo: How about next Tuesday week?