Bird Chirping Keeps Waking Us up

Bit of an odd situation we're dealing with at the moment.

Every single day for the past 3 months we have had a bird come outside our house (could be on the neighbours roof or our roof) and wake us up at 5am with extremely loud chirping. Lasts for a good 10 to 15mins which is enough to wake us up. I don't sleep well during the initial hours of the night due to a health condition so most of my deep sleep is during 3am to 6am.

Any ideas or recommendations on how to deal with this bird? I don't intend on killing it or poisoning it in any way so just wondering if there is a humane way to deal with it. Do the electronic bird deterrents work?

Comments

  • +67

    ear plugs
    .

  • +26

    Shotgun.

    • +3

      What a banger from George Ezra.

    • +82

      Suicide seems extreme

    • +2

      Murica

  • +7

    Secondary glazing for your windows will help cut some noise.

    • +5

      I just changed to double glazing and couldn't tell the difference. I live right next to a busy road.
      Double glazing isn't what it's cracked up to be.

      • +5

        Secondary glazing is different to double glazing.

        • +6

          I've never heard of "secondary glazing" but according to google it's not as good as double glazing.
          I don't know why I've been downvoted, but I'm just sharing my experience.
          Before changing to double glazing, the dB meter app showed an average of 41dB. Afterwards, it averaged 36dB.
          Technically it should have more than halved the sound intensity, but my experience is that it didn't make a perceptible difference.
          Especially when trucks roar by.

          • +1

            @talismansa: Maybe in your home the walls don't insulate sound particularly well…what if you put insulation in the walls?

          • +21

            @talismansa: A drop on 3dB is halving the sound energy.

            You got 5dB - a reduction of between 50% and 75% in sound energy.

            It takes about a 10dB drop for a sound to sound half as loud - but that is different to sound energy.

            The other thing to consider is dBA vs dB. dBA is a "weighted" metric that considers the responsiveness of the human ear to sound, vs dB which is all about sound energy irrespective of whether humans can hear it or not.

          • +2

            @talismansa: That's unfortunate, it was a night and day change for me. I live next to a busy road and cars become inaudible when my windows closed and the loudest of trucks become the faintest of whooshes.

            • @Beanvee: That's interesting. Maybe I got a dud? Or maybe because my glazing is the entire wall? How big are your windows?

              • @talismansa: Do you have aluminium or wood window frames? There is a huge difference between insulation values there

        • +2

          Lol Triple glazing is where it’s at! no joke it’s a real thing, friends living next to a major road got it put in their new build, along with proper wall insulation and difference between window open and closed is friggin amazing.

      • +1

        Double glazing is amazing - but you get what you pay for.

      • talismansa: Were they aluminium, upvc or timber framed? Was foam/filler applied around the gap between the stud/framing and the window framing (ie before the trim was replaced). What's the main style of window (sliding / casement / awning / louvre)?

        Also.. if you don't mind, what was the company?

        I'm looking at options for an upcoming project.
        thanks for your advice (or anyone else).

        • +1

          Aluminium sliding doors with awning side windows. Magic Glass is the company that installed it. They used Sika to glue everything together.

          • @talismansa: Magic Glass should have been able to provide specs on how much the sound should have dropped.

            If you are concerned the seals are faulty/gas leaked.. you could contact them to test it.

            If still concerned.. I believe there are specialists who would be able to properly test if the product matches the claims.. or work out where the sound is getting in (typically they design soundproofing solutions for home theatres/studios etc).. Perhaps find a thread/forum where these types hang out.. may be able to give you advice.. if you are still concerned.

      • My understanding is that in terms of sound reduction, changing a normal window to double glazing is as effective as replacing the window with drywall. That said, making sure your external walls are insulated would also be important/mandatory/more effective in reducing sound.

    • laminated windows.

    • closing the window might help?

  • +40

    Find out what time the bird sleeps and follow that pattern, embrace the chirping.

    • +33

      Find out what time the bird sleeps and go chirp back at it.

      • There are 2 types of people in this world…

        • +7

          No, there are 10 types of people in this world.

          • Those who understand binary notation.
          • Those who do not understand binary notation.
        • +3

          Actually, there are 3. Those that can count and those that can't.

      • +1

        shit on its head while youre at it

    • "embrace the chirping". That's helpful.

      • +1

        Forgive your enemies

    • +1

      Since our street lights got replaced with super bright led lights we get birds chirping all night. They kind of stop later in the day.

  • +32

    Highly recommend you adjust your sleeping pattern instead.

    You said you don't sleep well in the early hours of the night. In that case, if possible, go to bed earlier, then the early hours of the night will begin earlier for you. Your deep sleep will also begin earlier. By 5am, you will have gotten enough sleep.

    I recommend not using symbols (numbers) on a screen to tell the time of day, because their meaning is variable depending on where you live and the time of year. Instead, use the amount of light in the sky to guide your sleeping times.

    Nowadays, I wake up at 4.30am, and this helps me sleep better than I ever have. It's bright enough to read a book outside by 5am.

    • -7

      Or you could try using symbols (musical interment)… 😝

      • +2

        cymbals?
        musical instrument?

        I'm pretty sure you didn't mean 'interment'

        • +5

          Maybe they're hinting at getting the bird interred?

    • +3

      I have health conditions that sound as though I have same problem as OP. Going to bed earlier actually makes it worse for me, just more bad hours. Final result, only properly asleep in the later hours of the typical night. So no matter what time I go to bed, that sleep time stays the same.

      My issue isn't a bird, it's a kid who is always loud and cannot seem to do anything quietly. He is outside my window playing noisily before 6am almost every day.

      • +1

        I have health conditions that sound as though I have same problem as OP. Going to bed earlier actually makes it worse for me, just more bad hours. Final result, only properly asleep in the later hours of the typical night. So no matter what time I go to bed, that sleep time stays the same.

        I think going to bed earlier is not the solution. Waking up earlier is the solution. This forces you to sleep earlier, because your body will be on a different clock.

  • +7

    Install an inflatable tube man.

  • +15

    White noise machine

    • +14

      Bird chirping all night from Spotify, after a month, they'll get used to it and won't be an issue anymore

      • Would that also work with loud snoring?

        • The up and down of snoring is what bothers me most. But you could probably use any sound that you like as white noise pretty much… snore included.. if you can find it in spotify or other platforms ;p

        • +1

          Snorers, who always go to sleep before you do, are actually screaming “I’m having a lovely sleep”.

        • I have been with my husband 16 years and I can't sleep if he isn't snoring away next to me so probably.

    • +3

      Xiaomi air purifier works pretty good for that.

    • Can even play some from your phone or Google home speakers

    • +3

      White noise machine + ear plugs are a godsend for light sleepers like me

    • White noise machines are great (I use one every night) but it didn't work well enough for birds chirping, somehow their sound still penetrates partially through. Luckily for me whatever bird was causing me issues just disappeared.

  • +28

    picture of JV outside your window.

    that should scare it away

    • +12

      Or SlavOz rant on megaphone….

      • +21

        "Birds are a leftist conspiracy to normalise eating insects". ~SlavOz, probably, unironically

      • This will scare away more than just birds. Might be a good thing for OP, though.

  • +5

    Drone strike

  • +6

    Put a snake on the rooftop.

  • +21

    There are worse things to wake up to. Jackhammers, traffic noise, dogs barking, neighbours fighting to name a few. Think yourself lucky.

    • +7

      Or neighbourhood struck by a missile.

      • +10

        Yeah that would be annoying.

  • +17

    Bikies.

    • +9

      Over a dozen comments before the number one solution to all things. The bikies are def. losing profile in the community.

      Protecting citizens from rabid wildlife is the gubmint's job of course, but luckily we have bikies since no-one else chooses to step up for the hard/early morning jobs

      • +5

        And the Solution if that doesn't work?

        More Bikies

        • +4

          Bikies Revving Keeps Waking Us up

          Bit of an odd situation we're dealing with at the moment.

          Every single day for the past 3 months we have had bikies come outside our house (could be on the neighbours driveway or our driveway) and wake us up at 5am with extremely loud revving. Lasts for a good 10 to 15mins which is enough to wake us up. I don't sleep well during the initial hours of the night due to a health condition so most of my deep sleep is during 3am to 6am.

          Any ideas or recommendations on how to deal with these bikies? I don't intend on killing them or poisoning them in any way so just wondering if there is a humane way to deal with them. Do the electronic bikie deterrents work?

          • +2

            @OZKap: Ive been told playing Abba, and Human Nature at loud volumes work.

          • +2

            @OZKap: This is a hard one, Indian Mynas?

            Maybe ask the Police to park an area car outside your house once or twice a week, see if they don't leave?

  • -3

    Nature's gift is keeping me awake. Waaaah waaaah waaaah. Troll post for sure.

    • +1

      Relocate some Indian Miner Birds.

      • +9

        There is no such a thing as "Indian Miner Birds".

        There are noisy miners, which are an aggressive native species. And there are Indian mynas, sometimes spelled mynah, which are an introduced pest species which is even more aggressive. Myna simply means starling. They are two completely different species. Noisy miners suffer from having a vaguely similar appearance and a similar-sounding name to Indian mynas.

        • +16

          Get GordonD over to your place to read out his fun facts. That will put you back to sleep. 😉

        • +2

          There is no such a thing as "Indian Miner Birds".

          Only because they are Myna, not Miner…

          The Indian myna is a medium-sized bird native to the
          Middle East, India and Asia. Indian mynas are brown with
          a glossy black head, neck and upper breast; bright yellow
          bills, eye skin, legs and feet; and an upright posture.
          They are sometimes confused with native noisy miners
          (Manorina melanocephala);

          https://www.daf.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/62066…

        • +8

          Thank you for clearing that up.

          I'm no expert on winged animals, unless doused in Flour, Flavour Enhancer 621, Pepper a few herbs, then pressure cooked for 15 minutes.

          :)

        • +2

          Here's the thing. You said a "miner is a myna."

          Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.

          As someone who is a scientist who studies mynas, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls miners mynahs. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

          If you're saying "miner family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Passeriformes, which includes things from sparrows to starlings to lyrebirds.

          So your reasoning for calling a myna a miner is because random people "call the noisy ones miners?" Let's get starlings and regent bowerbirds in there, then, too.

          Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A myna is a mynah and a member of the Passeriformes family. But that's not what you said. You said a myna is a miner, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the Passeriformes family miners, which means you'd call sparrows, starlings, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.

          It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

          • +1

            @OZKap: Can I ask two bird related questions?

            Have you played Wingspan

            and

            What is your favorite ugly bird ever? and why is it the Bush stone-curlew

            • +1

              @Nalar:

              What is your favorite ugly bird ever?

              There's a bird that regularly turns up in my back yard that I've seriously thought of catching and offering for sale. Because while it is probably the ugliest healthy bird I've ever seen, it would be very very rare. And it might even be better off captive than in the wild. It is a cross between a galah and a little corella. And the mixture of genes didn't turn out very well. Not in appearance or disposition. The corellas attack it, the galahs are afraid of it.

              The ugliest birds I've seen are cockatoos with advanced parrot beak and feather disease. They look terrible. Its a virus that causes their beaks to keep growing until they can't eat, and their feathers to fall out until they can't fly. So either starvation, predators or the cold of winter kills them. I feed them until they feel safe enough I can catch them, and take them to the local vet to be euthenased so they're not passing the virus on, and to put them out of their misery.

          • @OZKap: thanks - good explanation - for which I DGAF

          • @OZKap: This.

            Top marks!

            Not withstanding the fact that it'll get everyone in a flap.

    • +4

      Why is it a troll post? Did you actually read the text? The OP has a condition which makes their sleep pattern mean they get the best sleep in the early hours, which is when the bird starts carrying on.

      • -1

        Sarcasm, as this is a common problem that affects everybody.

  • +1

    I had one that would chirp at midnight for like an hour back in October but it has stopped now. It’ll pass.

    • Cuckoos. On arrival they have to find a mate, as they migrate through annually when the birds they predate are laying eggs.

  • +1

    Scarecrow

  • +3

    you should move. im sure they Chirps because you are invading their territories

  • +5

    if there is a website called birdbargain we will see this post:

    Human Talking Keeps Waking Us up.
    Bit of an odd situation we're dealing with at the moment. Every single day for the past 3 months we have had a bird come outside our house (could be on the neighbours roof or our roof) and wake us up at 5am with extremely loud chirping. Lasts for a good 10 to 15mins which is enough to wake us up. I don't sleep well during the initial hours of the night due to a health condition so most of my deep sleep is during 3am to 6am. Any ideas or recommendations on how to deal with this bird? I don't intend on killing it or poisoning it in any way so just wondering if there is a humane way to deal with it. Do the electronic bird deterrents work?

    (change word bird to human)

    • +3

      I think the website humanbargain is for something very different….

  • Someone might be feeding it. Or it’s just woken up and doing it, we have a noisy minor outside who lives in garden but I don’t even notice it now

    • +1

      noisy minor

      A loud under 18 year old child? One of the neighbors kids perhaps?

      Do you mean a noisy miner?

      • +1

        noisy miner

        A loud underground worker? One of the neighbours is a FIFO perhaps?

        Do you mean…thread/

        • Noisy minors are the worst… Ugh. Little humans practicing to be the best at becoming the most destructive organism alive

  • +10

    Fake Owl for $10

    • +2

      Real owl.

      Or falcon.

    • These can work I tried one. Some birds will see through the trick though, also a good idea to keep moving it, as they will wise up if it never moves.

  • +5

    My neighbors spent thousands cutting down the tree outside their bedroom windows because of annoyance that the louding chirping first thing in the morning was waking them up.

    The loud chirping was because the noisy miners found it a suitable tree to build their nest in, and the loud chirping was their babies demanding their parents feed them. That's how baby birds get fed until they can feed themselves. Whenever they see they see their parents they loudly chirp to show they are strong and healthy and worth feeding. In the case of noisy minors the chicks are cuddled up in the nest, or sit side by side in the tree, and co-ordinate their chirps to make them even louder.

    • +1

      A loud under 18 year old child? One of the neighbors kids perhaps?

      Do you mean noisy miners?

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