Should I Quit My Job

Hi Peeps,

Need some advice please - Currently work for a Govt Department and have been here for almost 2 years and it has come

to the point where I hate what I am doing :-( - Unfortunately no support from management and only stress on KPIs

I have been hitting my KPIs consistently for the last 2years and have no issues with the people whom i work with.

I even applied for an internal role were and got the job, However, my dept head decided as per business needs they will not allow me to - so no point in applying for any internal jobs as they will knock me back

I am flying overseas shortly and will be back in Jan 2023 and thinking of using all my sick leave and then applying for my resignation

with inflation and the economy in a downturn - DO you peeps think I am doing the right thing? or any suggestion would be great

if anyone suggests I join the Bikes gang - yes why not as long as u can pass me their number - happy to do it

Totally miserable in life due to this job

Comments

    • +6

      I'd say it's relative to the job. I quite like my job, it's engaging, I like my team, it pays well and I get to work from home most of the week. I have had significantly worse jobs where I had a clueless boss who I spent more time explaining my job to instead of actually doing it, I was underpaid and working 60 hours a week.

      Would I stay in my job if I won $50m on powerball? No I would not. But "hate" is a strong word to describe something I wouldn't do if I didn't have to.

    • +1

      Nah there's a whole range of job satisfaction levels from love to hate and everything in between.

      Sure, most people aren't professional chocolate tasters or whatever, but plenty of people don't mind their jobs or quite like them.

      I suspect a decent chunk (more than half?) of people would be happier in a different job (if only just because they could enjoy a change) but can't afford the time to search or are scared to take the risk or try.

    • +1

      I disagree. Sure there are things I'd rather be doing than working, but I don't hate my job and still get a lot of satisfaction and pride over my work. If people truly hate their job, it is time to find a new job. Or even learn a new skillset. Life is too short to be miserable Monday-Friday.

  • -1

    Should I Quit My Job

    Yes

  • +4

    Quit but time it like everyone says.

    Jobs market starts to pick up in Feb then slows down closer to Easter. Don't leave unless you have something lined up. In the mean time try to get a voluntary redundancy.

  • +1

    I'd encourage you to read articles/books on what you want from a job. Ask yourself some questions like whether you'd rather take a pay cut for a more meaningful job. Would you be willing to work longer hours? Training for a different industry? etc.

  • +13

    Read through your post, I'm all for pursuing your goals, but in my experience "lashing out" and quitting a job is rarely the right decision.

    I've seen a lot of peers do this - they quit their job, go on a nice holiday, have some time off, and they're miserable again after a few months, or once they've settled into a new role. I really recommend you take the time to figure out what your goals are and plot out how to get there. It usually involves more than just "quitting your job".

    FWIW, it also sounds like you may benefit from seeing a mental health professional to talk through some of the issues you're facing, as (at least in my experience), a lot of what you're describing sounds like it's beyond just your job that's making you unhappy.

    Responding to your specific points (take this as food for thought, as opposed to a recommendation one way or another)

    I have been hitting my KPIs consistently for the last 2years and have no issues with the people whom i work with.

    That sounds great - what are you actually looking for? As in, what is your end goal here, are you happy in your current role moving forward, do you want a promotion…etc.? Like what you're describing sounds quite normal.

    Totally miserable in life due to this job

    What makes you say that it's due to your current job? What about your job actually makes it miserable? List out the things that you don't like so that you can put pen to paper and either try to action change, or know what to avoid when looking for future jobs.

  • -1

    Lol if it’s APS and they see this post you’ll have bigger problems

    • +5

      There doesn't seem to be any information in the post that could tie it down to any particular role, person, or even department

    • what they gonna do, fire op?

      • Could ruin their life with a aps investigation and or wanting

  • +6

    Leave. No job is worth the stress and mental health issues.

    I left a pretty well paying job because of extreme stress and had to spend a decent coin on medications for a condition that I had developed due to the stress that place gave me.

    For the last two years have worked at a salary that was much less than what I was earning but much less stress and I couldn't be happier.

    • +3

      Were you a gourd farmer?

      • +2

        I wish I was but sadly only worked in education in a senior leadership role.

      • +3

        Looks like he’s got something against vegetables :p

  • If you want play it smart find a new job and start it while on leave with your current employer. See if if you like new place and if don't just go back, it's impossible to understand whether you'd like new place or not during the interview.

  • +1

    I love my job, I'm unemployed :)

  • +1

    Am kinda in similar situation. My job is very simple and outdoors and it pays well. Its not stressful (but some parts can be personally frustrating constantly to the point where it bothers me alot). It’s just very repetitive, boring and dull.

    I want to find something more meaningful. Don’t know where to start.

  • I even applied for an internal role were and got the job, However, my dept head decided as per business needs they will not allow me to - so no point in applying for any internal jobs as they will knock me back

    Pretty sure this is illegal.in Govt. Else just threaten to quit and re-apply for the role.

    TBH i didn't even know govt had KPI's, if anything not hitting targets is their target.

    I went from a govt department which was cushy but boring as hell and thought, welp this is me for the rest of my life. Shifted jobs to a pseudo govt entity (authority) and my job satisfaction has gone through the roof. Better culture to the point where staff actively hang out with each other during and after work. Better pay (50% payrise overnight). And greater job satisfaction.

    Honestly if it's something you're doing everday you may as well enjoy it.

    • +1

      Not illegal. Depending on the position they may have to agree to release you from your current role. Most will do it because of that don't you'll be as unhappy as (profanity).

    • It was most likely an EOI (expression of interest) role which required your substantive manager to approve releasing you from your substantive role.

      source: was in NSW govt for a decade.

      • Yeah that did cross my mind and would be the exception. Its happened to me before.
        Fair point

  • +1

    Currently work for a Govt Department

    Yes.

  • +3

    Keep a journal of every little and big shitty thing your idiot DH does with the goal of getting them, removed/transferred, disciplined, or fired (unlikely but hey).
    You already hate your job, because of the DH, and they denied your transfer? So nothing to lose.
    If your plan turns to crap who cares, you had some fun and you were planning on leaving anyway.

    • If I was a govt minister or high up public servant, I would LOVE to have a whistleblower slip me the dirt on corrupt or incompetent managers making their employees miserable and/or wasting taxpayer funds.

      • +1

        Whistleblowers always get the arse.

  • Yes theres heaps of work out there but are those jobs better than your current position.

    Sometimes those organisations crying out for workers cant get workers for a reason. Those reasons, could be no flexibility, bad managers, isolated or away from family, poor pay and conditions (some farm and vege picking jobs), abusive customers abusive employers.

    Dont just resign dont just apply for other jobs research them even quietly speak to employees at that business because the grass is not always greener.

    I can get a better paying job elsewhere but ive got very good conditions where i am and flexibility and good boss and co-workers mean a lot.

  • +3

    I agree with others who have suggested you talk to someone in HR about not being approved to take the other job. Also have a chat to the head of the other department, is the vacancy still there, hypothetically, if you applied when not a member of the state/federal govt already, would you hypothetically be offered the job?

    Are you able to compartmentalise your life to fit your current situation? As @Chong and others have suggested, acknowledge and accept your job as purely a way to pay your mortgage, build your super, be eligible for long service leave etc Look at it purely as a way to get money and find your joy elsewhere.

    Write down (I personally find that pen and paper is really good for these types of exercises) the things you'd love doing if you: had time, could be motivated, knew where to go, if you organised yourself etc. Figure out which are realistic/doable. Find out how. Go do it. If you love it, do it again and again. Have this as something to look forward to when doing the drudgery of work. Have this to look forward to knowing that your salary helps/enables you to do this. :)

    Make an appointment to see your works EAP. They are completely confidential. They send an invoice to the boss saying X services were used and you owe us this much. They are never told the names or anything about their employees who used it. Work through the pros and cons of staying/leaving your job. Get them to help you identify activities that might spark a passion in you. Talk about other problems you have unrelated to work. Your talks with the EAP don't have to be work related.

    Let us know what you decide.

    Mel :)

  • Wow! I am in a similar dilemma. Stick with what is comfortable or bet all-in on myself and accept a crappy paying job but a job that has meaning and follows my interests.

  • +1

    Honestly, life is too short to be spending so much time in something that makes you miserable for an extended period of time. Sure, jobs have their downsides, however the feeling of dreading Monday is awful.

    Having recently been in this situation, the hardest, and most difficult part, was coming to the decision to leave. The role on paper was everything I wanted, the reality was very different. I liked the work, but the job was making me miserable, and was impacting every aspect of my life.

    Once the decision was made that I was leaving, a weight lifted off my shoulders, and it was a matter of finding the next opportunity. I was in the fortunate position to be able to take as long as I needed off, and have ended up exactly where I wanted to be. That said, the time to decompress and get back to where, and who, I wanted to be was invaluable.

    If you are miserable, there’s no point in staying. The only thing worse than being miserable and unhappy with life is being that way for another day.

    The market is about as good as it will get from an employee shortage perspective. Give yourself time over the Christmas break to get your head together, figure out the type of role you want to pursue, update your resume, and figure out what else you need to do to get there.

  • Department of health?

  • Well you could start slacking on your KPIs a little. That should convince your boss to let you move internally. If they ask what's happening tell them if was their choice to retain you as per "business needs".

    • I'd be careful, it may also convince said boss to put in a negative recommendation for the job switch.

      I think threre's always benefit in being open and honest about how you feel about your work. OP have you discussed the situation with your boss? Explain how unhappy you are and that you really need a change? A good boss won't hold you on a job you hate for their own benefit, that's the best way to lose the person altogether rather than retaining in a different department. If they don't do that… they're a bad boss, more motivation to switch - put some time aside for your job search while retaining an acceptable level of quality for your current duties.

  • QUIT.

    I say take a chance on better opportunities. You only have one lifetime. It'll force you to hustle to survive, and a more resilient/resourceful person you'll become.

    People who are telling you to stay or wait are the same ones who will stay at their same job until they retire or get fired. This is Australia, you aren't going to starve to death. Worst, you'll have to relocate to a new state or city, take another sucky job, or you'll just end up on Centrelink like half the Ozb population. There will always be an excuse not to (need another job lined up, gotta find the right time, family needs it, things getting more expensive, blah blah blah). If you're going to do it, just fkn do it.

    Do or do not, there is no try - Yoda

  • With only 2 months of savings, find a job first and then quit else you might struggle when 2 months are up and try to get any role with any pay just to stay afloat.
    Centrelink will also take time to start paying money.
    Utilize most of your sick leaves on return and during that time start applying for jobs (have spare of 4-5 sick leaves for interview & prep as it may take time for interviewers to get back to you)
    With an existing job, you are in a better position to negotiate money for your future role too.

    All the best. I fully support that one should be happy in the work you do.

  • +2

    Maybe change your partner first and see if that makes your days better. If that doesn’t work you can always change the job. Just wanted to suggest a different angle because everything else was already covered in the comments. Thinking outside the box and such.

  • As some have shared, you may have mental health issues more than job dissatisfaction. Seek some therapy, once a week for 10 weeks and then report back.

    • Worth a try

  • +3

    Some are ungrateful, some complain, some can't get government jobs, others obstinate their beliefs of entitlement victim down play for sympathy.

    Humans the worst of the worst.

  • Stress on KPI's from government jobs? Which department is this? Most just sit back and enjoy the ride until they move on to another government job.

  • +2

    As someone who has worked in government for 10 years, I'll say this:
    Have there been days I've wanted to quit? Yes.
    Have there been days I've done the same thing day in day out for months? Yes.
    Have there been days I've wanted to go lash out at staff? Yes.

    Why don't I quit?
    First and foremost, job security. If the last 3 years have taught me anything, I'm grateful to have a job that frankly, I get paid well for doing. I could have been in a much worse position like other people and lost my job.
    The benefits. Highest paid super, flex leave, work/life balance.

    I mean ultimately you have to do what's right for you, but if I were you, I'd stick with it and see if you can't transfer internally, even if temporarily, to get a fresh perspective on things. Build your resume, apply for jobs internally, even if EOI's.

    • A person has to be insane to quit a unionized public sector job (unless they are exchanging it for another government job). Government jobs give you the financial security to pay off a mortgage.

      If you are unhappy with your current job, the likelihood is you would be unhappy with another job. Unhappiness is in the brain. No matter where you try to escape to, the unhappiness follows. You need a "happy pill".

      • Absolutely, agree 100%. I can definitely say I had underlying issues and now that I've started addressing those, I have found my day to day at work a lot better too.
        It's not perfect, but it sure could be a lot worse. Which is also why I've appreciated being in the public service a lot more.

        And yeah like I said, the security the job gives you is like nothing else.

  • Yes quit your job

  • In a government job, if you are successful in getting a higher paid job then they must let you go! However sideways move they can decline, based on how busy the department is. If I were you keep an eye out for similar situations and if you see others having the opportunity to move sideways then go to HR and claim discrimination even join the union!

  • I would recommend taking a good break and thinking about what you want to do first. Be that annual leave, annual leave at half pay, long service leave or leave without pay generally.

    If you have been hitting your KPIs etc, make sure you take a copy of your performance plan that shows you have been doing well.

    If you think your current boss has been sabotaging your efforts and won't give you a good reference, consider making a Freedom of Information request to see what they have said about you if they have been a referee.

    Consider being straight up with your boss, and letting them know you are considering moving on as the lack of progression is frustrating. Is there anything they can do, as you are strongly considering leaving the organisation.

    Use your Employee Assistance Program (EAP) and talk through your options. Chat with any mentors you may have in your workplace.

    Get your skills up to date with any free courses. Explore your options.

    Think about what you find meaningful in life.. is your job the most important thing, or does a stable government job offer you the opportunity to try something creative/side project in your personal life as you have more flexibility? Works for some people.

    Depending on where in government you are, there may be preferential hiring policies where jobs are advertised to internal applicants first.
    It may be worth applying for other government roles ongoing (not secondments that can be knocked back), as opposed to just quitting outright. Even if you are sure you don't want to stay in government, getting another job whilst you still have one is probably the way to go.

    If you are feeling flat, don't love what you are doing, etc, taking a break first will probably increase your chances of landing something good. If you walk into a job interview feeling flat it often shows.Take annual leave, take a breath, and then consider the next step.

    Either way, burning your bridges by walking out, taking annual leave and exhausting your sick leave probably won't be well received by someone who you may need to give you a reference.

  • +1

    Why do people feel they have a right to use up sick leave when they are dissatisfied rather than actually sick?

    • -2

      when you are dissatisfied you are actually mentally unwell

      • +1

        Dissatisfaction is not a mental illness

        • It's called personal leave now, not sick leave

          • @tikei: Personal/carer’s leave:
            - if they are unfit for work because of their own personal illness or injury (including pregnancy-related illness), or
            - to provide care or support to a member of their immediate family or household, because of a personal illness, injury or unexpected emergency affecting the member. A member of the employee’s immediate family means a spouse (or former spouse), de facto partner (or former de factor partner), child, parent, grandparent, grandchild or sibling of an employee; or a child, parent, grandparent, grandchild or sibling of the employee’s spouse or de facto partner (or former spouse or de facto partner).

    • Cause some people treat it was 'day off' instead of 'sick' day.

      But I don't think it's mentally healthy to hate your job for weeks on end.

    • Mental health is important and if people are feeling overwhelming stress/mental exhaustion then you are unwell.

    • Ive always viewed sick leave as an insurance policy.

  • OP you have the option of quitting your tenured position and taking the secondment.
    Alternatively apply for permanent roles.

  • Hey op, have you looked at your income protection insurance on your super?

    Sounds like a mental health thing to me. Especially being blocked from advancement. Thats a no go, and sounds like has made you feel trapped in a poo hole forever.

    Speak to a GP. Apply for income protection (as it takes a while to kick in). GP will need to sign it. Use your sick leave for at least 30 days (thats normally the minimum time for income protection to apply). After that you will need to take leave without pay. This means you still have a job to come back to (if you decide to do that ) while on LWOP.

    Will give you some time (up to 3 years i think) at 75% pay to consider your options, perhaps look for something else. Basically, in a govy job ypu have LOTS of options no one tells you about. BUT…

    Govy jobs have no incentives/ reward model. Without instrinsic reward, it's an innate depression machine. Once income protection is sorted, with a guaranteed 75%, meet with your line manager and talk straight.

    I perform my job perfectly, but this job is killing me and unfullfilling. I need a change, im either advancing and moving to something new (and you get to keep my skill set), or I need to find something else etc.

    You've got a few options…dont stress.

  • No job should be worth your health

    Quit ASAP

  • +2

    Hey man, I can relate to your situation.

    Another suggestion is to pay a visit to other country (India can be a good one)

    See how the local live there. It did made me more appreciate what we have in Australia.

    All the best man! Sounds like a change is needed, but don't resign until a new job is there, you will still need a good reference from your current boss though so need to play nice.

  • +1

    I've worked in federal and state government, not for profit and the corporate world.
    Government is the least stressful, least demanding of all three.
    It's not necessarily the most fulfilling though.
    It's also full of drama as staff have complaints about everything and problem staff are shifted around rather than dispatched.
    Why is the OP not looking at a new external job?
    Internal is a waste of time if you are unhappy - get out of the government and shift focus to self-sustaining commercial enterprise.

  • "to the point where I hate what I am doing :-("

    Answer: Yes, life is too short to spend persistently unhappy.

    • Its too short to have to set your alarm clock period. Whats the alternative? playing frisbee?

  • I did this earlier this year. Quit without having the next thing lined up - took me 3 months to get a new job though - luckily i was able to float along and did some odd casual jobs in between - courier work and some labouring… not enough to cover the bills but at least not fully going backwards. It was actually fun to do something different/mental break.. on my days off I went surfing and doing odd jobs around the house. It gave me time to consider my next move and interview around.. Now I work for the best company I've ever worked at :)
    (I've worked 2 govt roles too.. they are soul destroying. Find a good private company that respects who you are)

  • +1

    If you're not happy with your job you can just change. I would first get another job before quitting.

  • You are a fool being managed-out by your manager and you don't even know it.
    Quit as it will not improve.
    Your manager wants you to quit and it is silly to continue.

  • Is it the management and KPI's the only issue or is there other factors why you hate the job?

    First suggestion is internal movement but that seems like a hard stop there, I'd keep pushing for other internal roles as the first option, don't give up there yet.

    Only after you've 100% exhausted all internal options then go ahead and quit but only after you've got another role lined up.

  • +1

    It is preferable to leave with a job lined up or direction where you wanna go.

    But if you hate your job (and already tried applying for other roles), just quit - I left once with no job (I assume you have some savings).

    It was a breezy 2 month break at first…then I started panicking about my fruitless job search and terrible interviewing skills. But it still was not as stressful as the job I was in!

    It was 6 month gap in my resume, I had the savings to last through it.

  • Life is short and if you are truly miserable then make the move as soon as you can and don't look back.

    The part about your current boss blocking your successful job application is weird given you have been there 2 years…. Might be too late but talk to the hiring manager who gave you the new job and see if you will still get it if you resign from your current role and start the new one after your holiday as a new employee. You don't ask.. You won't get… And the worst they can say is no and you are still going to leave any way so no change to your position from having the conversation.

    Lastly if its not too late you might like to discuss your current boss blocking your new role within the organisation with HR. It seems you are past your probation period so to me it would seem illegal for your boss to have any say in a job elsewhere within the organisation unless it was a secondment?

  • Secure job? Stay and save every cent. EVERY CENT/ i.e. Think how to reduce costs, make and take food to work you make yourself to save money instead of wasting time in front of the TV, carpool to work or with people who work near you, downgrade or sell the car to get rid of yearly rego costs and Uber or pushbike… only ever buy things that save you money in the long run, like an electric bike, bread machine, hair clippers - that soon pay for themselves.

    Keep and sit and think about every receipt, every item, how to reduce or eliminate that expense. Use this and the future plan as "revenge" … motivation to bear the job to eventually become financially free. Save, save, save. Think how to become self employed, or even better, produce (mostly) passive income.

    e.g. Much smaller deposits get rural property loans. Renovate them on weekends or pay someone to do it fast in a week or two so you get a tenant in quicker paying rent. Redo the bathroom, kitchen, then paint, fit an aircon - maybe a carport. Then increase the rent to equal or more than the loan repayments (putting more deposit in if necessary, because over 20% deposit also gets rid of the cost of mortgage insurance).

    Then save, don't spend, the rent profit, acting like it doesn't exist, into another account - to save to buy the next one, and the next. After 10x rentals are spilling into your bank account each each week, do whatever you like. Get a higher paying job and buy more, or sell some or all to buy in a skyrocketing city area, or just keep them and quit - spending less $ every week than comes in, so your income only ever grows for the rest of your life while sitting on a beach.

    Meanwhile search for other government jobs if need be… easier to switch between them. Only if higher pay, promotions available, etc. Just don't do what most people do, become mice in the rat race where they spend, spend, live hand-to-mouth. Go without (most) Friday partying for a few/several years, then break free of the rat race while all the people who dissed you are still buying dumb expensive car and other toys to impress other people who couldn't care less anyway.

  • I would speak with HR regarding role blocking and why you cannot be promoted or even more sideways. If you're planning to quit and IMO you should to save your sanity, speak with HR first to see why you're getting job blocked, you're not gonna lose either way since you're maybe planning in quitting.

    It seems you have a problem with management, that's more evident with government roles. My 2 mates in gov roles say the same thing, management sucks.

  • Get out. Life is too short. I got out some months ago. Still uncertain but I'm enjoying the time

  • Quit? Yes
    Right now? No
    Like others have said, look for a job and only resign once you have secured an offer. Use your leave hours for interviews. Brush up on your resume now and start applying. You can't afford not to be working when you mentioned you can sustain for 2 months.

    Best of luck.

  • This job appears to be sucking the life out of you. Just line up a couple of offers and quit it. You'll be glad you did.

  • you know how this works, only after you have a better option, they will do something

    or you can go poker face, and behave like you do have a better option, but be ready to quit then :)

  • it's your life. $$$, environment, work experience, pick one or all three.
    if none of them make you tick, jump ship, reskill.
    do whatever you want, especially if you have no dependents.

  • +1

    … got the job, However, my dept head decided as per business needs they will not allow me to

    This is a major red flag, people develop and change all the time. Good leaders encourage rather than impede growth within the organisation. Furthermore if the place falls over if an individual were to leave then management aren't doing their job. I would have taken a collaborative approach e.g. Offer X months to help train a replacement before transitioning to the other department. Failing that I'd be looking elsewhere if all they want to do is pigeon hole you in the current role.

  • If you are in a technical role, market is very good atm. Your plan is good.

    Use your leave up, its yours to use. Loyalty to a company has no value nowadays in most cases so feel free to mentally switch off. Part of your frustration is getting too invested in the work at a place nobody cares about your priorities.

    About being bored - don't expect that to change much though. You'll find similar frustrations in most companies, unless you go into the startup scene maybe, which is risky with the iffy economy atm.

    You'll especially find the frustrating factors again and again if you stay in govt sectors where ways of working don't evolve much, leaders are too busy pretending to look busy, bs politics, and def don't get excited about equal opportunity to move up if that applies to you (just like most big corps - leadership is a white male club in most parts of govt - just need eyeballs to see it, even if nobody says it). So manage your expectations.

  • sometimes you need to burn the boats. if you're the kind of person that only makes life changes when you don't have a plan b then go for it - you'll make it happen. but if feel like you're going to slide into a rut, maybe seek some help.

  • Leave.

    Life is too short, and the concept of using all your sick leave to manipulate a bigger payout suggests the cultural ship has sailed. Time to move on…

  • No.

    A government job is hard to come by and can set you up for life.

    Hang in there. Do some self help courses and therapy with a psychologist.

    It's often something in ourselves that needs fine tuning and once we realise that, any problems at work seem so insignificant that you will breeze through most days and even enjoy them.

  • +1

    We're in a recession, it's bad out there.

  • +1

    Suggest to stick at the job, just have a low standard in looking for a new one. Go for jobs you really want, as well as those you are OK with to increase chance of leaving quickly.

    Do not use all your sick leave unless you are sick - this may affect your reputation. Maintain work relationships as best able with referees, even after securing a jew role.

  • +1

    Be thankful that you have a secure job. You'll be more miserable with income insecurity.

  • My Mum worked for the government for over 45 years. It gets rough, you might get bullied, overworked.
    One thing you will never get is laid off or underpaid.

  • Hi guys,

    Thanks for your valuable advice out there - feels like 2023 is a disaster even b4 it begins . Anyway hopefully something should change in the future . But with my bad luck - nothing happens 😣 anyway hope everyone has good Xmas and new years 😊. Tc

  • Hi Guys ,

    Hope everyone had a good Chrissy and new year's break - b4 diving back to usual mundane

    Just a quick update - Spoke with my Manager b4 went on holiday - They have come back to me asking if u want to work compressed hours without any pay cut or less reduced hours - still not yet final in the paperwork

    Thinking compressed hours - Mon to Thursday with a Friday being a perm off and thinking of doing a course or something to keep myself busy or reduced hours with a pay cut which will be a huge burden in terms of mortgage payments with economy taking a massive hit

    Any thoughts would be appreaciated :-)

    • What end up happening? Did you quit? I feel like I'm in the same position…..

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