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The 4090s on release day got 300$ off due to coupons! Not sure why you say that. And they were not price jacked. Over 40 Gigabyte cards flew off the shelves the same day.
They do sometimes when there's a Zip/APT coupon and they either didn't know or forgot to price jack, but that's about it.
Waiting for AIB cards personally. Thanks though, OP.
noticed that most AIB cards don't seem to come with USB-C, not sure why though :(
What's AIB cards?
"Add In Board", cards that aren't the reference design from Nvidia or AMD
Such a weird naming scheme.
I would prefer the reference AMD design over AIB cards. I don't have 4 PCIe slots to sacrifice to the CPU.
This. Unfortunately the AIBs are going to slap the same oversized cooler design from the Nvidia 4000 series line up over here.
AIB cards have bigger dimensions and some may need 3x 8pin power. If you don't plan to OC these and run them stock, the reference design is the best with smallest footprint (fits in most ITX cases since it's only 287mm in length).
This is the normal price
What a difference a year makes when this is RRP.
I was convinced for at least a month I was going to buy this but reviews are very ubderwhelming
I am not sure what people were expecting. AMD officially said it's competing with a 4080. Anyway it's hard getting hold of one because they are currently all sold out, including this one.
AMD officially said it's competing with a 4080.
They did a ~45 minute launch event/livestream on their own YouTube channel where they compared it to a 6950 XT. From that data it could be extrapolated that the performance would be within 10-15% of a 4090 and they released various slides which supported this.
Then in a PC World video interview they mentioned that it would be competing against the 4080 even though everything else they had shown us suggested otherwise.
Doesn't sound too official when they lied/misrepresented the performance a bunch of times through their own official channels and hid the truth in a random video.
The only places where performance was overestimated were from 3rd party sites such as TechPowerUp, with their own calculations showing the 10-15% of a 4090, and not AMD's official documentation. Additionally YouTubers such as Gamer Meld and LTT were hyping it up to get more clicks. Unfortunately people chose to believe them and then feel disappointed. Unfortunately you can tell those people year of year, I told you so but they will keep doing it.
@shellshocked: Its the same with every launch. I can count on one hand the amount of card launches where people haven't been disappointed that it hasn't met the hype.
Also as per every launch, people will be saying how poor the new cards are compared to a discounted previous generation cards.
I really dont see the problem when you compare RRP of these cards. The new AMD cards are quite decent. The sticking point is that I cant stomach paying over $1k for a videocard. Its going to take me time to used to that.
The only places where performance was overestimated were from 3rd party sites such as TechPowerUp
What about the official AMD launch event/livestream and all the slides they released?
Why are we not seeing anywhere near that kind of performance?
@shellshocked: AMD's own messaging stated that there would be a 50% uplift over the 6950X, and AMD had built up a reputation for not exaggerating their figures - and even if they hadn't it's not wrong for people to hold a company to their own word.
The current (optimistic) thinking is that driver bugs that AMD expected to be resolved by launch are holding back performance and reportedly AMD's driver team are being made to work over the holiday period. It'd be silly to buy a card at launch expecting 10%+ gains in performance via driver update though.
LOL of course they lied you doofus - you have to wait for the youtube and internet reviewer community to release THEIR results before you buy something.
AMD is a multibillion dollar company which relies on meeting deadlines and sales targets to generate revenue for investors, do you honestly think they won't e-stat and fudge up the metrics to market the product better?
You, as a consumer, should KNOW that people will do this sort of stuff - otherwise you are being ignorant to human nature.
Either Way, I'm pretty sure the XTX is cheaper than the 'cheap' 4080s and gives more performance, overall - but it cannot take on the 4090.. ofcourse not..
@BargainHunterJohnnyB: I don't know why you think it was a deliberate lie to get sales when there were no pre-orders and orders only opened after the reviews were out?..
@OzViper: Same reason that AMD has that cool looking logo and the red/black theme lookin all extreme, etc - to make themselves look good, why else?
Do you think that everybody is going to check up on the exact performance and issues with bugs, etc? Nope, only some people.
Everybody sorta knows that you can't just trust what you see or hear, you have to find alternative methods to ascertain information.
In their own launch event they said 50 to 70% above 6950xt, reality is about 35% and a lot of inconsistent results and most importantly for me is it is horrible for VR conpared to 4080.
Do you actually believe what apple, AMD, intel, or nVidia say in those marketing-gimmick-ploy events? You have to be stupid if you don't assume they are lying to make themselves look good…
It's like the prices of these cards - do you HONESTLY think they are worth nearly 2k - or are they just praying on a certain demographic?
The whole memory/GPU/CPU industry is negatively polarized (and that's fine) - what I mean by that is they'll take a 'perfectly fine' chip and out of jealousy sabotage it to sell it to you as a cheaper alternative.
@BargainHunterJohnnyB: AMDs past launch events were pretty close to reality so they had more trust than other tech companies, after this release they have lost what was left of their credibility
@Casomme: Well yeah they had trust when they could afford to give us trust - obviously something didn't go as intended and they had to 'fudge it up'.
I don't get it either way, the 7900xtx is a great card and is cheaper than the nVidia 4080, which is the only reason anybody would buy AMD over nVidia - i.e., the $$/lower cost.
@BargainHunterJohnnyB: They definitely lost all trust they had.
Its a great card but is underwhelming and not good value compared to current prices on past gen. I mean I even saw a few 4080s for 1999. That is probably a better buy then the xtx $1789 and the 4080 value sucks.
@Casomme: Its like apple and their m1 pro max line up or whatever - they made it look as if they were gonna beat the 3080 or 3090 laptops, which didn't happen, except with some niche apps native to apple.
That doesn't mean that the m1 max pro is not 'good'.. in fact as a whole package I'd prefer it top any windows laptop unless I was serious about gaming.
What makes it bad for VR?
@someone2040: Doesnt perform too well compared to 4080
https://babeltechreviews.com/hellhound-rx-7900-xtx-vs-rtx-40…
@Casomme: Thanks, didn't realise the VR review had come out.
Those are pretty disappointing numbers given VR doesn't have any ray tracing or anything.
I was considering maybe a 7900XT once the price drops a bit, but nVidia as always just ends up being the safe more expensive bet in particular when it comes to VR.
Actually they said 'UP TO" in the launch material.
I am not sure what people were expecting
blame the hype videos. "AMD MULTICHIP DESIGN, GONNA PULL A RYZEN ON NVIDA"
Its almost as if people forget 2 years ago AMD had pretty much been completely sidelined in the GPU market.
My problem is the 4080 is terrible value, AMD can't release a card close the performance of a 4080 that's marginally cheaper and call it a day. Since it's so close I'd rather pay an extra 200 for a 4080, have all the productivity and gaming features plus stable driver support.
AMD also said it's 1.5-1.7x times faster than the 6950 xt, but it turned out it's actually 1.35-1.4x lol.
I intend to grab a 7900 XTX, but not a stock model. From what I've heard the coil whine is absolute shite' on the AMD reference model, so I'd suspect the same here.
If you're looking at something for a similar price, I'd absolutely recommend holding out for the Hellhound to come back in stock (Only $10 more): https://www.pccasegear.com/products/60401/powercolor-radeon-…
This is also primary concern over here. Coil whine is the pits of existence when gaming
I would recommend holding in general at the moment. Some early AIB reviews have indicated that the 3 power connector models may be able to gain over 10%~ via OC/UV
The scores and prices are in for the rx 7900s. Sadly the performance was 10-15% off AMDs hopes and dreams.
| Chipset | Avg FPS (1440p) | Avg FPS (4k) | Avg FPS (3k) | Recent Bargain | $ per frame (3k) | Date | Ozb Node |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nvidia RTX 4090 | 210 | 142 | 176 | $2,799 | $15.90 | 13/10/2022 | 730262 |
| Radeon RX 7900 XTX | 181 | 113 | 147 | $1,789 | $12.17 | 14/12/2022 | 745123 |
| Nvidia RTX 4080 16GB | 180 | 109 | 145 | $1,999 | $13.83 | 25/11/2022 | 740932 |
| Radeon RX 7900 XT | 158 | 94 | 126 | $1,619 | $12.85 | 14/12/2022 | 745067 |
| Nvidia RTX 3090 Ti | 149 | 91 | 120 | $1,753 | $14.61 | 21/9/2022 | 726056 |
| Nvidia RTX 3090 | 138 | 82 | 110 | $1,400 | $12.73 | 28/9/2022 | 727312 |
| Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti | 134 | 80 | 107 | $1,199 | $11.21 | 16/9/2022 | 725115 |
| Radeon RX 6900 XT | 137 | 76 | 107 | $1,029 | $9.66 | 10/8/2022 | 717983 |
| Nvidia RTX 3080 12GB | 131 | 76 | 104 | $999 | $9.65 | 21/9/2022 | 726115 |
| Radeon RX 6800 XT | 129 | 70 | 100 | $799 | $8.03 | 22/7/2022 | 714597 |
| Nvidia RTX 3080 10GB | 123 | 72 | 98 | $999 | $10.25 | 21/9/2022 | 726002 |
| Radeon RX 6800 | 114 | 62 | 88 | $749 | $8.51 | 26/9/2022 | 739952 |
| Nvidia RTX 3070 Ti | 104 | 58 | 81 | $739 | $9.12 | 8/10/2022 | 729128 |
| Nvidia RTX 3070 | 97 | 54 | 76 | $699 | $9.26 | 29/7/2022 | 715920 |
| Radeon RX 6700 XT | 92 | 48 | 70 | $595 | $8.50 | 25/9/2022 | 726687 |
| Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti | 88 | 49 | 69 | $581 | $8.48 | 22/10/2022 | 732141 |
| Nvidia RTX 3060 12GB | 67 | 36 | 52 | $399 | $7.75 | 6/12/2022 | 743624 |
| Radeon RX 6600 XT | 69 | 34 | 52 | $359 | $6.97 | 23/8/2022 | 720597 |
| Radeon RX 6600 | 60 | 29 | 45 | $299 | $6.72 | 15/11/2022 | 736985 |
| Nvidia RTX 3050 | 49 | 26 | 38 | $343 | $9.15 | 26/10/2022 | 732556 |
All FPS exclude RT and DLSS.
From Hardward Unboxed 12/13/16 game average.
Exclude Afterpay Day/Zip/Latitude deals. Ebay+, Amazon Prime ok. Excludes suss or low stock offers.
Manually collated, errors and ommisions entirely possible.
Upvote for the table!!
Offers from RTX 3070 and above looking pretty old these days. Hard to get bargains on them, afaict.
not a fan of any，but the Table It seems that the lowest price in history is named “Recent Bargain” to compare the RRP price of the new Graphic card
All FPS exclude RT and DLSS.
Which really makes the AMD seem poor value.
Yeah well it depends, DXR performance seems OK but when compared to RTX featured games it gets nasty and AMD ends up being almost half the speed of NVIDIA's 4080. Bit disappointing given the 4080 apparently is going to drop below the 7900XTX AIB price very soon.
At which point AMD will most probably drop their price too… so I really can't see the 4080 hitting price parity, except perhaps fleetingly.
Ray tracing isn't a deal breaker for a lot of people (me included). I pre-ordered a 2080FE thinking it (ray-tracing) was going to be a game changer, and it hasn't been. It might be in another 3-4 years, but by then mid-range cards will be able to run it fine.
Biggest reason for me to stick to nvidia is VR streaming (virtual-desktop playing full vr games on oculus quest). NVenc is significantly faster for encoding. I haven't tested it on an AMD gpu, but everything I've read is that an nvidia gpu is basically required.
Its the entire package and the fact that the future is unknown.
I've had my 1080 for 6 years and I would rather put money into potential compared to AMD that only offers similar performance and nothing else.
@samfisher5986: The potential will come with future cards, not current cards.
AMD offers basically the same RT performance per dollar, but better non-ray tracing. DLSS and FSR is quite similar, with FSR 3 upcoming to bring entire frame generation.
There are reasons to pay the Nvidia tax, but these aren't it.
@filmer: Basically same RT performance in DXR light RT games that just have a few puddles with RT.
https://overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/amd_radeon_rx_7…
@samfisher5986: This is not the whole picture. Power efficiency, etc. makes this a lot more than just $/frame. But the biggest sway for all of these is brand image and just timing. Where are the sales, and what is in stock.
@ATangk: from the reviewers i saw, the AMD 7000 power efficiency is much worse than nvidia's 4000… so…
Just give it a month or two and it will make a price correction like 7000-series CPU. The 7900 XTX is not bad but has small compromises here and there which adds up. While some of the performance is probably going to improve with driver optimisation, I don't think 'new customers' are going to put their hopes up for this (because it is not guaranteed).
thanks for putting this together.
i think the perception of weak driver support and the 'on par' performance to the 4080 will drive most people to pick the launched/unlaunched 4080.
the 100W idle issue is another one. It felt like the story is going back to the R9 290 vs 1080 series again imo.
I can't believe the 3060 ended up being the value proposition after all (at least according to this table).
Well, at bargain prices, it's good. But it's hard to get a bargain, atm. At non-bargain prices, ymmv.
My 3060/i7 gaming laptop is perfect, even as a 'desktop' being connected to an external monitor.
Honestly, a 6800 XT is such a good value proposition atm… If it drops much further it's a no-brainer!
Think I am going to stick with mine until some price drops. Or next gen!
That RX 6800 XT bargain for $800 seems like an anomaly now. I just googled, can't get it anywhere near that atm.
sold out, you can add the product to cart but when you attempt to checkout it notifies you that the product is sold out.
Yeah looks like LAUNCH stock was shocking. BUT there will be more in January, just in time for inflation :)
wait for 4080 price drop in Jan… then the cost/performance will look much better
People have been saying “wait for x” for a whole year now, with increasingly diminishing results
Probably including some who sold their 2080tis for a happy meal after the 30 series announcement….
I don't know if AMD has enough stock available to get NVIDIA jumping so soon on a cut.
this is missing tech comapre to gforce though? no ray tracing and other stuff?
It doesn't have DLSS (which is nvidia tech). The AMD version is called FSR and it requires dev's to implement it, when many haven't.
AMD can do ray tracing, they just do it badly (currently).
It seems most the models Asus/gigabyte etc are showing stock reference cards on the PC part websites for their models, does this mean they are selling reference cards under their own brand, or they just haven't updated the photos yet?
I called ple to confirm from where I ordered mine and they were as much in the dark as I was as they haven't seen the card yet.
For AMD, AIBs usually have the lowest model as the AMD reference design model (unless there is a blower style requirement). Go by the SKU from the website.
Are there any cards in the sub-$700 catagory that would be a significant upgrade from my GTX1080?
I've moved house 5 times since i got this card and it still seems like the best choice is to stick with it.
If you're still gaming at 1080p/60hz, there probably isn't much reason to upgrade. It depends on your requirements.
3060ti would probably be the go if the rest of your system isn't a bottleneck.
i'm gaming with a 1440p 144hz screen, although with most games i'm lucky to hit 70fps at that resolution.
I've got a ryzen 3600 which doesn't seem to struggle with anything i've played so far. Maybe i should look at the second hand market. I really dont think i can justify more than $700 on a graphics card
Your CPU will likely become an issue too.
If you can drop in a 5600x and sell the 3600 that'd be a good value upgrade.
The $750 Radeon 6800 seems to be the best option for you, it gives you 82.3% performance at 1440p according to https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
As for cpu bottlenecking, you should be fine running any card at this price range with your 3600. Even for the 1k Nvidia RTX 3080, your 3600 will not struggle at all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrzqoeQVg4k
I snagged an Asus 6800 for $670, I'm at 3440x1440 and getting around 120fps on most games, upgraded from a gtx1080 also, honestly the best bang for buck at $700
@Jakeo: that how you do it. you wait till the cards or whatever reach a price point you set and not buy day 1 at msrp.
Now $1900 on eBay, shockers
For 200 more, the 4080 feels like a much better value with better Drivers, RT, DLSS (will remain a step ahead of FSR), CUDA, Game optimizations etc. This card should not be more than 1400 bux for what it does. Go watch HUB video.
hahahahahhaah
From the latest TechPowerUp article, looks like the AIB cards have some overclocking potential to boost performance up to 23.1% faster than 4080 in raster. However, AMD GPU overclocking is always complicated, and to be honest, there is no info about the power draw and temp and noise etc. I guess we will see when more reviews come out for non-ref 7900xtx.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-t…
USD $999.99 on bestbuy, which equal to around AUD $1,464.15, and we pay $300 more than US users.
aussie tax buddy, its all about tax
Even in US, many states cant buy it for 999. They have to pay tax depending on states.
pay the uncle leather tax
US is a main trading partner, we aren’t on the standard shipping routes either, governments wasting millions of nuclear submarines doesn’t help either
You realise sticker price isn't what they pay right?
You also get better warranty conditions here.
It's about $90 USD more. You need to remove GST before comparing pricing
its back in stock
@tids2k FYI - The product is back in stock
Went OOS between adding to cart and buying :( will check again later.
The page still allows adding to cart.
If it's still stuffed, I gotchu bruv - See if you can get a Sapphire one here (Apparently you get a free mystery box too lol): https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/21322-01-20g-sapphire-amd…
I'm after a card that will have a waterblock and isn't reference. Is this sapphire one a reference? It seems the track record shows that the Sapphire cards get a waterblock at least from Bykski but yeah I don't really want the crazy coil whine if it's reference.
What a disappointment this card has been. Better of buying the RTX 4080 which can be had for just $150 more
Link please
Back in stock
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Lots of scalpers are buying these stocks. I ain't going to buy any card that is over $1000
That's a fine way to exist but these days means you're 2 gens behind. Which again is fine if you're happy to exist there.
6900XT, 3070Ti etc are all quite capable cards. You can even get a good 3080 deal on ebay if you bid on an used card with warranty remaining.
FYI the eBay stores have never really put GPUs on sale. Certainly not the 15-17% sales.