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Alienware AW2521HFL 25" 240hz G-Sync IPS Gaming Monitor $270.40 (eBay Plus $263.64) Delivered @ Dell eBay
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HamBoi69 on 22/12/2022 - 10:58 ebay.com.au (2973 clicks)
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You'll be saying the same thing about 27 & 32 after you try out 34 UW.
Haha, I have heard the same. For the sake of my wallet, I will not try 34 UW for now.
34 UW is just like normal 29, right?
maybe 42 UW more like it.
or 34 super UW (32:9 ratio)
Like this one ThinkVision P40w-20 39.7" 5K2K Ultra-Wide Curved Monitor
Ultrawide is 21:9, or 3440x1440p, very common with the 34" monitors. Super ultrawide is 5120x1440p or 3840x1080p, both are 32:9 and used in the 49" monitors.
You will be saying the same thing after going from 19 > 24 > 27 > 34UW > 42 C2 :D
I use a mix of dual 23/24/27 at work and while sure there is size differences but honestly it’s not that big of a deal adjusting to it.
i use 24, 23.5 and 27", constantly have to move windows to 27" to actually see what im looking at
hmmm so now im using 29" FHD UW but feel need more room.
just bought that 32" 4K not UW, will i have the same issue like you cant see the fonts ? confused now
@CyberMurning: what you mean all?
thought was only the font that gets bigger
you can choose in the windows setting > display
-Make text bigger
-Make everything bigger.@CyberMurning: nice…please reply with pics and your personal review/experience of it..
could have bought it also
but it is not gaming monitor,also read some customer review of not getting 60hz output etc
and colours getting washed out/artefacts after 2 yearshttps://www.philips.com.au/c-p/328P6VJEB_75/brilliance-4k-lc…
I said the same thing many many years ago. I now game on a 55" tv (tcl c835) as my pc monitor and its fkn amazing lol :D
Same, 50" Sony. How is the C835? They are hard to find at the moment, thinking it might be a good upgrade to the bedroom set
Is great :) great picture quality
Hmm after getting the Alienware 38" for $250, nothing else seems to compare.
Didn't they all get cancelled?
I think anyone who had OzB+ subscription managed to get one sent.
I think anyone who had Muzeeb on their payroll managed to get one sent.
people who directly rang support on the day got theirs pushed through.
When was this? 😭😭
Oh do keep up James.
Look for the many call outs for Muzeeb.
can you list full model name and the deal post?
thanks
that is a good dealwonder how many got?
When was this?
Damn when did I miss out on this, would have been good for driving rig!
Thanks, ordered one!
does this count as <$300 for tax purposes? or because of the coupon code it would still be >$300?
The invoice will show $338
Does that matter when it comes to claiming it for tax purposes? Would you claim based on the after coupon price or before coupon cost?
Already purchased but would be great to claim on tax.
Yes it does. You’d have to declare what it shows on the invoice otherwise if you’re unlucky the ATO may audit your tax returns
@BargainsGrabber: Interesting. I would have thought you'd declare what you paid, rather than the pre-coupon amount (and the invoice would be able to support this).
@Noctuafanboy: Actually you’re right. I was confused with something else. It’s based on what you have paid
Note: this monitor is only 1080p.
Also note: it's 240Hz.
Absolute bargain if that's what you are after.
Also note: 1080p is great on 24 - 25 inch.
This monitor is really for fps games where you want a smaller monitor with higher refresh rate.
25" will be a slight downgrade in ppi than 24 inch
Yeah, that's true. But wouldn't be noticeable difference between the two.
Also keep in mind this is the same size as the 24.5" high hz monitors. It's 24.5" viewable.
which console can handle 240hz?
PC.
Desktop Computer
Review: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/alienware-aw2521…
Amazing response time and input lag at 240Hz and 60Hz, great colour accuracy and viewing angles. Typical IPS problems with black uniformity and mediocre contrast. Only 1080p but at 25" this is a sweet spot for that resolution.
Can't trust RTings reviews for IPS response time measurements, the entire left column of the table will be wrong and in fact much higher.
The motion pursuit capture isn't great either.
Here's a comparison with a good 240Hz IPS on there and here's a comparison with a great TN panel that overclocks to 280Hz.
I'm not super keen on this unless this is the max you can go to for a 240Hz monitor, I would advise instead looking at things like the Samsung G6 when it hits sales ($500-$600, most likely), or being patient for 240Hz OLED, which blows this out of the water and matches well agasinst 360Hz TN.
Based on the comparison to the Asus, the AW2521HF is still better. The viewing angles would make it awful to use and the slight advantages it does have are just too small to consider over the significant problems with TN panels. Compared to the ViewSonic, I'd still go the AW2521HF because it has vastly superior brightness, and better contrast and response time. Rtings only seems to rate it higher because it can support 4K downsampling on PS5/SX. The Samsung G6 is still double the price of this even on sale, and a 240Hz OLED will be $1000+ putting it in a totally different realm of monitor.
I'm sorry, are you even looking at the data you're claiming is an issue? The motion clarity is very clearly visually superior on the XG2431, because it was hand-tuned by an expert in the field.
The viewing angle 'issue' you're claiming is below 30 degrees from centred vertical viewing and specifically for black levels, which is equivalent to viewing your monitor while crouched on your knees, and reflects a manufacturing choice by the panel maker to not even bother with the optics for that. You're clearly grasping at straws here.
I agree that Samsung and the OLED options two are higher price points, but they also offer a far better motion clarity experience and overall great value for money when their price points will inevitably soften. If the ASUS VG258QM was here for $300-$350 like it seems to be in the US & UK, I would recommend it over this in a heartbeat because for a primary gaming monitor, it shits all over this for motion clarity, and the viewing angle shift means absolutely nothing when you're centred on and competitively gaming.
Please do not misrepresent and misunderstand the data presented so poorly again.
@jasswolf: If this, if that etc don’t matter. Right now nothing comes remotely close to this alienware for the money if you’re into fps and want a decent looking ips panel running at 240 hz. Full stop.
@fairyfloss: 240Hz IPS is a bad joke is my point. Visually for motion, I would set it as equivalent to say 180Hz TN, which significantly diminishes the value proposition.
That was my point, and it really wasn't that elusive.
@jasswolf: Tn looks like ass. This is a good compromise for 99.99% of the population who would still get spanked by a pro on a 60 hz no matter what monitor they got. Can’t deny it’s a great deal. That being said can’t wait for a qled to become smaller, half affordable and hopefully iron out few bits.
Tn looks like ass
All of these can look bad, please tell me what modern TN panels you've seen. A: they don't sell them here, because that mouth-breathing opinion gets slung at the retailers who order monitors. Thanks for your contribution!
This is a good compromise for 99.99% of the population
The PC gaming space is vanishingly small, and the price difference between 60Hz and 144Hz monitors is also vanishingly small. This is too meagre an improvement for those who would be typically be stepping up, but my comment already covered that this is a good deal for those on a very limited budget.
The benefit of viewing angles and colour consistency on IPS is almost meaningless for competitive gaming, which is why most pro or semi-pro gamers don't use 240Hz IPS unless they're being sponsored. Hell most of them still use Zowie models with DyAc. The benefits of IPS also need to be weighed against its weaknesses: awful black levels (IPS glow) and slow return to zero (powdered trailing).
QLED is a horrible alternative, miniLED HDR creates entirely new ghosting issues in high contrast scenes.
@jasswolf: Don’t need to worry about tn panels we can’t buy or are a lot more expensive. No matter how you spin it this has the advantages if an ips panel whilst being the equivalent of a 180hz tn as you said it yourself. Tn panels -available and for the same price - which will all look like ass that’s guaranteed. Ps: qoled my bad. This ips is great value that’s all there is to it.
No matter how you spin it this has the advantages if an ips panel
And all the negatives, which aren't just about motion resolution.
Tn panels -available and for the same price - which will all look like ass that’s guaranteed.
100% wrong, the issue is entirely the fault of our local distributors and retailers. The VG258QM is part of the exact same market segment, they've just erroneously decided to not make any orders for it.
They did this for years with the HP OMEN X 25f, before trying to sell it at original MSRP then eventually clearing it for little more than $300. Another was the Acer XF252Q.
My impression is that their knowledge doesn't extend far beyond yours.
qoled
QD-OLED, and I was referring to LG WOLED.
@jasswolf: Which part of available to buy and for the same price is hard for you to understand. Sugar coat it all you want but most that comes out from you is negativity about this deal. What alternatives do you offer? Nothing comparable… Your personal smart ass comments wont change that.
@fairyfloss: Which part of me contextualising the deal for those who can afford spending even as little as $50-$100 more did you not understand?
My alternatives have been listed many, many, many times, including a few here.
Further to this, 360 Hz TN will soon see more budget focused releases, then see deals at the $500ish mark.
@jasswolf: It's funny, if you were so confident in your information about TN and it's supposed superiority over IPS then you wouldn't feel the need to type multiple 300-word posts, argue with people, and throw the dummy and insult people who you disagree with.
You enjoy TN, that's fine. The majority of users are going to be affected by the downsides of the technology. Even a high-end TN is not going to defeat the faults of the technology. Disregarding that though, the alternatives you list aren't comparable on a fundamental level, that is price, which makes this monitor a great deal. Maybe dial it back a bit because you come across as a bit of a jerk in your replies to people. I won't be reading any further replies so don't bother replying.
It's funny, if you were so confident in your information about TN and it's supposed superiority over IPS then you wouldn't feel the need to type multiple 300-word posts, argue with people, and throw the dummy and insult people who you disagree with.
Welcome to entry-level science communication, of which I am an amateur in the space. Your entire argument is built off reddit commentary, professional colourists, and a subset of reviewers who get mad when looking at a document or bobbing around a screen in ways most people wouldn't when sitting at a desk, not a genuine discussion.
If we're talking the latest of each panel tech, TN is often the better choice for gaming, but its competitor is VA, not IPS. IPS is the better choice for document work or colour consistency in SDR photography/video work (or HDR if you spend thousands on a mastering panel), VA is best for video content.
If you cannot agree with that, you are not living in reality. Individual use cases vary, and dopes on reddit will wax lyrical about how they can see gamma shift on TN, but very few of them see it while gaming, only in document work or with a test image. The whole 'IPS is king' thing came about through creatives benefitting from the technology for the aforementioned professional work, and marketing teams coming up with ways to fund that professional IPS panel segment R&D through making run-off they could sell to gamers.
If IPS was so glorious and VA so crap, every LCD TV would use it, and yet they don't. Why? You can actually mitigate the weaknesses of VA far more economically than you can for IPS, and the same is true for TN.
You enjoy TN, that's fine
I enjoy OLED or VA, ideally.
Disregarding that though, the alternatives you list aren't comparable on a fundamental level, that is price, which makes this monitor a great deal.
They can and do happen: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/product/hp-4wh47aa-omen-x-25f
Maybe dial it back a bit because you come across as a bit of a jerk in your replies to people.
I'm sorry, you came back at me with what was clearly an argument built purely for the purpose of disagreeing with me, and I'm the jerk? Whatever makes you happy, I guess.
Different model btw. That's the gsync version, this is the freesync model that is gsync compatible. Probably mostly the same but you never know tbh.
Is this monitor good for office work? I have a wide screen lg monitor I'll pair it next to.
There are cheaper options for office work. This is for FPS gamers wanting fastest response time.
I personally would say no.
It's a low latency, high refresh monitor which is more for gamers (especially competitive FPS gamers). I personally don't see the selling point of this monitor for anyone else really.
For office work, it's really just about getting something cheap (I picked up an 1080p basic 60hz monitor from MSY for like $130 a few years ago), or if you need lots of screen real estate, getting one of those large, high resolution but slow refresh rate and response time is the go.
Thanks guys, really appreciate the feedback. Will give this one a miss.
why not the phillips 32" ? just $220
Will be great for csgo. Bought one thanks
Nope, that's worse in every way. Inferior VA panel, only 165Hz, pointless curve, smaller screen. Not even a good deal if the Alienware wasn't on sale.
appreciate the reply…. i may have accidentally knocked over my old Dell 27" curved (my first curved) and I was a pretty keen to continue the curve
i'm using a very old 22" monitor in the interim.
how you knock it over?
is it dead?can you post pic?
@pinkybrain: i was too annoyed to take a pic, 1 of the 4 vertical panels of the monitor was essentially dented from hitting the side of the desk as it fell. Meant that whole panel was black when it was on. Twas a sad day.
@chriskq: damn, so the bezel got dented it hit the actual screen?
did you throw it away?
also how much you paid for it?@pinkybrain: Yep :( I did just trash it after briefly looking into replacing one of the panels but not really in my skill. Got it for $370 last year during BFCM with the 20% off…
Estimated delivery 25 Jan - 2 Feb for me.
FHD 240? and 24'' i guess its onlygood for sweaty fpser
G-sync "compatible"
It's not an actual g-sync monitor.
This doesn't seem to be listed on the Dell website anymore, possibly end of line? It looks to be exactly the same as the S2522HG, which I got earlier in the year. Wanted something around 24-25" (replacing an old 23" in dual monitor setup) with a good number of USB ports - seems to be rare to find. Some occasional blurriness in Windows general use, but otherwise happy.
YOO I brought two monitors earlier in the year Dell S2721dgf and G2422HS(could've got 27 for $20 more but ceebs / not much desk room)
My cousin been wanting to get a 240hz so guess I'll buy this 💀 actually cheap and and Alienware is real gamering Soo like this is a huge deal aye Bois?!
i won’t go back to 1080p. bought a 24” 1440p 165hz monitor from china recently and it’s amazing. at 125% scaling it looks the same as 1080p, just sharper. I think the next step up for me will be the upcoming 27” 1440p 240hz oled lg monitor which is still higher dpi than 24” 1080p.
why not go 34" UW next?
i stack 2 monitors vertically! otherwise i’d probably get the 34” qd oled.
can you post a pic of your setup?
how do you stack it vertically with what stand/monitor arm?
get this monitor or 34" ultrawide etc?
After using 27&32, I can never go back to 24/25.