People Who Make Their Cars Louder, Are They Inconsiderate [Profanity] ?

Since we pretty much all agreed that smokers are inconsiderate, I have another question:
What about people who intentionally make their cars/motorcycles louder? Are they inconsiderate a**holes too?

I recently was a witness to an episode where everyone in the cafe had to stop their conversations and wait until one such unit finished parking his thundering bike. Then he just strolled in with a smile and sat for a meal. You reckon he just doesn't give a damn about other people, or is he that oblivious how it affects everyone around him?

I know that there are legal limits to vehicle's noise, but police is clearly too busy to bother with it (at least here in Gold Coast), cause I see and hear them to often to be an exception. IIRC motorbike's allowed levels are even higher since "loud pipes save lives" or something, but then we all also heard the opposite: that there is no evidence to such claims and hi vis clothing would work better anyway.

So what do you think about such people?

Poll Options

  • 897
    Yes, most are inconsiderate of others around
  • 137
    No, nothing wrong with loud cars/bikes
  • 25
    I am afraid to vote cause of bikies

Comments

      • 'find a tunnel to make lots of loud noises via echoing'

        reminds me of last century a friend had a VW dune buggy or whatever those open-top things were called

        we used to love driving through a tunnel to hear the stereo effect of the twin exhaust pipes alternately firing from left and right from the horizontally opposed engine -

        together with some kind of mind-altering substance that was totally wow maaaaaan

  • -3

    One of the quickest and easiest ways to gain engine power is to let the engine breath ;)

    • Back pressure is real though

      • +2

        The back is meant to be an outlet, not an inlet. (That's not just for cars too!)

        • +13

          Not according to my wife 😉

  • +2

    If your 4 cylinder Impreza makes more noise than a V12 Lamborghini then you must have the smallest peen.

    The only people that like those pieces of trash are other losers who spent as much time and money as you on them, not the women they seem to be trying to impress 🤣

    • +1

      Unironically and totally factual: amongst the women that I (male) have been in relationships with, 2 had their own WRX with no STI package (no pun intended) and aftermarket cat-back exhausted. In each case, their driving was a deal-breaker.

      Another woman I went on a single date with had a bright green V8 ute with 4 exhaust pipes on the back. We did not click.

      I've been running an ongoing informal survey for like a decade now, and more often than not, of the women I've dated, most actually believe accelerating hard wasn't burning more fuel or, they believe driving slowly uses more fuel. I was unable to convince any of them otherwise.

      • +1

        do we have a selection bias there ?

        of all the women I've dated that drove hotted-up cars - most were stupid … ?

        mk then - no argument from me

        most of my girlfriends - when I asked them what kind of car they had - would say like 'a blue one'

        but they had university degrees - so what would they know … ;-)

        • I think I just attract equally retarded women.

          Subaru girls Asian with degrees
          Ute girl Caucasian mech eng student.

          Current gf has a master's degree but after dividing salary by hours worked she'd be better off working in hospitality. My efforts to convince her to become a postie have failed.

          Happy to receive any advice

          • +1

            @Assburg: Stay the course.

            Either the right one will come, or you will continue to attract just the good-lookers from the bunch ;-)

    • Taking offence and downvoting this just proves the point the comment is trying to make.

  • +12

    I feel like Harleys are on another level compared to modified cars. A Harley is loud even when idling but a modded car is mainly loud when driven hard or revved. Normally I can put up being next to a modded car in traffic but sitting next to a Harley is much worse.

    • +1

      in other news, the loudest sound of a car cruising at highway speed - as heard from someone standing outside - is usually tyre noise.

      on a rainy day, even a 'silent' electric car on a wet inner Sydney road, can be disturbingly loud to me (tyre noise alone)

      • True. Cars in general are very noisy.
        The city Delft in the Netherlands took this issue seriously and put in control measures. I think I saw it on the War on Cars YouTube channel.

  • +2

    Loud vehicles don't bother me. But those that are particularly loud are definitely driven/ridden by arseholes. It's just the way it is.

    • reminds me of people holding down the horn button in traffic, seeking to draw attention to another driver doing something they didn't like

      others around turn and look at the arsehole - holding down the horn button …

  • +1

    I saw a straight piped V12 Merc.

    That was pretty funny.

  • +4

    Yes I think it’s inconsiderate and would love to see noise limits reduced for new cars and bikes and current limits actually enforced. I’m Gold Coast based too and live not far (maybe 400m) from the Gold Coast Hwy, I often hear loud vehicles hooning in the middle of the night/early morning. For a while there was a person with a loud but small motor bike who would drive down our street every day at 3am and wake everyone up. I’ve had the same happen at cafes, when my little one was younger he once burst into tears from fright when an extremely loud bike did the same, it is just essentially unpleasant and unnerving.

    I do get the safety aspect for bikes, but realistically we need to have other strategies so that we don’t hurt motorbike riders or cyclists.

    Speaking of enforcement, it would be nice if something was done re noise but as far as I can tell the cops don’t have the resources on the Goldy to address really basic stuff. Not far from me young people roam the streets every night checking for unlocked cars to steal or steal from as well as opening unlocked gates etc. At Christmas a man was stabbed when he went out to intervene. All in a very well known area, lots of footage from residents security cameras but as far as I know police do very little. It wouldn’t be too hard to have police driving round monitoring this but I guess they are responding to actual incidents so prevention doesn’t happen without the resources. We have a couple of additional locked internal doors from garage and laundry to house which I’ve taken to checking are locked at night or if I’m home alone during the day, always have screen doors locked if I’m pottering around the house during the day and trying to let a breeze through. I’ve instructed my husband not to go out when we hear stuff going on outside so as not to become a target, It’s not great having to think this way even though our street is not one of the main ones effected and it’s even worse in places like Townsville.

    • Wow. That's bad. It sounds like living in some parts of America.

      • +1

        Yep it’s not great. Luckily there aren’t as many guns.

    • If your house alarm has a duress button then activate that. I can guarantee it will scare the little (profanity) off and wake up all the neighbours.

  • +3
  • +1

    I often wonder what will happen to these motorists (or their children rather) once electrification occurs and it makes no noise. how will you get people's attention?

  • -1

    To me they don't exist not are apart of society, and police that do not enforce such behaviour is less if a police officer.

    Wanna race do it on the track, wanna be a pain do it in a MMA gym.

  • +1

    I agree with majority of what people are saying, it's a bit of an echo chamber in Here. what I'm conscious of is that there will be other forums out there with mirrored opposite users who are all competing and/or high fiving each other over how loud their vehicles are.

  • +8

    I am a car guy and a bike guy and love a nice sounding car so I get the appeal. However, there is a contingent (probably the majority) that seem to strive for the most obnoxious sounding exhaust possible. The worse part is that they also seem appear to want to cause the most disturbance too. I really curse those people flogging their sh1t sounding V6 Commodores and Golf GTI around suburbia. If they had any respect they would not cause such noise in densely populated quiet suburbia. I wish there was an easy way of reporting these cars or maybe adopting noise cameras like they have in Paris that automatically fines loud cars. So yeah I think loud-ish cars are ok, there is nothing better than an old cammed V8 but lets crack down on those obnoxious exhausts, especially the ones that crack and pop.

    • -1

      'the ones that crack and pop'

      AFAIK if not a leaky exhaust pipe of over-rich mixture exploding inside the pipe (short life there)

      crack and pop sounds in traffic are typically bwankers who installed after-market, maybe illegal, turbo-chargers

      and want others to notice that they've spent too much money on something which is wasted in city traffic

      so they may be hoping instead to impress gurlz like 'ooh that guy spent money - he must be RICH … !'

      • +1

        Depends on the car subculture, but most of the ones I see from JDM to Euro it's actually a pops-and-bangs tune (nothing to do with forced induction or naturally aspirated). Can be done on a custom dyno tune (with plenty of eye rolling from the dyno operator), or these days a lot of people are buying Open Flash Tablets etc ($600 little tablets that allow you to download a variety of tunes from the internet, and load them into your car).

        Basically unburned fuel being intentionally let run through the system to male the noise.

      • Typically not an aftermarket turbocharger, as that is a lot more work, just an aftermarket burble tune.

    • +3

      I think the same way as you. Those absolute knob-head GTIs who think their crackle exhaust sounds good piss me off. How are they passing rego with that shit? I'm all against a nanny state but I wish some politician would stand up and say "if I'm elected I'll introduce a car noise limit policy" and they'd get my vote.

      • +1

        Pops and bangs are next level obnoxious. Besides the fireworks that EA888 engine in those Golf's are one of the most horrendous sounding engines. For the life of me I dont know how they can stand it.

  • +6

    You reckon he just doesn't give a damn about other people, or is he that oblivious how it affects everyone around him?

    No, its the other way around. They do it BECAUSE of the effect it has on other people. They are attention seekers. They think people they look to for approval admire them for their rebelliousness, and they like annoying everyone else. Basically they are stuck at a 4 year old's emotional level and will probably will never grow up.

    • True and I always make a point of not looking in their direction for this reason.

    • I don't have kids but it's one of the few times I feel so sorry for the parents with little babies who get scared and start crying after a loud ******* drives by with his loud vehicle.

  • +17

    I lived across the road from a proper car and bike guy (it was his business) and never once did his souped-up ute or bike annoy me or scare my young kids as they had a low, powerful almost-purr-like sound. You could feel the power in them from the sound, it didn't need to be obnoxiously loud to get attention. I'd imagine the true experts and car lovers don't have a lot of respect for all the loud wannabes crackling and popping their way around, thinking they're some kind of alpha.

  • +9

    Look, I have an aftermarket catback exhaust on my WRX STI and a blow off valve. I don't go turbo back and tune because I know it'll be too loud.

    If I'm driving late night in a residential area I back off the throttle/disable the blow off valve (electronic controller).

    I don't mind a loudish exhaust, but when it's comes to the likes of an AMG C63 with straight pipes or the brutally loud Harley's that are out of this world obnoxious, it's ridiculous. How they get away with it is beyond me.

    • Nah mate according to everyone here you just have a small dick

      • Small PP gang unite!

    • If I'm driving late night in a residential area I back off the throttle/disable the blow off valve (electronic controller).

      Thank you for that. We are not talking about you then, and the loud exhaust ricer types probably outnumber you 10 to 1.

  • +1

    i thought there were laws against aftermarket parts like that. i just don't like when you put it on a piece of crap and it makes it sound horrible. if you have a loud exhaust and drive fast, it will go away.

    I am only annoyed when you get a P.O.S. struggling to redline every gear and can't even pass you driving normally. then that loud obnoxious noise just stays with you the whole trip.

  • +7

    South-west sydney is filled with retards. Yes, they love the noise and don't care about anyone else except themselves and their bros

    I pray for the retard with the mustang on my street to drive off a cliff.

  • +1

    Yep, personally find it super annoying when you’re out having a nice walk or meal only for a loud rev from a bike or modded car. Hate it.

    Shouldn’t be allowed to have excessively loud vehicles in resitential areas, it’s loud enough as it is with traffic etc

  • +8

    a lot of people in here OBSESSED with dick sizes lol

  • +4

    Bikes get excessively loud. I enjoy hearing modified cars if the sound is proportionate to their acceleration.

  • +1

    Everyone with a loud car needs to watch this important video:
    https://youtu.be/hEG6knXQxNg

  • +1

    How motorcyclists think people react when they drive by…
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=ylhsbfQTPDQ

  • -1

    Having A Small Penis And Driving A Sports Car May Be Linked After All

    A study has found a potential connection. I wonder how a loud exhaust plays into it.

    • -2

      Who even Commissions a study like that, with all the things that could be studied… More green/left propaganda that the mouth breathers eat up.

      Alternative headline - "Buy an EV, everyone will think you're hung like a donkey!"

      • Hung like a donkey but the stamina of sloth

      • EVs can still be sports cars.

        • -2

          Yeah they can still be marketed as "sports cars", but very very few, apart from at the highest end hypercar type cars can actually go toe to toe with an ICE "sports car".

          It's like you can have a trackhawk supercharged SUV Jeep, and yes it's "fast" and yes it makes the right noises but it's still not a "sports car", just way too heavy and not a car you'd really chose to throw around a track. EVs are a bit like that.

    • "A new preprint study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed"

      I'd take this with a grain of salt. No peer review means not published…

    • yes I read that 'men who feel they have a small penis are more likely to want a sports car'

      bemusing since I have three neighbours with sports cars …

    • I hang dong and I don't even own a car, so maybe there's something to this..

  • +2

    Loud is not necessarily good or nice. And I would probably avoid vary load vehicles as every day
    However I do mis the roar of older gen F1 car…

  • +1

    I think their catalytic converter was stolen.

  • I'm constantly annoyed by the number of excessively loud Harleys that ride past my work for this reason.

    Flouting the law, disregard others, telling the world they have tiny penises and like the company of men in their backdoor is what those idiots are doing (no judgment I guess, but still, I don't go around openly demonstrating my heterosexuality)

    They should get their ears tested too.

    • -4

      now say it to one of them face to face and see how you go keyboard warrior …lol

      • +2

        They don't even stop when I flag them down, so whose the coward??

      • Riding a loud motorbike doesn't make you tough. The majority of these guys are fat and middle-aged. Going through some sort of mid-life crisis.

  • +1

    The answer is yes, but there are different degrees of loudness that need to be clarified. Both my car and motorbike have modified exhausts and are therefore louder than stock, however I intentionally only went a little louder than stock. If stock is a 0 out of 10, then I went a 4 out of 10 on the loudness scale. I hate people who go 10 out of 10 with deafening loudness that disturbs you in your sleep (e.g. Harleys). Those guys are just inconsiderate losers who need to compensate for having limited brain capacity.

  • I'm more offended by people who remove catalytic converters from 1990s Japanese cars and run them rich. You know the ones: black soot around the exhaust, and a really foul odour from the tailpipe.

    • Mandatory EV laws can't come soon enough. The air in our cities will be much cleaner.

  • I dont mind them too much, just not first thing in the morning, too early for that.

  • had to stop their conversations and wait until one such unit finished parking his thundering bike.

    Yet the title is

    People Who Make Their Cars Louder, Are They Inconsiderate [Profanity] ?

    Last time i checked a car is not a bike? Unless i'm missing something

    But yes, motorbikes should be subject to the same noise controls as cars. Nothing worse than a horde of Harleys rumbling down the main streets thinking they're somehow doing everyone a service?
    By all means ride a bike, just don't have it sound like a gattling gun going full boar.

  • Have a look at this Facebook Group, most of them are probably there, https://www.facebook.com/groups/2634381543268420/

  • +3

    straight piped Harleys are particularly bad IMO, and a continuation of that sentiment would be any vehicle where the noise it's making is disproportionately loud compared to the acceleration and speed on offer.

    • -1

      Nobody has straight piped harleys. For one, they need some back pressure. Secondly, they would be spitting out flames, and fires arent a good thing. What you probably dont understand is that they are a 2 cylinder engine in a V formation. Most are air-cooled. They tend to have a larger capacity than most cars. So when a large capacity twin cylinder engine runs, it is loud. Thats the way they are. Go and look at 2 cylinder engines on mowers, stationary engines etc. All Loud. A bike isnt a car. You dont have the room for a large multi-muffled exhaust. My bikes are all loud. Yet they are all as I bought them new. All were ordered with stage 1 mufflers and still have the catalytic convertors fitted. Factory pipes with compliance stickers. And they only need to be compliant with the regulations at the time they were made.

      • I'm very familiar with the engine configuration, and their heightened noise emission allowance, As I am a long term motorcycle enthusiast and rider, and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt, you can buy straight pipes for Harleys and people do install them, although many do try to loosely muffle/have a catalytic converter by using a (or similarly named) High-Flow Catalyst Cartridge.

        At a pedantic level, your statement that "Nobody has straight piped harleys", is incorrect, there are definitely people that do with zero restriction, I know at least a few of them. Are they smart enough to consider power loss vs noise? or have looked into the questionable statements thrown around about the need for backpressure? perhaps not, or know and don't care.

  • +3

    I report Harleys riders, knuckle draggers want attention, they can have it, from EPA and highway patrol.

    Now its dipshit P platers with the crackling fart tunes in VWs.

    I'm a car enthusiast but these people are straight up (profanity)

    • +1

      how to report these people and what to say when you report them? What kind of information is required when reporting and what is a reasonable criteria for reporting?

      • +9

        For NSW

        https://www.epa.nsw.gov.au/your-environment/noise/vehicle-no…

        For local idiots. Report them to above, what bikers will do is swap back pipes for emissions tests. Thats fine, report them to highway patrol (in a few weeks) then theyre really screwed with prior citation for noise. Won't hear them again after that, process of weeding these loud idiots.

        • +1

          doing the lords work, one obnoxiously loud Harley at a time.

    • -2

      I have Harleys and Indians.All of them have factory exhausts complete with compliance stickers. And when a (profanity) like yourself makes a report, I have great satisfaction in showing my factory exhausts, which comply with the regulations in place when the bike was made. And what does this make the authorities do? Make a note so that when the karen who reported it does so again that its thrown into the bin.
      If I leave early or come home late I roll my bike down the street. Right in front of the karen who reported me, then start it up. Nothing sweeter than that nice deep rumble that shakes the windows with the exhausts pointing towards the bedroom.
      Car enthusiasts dont drive Subarus. They are for Karens who dont want to offend anyone with the bland stying and low power. No wonder you get so upset when bikes go past you all laughing. And BTW, I drive an AMG Mercedes too. And none of my Benzes break down, all have plenty of power, and they make Karens in Subarus seeth because they know that they wanted one but were afraid of what other people might think. I bet your subaru is a cream color too, with door protectors and a dash mat. A true car enthusiast! LOL

  • depends how loud .. and times they turn on their car .. and if they free rev it ..

  • Cars yes. Bikes get a bit of a pass. If they make a tonne of noise, people will notice them a lot easier and so are less likely to get maimed or killed by a car by the old 'Whoops I didn't know you were there' classic.

    Still sucks though.

    • +2

      The noise is pointed backwards. I generally don't hear motorbikes until they are quite close.

      The whole loud pipes save lives is a myth - https://www.autoweek.com/news/industry-news/a35952569/loud-p…

      • +1

        Well the more you know! Thanks friend

      • A test with non moving bikes, and all japanese style bikes? Thats not even a credible test.
        The phrase came about to do with pedestrians and bikes. While it may not translate over to cars, even last minute driver awareness can save your life. Its not the only thing that keeps a rider safe. There is defensive riding, visibility and road conditions. But if there is an extra 2% chance it gives me, Il take it.
        Also, "The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration may be siding with motorcyclists. As electric vehicles become more popular, the agency was assessing whether noise should be added to increase attention. The NHTSA worried that silent electric motorcycles and other vehicles would go unnoticed in traffic. Granted, the agency was clear it worried more about the risk to pedestrians than to the rider operating the motorcycle, but the point remains: the agency agreed that vehicles that cannot be heard are dangerous [source: Edge]."

  • +1

    Does this poll include police helicopters at 3am

    • -1

      circling round and round the suburb with their lights off so we don't see them.

  • -1

    The sooner these are rolled out in every suburb, the better

  • +3

    Your poll needs to quantify what you mean by loud, it's a pretty broad definition. Do you mean a sports exhaust from the manufacturer, something louder than standard but not obtrusive, straight piped performance car or straight piped Harley levels of loud?

    I think it also depends a lot on how the vehicle is driven, I've got some pretty loud modified classic muscle nearby but I'm not fussed as they don't floor it down the road at odd hours. The Saturday evening motorbike club down the road with 30+ bikes gathering at the same place every damn weekend who leave at the same time revving and flooring it down the street, randomly coming and going for the next 15 minutes because one forgot their purse on the other hand… why can't these people at leave gather at other houses, it always has to be the same place.

    • Totally agree that it depends on the driver. If they're considerate and don't WOT their way through the suburb then it's fine.

  • +1

    Not really worried about the noise of cars but the noise of Bikies can be next level…

  • +1

    My car is stupid loud on a cold start, it also makes loud cracking sounds on the odd gear change.

    I am a bit embarrassed about it but I don't drive it often, and checked with my neighbours cause sometimes I leave home early but they are cool with it.

    It's not as loud as a Harley when parking or driving normally though.

    I agree, I am inconsiderate of others.

    • I tried starting my twin exhaust sports car without an exhaust when I was doing work on it. nearly burst my ear drums inside the garage.. never again.

  • Mine is loud af, 3" turboback on an Evo X (yes its tuned)… but it gets driven twice a week at most so I have no guilt. My daily driver is a Ninebot e-scooter…

  • There's an idiot in my area that drives around pretty late at night sometimes and the car literally sounds like a fomula one car, its ridiculous. Never seen the car or person but its way beyond the normal loud car levels.

    IMHO these people are inconsiderate d1ckheads and there should be some sort of noise limit for general motoring.

    • There is a noise limit… Getting caught out is a different thing. Some performance cars have a screamer pipe where a valve opens on wide open throttle and the exhaust bypasses the mufflers.

  • +1

    Also hate people in the residential area who blasts music in their car (with lots of bass) idling for 30min before actually getting on their way.

  • +3

    Seems to be a large amount of black and white opinions going on.
    But I feel it's a larger grey area than its being given credit for, So here's my opinion from personal experience.

    There is certainly a decibel level many bikes and some cars seem to reach which is undeniably obnoxious and simply intrusive. And is often painful to sit next to idling in traffic even. Genuinely do not understand how the driver/rider can tolerate it themselves.

    That said, I own a decently loud car and have been involved within car clubs where the large majority of cars are also loud. (Some certainly louder than I would prefer)
    But it all comes down to awareness. Personally, I didn't want an insanely loud car as its just awful for everyone so have a middling loud exhaust.
    I am constantly aware of how loud my car is and being respectful as possible to those around me especially during certain times such as night, or when around busy pedestrian areas. The large majority of people I spent time with across car clubs also were, for the most part, respectful.

    Also, just to clear something up I've seen mentioned a few times in the comments. It's not to impress women (or men, whatever you're into). Everyone's aware that doesn't work. It's done for ourselves and the car communities we involve ourselves with. But largely most people i know with loud exhausts do it for themselves, not to prove anything or showoff.

    There are of course exceptions to all of the above.

    Anyways, just my two cents. Certainly, find myself sometimes wishing people would be more considerate when they roar past me.

    • +1

      Exactly right. Loud cars and bikes can have a respectful place without upsetting people. I have a loud Harley (not obnoxiously loud) but I always keep the revs down and the bike as quiet as possible past houses and people walking especially people walking with children or dogs. I enjoy my loud-ish bike but I assume no else wants to hear it so I just choose the place and time to enjoy the Potato Potato Potato

  • -1

    They probably couldn't get enough attention from others as kids (or they have undiagnosed ADHD) and not smart enough to know other ways of getting attention.

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