Get an edge in gameplay by creating your own custom controls to fit your playstyle. Built with high performance and personalization in mind, the DualSense Edge™ wireless controller invites you to craft your own unique gaming experience so you can play your way
RRP: $339
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Odds that Amazon ship many preorders on launch day, slim.
Is it just a controller?! not a console?!
this controller better make me win more
buys pro controllers, W more, get slaps by SBMM, L, $300 gone.
Yes it's hard to believe that a controller for the PS5 would be not too far from 40% of the price of a new PS5 console. This must be so massively over priced. What is Sony thinking setting a price like this for.
Whilst I agree, I also feel the same way about Apple AirPods Max, but they seem to sell well. Basically, just because you're not the market, doesn't mean that the market has no basis.
Whilst I understand what you are saying, I think the point here is that 98% of people are totally satisfied with the standard PS5 controller, which is already a very good piece of hardware. Compare that to 2% of people who are satisfied with the earphones that come with their Samsung or iPhone.
@jirskyr: I feel like you're making the opposite case for what you're saying. If people are satisfied with the PS5 controller, then don't buy the pro controller? You're not being forced to, and if it's already good, then it's not offering you value.
Whereas if you're dissatisfied with your earphones and you're forced to then pay something unreasonable for something of quality? Isn't that far worse?
They probably see Microsoft selling the Xbox Elite Controller successfully for $250 and they want a piece of that whale action.
That and its other direct competition are SCUF controllers, which are insanely priced.
I can't know for sure, but I've heard from several people the Elite controller legitimately costs quite a lot to produce. I know that JB buys them from Microsoft for around $160-$170 as my bro bought one for $180 recently using his staff discount (which is usually cost-price + 5% on non-newly released products).
This is a pro controller like the Xbox Elite V2, probably the best controller I've ever used.
I don’t care how good it is, it’s a peripheral for playing video games, the price is flat out stupid.
Probably still has dualsense buttons breaking constantly too :p
@justtoreply: And the analog stick sensors are a carryover from the PS4 with the drifting/centering issues.
It's just like buying an expensive golf clip for playing golf, there is a market for it, just because it's stupid for you doesn't mean it's stupid for everyone.
Except the elite V2 is roughly $100 cheaper
elite v2 is my daily controller its a big upgrade from a normal xbox controller but fk me are they unreliable. i hardly even game that much anymore and i feel i send one off for warranty every 2-4 months. i do hope sony controllers are built better
This controller better rock my world, Ivan.
RRP: $339
Ouch. Even at $305
Insane, I thought the $250rrp Xbox Elite 2 was expensive.
I want one but can't bring myself to pay anywhere near that price.
Inflation is getting out of hand.
This is what happens when you got a company doing so well, they can charge whatever they feel like…. There's been a few anti consumer moves in recent years from Sony.
After their PS3 launch price being grossly overpriced they added a few games in, dropped some bundles etc etc…. As Xbox was absolutely killing it with the 360….
Once they started taking over, it very much shifted, MS had to be generous after their One launch event etc etc… Sony just had to rock up and haven't been challenged since really.
Sony has been anti-consumer since the PSP when they were charging like 200 bucks for 8 gig memory cards that you had to buy from them. Not sure why everyone thinks that Sony is the pro consumer company out of the big players….. Never see them do anything to show that they are.
Yet people are freaking out about Microsoft buying Bethesda. I remember Microsoft dropping the price of one of the Xbox consoles shortly after launch, and giving people that bought it prior a bunch of games and controllers to make up the difference…. would never see Sony do that.
And I say that as someone with a PS5 and no Xbox.
Bethesda already bought, Activision now.
Which I genuinely think will be great. It'll go a huge way to levelling the playing field imo.
@scuderiarmani: I hope they don’t buy all of Activision, maybe only a few studios.
We need companies not big oligarchy’s pretending to compete.
Kinda ironic using the proprietary memory cards as an example when the competition is doing literally that currently and you're praising them for being pro consumer.
@Asu: Gosh when the fan boys come out the claws come out as well.
My point and I stand by it, is Sony has always been anti consumer as f***. Nintendo as well. And yes the example you've used is an example of MS being anti consumer as well, but they have a better track record over the last decade than Sony does.
The amusing thing is I own both a switch and a ps5, but don't own an Xbox….. But unlike the Fanboys, I call it for what it is.
This is why I prefer to game on my desktop… all you console fan boys take it way too seriously and get your panties in a twist.
@Asu: It's not that any one of these companies are 100% pro-consumer, it's that some are more consumer-friendly than others.
For the record I own one of every console brand and generation since PS4, Xbox 360 and Switch, so I have many years in each of the ecosystems. Xbox is currently IMO the most consumer-focused game platform. It's not even close - Gamepass, Quick Resume on XBSX, Smart Delivery.
Even the way MS allow all platforms to cross-play on Minecraft (which my kids play all day). Sure that probably works in Microsoft's favour in the end, but they could have made Minecraft Xbox/PC exclusive and tried to drive migration to their platforms. Sony does exactly this with their IPs, and have the hide to try to block MS in court from acquiring Blizzard-Activision.
Sony has handled the cross-gen transition horribly, and trying to fleece gamers for $30-40 bucks for high-res versions of many of their old PS4 games, or remaking Last of Us twice now and trying to charge $90 for the latest iteration. Confusing parents at Xmas time trying to figure out whether to buy the PS4 or PS5 version of games. Even as an experienced gamer I have to actually research the purchase path for every Playstation game, whether or not there's a free upgrade etc. Horrendous.
Nintendo are the worst of the 3, we all know that. The only thing I'll say is Nintendo have always strictly policed their own IPs and their product isn't even in the same realm of capability as the new consoles, so really Nintendo have carve out their own niche and that explains their pricing policy with the essential lack of competition.
@jirskyr: Thanks for the write up, but once again I was just pointing out the irony of the example used to showcase anti-consumerism. I didn't mention how Sony was pro consumer or anything.
Anyone can make one company seem like saints via cherry picked argument points.
However, Ruddaga just had to get his ego hurt and resort to calling me a fanboy.
not to mention Sony’s clear bias of JP VS non-JP games
They hate Japan now, everything gets censored (check dmc5 one for example)
meanwhile games like TLOU2 and Witcher 3 can have far worse things and no sweat
I agree that companies have more flexibility in pricing when they're doing well, but it's important to also consider the impact on consumers. As you said, Sony addressed concerns with the PS3 launch price by adding games and offering bundles.
But MS kept shooting themselves in the foot late in the 360 life. Despite the RROD issues they did remarkably well initially.
A year or two of nothing game wise, than a follow up console targeted for anything but games.
So almost every move since, huge pro consumer. Like GPU.
With the market share Sony has, I just can't see how they care. People will buy anything with a PS logo.
@scuderiarmani: Just because a company has a dominant market share doesn't mean they can ignore consumer needs. Companies should always strive to balance pricing and consumer satisfaction, regardless of their market position.
@Julius: I agree, but companies don't do usually do that. They've got 1 thing in mind.
Especially when the PS division basically kept Sony afloat for years.
@scuderiarmani: Yep, I bought an Xbox 360 because of all the exclusives. Turns out the deals they brokered were absolute bollocks and Sony ended up releasing many of the same games, but with extra features that weren't in the initial release.
Microsoft decided that all they cared about were Gears of War and Halo. As someone who didn't care for either and was more into the RPGs and adventure games they started with on Xbox, I jumped shipped to Sony and haven't looked back.
@Moventura: Sony's been putting out more of their exclusive games on PC, seems like it's part of their plan for the future, they've mentioned it in their meetings with investors.
Overpriced, not sure. PS3 and most consoles actually lose money from the price to make each one. They make the difference on games and accessories. PS3 was the first of its kind. Receiver that could play the newest DTS-HD MA, Dolby TrueHD, USB playable for all video and audio codecs, even more than my top of the line Panasonic player. Inbuilt bluray player and so much more. Thats before you include anything to do with gaming. PS3 was a bargain based on tech at the time. These days many features are standard with tech. Back then, it was unheard of. PS3 might still be the best device relative to what was available for its release.
Agreed, I'd rather pay a couple of $100 more at launch and get a console that's literally a paradigm shift in performance and capability and doesn't require a mid-gen refresh just to play games the way we were promised at launch.
Many organisations literally built supercomputers (including the U.S. Air Force) by stringing PS3's together because of the performance and low cost per (like 20x less) per TFLOP.
https://phys.org/news/2010-12-air-playstation-3s-supercomput…
It's not inflation. It's young people with no bills who have lots of disposable income.
Idk I have two kids and a mortgage and a halo elite series ii with the rocket launcher MC light-up stand and scuf paddles so 🤷🏻♂️
I can hear my dad in my head knocking me for such purchases over the years….
He was right though.
That controller is why you still have the mortgage :p
lol
It's young people with no bills who have lots of disposable income.
It’s people in their 20/30s who have spent their entire life with low interest rates and didn’t experience the GFC as an adult. That and BNPL bullshit has resulted in people who have absolutely no concept of the value of money.
The real scary thing is tax payers will be funding them when they have nothing but $300 video game controllers come retirement age.
Lol.
So bad. So so bad. You should be embarrassed you typed that out.
This post might be harsh but it is true
@hamwhisperer: What an absolute load of garbage. It’s a sweeping generalisation based on absolutely no facts at all made by someone who lacks the mental capacity to understand that some people can simply…..comfortably afford to buy expensive things, regardless of other people’s financial ability to do so!!!
comfortably afford to buy expensive things
A lot of people can if they’re only thinking about the sort term and not planning for the future or the unexpected.
The reaction to the interest rate increases showed us that.
Then there’s also those who are exceptionally well off and don’t have to think about the future at all, but that is becoming increasingly rare.
@PainToad: Yeah, that $300 could certainly be the difference between feeding your family and you all being out on the street huh?
The market this controller is appealing to is a niche group, not every man and their dog and I’m sure those who may struggle without that $300 later probably don’t give two damns about this controller anyway.
I’m sure we’ve all made purchases at some time that others think are poor value that we personally think are not.
Yeah, that $300 could certainly be the difference between feeding your family and you all being out on the street huh?
“Just” $300 here, “just” $300 there adds up.
Plus, factor in the extra interest you’ll pay by not using that money to make an extra repayment on a home loan. Or the interest you could have accumulated by putting the money into a term deposit.
@PainToad: Think of all the money saved if you hadn’t bought those 5 coffees last week or if you didn’t go to the movies those few times or if you hadn’t gone out for dinner with friends or if you just saved that $50 instead of buying new clothes.
People in those situations aren’t struggling and can afford to splurge on luxuries so why shouldn’t they? Just to pay their mortgage off a month earlier.
You’re having a laugh!!!
5 coffees last week
I don’t drink coffee.
go to the movies
I haven’t been to the movies in years.
gone out for dinner with friends
Would much rather have them over and have food not made by snotty nosed teenagers in the kitchen.
buying new clothes
I buy reasonably priced clothes. Walking around naked isn’t really an option.
so why shouldn’t they? Just to pay their mortgage off a month earlier.
It could be a decades earlier and many many thousands of dollars cheaper. Have you actually looked into the benefits of paying a loan off early?
@PainToad: As someone with a mortgage, not that you’d even need one as its common sense to know the benefits of paying off a loan early.
I don’t drink coffee.
Plenty do and can afford to.
I haven’t been to the movies in years.
Plenty do and guess what? They can still afford extra repayments on their home loan or to contribute more to their super.
Would much rather have them over and have food not made by snotty nosed teenagers in the kitchen.
My examples aren’t directed at you personally, just people in general who can afford to buy expensive things while still being able to live comfortably.
I buy reasonably priced clothes. Walking around naked isn’t really an option.
You could just make do with what you have or buy the cheapest possible option but I’m sure you don’t.
Anyway, I’m done here because your argument is ridiculous and I’ve already invested time that I’ll never get back which is much more of a “waste” than the $340 for this controller.
@MaximumEffort777: That's true, doesn't change the fact a lot of people seem less responsible than ever and coddled and catered for. With no concept of money managing skills.
When those people get old with nothing to show, we will indeed be paying for them.
@hamwhisperer: But that could be said for absolutely anything people spend money on, not sure how this is any different? If it’s not this people buy it will be something else that others see no value in.
It's not really their fault.
The main issue is the property market in Australia since 1960-70 has made many average Australians very wealthy. Literally anyone who bought a house in 1975 spent 20 years struggling to pay off their mortgage, but now in their 60s and 70s they are multi-millionaires. This gives their kids a very strong platform for education, getting into the house market themselves etc.
Dual-income households where the mother holds a well-paid FT job has added to the pricing competition for limited resources (houses) and also created a very wealthy middle-class with disposable income.
I grew up in the 80s and very few people had the budget to fly overseas for holidays. When I went to the US in 1991 (when we sold my Grandfather's house) it was a huge deal and we didn't know anyone who had ever flown to America. Nowadays it's normal - half the kids in my daughter's class have been to Disneyland.
Go overseas to a less affluent country, then come back to any of the big cities in Australia and see the kind of money many Australians casually spend on coffees, avocado toast at the cafe, holidays and, yes, controllers. But I'm not going to criticise people for it - we are a very wealthy country right now.
wealthy country right now
But for how long? And how much of that wealth is actually debt or an illusion from an inflated housing bubble ready to burst?
@PainToad: This. What do we actually make here now? We are just bloody lucky that South America and Africa have not been able to organise resource mining as well as we have. Once they do and China chooses to buy from there not us (because we like to bite the hand that feeds us), we are toast.
@jirskyr: Yeah I remember kids who's dad went to America in school and it was like a huge thing to know someone who went and managed to buy Reebok pumps or something.
It was a different time
@hamwhisperer: Man I was able to get Nike Pumps when I went - not even available in Australia. Lucky I didn't get rolled because every kid in the school knew I had them on.
Rich daddys and girlfriends.
Awesome
Wow what a fantastic community
It's like a third of the console price
If you're buying Digital only, the RRP is literally 50%
This, console and VR and you are looking at around $2k!!
Still cheaper than a 4090 🤦
@buckster: Yeah true although in reality you get 4x the performance of a PS5.
You could possibly put together a 4090 PC for $3600.
far out, $800 for the three year old PS5, $300 for the better controller, $900 for the VR2 system.
And some people spend more than that just buying in game currency as dlc. Go figure.
How to buy FIFA cards?
Yea … And I bet you'll spend $2,000 to dine at Salt Bae's restaurant for that arm salt and tic tok video. You know he actually charges $40 for one redbull.
Wait until you hear about the cost of gfx cards these days!
I'd rather get a SCUF or BattleBeaver for the same money.
But they’re not the same money and certainly don’t have the software side of it that comes with Edge.
My last 2 controllers were Beavers and were the same money, and they are fully spec'd. What software or features make this controller so worth it over the competition?
I just went through and fully decked a DualSense out to as close to an Edge controller and this is what I got:
The software for the Edge lets you customise stick tension, dead zones, create profiles for different uses, not too dissimilar to the Elite software but miles ahead of anything a 3rd party controller will offer.
@MaximumEffort777: Don't most games give you deadzone settings? Cod has for years, Halo too. Don't know why that's a need to be built in the software. Stick tension in the software is cool, wonder how well it would work over the lifetime of the controller. BB offer it but have always found the default comfortable. Creating profiles seems rather….gimmicky.
Personally, as an FPS player, I'm taking a Pro pick BB controller (sent ASAP) and the superior Smart Triggers / Back Buttons over the outdated paddle system for $290 + 10% discount (cancelled out by shipping). I can't imagine some gimmicky software being a huge selling point for most. I'm not really sure who this controller is aimed it. I doubt any serious FPS players pick this up over a BB or SCUF, at least.
Damn, and I thought the pro Xbox controllers were exxy 😮
This thing is way, way too expensive for what it offers.
Only 2 rear buttons.
No hall effect / high end stick sensors.
It really doesn't seem to offer a high end deluxe experience, worth that kind of money. Even if you wanna blow some cash on a fun gadget, I don't see what this offers that you just gotta have.
Hall effect? Yuck. Wake me when they’re load cell. 😂
So… it's an Apple product? Late to the market, copying others, less features, more expensive? And fanbois!
(Paddles are great though, but I couldn't use any less than the four on my Elite controller now)
Yeah I was really hoping to hear how it absoloutely blows the Elite away, does everything you could imagine, omg gotta have it, don't care how expensive.
Yeah nope.
I don't even use the paddles on my elite, but it's easily the best controller I've ever used to this day.
Shame about their durability, I did have to return one with an unresponsive face button.
How exactly does a pro controller not copy others? It’s not some secret patent. You could say Xbox copied others with the Elite.
It even has less battery life than the original controller which is crazy.
not worth
Cost of almost 5 regular DualSenses on sale.
![[Pre Order] DualSense Edge Wireless Controller - PlayStation 5 $305 Delivered @ Amazon AU](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/99/751699.jpg?h=944cb43d)
Odds that this is still active come launch day to match at EB, slim.
Odds that EB match alongside their preorder offer, slightly less slim.
But it's a good deal for a hardware preorder, even if it's grossly overpriced to begin with.