Better than Nolan's Batman. Better than the Joker. Not comparing to Marvel movies because those are for kids, like 6-12.
Man of Steel is the Best Superhero Movie
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Like kids with parents will not be allowed to enter a cinema
Bait, definitely bait.
So good they decided to can the planned sequel (with a great actor) and start again from scratch because they've been unable to come up with a formula that can compete against those Marvel kids movies?
$ doesn't necessarily mean a good movie. Captain Marvel made $1B.
Its the "best" superhero movie in the same way "Batman v Superman:Dawn of Justice" is the "best" Batman movie….
The Dark Knight Rises is the best Batman movie.
TDKR is a bit overrated. Batman Begins is a much better "Batman" movie IMO.
Yes, I agree, Batman begins is highly underrated, in the shadow of TDK (which is undeniably a great movie albeit too long).
Man of Steel is the
BestWorst Superhero MovieFTFY.
Try watching it first
I have watched it lol.
I don't think so. Name a superhero movie better than it then.
@spychiatrist: Man of Steel is appealing if you like seeing constant explosions. Superman crashes into a silo? Explosion. Superman crashes into a skyscraper? Explosion. It's basically a destruction porn movie.
Any Marvel movie (except maybe The Eternals) is way better than Man of Steel. I would rate The Incredible Hulk, The Avengers, Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings and Infinity War much higher than the destruction porn snore fest that is Man of Steel.
The S doesn't stand for hope either, it stands for Superman.
not the best movie for sure, But I'd argue that it has the best super hero fight scenes, its very punchy and impactful and you can actually feel that two gods are fighting, not like the colorful flashy garbage marvel and most of other DC movies have.
My thoughts - superhero movies, in general, have completely destroyed my enjoyment of cinema. Whilst I would have enjoyed them once in a while, they've completely taken over. There are practically no more character dramas, historical epics, general "slice of life" comedy, or even like action/adventure that is commercially successful enough to be mainstream anymore. The reality is that movies like Good Will Hunting, Gladiator, Sleepless in Seattle, Titanic - most of my other "all time favourites" that I actually come back to will never be made in today's market.
Easier and more profitable to churn out endless garbage, and the associated merch, to manchildren year after year.
they've completely taken over.
It does feel a bit like that when Disney/Marvel announce their line-up of 5-6 movies per year (or whatever their cadence is).
I have noticed the past few months when checking out what's showing that there's hardly anything that appeals to me. Not sure if it can solely be attributed to superhero movies though, I would say streaming and COVID-19 had a negative affect on cinema as well.
If you haven't seen Everything Everywhere All at Once, I would highly recommend watching that as it was definitely refreshing and unique.
Not sure if it can solely be attributed to superhero movies though, I would say streaming and COVID-19 had a negative affect on cinema as well.
I think it is the over-commercialisation of cinema that has resulted in movies prioritising "what sells" over artistic merit.
This isn't to say that movies have not always prioritised commercial success, but rather, that there is just less license in today's world to be able to "try something different" on artistic merit.
I'm sure there's cultural elements to all of it, but superhero movies cater to this "cool big explosions" trope that people love, simple themes and dumbed down character interactions mean that it appeals to the widest audience across different ages, cultures, interests, simpler narratives mean that people don't have to be as invested in what's going on. You catch the drift, all leads to an erosion of the "art" behind cinema.
I think it is the over-commercialisation of cinema that has resulted in movies prioritising "what sells" over artistic merit.
Hmm, makes sense in this day and age where everything seems to be mainly driven by massive profits (e.g. move to subscription services). I wouldn't discount the entirety of cinema just yet, there are some gems that are coming out even if they are fewer and far between. Foreign cinema might not be as commercialised yet either, for example Korea has released some really good movies the past few years (e.g. Parasite, Burning).
I'm sure there's cultural elements to all of it, but superhero movies cater to this "cool big explosions" trope that people love, simple themes and dumbed down character interactions mean that it appeals to the widest audience across different ages, cultures, interests, simpler narratives mean that people don't have to be as invested in what's going on.
I don't think people watch superhero movies to see "cool big explosions" (unless they're fans of Man of Steel). When I think about it, the themes in superhero movies aren't really that complex by nature, even when they try to make them to be which is fair point. Ultimately the main overarching theme of superhero movies is the triumph of good over evil, which I always has a timeless and universal appeal.
simpler narratives mean that people don't have to be as invested in what's going on.
I think people are invested but in a different way; they're invested in the entire universe of characters. Maybe not so much in the current phase/saga because the heroes don't really stand out that much, but I distinctly remember in the first phase/saga that people were very invested, there'd always be a buzz in the cinema at the end of the movie where it would say "Iron Man will return" or "Thor will return in the Avengers" or whatever.
I think there's been some superhero movie fatigue lately, who knows, that could build up to a point where superhero movies lose a lot of appeal and cinema reverts. I don't think it would be too farfetched for that to happen.
I don't think people watch superhero movies to see "cool big explosions" (unless they're fans of Man of Steel). When I think about it, the themes in superhero movies aren't really that complex by nature, even when they try to make them to be which is fair point.
This is what I meant by "cool big explosions" - like oversimplistic storylines, lots of CGI action…etc. - either way, I agree with what you're saying here.
I think people are invested but in a different way; they're invested in the entire universe of characters. Maybe not so much in the current phase/saga because the heroes don't really stand out that much, but I distinctly remember in the first phase/saga that people were very invested, there'd always be a buzz in the cinema at the end of the movie where it would say "Iron Man will return" or "Thor will return in the Avengers" or whatever.
But it's a different sort of investment - people buy into the hype, but when I say "invested", I'm referring to how much you have to "think" about the movie and how much of it has an impact on you after you've seen it.
Good Will Hunting is an example of such a movie - its characters are well-considered, realistic and its story is quite profound. I remember, upon seeing it for the first time, I genuinely ended up thinking about it for long after I saw it. My point is that, once upon a time, movies were deep stories with cultural significance.
I’d say the same with TV series.
No more shows of 24 episodes a season, going for many many seasons… now streaming it’s 8 eps, and if it’s popular they’ll make a few seasons which ends up about one or maybe two seasons of the old way 24 episodes.Whether you like these or not, they were popular .. Seinfeld, Mash, Blacklist, even Baywatch and Miami Vice .. I reckon streaming services have stopped big shows being made.
Superhero movies are garbage full stop. It's like saying genital warts are the best STD.
So you watched them then. What's the best garbage then?
Agree
”Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman were created as a means of helping a beleaguered nation cope with the aftermath of The Great Depression in the 1930s”
Seems like something is going wrong atm…
Man of Steel is the Best Superhero Movie
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion, man.
Spiderman 2
I disagree, I prefer more humorous superhero movies.
Deadpool was pretty funny.
Kick-ass wasn't bad.
The Tick has some hilarious moments, but a bit too ordinary most of the time
The first Ironman movie had some funny moments.
Venom was much better than I expected, considering the reviews. Quite funny.I prefer more humorous superhero movies
This is what WB gets it wrong with DC movies and why the DC movies have never really succeeded. They try way too hard to make them dark, serious and mature. That simply doesn't work for all superhero movies. Maybe the odd one here and there depending on the character (e.g. Batman) but making a Superman movie dark and serious doesn't work.
Do you identify as a woman (i dno how else to word this in a PC way these days), because anything with Henry Cavill for me is yeyyyyy
You could identify as a chair and Henry Cavill would be 'yeyyyyy'
True 😂😂😂
Rolling Stones wrote that Black Panther is the best movie. Wakanda forever!
Most thought provoking and interesting superhero movie is Watchmen.
Superman returns is better than man of steel!
No that belongs to Kick Ass
Mystery men 1999
Batman (1989)
Jack is awesome and Keaton pulls it off too
"Never Rub Another Man’s Rhubarb!"
"This Town Needs An Enema!"https://www.brostrick.com/guide/best-quotes-from-batman-1989…
.I agree that Marvel is for kids, I never watch them. The best superhero movie for me was a low budget indie affair called Freaks (2018) about a young girl whose parents are hiding their powers while keeping her locked in their home. A slow-burn scifi. 9/10.
I loved it but wish he didn't you know what to you know who.
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Man of Steel is PG-13 lmao