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I grabbed these last time around and they're bloody brilliant, these have no washers and it drives me crazy having dripping taps from people not turning the tap off properly or turning it off so hard they stuff the washer so it starts dripping anyway.
These can easily be set for a horizontal or vertical arangement, they look great and have lowered my blood pressure.

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  • troyww on 06/03/2023 - 14:39
    +2

    drives me crazy having dripping taps from people not turning the tap off properly or turning it off so hard they stuff the washer so it starts dripping anyway.

    I feel your pain .

  • AMLagonda on 06/03/2023 - 14:43

    Nice, I was looking at these in bunnings.

  • Hinee on 06/03/2023 - 14:45

    Normal price on this listing is $59.99, though was down to $47.99 late Feb

    https://www.joinhoney.com/shop/amazon-au/p/14383961556549245…

  • Igaf on 06/03/2023 - 14:49

    Ha ha. Yep, know what you mean. Didn't matter what washers I installed or how much I implored family to go easy on the washers. We installed these / similar around the house to replace ageing washer taps a couple of years ago. Only neg is that when they're on they're noticeably noisier in the pipes. Have you noticed that?

    • Pace210 on 06/03/2023 - 14:53
      +9

      I didn't hear a sound before or after, now I'm going to hear it, thanks.

      • Igaf on 06/03/2023 - 14:56

        lol. Sorry. Your pipes might be better insulated. Our 50yo house is on a sloping block so noise is amplified somewhat.

        • boretentsu on 06/03/2023 - 15:01

          Now you have another problem to manage, getting your family members to close the tap off gently to minimise the water hammer.

          • Igaf on 06/03/2023 - 15:30

            @boretentsu: No hammer with these and on/off requires no effort. The shaft itself blocks the water. Noise is really only noticeable when taps are partially (<~80%) on.

  • rickb on 06/03/2023 - 14:53

    Any recommendations for the kitchen sink? This is where my drip drip grief occurs.

  • ce5himm on 06/03/2023 - 15:04

    I can easily feel your pain

  • soan papdi on 06/03/2023 - 15:06
    +2

    I'm no DIY person but my plumber was totally against these because apparently it's hard to get the alignment right and that if a tiny piece of dirt sits between the two ceramic disks, it cannot be cleaned or repaired and will eventually start dripping. Clearly the experiences of others in this thread is different. confused

    • JimB on 06/03/2023 - 15:52

      Maybe your plumber is correct, but I've used ceramic disc spindle taps in my own home, and in 2 of my rental properties without a problem.

      Tenants can't overtighten ceramic disc spindle taps like they can with the washer/jumper valves.

      • BeauKilla on 06/03/2023 - 16:08
        +1

        Yes they can, there is a small lug that stops the tap, this can be broken and the tap will keep spinning, the tap will still work but you will need to manually stop it in the right place to get the water to stop. Your tenant may complain about that idk

        • bamzero on 06/03/2023 - 17:44

          Correct. Not completely broken but one of our taps has worn or something so closing the tap all the way now goes past the closed point and starts dribbling again. Need to back it off a touch to close the tap properly.

      • Igaf on 06/03/2023 - 16:13

        As our now retired plumber said, it's far cheaper to buy a new spindle (or tap) than pay a plumber. Horses for courses.

        • freesteakknives on 06/03/2023 - 17:25

          But who's going to replace the tap or spindle ? Still need a plumber ?

    • pformag on 06/03/2023 - 15:53
      +1

      I've had similar to these installed in my house over 10 years ago, still perfect working order.

    • zonra on 06/03/2023 - 15:56

      I’ve had these for years and haven’t had those issues (yet). Definitely better ROI compared to washer taps. Sounds like your plumber wants to keep their income stream.

      • BeauKilla on 06/03/2023 - 16:11

        More like the plumber can't service them when they fail, these spindles used to be quite expensive to replace compared to a washer.

  • [Deactivated] on 06/03/2023 - 15:10

    I'm against these, washers are cheap and easy to replace, just subjective personal opinion though.

    • I like freestuff on 06/03/2023 - 15:19
      +1

      Against using a tap without a washer?

      • doxxie on 06/03/2023 - 15:45

        there is a bottom washer visible in the 3rd photo (red).
        if that deteriorates, you basically need to buy a whole new tap.
        because they are just about impossible to find the right size in order to hold the 2 ceramic discs together.

        normal tap washers are available anywhere.

        • JimB on 06/03/2023 - 15:50
          +1

          You don't need to buy a whole new tap.

          You can replace just the spindles.

          • doxxie on 06/03/2023 - 15:51
            +1

            @JimB: sorry, yes, spindle. if you can find one the same size, yes

        • lomie on 07/03/2023 - 01:25

          That red bottom washer doesn't move and so is not likely to wear out.

  • pizzaguy on 06/03/2023 - 15:10
    +1

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    So all 10 discounted sets are claimed.

    On my side, I don't get why people would have two separate taps for cold and hot water. But it's somewhat a step forward from having separate outlets for cold and hot water on one sink (doesn't apply to showers, obviously).

    • sjobeck on 06/03/2023 - 15:43
      +1

      Separates much better than AIO IMHO. I have both - one in each shower would choose separate hot and cold anyday. I get much more precision in terms of temp and flow rate

    • john_conner on 06/03/2023 - 16:02
      +1

      Separate spindles for looks I guess or legacy applications before mixers were invented. Laundry taps?

    • Prizm on 06/03/2023 - 16:36
      +2

      For sinks, I'm all for a mixer, but our shower is separate hot and cold. And I'm starting to think it's a good thing. It seems to me that mixers have less water pressure? Since if you want more hot, it means closing off the cold. Rather than keeping the cold tap constant and separately increasing the hot tap.

      Many mixers also seem to have poor fine control, which you can't tell until it's installed. Getting the right temperature often means fine-tuning the mixer lever to an exact millimeter, and it's too easy to overshoot the mark. It's like there's only a very narrow range of 'usable' temperatures before it gets too hot or too cold. Or maybe it's because I'm not using an $800 mixer XD

      • freesteakknives on 06/03/2023 - 17:36

        Generally that's all going to come down to what pressure is coming from the mains. Hot water is getting pushed out through your tap because cold water is coming in from the mains. Then the flow rate limitation will be the diameter of the pipe that leads to the shower head. But if you have gravity feed hot water then a mixer sucks for sink and shower

    • [Deactivated] on 06/03/2023 - 17:25
      +1

      Unless your mixer is expensive, it's usually a much nicer experience to mix on separate taps.

  • kamoy on 06/03/2023 - 15:14

    do they make basin hot and cold separates as i can’t see any on amazon …not sure why these days taps are leaking 6 months after changing seals with my current taps, i concur it’s maddening and slow torture ..drip drip drip

    • Igaf on 06/03/2023 - 15:36
      +1

      Could be squashed washers or your tap needs reseating. Try a different sort of washer first.

  • mrTT on 06/03/2023 - 15:18

    Coming from a non-plumber skilled person, is this just a handle or includes all the inner pieces as well. Basically no other pieces required and just install these to the holes on the wall? My taps are problematic and I’m sick of changing washers. This being washerless would be awesome

    • Igaf on 06/03/2023 - 15:41
      +1

      Complete units, as per the pics. Very simple to install, just make sure you get the hot/cold right so they turn "logically'. Ours had red/blue bases to distinguish.

      • doxxie on 06/03/2023 - 15:49
        +1

        the red/blue bases are washers. if they fail you basically have to buy a new set of spindles.
        they generally arent easy to find the same size especially with no-name taps.
        that washer is what holds the 2 ceramic discs together to open and close your tap.

  • llllllllllllll on 06/03/2023 - 15:21

    Can I confirm this can be used to replace the knobs (https://i.etsystatic.com/31460504/r/il/199236/4523601054/il_…)?

    • Igaf on 06/03/2023 - 15:46

      They replace the whole tap, screw into your pipe assuming you have standard fittings (most will be). Just needs some plumbers tape (for threads - pink is best ime) and a wrench. Turn off water connection obviously.

  • jumpypotato53 on 06/03/2023 - 15:21

    Can I just remove the old cartridge and install the new one? Is there anything else that needs to be done?

    • Igaf on 06/03/2023 - 15:48

      Turn off water. Use plumbers tape on thread seal. Pretty much it.

      • Igaf on 06/03/2023 - 16:00

        Lol. Negged by an overcharging plumber presumably. It's an easy DIY job for most people. If you need help google and watch before starting the job.

        If you have uncontrolled temp hot (ie hot water which will burn) this might be an idea for you: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/13463757/redir

        • BeauKilla on 06/03/2023 - 16:14

          Probably negged for advising thread tape on tapware. It's also easy to stuff up and then you have water leaking into your wall.

          • Igaf on 06/03/2023 - 16:16

            @BeauKilla: Why is that (tape on tap) a problem? In most cases there's nothing complex about applying tape or doing the job yourself if you're moderately competent, as our plumber said to me himself. He's retired and a friend of a friend so doesn't bullsh1t.

            • BeauKilla on 06/03/2023 - 16:35

              @Igaf: The red rings (body washers) are designed to swell and self seal. Thread tape will not do this and might be ok when installed, but could leak at a later date. Also the tape can make it hard to get the spindle out after a few years, and cause strain on the breech (ie more leaks). I'm not against diy but there are risks

              • Igaf on 06/03/2023 - 16:45

                @BeauKilla: Tape actually helps not hinders removal of screw threads in my limited experience. Any evidence that soft teflon tape causes strain on the breech? I agree there's always some risk with DIY. On the other hand there are plenty of jobs easily and safely done by moderately competent adults, and this is one of them.

  • Jonzay on 06/03/2023 - 15:24

    These things are great. I installed them myself and had zero issues, apart from a cosmetic flaw of the alignment being sliiiiightly off centre when turned off (a fault with my setup, not a fault with the product)

  • purple1 on 06/03/2023 - 15:42
    +1

    I prefer 1/2 turn for showers to give finer control.

    • Prizm on 06/03/2023 - 15:46
      +1

      yeah, 1/4 turn for a shower seems way to narrow a range.

    • doxxie on 06/03/2023 - 15:47

      agree would not recommend 1/4 turn in shower

    • Igaf on 06/03/2023 - 15:50

      Quarter turn with water saving shower head works for us but we have temp controlled hot water which probably helps

  • JimB on 06/03/2023 - 15:49
    +2

    I like ceramic disc spindle taps.

    However 1/4 turn ceramic disc taps are dangerous for kids and the elderly.

    Look for 1/2 turn or 3/4 turn ceramic disc taps.

  • pformag on 06/03/2023 - 15:57
    +1

    We have a couple of sets around the house. Our plumber install the hot so it turns on by turning from the 3pm position to 12pm position, that way if a child pulls down it won't turn on. The cold is positioned at 9pm,turning to 6pm. So when they are off, it sits level with each other.

  • CheapGit on 06/03/2023 - 15:58
    +2

    1/4,1/2, 3/4 turn all the same insert idea with 2 silicone seals, a brass washer, 2 ceramic inserts and 2 rubber o-rings on the spindle shaft.
    At some stage they will leak, either through calcium build up between the ceramic discs, o-ring failure or if your're really unlucky some grit in the water gets between the ceramic discs and scratches them.

    Bunnings don't sell the repair kits, even Reece plumbing last time i asked didn't they just want to sell you a complete spindle, but you can get them online from eBay or Amazon if cleaning doesn't work first.

    I've got quite hard water at my place, so usually some end up leaking after a year. Generally, i just end up taking them apart and cleaning the scale from the ceramic discs and body. I've had couple o-rings go on the spindle which caused slight leaking at the spindle top.

    This UK store gives you an idea of the parts and various sizes, though their shipping cost is way too high https://www.tapmagician.co.uk/NSRangeSpares.aspx

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