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Eating vegan doesn’t mean missing out on the flavour, texture and diversity of food that meat eaters love. Armed with this book, you’ll discover how to create the perfect plant-based meats – sure to sate the most dedicated carnivore.

From soybeans to seitan, konjaku to mushrooms, there is little that can’t be achieved using plant-based ingredients, and the Vegan Butcher – aka Zacchary Bird – is here to show you how.

Learn how to create meaty textures through the power of freezing tofu, transform a bag of flour into chewy seitan that will trick even the most diehard chicken fans, or play mad scientist with methylcellulose to make the perfect plant-based burgers. With step-by-step visual guides and more than 130 killer recipes, The Vegan Butcher will completely change the way you think about vegan food.

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- ihfree on 03/05/2023 - 11:40
  
  +1
  
  Is synthetic leather a thing?
  - trapper on 03/05/2023 - 12:28
    
    I am ok with terms like 'synthetic meat', 'artificial meat', 'fake meat' etc
    - ihfree on 03/05/2023 - 12:29
      
      +1
      
      PU leather?
    - afoveht on 03/05/2023 - 12:39
      
      +5
      
      I am ok with
      
      Look at Mr Oxford Webster Macquarie Britannica here doling out the permission slips!
      - trapper on 03/05/2023 - 12:49
        
        @afoveht: Get used to it, I make the rules around here. :D
- stingypants on 03/05/2023 - 12:14
  
  +6
  
  Peanut butter, coconut milk…it's amazing how language can adapt to changing diets, isn't it?
  - trapper on 03/05/2023 - 12:33
    
    +2
    
    Coconut milk is another misnomer.
    
    It should be called nut juice ok.
    - CrowReally on 03/05/2023 - 13:29
      
      +1
      
      make sure you underline that bit when you write the letter to coles, yeah
    - besttraveltech on 04/05/2023 - 12:08
      
      -1
      
      You know that coconut isn't a nut, right?
- donm on 03/05/2023 - 13:30
  
  +2
  
  And what is a hot dog?
  - trapper on 03/05/2023 - 13:53
    
    Dog has been used as a synonym for sausage since the 1800s, so I'll give that a pass.
    - smartazz104 on 03/05/2023 - 13:55
      
      +2
      
      Probably back when it actually contained dog /s
    - ihfree on 03/05/2023 - 13:57
      
      Are we freezing the language as it is now for all eternity?
  - bdl on 04/05/2023 - 16:43
    
    not hotdog
- FredAstair on 03/05/2023 - 17:19
  
  +2
  
  ironically 'plant based' originally referred to a diet low in meat, and high in non meat.
  its just vegans stole it and confused us for what is a healthy diet.
Lululuke on 03/05/2023 - 11:42

+3

Came for the comments… was not disappointed 😂
povertytrap on 03/05/2023 - 12:12

+1

Thanks OP.
Pest85 on 03/05/2023 - 12:15

+1
Don't worry! These hamburgers are plant-based.

MMM! This is delicious! What plant are these made from?

A Meat processing plant!
- ihfree on 03/05/2023 - 12:43
  
  hilarious_and_original.wmv
thousandsuns on 03/05/2023 - 13:11

-1

What is the obsession with people trying to artificially change vegan products to look like or taste like meet? People who bandwagon the vegan movement are against animal products yet they do not care any less when it comes to making food look like and taste like something they are strongly against eating themsleves. Is this hypocrisy? There is no such thing as plant based meat, meat is and will always be meat. Geez.
- unelectric on 03/05/2023 - 13:59
  
  +4
  
  Vegans have an issue with the ethics of meat, not its taste. Is this really a complicated concept?
  - FredAstair on 03/05/2023 - 17:21
    
    yes.
    but vegans do try to dumb it down some
- Stivo on 03/05/2023 - 14:22
  
  +1
  
  They do this on purpose to get attention. Thats why instead of calling this a vegan cook book, they had to use the word butchery to trigger people on purpose. They revel in the shit storm they create.
  - ihfree on 03/05/2023 - 14:34
    
    +3
    
    Only you are in control of your emotional state.
  - stingypants on 03/05/2023 - 14:59
    
    +1
    
    Look at the comments on this thread - it's not vegans who are creating the shitstorm
    - FredAstair on 03/05/2023 - 17:23
      
      look at those protests.
      its not non-vegans who are creating tge shitstorm
- stingypants on 03/05/2023 - 14:55
  
  +1
  
  What is the obsession with whether vegans eat food that looks or tastes like meat? Nobody is policing your food choices, why do you care about others' choices?
  - thousandsuns on 03/05/2023 - 15:30
    
    +1
    
    Because it's hypocrisy to try and make vegan food into something that does not have the same characterisations as non vegan food. It's the same with E cigarettes. They are a substitute for normal cigarettes but just as bad but you want your mind to think that you're taking the healthier option. In terms of plant meat, it never was or never will be meat so what's with fascination of trying to turn it into something you don’t want to put in your stomach? Sounds very stupid and hypocritical to me.
    - stingypants on 03/05/2023 - 16:08
      
      +1
      
      A lot of vegans like the taste of meat, just not where it comes from. I don't know why this is so hard for some people to understand.
    - Arty.R on 03/05/2023 - 16:30
      
      Just accept it's not for you bud
lostgoat on 03/05/2023 - 13:17

I reckon the USA has a play to sue the use of meat by Vegans . Trump controls the Supreme Court .
This country we have no chance.
- smartazz104 on 03/05/2023 - 13:56
  
  +1
  
  Sounds like typical MAGA thinking, which is odd because they aren’t usually know for that. Maybe they can shoot the tofu as well for infringing on their rights.
- stingypants on 03/05/2023 - 14:56
  
  +2
  
  Wow, what an incredibly important and efficient use of our legal system.
- FredAstair on 03/05/2023 - 17:24
  
  you did it.
  you were the one who tried to bring politics in here..
  shame on you tbh
unelectric on 03/05/2023 - 13:56

+3

For what it’s worth the author is legit, have followed his work/creations on FB for a while.
pizzaguy on 03/05/2023 - 14:04

+1

This whole deal is such a meme source.

On a serious note, it's analogical to xeno- and homophobic stances like "not in my suburb!" or "why do they have to do it in public?". Of course, dietary/ethical choices of this kind are not as serious, but there you go - you can have that laugh, lawfully. And you'll always have - despite some of your paranoid thoughts that somebody is forcing you to buy this book and eat an eggplant disquised as some minced meat. You get to choose whether you just let it slide in your heads or you start being crude and impolite for no reason.

You had a chance to leave the whole thing alone, but you thought you had some witty, original remarks to share. Well, you proved otherwise - every other comment is the same; you don't read, you have not a bit of good will or just can't grasp the intentional irony of words "vegan/plant butcher". I guess you find your true fun time elsewhere, but it shouldn't entitle you to be your moron avatars here, in such shitty way.

Sucks to be around you, but luckily such childish, trumpesque types aren't in my bubble IRL. And I'm out of school too :)
- FredAstair on 03/05/2023 - 17:28
  
  +1
  
  i guess youve never heard to the annying vegans protesting and causing financial issues for farmers, butchers, and restaurants, and also upsetting the general public why they try to sit down and enjoy a nice night out at a restaurant, etc, etc etc.
  
  its more than what you claim here.
  its also not beneificial for the the planet, veganism.
  
  its not about people making fun of something they dont understand.
  its more about peolle making fun of something the DO understand.
  - pizzaguy on 03/05/2023 - 18:22
    
    +3
    
    its more about peolle making fun of something the DO understand.
    
    Care to provide some sources to back the "not beneificial for the the planet, veganism." line? Or is it FredAstair-who-understands' logic?
    
    Of course it's not good for farmers, butchers and restaurants :D Just like people realising deep frying is not healthy is not good for cooking oil producers. Just like gun ban is not the best for weapon manufacturers.
    
    Also I'm totally intrigued when was the last time you were upset by all those protesting vegans.
    - FredAstair on 03/05/2023 - 21:13
      
      -3
      
      no need for sources, and these soeak for themselves:
      
      Monoculture agriculture: The production of vegan food, such as soybeans or corn, can rely on monoculture farming practices that can damage soil quality, reduce biodiversity, and contribute to soil erosion.
      Intensive farming practices: The demand for plant-based foods can lead to intensive farming practices that can contribute to deforestation, water pollution, and other environmental problems.
      
      Transportation and storage: Plant-based foods may require more transportation and storage than locally sourced animal products, which can contribute to carbon emissions.
      
      Nutritional deficiencies: A poorly planned vegan diet may lack essential nutrients, such as vitamin B12, omega-3 fatty acids, and iron, which can have negative health impacts.
      
      Food waste: Plant-based diets may not reduce food waste, as fruits and vegetables can spoil quickly, leading to food waste and related environmental issues.
      
      I get it. Youve been feed info that tells you veganism is the way. Unfortunately it isnt. Its a pipe dream.
      
      I know youre confirmation bias will likely disagree with me here too. I get it. Always good though to try and keep an open mind about things.
      - donm on 03/05/2023 - 22:28
        
        +3
        
        @FredAstair: Here's an article from the United Nations discussing the environmental impact of different types of foods.
        https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/science/climate-issues/f…
        
        Meat is responsible much of the world's deforestation, especially the Amazon rainforest.
        
        Vegans don't just eat soy and corn. Your argument about the vegan diet leading to monoculture agriculture is a bit weak.
        
        Speaking of monoculture agriculture, a lot of the world's livestock are fed grain and soy. 80% of the world's soybean crop is fed to livestock.
        
        FredAstair on 04/05/2023 - 19:33
        
        @donm: nah. didnt make oit its a monomculture. that was just your take on it.
        it was an example of hypocrocy of vegans.
        
        yes.. consumption of too much meat is an issue. doesnt mean we have to all become vegan to fix it.
        
        and the UN… remind me about how thyere going with their ukraine debarckle again…
      - pizzaguy on 03/05/2023 - 23:21
        
        +1
        
        @FredAstair: That's just sheer lack of understanding and one shallow debate. @donm may have more patience. Enjoy your meals.
        
        FredAstair on 04/05/2023 - 19:34
        
        -1
        
        @pizzaguy: yes.. vegan logic is a sheer lack lf understanding and one shallow debate. thanj you for your contribution.
        
        pizzaguy on 04/05/2023 - 20:03
        
        +2
        
        @FredAstair: Oh Fred, I just can't stop :D You fail to grasp you're a walking example of that ostentacious person who states their twisted logic and unwarranted views, and who YOU think vegos are. Hilarious irony. Chill and have a look at what you're posting. It's one basket case now.
        
        You're making me feel I'm a charity pointing all of this out to you, however I truly hope you don't act like that IRL.
        
        FredAstair on 06/05/2023 - 16:17
        
        @pizzaguy: so condescending and so wrong.
        
        like trying to teach a pidgeon how to play chess.
        
        Alejandro on 05/05/2023 - 07:57
        
        +3
        
        @FredAstair: It's actually embarrassing to have such a biased view and not use the mountains on available data and information to form a logical response.
        
        FredAstair on 06/05/2023 - 16:18
        
        @Alejandro: correct.
        it is embarrasing for vegans to have this kind of vboased view…yada yada yada
      - ihfree on 06/05/2023 - 09:39
        
        +2
        
        @FredAstair: Yikes! Talk about flawed logic and copium.
        
        donm on 06/05/2023 - 10:28
        
        +2
        
        @ihfree: I'm starting to think that criticising consumption of meat is too taboo. It's the same with criticism of consumption of alcohol. People get really fired up defending their vices.
        
        FredAstair on 06/05/2023 - 16:18
        
        @ihfree: exactly. vegans just domt get it though. they think they know beter
        
        ihfree on 06/05/2023 - 16:20
        
        @FredAstair: Isn't that what you just demonstrated posting that? Without, you prefacing your post with this:
        
        it was an example of hypocrocy of vegans
        
        it just looks like you being wrong with your "logical thinking" and making excuses after the fact.
        
        Alejandro on 06/05/2023 - 18:06
        
        @FredAstair: I'm not vegan, I'm just not a moron.
  - ihfree on 03/05/2023 - 18:29
    
    +1
    
    Also keen to hear something that backs this
    
    its also not beneificial for the the planet, veganism.
    - FredAstair on 06/05/2023 - 16:18
      
      dont thank me.
      thank science
      - ihfree on 06/05/2023 - 16:22
        
        +1
        
        @FredAstair: The one link we have which isn't based on your thinking disproves your initial post and assumptions that you made.
        
        So, thank you science for proving FredAstair wrong.
        
        FredAstair on 06/05/2023 - 16:24
        
        @ihfree: i still dont get how you just think its my thinking alone.
        
        wow.. i guess youd be the ones lining up to lynch anyone badk then when someone was shwoing that the earth wasnt in fact flat.
        
        ihfree on 06/05/2023 - 16:26
        
        +1
        
        @FredAstair: Once again - got anything to back your logical thinking? - anything from outside of your head?
        
        FredAstair on 06/05/2023 - 21:33
        
        @ihfree: seeiously.
        how condescending and rude are you¿¡
        
        dont be a lazy git.
        stop just following your confirmation bias.
        and look for the facts that contradict your own beliefs.
        wow¡
        
        im done pandering you small cult of ozbargainer knowitalls.
        quick to dismiss others yet dont question yourselves.
        
        man. even a quick google will find what youre asking me for.
        
        ihfree on 06/05/2023 - 21:45
        
        @FredAstair: You have 38 responses on a post that is irrelevant to you. This is a cook book, ffs. You seem to be here complaining about vegan protesters and representing a vegan diet based on the worst case scenarios.
        
        You're making assumptions -
        
        no need for sources, and these soeak for themselves
        
        - and then saying it's an example of example of the "hypocrocy" of vegans. You're not here in good faith and you know it. Now, you're playing victim. Sad.
        
        FredAstair on 06/05/2023 - 22:23
        
        @ihfree:
        
        You have 38 responses on a post that is irrelevant to you.
        
        such an assumption.
        
        This is a cook book, ffs.
        
        really. i thoight it was a boat
        
        You seem to be here complaining about vegan protesters and representing a vegan diet based on the worst case scenarios.
        
        nah. just stating the hypocrocy.
        
        You're making assumptions -
        
        incorrect. a decent google search woukd even show you that. but i bet you havent even looked.
        
        no need for sources, and these soeak for themselves
        
        not really.. thats nit actually a thing. the facts i talk about arent exactly hidden from public view.
        
        and then saying it's an example of example of the "hypocrocy" of vegans. You're not here in good faith and you know it. Now, you're playing victim. Sad.
        
        playing the victim. pmsl. thanjs for the lame lecture here.
        Im here becuase of the whole thing surrounding this. But according to you I cant have an opinion. unless it agrees with you.
        
        You just seem to be good at arguing and thus, when someone calls you on it, you try to intimidate them.
        yay for you.
        
        ihfree on 06/05/2023 - 22:27
        
        @FredAstair: Lol, you're hilarious.
        
        What "whole thing surrounding this"?
        
        pizzaguy on 07/05/2023 - 01:29
        
        @ihfree: Obviously a troll, let's stop feeding it.
        
        FredAstair on 07/05/2023 - 16:41
        
        @pizzaguy: no not a troll.
        more someone who stands up to those who just blindly follow their confirmation biases and refuse to be open to other thoughts.
        
        its a shame you judged me so quickly tbh.
        
        even a 2022 Lancet study couldnt categorically say that veganism is good for the planet globally, but only factored into it american demograhics. It also, still favours plant based and not non-meat (no plant based doesnt mean vegan).
        
        I find the 'vegan is best for the planet' logic to utilise the 'Chesterton's Fence' principle.
        
        Also.. before creating a believe in veganism as a global benefit, woukd it not be better for a gradual approach to existing problems surrounding global issues.
        reduce beef overconsumpion, and waste.
        acknowledge that expecting every culture worldwide to stop using meet or animal products isnt sustainable in many developing countries, and finding sustainable solutions for this is more paramount to vegan conversion.
        Finally, changing people unhealthy and sustainable eating habits, as not all vegan diets are healthy or sustainable options but continue to exist.
        
        Its easy to say 'just get rid of it'. Meat in this case.
        Where as surgeons use to say this about the appendix.
        Now they realise this is in fact a mistake and only needs to be removed if it needs to be.
        
        https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/11/221110161230.h…
        
        ihfree on 07/05/2023 - 21:35
        
        @FredAstair: Thank you for a longer more detailed response.
        
        its a shame you judged me so quickly tbh
        
        In combination with the links provided, I feel that your original comments compare an absolute worst case scenario for a vegan diet. To me, it feels like a cherry pick to arrive at a conclusion.
        
        I find the 'vegan is best for the planet' logic to utilise the 'Chesterton's Fence' principle.
        
        I don't think there is any expectation of a sudden change to veganism for the planet. I've never met a vegan who would expect that - you'd likely only see that in activists.
        
        As you have mentioned a reduction in consumption is probably a more realistic approach. I would largely agree with this. Overconsumption of meat is fairly common. Reduction is a easier ask than going vegan/vegetarian and most importantly, more likely to be adopted.
        
        Finally, changing people unhealthy and sustainable eating habits, as not all vegan diets are healthy or sustainable options but continue to exist.
        
        This equally applies to many diets that include meat.
        
        Based on vegans/vegetarians I know and meeting vegans at a film screening (and yes, I know this is anecdotal), there is generally care to avoid some of the scenarios you've mentioned - eg using locally sourced food.
        
        FredAstair on 07/05/2023 - 21:44
        
        @ihfree: stick your condescending response where the sun dont shine.
        
        i really dont really care what you think.
        
        but it was fun to watch you try to justify hiw you felt you couod talk to someone.
        such arrogance.
        
        ihfree on 07/05/2023 - 21:45
        
        @FredAstair: Lol. OK.
        
        FredAstair on 07/05/2023 - 21:46
        
        @ihfree: btw.. didnt even read your response.
        
        as its just words from a troll
        
        ihfree on 07/05/2023 - 21:51
        
        +1
        
        @FredAstair: Well, there were only two words, so I'd imagine it would have been quite a challenge for you./s
        
        condescending response
        
        Arrogance:
        
        no need for sources, and these soeak for themselves:"
        
        Take your own advice, mate. Think about how you present things. I'm not the only one who had a problem with your initial comment. They suggest that, at the very least, you are part of the problem.
        
        Do it or don't - I don't really care one way or the other.
        
        FredAstair on 08/05/2023 - 07:30
        
        @ihfree: lol. hilarious
0z on 03/05/2023 - 17:33

By the same author of “The virgin prostitute”?
- pizzaguy on 03/05/2023 - 18:23
  
  Haha, sex worker jokes, that's hilarious, 0z.
  
  Did you try it at the fam table?
Miss B on 03/05/2023 - 20:14

+2

As with many other commenters, I get super mad when other people make different food choices than I do, especially when they choose not to eat animal carcasses. It really offends my delicate sensibilities. Words cannot express the rage exploding from within me right now.
bargain huntress on 03/05/2023 - 22:40

+2

Ok so serious question for any nutritionists, dieticians, long term vegetarians and long term vegans who have been told by a real doctor that they are healthy and not deficient.

I hate eating meat. I do not enjoy its taste smell or texture. Cooking it is gross. On top of this eating it sometimes gives me anxiety because i am an animal lover.
In summary if i could never eat meat again and be healthy i would be happy.

My question is is it actually possible to eat a vegan diet and be healthy?

Because every vegan i know has had to give up eventually and cheat often. For example by pretending that muscles arent really animals so that they can get some b12.
- WeePaulie on 03/05/2023 - 23:20
  
  +3
  
  It absolutely is…I've been vegan for some time and my sister has been for over 25 years. It's really not difficult to make the change if that's what you want to do. The evidence is irrefutable on this and it's well proven that a vegan diet is safe for all ages. As with any diet a well balanded one is also important.
  
  Just an edit: I've never had any issues with B12 myself, though you can get vegan cruelty free multivitamins if needed.
  
  Personally, I feel a lot better knowing I'm doing as little harm as possible.
  
  Tha ks for posting this…bought myself a copy and looking forward to trying some new things!
- Kholtien on 04/05/2023 - 00:54
  
  +3
  
  From the government https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/vegetarian-and-vegan-diets
  
  most other government dietetic websites also say the same thing, it's both healthy and easy when you get used to it. I've been vegan for 6 years (and vegetarian a year before that) and while that is not particularly long term, I'm as healthy as I was before I went vego. If you want to eat super healthy and whole foods, plant based, you can and it's one of the healthiest ways to be, full stop. If you wanna be a junk food vegan, then that's if not healthy, will not leave you deficient as long as you make sure to eat a variety of foods. The protein argument is way overblown, there are vegan body builders and power lifters, as well as vegan runners, and athletes among pretty much every discipline. The only nutrient not naturally available on a vegan diet is Vitamin B12 which is often supplemented in vegan food products you buy at the store and is super cheap anyways.
- stingypants on 04/05/2023 - 07:02
  
  +2
  
  Echoing what others have said here - veganism is completely healthy as long as you think a little bit about what you eat. I’ve been vegan for 3 years (and vegetarian for 20 before that) and apart from having a bit of a gut thanks to too much beer I am pretty healthy.
  
  The protein myth has been well and truly debunked now. B12 is the only thing it’s hard to get from plants, but a simple vitamin supplement fixes that. (Interestingly B12 is actually made by a soil microbe, so up until relatively recently humans could get all they need by consuming traces of dirt on their veges. Cows are only a good source of B12 because they don’t wash their grass before eating).
  
  Highly recommend watching ‘The game changers’ on Netflix. It’s about vegan athletes and covers all the health stuff in great detail. Good luck!
  - lostgoat on 04/05/2023 - 07:05
    
    The thread is full of people that aren't too bright .
    There is nothing wrong with being a Vegan . Just don't use words of butcher and meat .
    End of the simple story .
    - pizzaguy on 04/05/2023 - 09:58
      
      +3
      
      Just don't use words of butcher and meat .
      
      Are meat roses alright then? What about all fleshy fruits? :)
      
      Why are some people afraid that others may be confused by the somewhat humorous "vegan butcher" term? I wonder if there was a person who bought shredded "meat" of an alleged "mock duck" species. Or is it just a serious pet peeve?
      
      I'm all in for some new names (and observing how meat becomes gradually an archaic term for food items), but at the same time it's a little disrespectful to one's intelligence to assume people can't tell the diff.

This was posted 1 year 11 days ago, and might be an out-dated deal.

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