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Where is that the max? I have done 980+ with everything turned on with this and have seen others do similar.
Edit: I have the original dream machine not this wifi 6 one so that’s interesting if the newer one performs worse than the old one?
Yeah, the UDM has a quad-core CPU compared to a lower-clocked dual-core in the UDR. These are probably the better pick for 250mbit and below NBN since they have wifi 6 built in
This one comes with wifi 6, 2 Power over Ethernet (Poe) ports and a micro sd card slot for UniFi protect camera recordings so you get some really good features but do sacrifice a bit of cpu power to get it. It’s not a bad trade off to be able to add another access point or camera and not require a Poe switch. It does have its limitations but if you’re aware of them and not bothered by it then it’s a cheap entry into the UniFi ecosystem.
For some reason, Ubiquiti decided it would be a great idea to release the Quad-core UDM in 2019, but then release an almost identical looking, but signficantly lower powered, Dual-core UDR in 2022.
Even when you search online for either a UDM or a UDR, you'll get results for both and to your average Joe, it looks like you're looking at the same product.
Most people will look at this and go "Ohh, this is obviously their latest and greatest product, and it's cheaper than the thing they released a few years ago, I'll get that!" and not realise it's so, so underpowered.
I think it was due to COVID chip shortages. Runs well enough on my network of about 106 devices with 4 access points
I'm not surprised, Ubiquiti is a pretty terrible company on loads of fronts, so backwards design evolutions slot right into everything else.
(Yeah, this will offend a lot of people).
@rumblytangara: Haha yes, lots of Unifi fanbois just as bad as Apple/Android. Religiously defend despite lots of evidence of issues. Fortunately for me it's still better than the mountains of issues and pain I faced with cheaper consumer grade equipment I wasted tens of hours on
@rumblytangara: I just use their APs with mikrotik as the router. I've never had any issues with the APs at all, been very reliable. The only thing I strongly dislike is the apple style interface. I really like the mikrotik 1990s looking interface but can just go back to CLI if you prefer. What are the ubiquiti issues? For me they've been great, updates have been available for years, I can still buy matching devices, no reliability issues etc
@MikeKulls: There are loads of issues.
The hardware is just designed to be cheap- I've done side-by-side comparisons of the PCBs with another manufacturer and it looks like Ubiquiti took a "let's see what we can drop off the PCB and have it still work". i.e. it'll have less than half the caps of competing gear.
The firmware is just famous for being full of bugs, the mantra is "don't run the latest firmware, let someone else beta test it first." They don't document anything… I looked for their Unifi Controller documentation once and it was an entire full version (as in V5.x when they were on V6.x) out of date. i.e. well over a year obsolete.
They don't EOL their gear well, no roadmaps, suddenly the gear just appears on an EOL list with a couple months warning and then you can't operate it anymore unless you stick to old versions of the Unify Controller.
CEO has been caught doing dodgy stock manipulation stuff.
For most people, the gear probably works fine, but overall they seem to have more consistent issues than any other company… certainly they are not as serious as the proper enterprise players, but they're also admittedly a lot cheaper.
I used their gear for five years, I would not touch it again, I'd just go consumer gear instead if I needed to buy new stuff. As it is, I managed to find old enterprise gear which is ticking along much more stably.
agreed i bought this from umart, and returned it advised them it's not gigabit they were like ohhhhhh lol edgerouter lite + tp link deco for the win
Where is the details on that
Came on here to say the very same thing - glad you mentioned it.
I learned the hard way!I ended up returning it within about 2 days of receiving it.
It's borderline false advertising to say it has a 1gbps WAN port, yet gets closer to 600mbit.
please bare in mind
Gotta love the naked truth
Which NBN gives true 1gb. All say around 600mb is average speed anyway
just got 940/50 on a speedtest with ABB.
close enough for me.
Same! Although 945/46 was my last test at 18:30 using a USG-Pro-4 (with everything turned off though 😢)
Launtel gets pretty damn close to 1gb as well.
I have one, paired with a lite using wifi mesh. Love it
Great price for a great router. Paid more a few weeks ago but wish i had done it sooner. I have a lot of devices (70ish) and this handles them all with no issues.
Sorry i am new to routers, my current router sometimes has issues connecting to TV it says no signal but sometimes it connects ok
is this a good router to replace.
I am looking for mesh router, but i can see good reviews on this also is there is anything more with this router as there is option for micro sd\128gb in built harddisk?Yes get this. You can buy separate access points and use them in wireless mesh mode. Note the sdcard is for unifi protect only which is their proprietary security camera brand
can i get this and mesh with my old udm non wifi 6? looks like an access point costs almost as much https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/143234336178
I don't think UDM had built in wifi so you can't wireless mesh it. You can extend network via ethernet though. But look into the U6 Pro or U6 Lite as they're the latest access points.
You will need to look into your circumstances as everyone’s situation is unique. With that disclaimer and not knowing your existing setup, you would likely still keep your ISP modem and put it into bridge mode and turn off its wifi. The UDR would then do all the routing and provide the wifi which would most likely be a solid upgrade to any ISP modem wifi. It has 2 x POE ports so you can get more access points to improve the wifi if it is insufficient. There are loads of videos on YouTube (crosstalk solutions and Mac telecom networks) to make sure you understand what you’re buying.
The MicroSD card option for this is only for use with the IP camera functionality (UniFi Protect) - it doesn't function as a harddrive for anything other than recording camera footage.
If you already have a router that's providing internet and wireless for you, and your only issue is poor wifi signal around your house, I definitely would not recommend getting this router.
It would replace your existing router or could be used in bridge mode as per the comment above, but that may be a bridge too far (pardon the pun) as you mentioned you're new'ish to routers.
While the WiFi range may be better on this than your existing router, it's potentially not a proper solution if WiFi range is your one and only issue.If you have the option to just add an access point around your house which would connect to your existing router that you have, that would be a much better solution than replacing your current router with this one as it would provide WiFi coverage for other parts of your house, rather than just beaming out from wherever your router is situated (which may be in a garage, or a network cabinet or somewhere that is inherently bad for WiFi coverage).
Awesome deal and highly recommend this as a huge step up from consumer grade routers. Highly scalable for growing home networks.
I love my UDR.
One feature to note is using Teleport when travelling. A free VPN where even apps like Kayo work because you are using your home router as the exit point.
Awesome, I've been looking at this after I won a G4 instant camera but then found out I couldn't use it without an access point lol. This is very timely. Thank you OP
I really don't recommend this.
Aside from the massive elephant in the room, which was mentioned here already, where it's advertised as having a 1gb WAN port but can only reach 600-700mbit on a gigabit line.
Unlike the much, much, much cheaper and very old EdgeRouterX, the UDR doesn't have an option to enable hardware offloading, so it does everything through software and it's CPU is absolutely shocking for something released within the last 12 months.You know the processor power is terrible when the company don't even reference it in the main specifications paragraph.
Boot up time is horrendous, which is exacerbated by the fact that a lot of options require a reboot before they're committed (ie. you could end up sitting and waiting for 15-20 minutes if you happen to change certain settings individually).
I think a firmware update for me took about 20-25 minutes in total.The UX looks great, as most Ubiquiti things do, but it's hamstrung by the router's performance.
It can only run, I think, 2 applications at any given time due to the lack of power it has.It also doesn't properly integrate with a Unifi server, if you have one running - so if you have some Unifi APs and a Unifi server running, and you want to have 1 neat portal to access the UDR and all it's options alongside your server and APs, it doesn't work that way.
I'd potentially consider the UDM still, but definitely not the UDR.
The UDM is quad core as opposed to dual core and has a bit more unf.which one do you recommend?
It's fine if you have 500mbit or less fibre, it'll do the job if you don't plan on going beyond that (which would be the case for a lot of people).
It's probably obvious, I'm a little salty over this thing because I bought one and it was a massive disappointment - that's partly my fault, but partly Ubiquiti's fault for their disenguous marketing.
It really depends on your use case - if you just want an all-in-one type of router that'll do most things your average person wants in one package with good WiFi performance and a step into the Ubiquti ecosystem, and show a nice little UI and stuff, it's probably decent.
But if you want to go slightly beyond that, I think it's a disappointment.
It has some applications that run on the router that add some extra functionality, but you can only run 2 of them concurrently and they all eat into the performance of the router as it just doesn't have enough power to handle much of anything.I'm still in the market for a gigabit router that does everything I want - the lazy part of me is looking at the UDM (Unifi Dream Machine), but the not-so-lazy part of me is looking at just getting some ThinClient and running pfsense.
Depends. This is aimed at a step up above your standard consumer mesh setups. It's not going to be the choice for high bandwidth internet home/office networks. My UDR runs fine with 106 devices and 4 access points.
Out of curiousity, do you have DPI/IPS enabled on your UDR with that many devices?
Or do you have Protect or anything else running?I guess "runs fine" is subjective here.
I noticed the CPU usage of mine was literally maxing out doing virtually anything moderately intense which had an adverse affect on everything on the network.
And that was with literally no applications apart from "Network" enabled, as I was trying to see what speed I could get (620mbit out of a potential 1gb).Sorry not even sure how to check lol. My usage is for home automation handling things like lights, split systems, air purifiers, Google Nest hubs/minis, Nest smoke alarms, cameras, etc.
No Unifi protect stuff though as it's out of my budget range.I run Telstra 5G here and it maxes out at about 300mbps down so I don't get close to 1gbps. I don't do any online gaming or huge file transfers either. Just normal streaming stuff.
@10101010101: Ahhh, yep, that's almost the very same as me, except I just recently got fibre and thought I was treating myself by buying the UDR, only to realise it can't attain the full speed of the fibre! :)
The DPI/IPS stuff comes under Ubiqiti's "Threat Management" section - https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/360006893234-UniFi-Gat…
It can basically inspect the traffic coming in to all of your devices, which can give you data and nice visuals on what each device is doing (ie. categorising traffic like social media, streaming etc) and also catch things from a security perspective as well.But it comes at a cost because it adds an extra step into the mix which almost always reduces throughput.
I didn't necessarily buy the UDR with that in mind myself, I bought it for gigabit fibre and because I have a Ubiquti switch, a couple APs and a Unifi server I run and thought it would integrate nicely - it doesn't integrate at all in fact.
I could live with having to access one extra portal for networking, but then it was falling short by about 300-400mbit on speedtests due to it's limitations.I mixed up the hardware specs of the UDR and the UDM (the products look almost identical) and thought the UDR had the quad-core CPU… otherwise I'd probably have not ordered it originally. :(
So, I'm definitely largely at fault, but just trying to warn people from not making the same mistake I did, as I think this is marketed toward the "somewhat" advanced home user, but it falls short in my opinion.
I have an ER-X but I can't get it to work with my bridged modem. Also have two unifi aps I want to use.
I have fairly simple networking needs. Could this replace my erx?700mbit, so it is no good for NBN 1000 plan?
Bang for your buck, nothing gets close. Not many people have or want Gigabit connections.
For anyone wanting a great all in one solution, with the ability to have a couple of cameras with full remote access you can’t go past this one.i have the old non wifi 6 one and like it
I went back and forth many times for how to set up mine. I wanted to get the UDM Pro, but after a lot of research decided that I wanted more control and capability (particularly around the packet inspection / firewalls) and went with a Unifi AP but an old PC with dual gigabit NICs as a PFSense firewall / router. Currently have a dodgy old managed switch and would love to get a new Unifi one but still debating how much to spend.
Just incase anyone is looking for a router deal
TP-Link Deco XE75 Pro AXE5400, Pack of 3, $556.48
Last 1 in stock, Ship from Amazon UK (good luck)https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0BF5GK7TD?smid=A3JCEYBC5L8UJ8&…
As has been stated many times before, the UK routers are underpowered and do not use all of the allowed frequencies in Australia, limiting their range and performance.
I haven't really bothered looking that deep into Oz wifi standards, but thought that the entire 6E 6Ghz spectrum was so limited in Australia as to be close to useless here.
i'm going to wait for the new google wifi to be finally released in oz…has been out in the US since december
Lack of LAGs, not good with my NAS
Bought one + a AC-Pro U6!
When I purchased this, I am pretty sure there was no mention of the limitation of 700mbps otherwise I wouldn't have purchased it. Pretty disappointed, as I figured with a 1Gbit WAN port it should in theory be capable of handling my 1Gbit connection. Apparently not…
Heh true just like the wifi marketing AC3200, etc. where in the real-world instead of 3.2gbps you get 320mbps
I was really considering this but just got a 1GB NBN connection
I am keen for the rack mount versions but i thought i would take a look at the dream router since the price is okish.
I found this.. please bare in mind it maxes out at 700mbps and most can only get 500. So if your on 1gb plans don't get this it will limit your speed.