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ASRock Phantom Gaming D OC Arc A770 8GB GGDR6 Video Card $349 + Delivery ($0 QLD C&C) + Surcharge @ Computer Alliance

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  • +19

    Unlike AMD, Intel's software team actually work and are delivering the continuous driver updates

    primitive shaders bro just give us $1000 now and wait for the fine wine drivers bro we're underdogs poor volta haha

    • +31

      Didn't AMD also have massive driver updates for the 6000 series at the start of the year too? Something like a ~10% performance uplift across most games?

      • +24

        Yep, but OP continues to make these comments all the time.

        • +1

          I've had red, green and blue. To be fair the drivers are why I'm now only willing to buy green. I don't care about updates for the last 10% performance as much as stability and usability

          I would consider AMD again but I'd have to test a loan card as I'm not paying $1000 to find they're still crap

          Intel kinda works but the hardware just isn't a show

      • +2

        And last year they completely rewrote the OGL drivers and some games were literally 4x faster because the old ones were garbage. It was kind of unexpected really since OGL is barely used anymore.

      • +12

        ATi (AMD) and NVIDIA have been around for over 20 years. Their products work fine and drivers are always either ok or good enough for 90% of games..

        You cant say the same thing about intel.. maybe with time they can improve.

        • +6

          Amd drivers always lagged behind nvidia in the ati days however they are pretty good now but nvidia drivers are more consistent overall.

          • +1

            @Jasonio: 5700xt performance boosted significantly if you look at day 1 compared to two years later.

            • @Budju: I understand thats why I said ati days

      • +5

        you ever used an amd card???

        • +3

          LOL.. started with a 2MB SIS 2D only card… my first 3D card was a Voodoo2 that handled the 3D .. i moved to a Ati HD8000 and never touched Nvidia

          You should be asking me… have i used an NVIDIA card

        • -5

          Yup, since back when they were ATi to other people's systems today. The driver quality is still exactly the same, and that's why they sell so many fewer cards than nvidia, and why nvidia can price gouge like they've been doing: https://iili.io/HLGiVaI.png

          • +1

            @umexcuseme: I think its got more to do with Nvidia having better mind share.. Never had an issue with AMD drivers in my 23 years using them.

            • @vid_ghost: I definitely did have driver issues with my hd 6950 and 2x 7970's, that was the era where frame times became the hot topic. But since then AMD's drivers have been solid for me and I've had more driver related bugs with NVIDIA in recent years.

              The most recent one was where the HDMI port on my 3070 won't output to my projector but my shield, switch and Rx 570 all will.

    • +2

      A used fb-marketplace 6600XT for $200 is way way way better than this will ever be (alas)

      And given the delay until 2024 now for the nextgen from intel (rumoured to be already axed) its not a safe bet at all the 700series from Intel unless its FREE.

      • Intel have stated they won't be producing their own boards BUT board partners will, so next gen intel gpu are not axed

  • +14

    16gb or go home :)

    • Discontinued by Intel unfortunately on june 20. https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-to-discontinue-a770-limite… so the stocks will be quite limited.

      Haven't seen the Bifrost or Acer Arc cards in Australia

      • +14

        The Intel branded "Limited Edition" is discontinued - not A770 from other manufacturers. It's almost like the Intel A770 LE was a limited edition or something…

        • +4

          The Limited edition of the Intel ARc is one of the very few models that are 16GB.

          The other AIBS don't have a 16GB model, apart from Gunnir Photon and Acer Bifrost. If you do a search on Static Ice for 16GB A770, you'll see there aren't any 3rd party partner models in stock

          https://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=Arc+A770+1…

          The article also mentions that
          * The A770 LE was one of the very few Intel models offered with 16GB VRAM. This means that only three Arc A770 16GB models will remain on the market, including as: ACER Predator Bisfrost and Gunnir Photon in Black and White, so not a long list for sure. However, Intel also offers a 8GB SKU to its partners, and there are as many as four models featuring this configuration as well.

          The Aussie market is quite different from the US (much smaller), essentially I do not think we will be getting a stock replenishment of ARC A770 16GB cards any more. The margins on ARC cards are very low and it won't be a very high volume product down under.

      • +2

        Dunno why you got negged. I've never seen non-Intel 16GB cards here either.

    • +9

      …or go home :)

      They are

      Turns out AU$500 ex GST is the floor price to fabricate a modern 6 nm GPU at TSMC with 16GB of GDDR6, package it and then sell it at retail

      The Acer 16GB cards are AU$550 ex GST with Acer earning 10% margin

      Once the 4060 Ti pricing is locked this week and the RX 7800 next month, we will have confirmation that NVIDIA and AMD collusion is currently jacking up 16GB card prices by AU$200-300

      • +1

        naturally

      • +1

        I'm a bit new to this, but when you say locked this week do you mean the MSRP (which is $910 AUD on the official Nvidia website 👀) or the settled prices after a few days (which unless it gets to the same price as the 3060 Ti won't be very comforting for me)?

        • +4

          Street price

          Galax/PNY/Zotac - $799
          Gigabyte/MSI - $849
          ASUS ROG - $1999

          After the spectacular sales of the 4060 and 4060 Ti 8GB, Australian retailers are salivating to buy another couple of million dollars worth of NVIDIA e-waste

        • Confirmed Jacket Man and Agent ASUS taking the piss with pricing higher than a 4070

          ASUS ProArt 4060 Ti 16GB $919
          ASUS ProArt OC 4060 Ti 16GB $929

          Just as bad as the Noctua 4080 that is pricer than a 4090

  • +1

    i dont really have a problem with my graphics card currently. but will this be a worthwhile upgrade for my 1070 8gb?

    • +1

      depends on your need, imo might be better hold on until those 16gb drop price.

    • +5

      i dont really have a problem with my graphics card currently.

      Not worth upgrading until you run into issues.

  • +5

    Poor AMD even taking strays in Intel deals now (-̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥᷄_-̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥᷅ )

  • -4

    AMD are delivering constant driver updates. They're just not fixing any core problems. The shader cache has been bugged for like their last 10 drivers.

    • shader caching in dx11 (dxnavi) / dx12 works fine….?

      • -1

        https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/12wizig/the_shader_cac…

        Read the comments it explains why it doesn't work fine.

        "There are plenty of games that slowly introduce new enemies with new abilities throughout their campaigns, or simply just new environments with new assets, and more often than not does all of that content come with new shaders as well. I just recently played Far Cry 1 (a dx9 game) and it stutters every other minute even in the 3rd, 4th, 5th level."

        "It really depends, if new assets keep popping up every few minutes for the entirety of the game"

        • -1

          Apologies I have not read your 1000+ OzB comments

          None of these comments indicate shader caching isn't working (except for one dude with Destiny 2 but like lol stop playing that p2w garbage). It takes ~10 mins after a new driver version for DXNavi to get a proper shader cache for DX11/DX9 titles. After that it's fine, Apex is the only game that does this for me

          • @maybe a bot: Mate read the comments in the reddit link. This is like when Dawkins tried to explain how the eye evolved and he couldn't get the other guy past 1st base
            In the reddit comments:

            "First few HOURS? Dude, no. It's the first 5-10 minutes."

            re "I disagree. There are plenty of games that slowly introduce new enemies with new abilities throughout their campaigns, or simply just new environments with new assets, and more often than not does all of that content come with new shaders as well. I just recently played Far Cry 1 (a dx9 game) and it stutters every other minute even in the 3rd, 4th, 5th level."

            "It really depends, if new assets keep popping up every few minutes for the entirety of the game, yeah that could be a few hours"

            TLDR: That entire discussion is about how the 5-10 minute rule is wrong and why

            • -1

              @Jimmy77: the only game example there is fc1, a game which is approaching 20 years old and surprisingly may need community mods to run right on modern architectures/windows versions.

              for shiggles i read through the pcgw article on fc1 and there is a whole section on solving stutter in the game on modern systems. instead of solving their own problems (or trying solutions like dxvk, or trying the opengl renderer, or trying dgvoodoo) reddit posters would rather complain and blame the drivers

              • @maybe a bot: No offence mate either you're a bot or thick as all hell

                There are plenty of games that slowly introduce new enemies with new abilities throughout their campaigns, or simply just new environments with new assets, and more often than not does all of that content come with new shaders as well.

                Do you even know how shader cache works? And do you understand how AMD's optimized shader cache works?

                You're effectively denying the reality of how many games are coded. But if I wanted to argue on your level I'd say "well it doesn't do it in FC1 on nvidia cards"

    • +1

      I still get issues in Apex Legends where the screen just stops rendering in the main menu and the only fix is to minimise and make it full screen again, so annoying.

  • +1

    This just makes me think of my first AGP card back in the day… the Intel i740 lol

    Anyone actually rocking Arc GPUs in their setups?

    • My first AGP card bought in Dec 1998 was also a i740 8MB, it was a "Jaton" brand (what happened to them?). However, I never used the card for 3D games, as I also had a Voodoo2 installed (which couldn't do 2D). Replaced both cards with a TNT in 1999.

    • ah the good ol i740, was a great budget entry openGL card at the time, didn't get great frames but did 3d

  • +1

    Adding to OP, people should check GN's review on the 4060 to gain an appreciation of how much arc drivers have improved over the month. Its a 4060 review but the Arc results are newly revisited (Steve didnt mention it in this video but in another video) and are quite current.

    You can see that while theres still games that Arc is not optimised in, in a lot of titles the arc cards are putting themselves well around a 7600 & 4060 levels of performance. And ARC performance drivers updates are like a monthly recurring theme, unlike AMD's fine wine drivers which is as rare as it sounds.

    • because amd tries to market themselves (and their fanbase hails them as) the budget alternative to nvidia which its ever being less true with 7000 gen releases..

      Call be wrong but I dont believe being just 'better than nvidia' is enough. Because their gpu prices are still inflated as ****

  • Is this a good upgrade over the 5600XT? I have no urgent upgrade but still curious.

    • +1

      nah. not big enough to justify upgrading. I would keep your card until next year at the earliest. When battlemage and refreshed rdna3 & 40 gen comes up maybe we would see some better deals.

    • +1

      Wait for 7600 to hit this price, its 1.5x a 5600xt. Shouldnt be too long. Is already $400 down from $440 since 2 weeks after launch. Also if you can spend more and get a 6700xt, 1.8x perf, they $480 atm for a asus dual.

      • And yea wait if you dont mind, you've wait long enough.

    • mess around with afterburner and see you can overclock it for more frames

  • +1

    If only they released the a380 here at a sub $150 price .

  • I don't really follow computer hardware or know much about it, but wasn't there a lot of talk about the Arc series being absolutely amazing for things like plex transcoding, but there were some issues in release? Does anyone here use it purely for transcoding and have much success with it with an amd chip?

    • +1

      https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-arc-a750-new-249-dol…

      "Another feature of the Arc GPUs that's more than just "pretty decent" is the video encoding and decoding support. Arc was the first modern GPU to offer full AV1 support, and the quality of the Quick Sync Video encoding goes head to head with Nvidia's best"

  • I think the best reason to buy this card is for AV1 encoding and decoding. Need to buy more expensive cards from AMD or Nvidia to have AV1.

  • +1

    Just a word of caution, if you have an older system which doesn't support ReBAR, the performance on these takes a massive hit. Anything older than 10th gen Intel CPUs is a no-go with Arc.

  • Unlike AMD, Intel's software team actually work and are delivering the continuous driver updates

    AMD have actually been hammering down on fixing tonnes of bugs this year if you owned one you would know, sometimes stuff that doesn't even get listed in driver release notes gets fixed. Newest series always seems to have issues but the older cards like 6700XT I'd argue has less driver issues than Nvidia which is still suffering from MPO and DPC latency issues on the 30/40 series…

    As for Intel, I've only ever used their iGPUs and drivers were an absolute nightmare, I doubt anything has changed drastically enough in 2yrs to get all those older games working…

  • -5

    What a rippoff that card is $179 USD in the States even with GST that still around $280 AUD lol
    We Australians are always treated like all day suckers.

    • -1

      Are you sure you weren't talking about the A750? Not that there's much of a performance difference with this 8GB version anyway.

      • I am sure, OZ rippoff retailers are salty XD

    • -1

      Smacks the classic RX 580 albeit it is pretty old

      https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Arc-A770-vs-AMD-…

    • Speak the truth get shot down by retailers hahahahahhahahaaaa!!!

      XD

  • Been reading green vs red ju$tify debates for years.
    Both have issues, severity alternates each release.
    R290 WindForce still my best card ever.
    Used 3060 for ~$300 best 1440 value for me atm.
    Wait for the used 79xxs, 40xxs to come down.

    As for Intel GPUs, Hyundai had many launch issues.
    Imagine prices today had they (+Kia & others) not come into the market.
    More competition = better prices for us.
    Not like we have Au manufacturing/labour in the game.

  • 8gb pretty crumby

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