Free Documentary - The Voice: Australia Decides @ Sky News Australia

His_Holiness on 31/07/2023 - 16:05
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A new Sky News documentary has revealed the question at the heart of the upcoming referendum on whether to enshrine an Indigenous Voice to Parliament in the Australian Constitution.

Hosted by Sky News Australia’s Darwin Bureau Chief, Matt Cunningham, The Voice: Australia Decides takes a comprehensive look at the Voice to Parliament debate, speaking to key political and Indigenous leaders on both sides.

The Program highlights the widespread agreement on the problems facing many remote Indigenous communities.

The question viewers are left with – and the question Australians will need to answer in the upcoming referendum – is can the Voice make a difference.

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  • mandelbrot on 31/07/2023 - 16:07

    Does Andrew Bolt make an appearance?

    • bargaino on 31/07/2023 - 16:16

      No, thankfully NO.
      What a strange day it is, but we find ourselves in a Bizzaro world where Sky is the voice of objectivity, while the ABC is pushing an ideological agenda.

      • placard on 31/07/2023 - 16:17
        +1

        I always laugh when their RWNJs on Sky go on about the biased ABC. I mean pot…kettle…black. I'm not defending the ABC, but gee whiz, people in glass houses.

        • bargaino on 31/07/2023 - 16:21
          +1

          Yes Sky is certainly worse, especially the like of Bolt, Credlin etc., but it is getting harder to defend the ABC.
          Credit where due, Paul Barry is still criticising ABC on Media Watch without being sacked.

        • CurlCurl on 31/07/2023 - 17:49
          +16

          I always laugh when their RWNJs on Sky go on about the biased ABC. I mean pot…kettle…black. I'm not defending the ABC, but gee whiz, people in glass houses.

          Sky is not funded with taxpayers money.

          • poboy on 31/07/2023 - 19:27
            +8

            @CurlCurl: And a friendly reminder that the Government appoints the ABC board. Currently all ABC board members were appointed by the Liberal government.

            • CurlCurl on 31/07/2023 - 19:43
              +3

              @poboy:

              And a friendly reminder that the Government appoints the ABC board. Currently all ABC board members were appointed by the Liberal government.

              Changing the jockey doesn't make the horse faster.

          • justgooddeals on 31/07/2023 - 23:10
            +6

            @CurlCurl:

            Sky is not funded with taxpayers money

            Yes it is.

            https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/feb/03/australias-aud…

            “ The Greens will ask the auditor-general to review Foxtel’s $40m grant for women’s sport”

            Or back in 2018.

            https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/foxtel-yet…

            • CurlCurl on 01/08/2023 - 09:45
              +1

              @justgooddeals:

              Yes it is.

              https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/feb/03/australias-aud…

              “ The Greens will ask the auditor-general to review Foxtel’s $40m grant for women’s sport”

              Or back in 2018.

              https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/foxtel-yet…

              Clutching at straws I see. Let me put it in plain English so you will understand. Fox is not fully funded by the Government as the ABC is. The amount paid to Fox is not ongoing and is piddly compared to the $1.13bn paid to the ABC

              The ABC's total revenue is budgeted at $1.13bn in 2023-24 – up $30.4m from 2022-23. ABC expenses are budgeted at $1.2bn – a net increase of $231m from 2022-23 due to wage increases and other costs, including leasing expenses.10 May 2023.

              • justgooddeals on 01/08/2023 - 09:48
                -1

                @CurlCurl: Yes and so what.

                Your assertion that foxtel is not publicly funded is clearly wrong.

                Because Foxtel is clearly funded by the federal government.

                No straws needed. I’m not the one that needs to clutch at straws.

                When your so clearly just wrong.

                • CurlCurl on 01/08/2023 - 09:58
                  +1

                  @justgooddeals: Ok. You win.

                  • justgooddeals on 01/08/2023 - 11:30

                    @CurlCurl: What do I win?

                    Platinum gold plated 24 carat card giving me lifetime membership to Ozbargain.

                    Its not about winning. It’s about right and wrong information and assertions

                    • CurlCurl on 01/08/2023 - 16:51
                      -1

                      @justgooddeals:

                      Clutching at straws I see. Let me put it in plain English so you will understand. Fox is not fully funded by the Government as the ABC is. The amount paid to Fox is not ongoing and is piddly compared to the $1.13bn paid to the ABC

                      Do you know the meaning of the word FULLY? The ABC is FULLY funded by the Government every year.

  • Magicmannn on 31/07/2023 - 16:07
    +3

    popcorn

    • easternculture on 31/07/2023 - 16:11
      +1

      Beer (or something stronger) to make the doco watchable

      • bargaino on 31/07/2023 - 16:32

        The opening can be hard to watch, but that is the reality in Alice and many other communities. Letting aboriginal people tell their own story makes it more palatable. Ignoring it, denying it, is about as useful as denying global warming.

        • LFO on 01/08/2023 - 16:25

          Replace aboriginal people by Australian homeless people (males in particular) and you will get no sympathy from the community at large.

          We have been indoctrinated a lot.

  • adam on 31/07/2023 - 16:07
    +8

    How is this a bargain. Was it ever offered at a price and then reduced to free?

    • His_Holiness on 31/07/2023 - 16:09
      -8

      It was first aired on their Pay TV channel and is now available for free on their website.

      • adam on 31/07/2023 - 16:11
        +3

        No, according to Sky themselves when they announced it 6 days ago it was available free on all their social medias.

    • Protractor on 31/07/2023 - 17:44
      -5

      It's not.
      This thread is a drop shipped click bait That precedent has been set multiple times recently. The same MO every time.
      Repugnant

  • pauliau on 31/07/2023 - 16:07
    +2

    Where's the bargain here?? This is not a deal. Move it to the forums.

    • ash2000 on 31/07/2023 - 16:09
      +18

      Not even worthy of the forums.

      • 0jay on 31/07/2023 - 16:12
        -1

        this

      • easternculture on 31/07/2023 - 16:12

        Maybe worthy of a whirpool thread at most

    • Malik Nasser on 31/07/2023 - 17:34

      Maybe if they paid people to watch it, it may make it to the bargains page… if you don't value your time that is.

  • PatD on 31/07/2023 - 16:08
    +28

    Not a deal, and not even journalism. Only takes a quick google to see that the host of this "documentary" is in the business of propaganda and not news.

    • jv on 31/07/2023 - 16:15
      +5

      not even journalism.

      Have you watched it?

  • ash2000 on 31/07/2023 - 16:08
    +13

    A tv show is not a deal, particularly one that appears on a Murdoch "news" channel.

    • jv on 31/07/2023 - 16:17
      +1

      A tv show is not a deal

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/772867

      • ash2000 on 31/07/2023 - 16:18

        That is at least streamed. The ops offering is live linear tv.

        • Protractor on 31/07/2023 - 17:47

          You mean cheap nasty right wing propaganda. It belongs in Apartheid country

      • pauliau on 31/07/2023 - 17:56

        Cool, thanks! I didn’t know about this ‘bargain’ until now 😂

  • StarPlatinum on 31/07/2023 - 16:10
    +7

    How is this a bargain? You can hardly call this “journalism”

    • jv on 31/07/2023 - 16:17
      +3

      You can hardly call this “journalism”

      Have you watched it?

      • StarPlatinum on 31/07/2023 - 16:18
        +3

        Sky news is anything but journalism

        • jv on 31/07/2023 - 16:20
          +2

          That is a generalisation, and only an opinion.

          Have you watched this show to make an 'informed' opinion?

          • 0jay on 31/07/2023 - 16:51
            +3

            @jv:

            That is a generalisation

            That’s incredibly naive at best

          • Protractor on 31/07/2023 - 17:48
            +3

            @jv: You don't need to experience repulsive,. to know what it is.

  • Rod71 on 31/07/2023 - 16:10
    +8

    It's a NO from me.

  • 0jay on 31/07/2023 - 16:11
    +16

    No doubt the folks at Sky have unique insight and knowledge to bring to the subject

    what a fckn shtshow

  • bag on 31/07/2023 - 16:12
    +17

    Trash is not a bargain

    • easternculture on 31/07/2023 - 16:13

      Username checks out

    • jv on 31/07/2023 - 16:18

      Trash is not a bargain

      One person's trash is another person's treasure.

  • ThirtySixNights on 31/07/2023 - 16:12
    +16

    I can't in good faith not neg this. Not only is it not a deal, but I would hate to see anyone waste time watching it.

    • jv on 31/07/2023 - 16:22
      +3

      I can't in good faith not neg this.

      What about the left wing propaganda on Q+A ?

      • whiskeyjack89 on 31/07/2023 - 16:48
        +5

        Put that up as a bargain and see what happens JV

        • jv on 31/07/2023 - 23:17

          A kitten dies?

  • SpeedRunnerLink on 31/07/2023 - 16:13
    +1

    I dont even have enough time to play my Switch games.

    Let alone waste my time watching this opinionated crap that won't benefit me

  • placard on 31/07/2023 - 16:13
    +7

    Lol…the sky news youtube channel for the last 6 months has been adnauseum anti-Voice drivel from their 'commentator' hacks.

    They are so one-sided and welded onto the LNP it's not funny. This is a waste of time. Not even a bargain.

    Just a propaganda channel for the LNP.

  • glenncol on 31/07/2023 - 16:13
    +3

    Not a deal or bargain and the answer is a definite NO

  • drongodave on 31/07/2023 - 16:13
    +14

    Sorry, but I think this is a contender for the 'worst post of the year' award.

  • Rkel403 on 31/07/2023 - 16:13
    +5

    Not a bargain, propaganda

  • vbt on 31/07/2023 - 16:13
    +3

    I want my money back

  • PatoriaN on 31/07/2023 - 16:14
    +13

    No such thing as a documentary on Sky news. 😉

    • Drakesy on 31/07/2023 - 16:44
      +8

      Sky News: Our reporting is unbiased provided your definition of unbiased is right wing Rupert Murdoch hugging loonies.

      i get that during the day their content is actually palatable, but it's what happens after say 6pm that brings the whole network into the dumpster fire that it is.

      • placard on 31/07/2023 - 19:35
        +5

        You forgot Sunday mornings on that "Outsiders" show. OMG, that Rowan Dean needs to go into a psych ward. He is so unhinged! Rita Panahi not far behind.

  • jv on 31/07/2023 - 16:15

    Darwin Bureau Chief, Matt Cunningham

    Related to Richie?

  • mboy on 31/07/2023 - 16:15
    +3

    Hey let's post a deal for every YouTube video that exists. Free videos, wow.

  • Responsible borrower on 31/07/2023 - 16:16
    -4

    Don't be bullied or guilt tripped into voting yes.

    • placard on 31/07/2023 - 16:19
      -1

      Equally worth education too rather than have Sky news/LNP/Pauline Hanson just brainwash people into voting No.

      • Responsible borrower on 31/07/2023 - 16:43
        -3

        This is the kind of bullying I'm talking about.

        • placard on 31/07/2023 - 16:59
          +2

          Lol. This sky news lot can certainly dish it out all the time, and as soon as anyone dares to question, then they claim they are the victims. Not buying it.

          • CrowReally on 31/07/2023 - 17:09
            +2

            @placard: "anyone trying to make you vote yes is just bullying or guilt tripping you. anyone trying to make you vote no is an entirely different scenario and totally legit" -someone whose mind was made up for them a long time ago

  • [Deactivated] on 31/07/2023 - 16:16
    +1

    Comment so that I can neg

  • ash2000 on 31/07/2023 - 16:17
    +12

    It's not the OP'S first post spewing nutty right wing nonsense from Fox News.

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/737438

    • CrowReally on 31/07/2023 - 16:42
      +4

      Yeesh.

      "uncle on Facebook moaning about how we can't make good jokes anymore and anyone can identify as anything" energy

  • easternculture on 31/07/2023 - 16:19

    Australia Decides

    More like ozbargain decides if this is deal worthy

  • wakie on 31/07/2023 - 16:24

    OzTvGuide

  • bogan on 31/07/2023 - 16:27
    +1

    Not a deal if John Farnham doesn't turn up for a farewell.

  • pharkurnell on 31/07/2023 - 16:34

    no FTW!

  • Drakesy on 31/07/2023 - 16:42
    +7

    Stopped reading when it had Sky in the title…

    • bargaino on 31/07/2023 - 17:01
      -2

      And that in a nutshell is what is wrong with Australian politics :-( . We are happy to remain stuck in our bubbles, oblivious to outside ideas.
      I'll wager all you know of Sky is clips of the worst idiocy from the likes of Bolt. Meanwhile, your right-wing doppleganger thinks ABC is awful, because he has only seen their worst, forwarded by other RWNJs.

      (disclaimer, I never watch Sky, just read their website sometimes. It helps to know both sides, even the wrong one :-)

      • Drakesy on 31/07/2023 - 17:44
        +4

        I'd debate that.

        I fall fairly central on the scale when it comes to political alignment, ABC is left leaning and Sky news is heavily right leaning and i'm not particularly inclined to either.
        It's more that ABC at least doesn't give a stage multiple uneducated shock jock dropkicks like:

        Andrew Bolt
        Paul Murray
        Piers Morgan
        Peta Credlin
        Rita Panahi

        Who spout sensationalist denialist crap whilst attacking people's decisions with no understanding of how everything works.

        • bargaino on 31/07/2023 - 18:20
          -2

          Agreed. But you are listing the shock-jocks, the columnists, the professional outrage-generators. Its not all like that, and Matt Cunningham does not belong on the list. Give the doco a go. Sure Dutton is in it, but only briefly.

      • afoveht on 31/07/2023 - 18:02
        +6

        You don't have to taste shit to know it's shit. Much can be gathered by the smell or who's eating it.

  • EightImmortals on 31/07/2023 - 16:45
    -4

    Here's a good one too.

    "This week we are joined by Grandmother Mulara who is not only an Aboriginal Senior Lore Woman, but also holds a Juris Doctor in colonial law. Grandmother Mulara talks us through what The Voice is really about, and how it will trap the traditional custodians of this land who are a crucial key to stopping the complete NWO takeover."

    https://rumble.com/v2jg0es-zerotime-grandmother-mulara-how-t…

    After listening to this woman the whole dog and pony show finally made sense. Will go over a lot of heads I imagine but the Voice will shaft most Aboriginals along with everyone else. I mean let's face it, if the same agenda is being played out simultaneously in other western countries like NZ and Canada as well then it's most likely the globalists playing games games again anyway.

    • CrowReally on 31/07/2023 - 17:11
      +4

      crucial key to stopping the complete NWO takeover."

      "NWO takeover" is an interesting and normal term, I wonder what it means.

      • EightImmortals on 31/07/2023 - 17:26
        -4

        The complete monitoring and control of the world's population under the unelected world government embodied in the likes of the WHO, the WEF, the U.N. the BIS etc. Their policies being implemented as we are seeing by so called regional government that has the illusion of being independent and 'belonging' to the nation where it resides.

        For starters at least….

        • CrowReally on 31/07/2023 - 17:29
          +7

          Oh, I understand now, the Voice referendum is a good opportunity to stop Soros from using chemtrails to activate the genetically-modified sleeper virus in the wheat the Bildenberg group sold to us under a false flag operation, co-ordinated from the tunnels under Melbourne.

          • EightImmortals on 31/07/2023 - 17:47
            +2

            @CrowReally: 'It's 'Bilderberg'

            Silly normy. :)

            • CrowReally on 31/07/2023 - 17:49
              +3

              @EightImmortals: Sorry, these David Icke pamphlets have been photocopied so many times I can barely make out some of the words. I could swear for a second he was using the word "lizards" as the name of the secret society over and over again, so clearly something's off.

              • EightImmortals on 31/07/2023 - 17:50
                +1

                @CrowReally: Wut? You never heard of Queen Alizardbeast the second?

              • CrowReally on 31/07/2023 - 17:57

                @CrowReally: I feel sorry for the conspiracy theorist enthusiasts who're wasting their negs on me.

                Imagine how foolish you're going to feel when Hilary Clinton comes in here with the 5G network to respond and you have an empty clip.
                You'd have to use your words (which in your case is definitely a bad idea).

        • freefall101 on 31/07/2023 - 17:47

          You'd think after so many decades those groups would be considerable less shit at doing pretty much anything.

          • EightImmortals on 31/07/2023 - 17:50

            @freefall101: Well they getting better at it, especially over the last 100 years or so. The global technological unity that's been increasing makes it much easier for the methods to applied globally all at the same time whereas previously I suspect the absence of that level of control allowed various populations to be somewhat autonomous? Maybe.

  • placard on 31/07/2023 - 17:02
    +6

    I find it kinda cute that Sky News journalists are pretending they actually care about Aborigines and their welfare.

    I suppose their hate for the ALP is a stronger force.

    • EightImmortals on 31/07/2023 - 17:27
      +2

      It's slightly less insipid than politicians pretending to care I guess?

  • Godric on 31/07/2023 - 17:29

    Does this come in Bargain?

  • WreckTangle on 31/07/2023 - 20:18
    +3

    Just do the decent thing and vote yes

    Actually, the decent thing is just to legislate and not have a referendum at all.

    • Trying2SaveABuck on 31/07/2023 - 21:27
      -6

      Yea im 100 percent voting No it is the 'right thing' to do

      the voice 'is racists'

      you want some proof

      change indigenous to - 'white people' voice to parliament' and tell me is that racist….

      • WreckTangle on 31/07/2023 - 22:36
        +2

        You don’t think a culture that has been here for 60,000 years should get a better voice in government?

        • Trying2SaveABuck on 01/08/2023 - 08:00
          -2

          No u dont think a culture thats that old isnt outdated and backwards in modern society?

          It is like saying we should use Windows 95 to help step up AI but a lot worse

        • bargaino on 01/08/2023 - 08:39
          +1

          I get a bit sick of people saying "oldest culture" without even thinking. Is there just one culture continent-wide? That has not changed?
          Anyone with a little thought would look to Africa for the oldest cultures. Kalahari bushmen and pygmies of the Congo basin would be much older by the same metrics.
          But what makes you think the recent/current aboriginal culture bears any resemblance to the early-stone age arrivals? There is no record of 500 years ago, let alone 60k.
          Anyway, Noongar have about as much in common with TSI culture as Balinese do with Ireland.

      • CrowReally on 01/08/2023 - 08:58
        +1

        The indigenous population currently has some of the worst health, work and living outcomes in the country. Without being distracted by who's "fault" that is, (fix the problem, not the blame), let's look at the best way of fixing that.

        They were asked what they felt the best way to go about it was (because the current model of government ministers throwing money at the problem and using white people solutions hasn't been working).

        They said they'd like a representative body that's more in touch with their issues who could make arguments on their behalf. They wouldn't have the power to force anyone to take up their recommendations, but if you wanted to know what First Nations felt would be the best solution, you could ask this body directly.

        And that's it. I guess if you wanted to dig your heels in and say "that's racist, where's my lobby group" no one's going to stop you, but you need to acknowledge the only reason you're against it is you're worried about First Nations people getting an 'unfair' advantage by being given an official lobby group.

        The real irony is you yourself pass yourself off as a religious person and telling everyone how great it is when God redeems you or whatever, and here you are, tossing out the toys in a tantrum that one of the poorest and most downtrodden groups in our country is being offered a service. How Christlike of you. The meek will inherit the earth, as long as they're the ones you approve of, huh?

      • BigBirdy on 01/08/2023 - 09:00

        We already have a whole bunch of white voices to parliament, Sky News even broadcasts it's voice into parliamentary offices.

        • Trying2SaveABuck on 01/08/2023 - 09:21
          +1

          We have 11 Aboriginal voices in parliament and a Front bencher called the Minister for Indigenous affairs….these ppl have real power and are elected by Australians….what does the voice do they they do not? If anything the voice will probably hurt 1st nations ppl like most things 'White ppl' do help the situatuon they often make them worse.

          Anyone voting for the voice is racist there is no benefit to 1st nation ppls and there is no reseach to support it it is just political ploy for self interest and get more $$$ for those who don't need it

          The PM and the yes voters have never considered the damage the voice can do for all parties….

          The left wing Karen's can scream till your blue on the face but the voice makes no sense and the average person is not stupid enough to support it…thus why support have dropped on every poll since it was announced

          • BigBirdy on 01/08/2023 - 09:26

            @Trying2SaveABuck:

            Anyone voting for the voice is racist there is no benefit to 1st nation ppls or Australians only those who use 1st nations ppl as a political ploy for self interest

            Stick to bargain hunting, it can't be worse than your ignorance about this

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