Cheaper than most other places which are going for $639 right now. One of the absolute best CPUs for gaming
Not sure if they're still doing the bonus copy of Starfield (or if this store is eligible) - netsurfer says that they are eligible which is great!
Aussie dollar will keep dropping as Chinese consumption drops. Iron ore props up everything here.
The price is great though. I’ve been thinking about a 5800x3d as a final upgrade, but the drop in boards and ddr5 are enough to make me think of jumping to the next platform.
I've been considering between 7800X3D or just copping the 7950x. I already got the RAM from a previous deal but haven't decide on the CPU and MoBo.
I'm going to stick with my 5700X and upgrade to a 8800X3D Zen5 in 12-16 months.. i feel like it will be the more worthwhile upgrade vs the 5nm Zen3 based (zen4) 7800X3D
I really dont like the 90c temps on these new chips
@vid_ghost: Mine's only hitting 83c max so thankfully not 90, but yeah you'd definitely see a bigger improvement by that time and hopefully the motherboard prices have dropped too
@vid_ghost: 90c is well within spec, voltage is much more important and that issue was fixed months ago for the x3d chips. You can set a lower temperature limit in bios if that 90 number scares you.
@vid_ghost: Have you tweak with curve optimiser, undervolting and limiting power values? I am currently on 5900x and stock it always chases the 90C limit. With the tweaks I mentioned, it now achieves higher Cinebench scores (close to 23,700 points in multicore) while staying at 70C max. I also have a 360mm AIO and a new case (was preparing for the upgrade). Before this AIO and case upgrade, it would do 23,200 points while staying at 80C max (280mm AIO).
@Davesday: 5700x set to eco mode 45w in biox with Asus TUF RX6800 undervolted to 135w .. This PC runs everything i want smooth as silk :) all while using very little power. idle at 75w Total system power and loads to 250w (furmark4k stress test) average gaming at 160w at temps under 60c for CPU and GPU
If gaming, there's no contest (7800X3D). If you do other CPU intensive tasks, checkout benchmarks and reviews to see how they would handle your workload
Iron ore props up everything here.
You ore-ways say that
I doubt. I think recently CPU GPU price actually goes up. For example, I bought a 13600K last Black Friday and now still 500. Similar to gpu where u can see 4070 ti around 1k for the top line but now can’t even get the low line.
How much juice does this thing use when idling? My computer is on most of the time. Will this materially effect my power bill?
Nice, those look like benchmarks under load tho. Most of the time my computer isn't doing anything demanding. I'm worried about power consumption under idle conditions.
Found a redit post here .. people get it to around 22w idle
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/12vk40v/ryzen_7800x3d_…
Then put the PC to sleep or have the PC put itself to sleep after 20-30 minutes of idle time.
If you're not using it, just turn it off?
@Doomedgrind: it's a plex/sonarr/radarr server, and i need to remote in sometimes when i'm not home. If i turn it off then i quite often forget to turn it back on when i'm leaving the house.
Windows sleep mode is completely cooked in my experience anyway. When i do use it, i return to my computer having woken itself up. Happens constantly.
@Grish: Ive thought about it. By the time i purchase a low power pc plus some hard drive enclosers or a NAS I'd be looking at about $500. Thats alot of electricity. I did the calculations a while ago so i cant remember exactly, but i think it took something like 4 years to pay for itself. Not sure that ROI makes sense
On my 7800X3D system HWInfo reports the CPU package power hovering around 30-33W with 4-5% total CPU utility if that's at all helpful for you.
@xdd: My 5700X idles at 6w-9w in a messy windows 10 with lots of Auto start apps and avast antivirus :) its a revision (B2) and golden sample max load 45w
The CPU's power consumption is just one of the many components consuming power. Other components in your build will add to that. Get a smart plug with power meter from a recent Meross deal to help with that. My 5900x build idles between 80W-120W doing nothing.
Regarding the free copy of Starfield:
The promotion runs from July 11 to September 30, 2023
You must purchase from an eligible retailer and it needs to be purchased and processed by the retailer by September 30, 2023 (i.e. the invoice with the code must be generated). You must redeem on or before Oct 28, 2023.
This seller is eligible. Normally, you get sent an eBay message with the invoice and the redemption code soon after your order is processed. A physical copy of the invoice will be included in the actual package delivered to you.
This seller is eligible
Legend, thanks for confirming that they're eligible :D
can you sell code tho
No. You need to run an AMD verification tool on your PC with the CPU in it.
sucks I don’t want no starfield
Technically, yes. Here is one feeBay listing for it:
Starfield Standard Edition PC (ACTIVATED) Redeems via Steam/AMD Rewards
It was sold before Starfield was released.
good price, i paid $645 about a month ago
What motherboard do you have/recommend?
i eventually went a MSI B650 tomohawk, cant go wrong although doesnt have a gen 5 PCie slot, if thats important to you
I've been using the B650 Aorus Elite which was one of the cheaper boards with decent VRMs according to HUB that also has 3x nvme slots
Currently running a Ryzen 3 3300x 2070s and planning to get a 4070ti when prices drop a bit.
Unsure whether to just upgrade cpu to 5800x3d or if its worth to go for 7800x3d/new mobo and ram
If you're on 16gb of DDR4 I'd say jump ship to DDR5 so you can get relatively cheap 32gb while prices are good
I went 3600 -> 5800X3D roughly a year ago.
At this point, If I hadn't upgraded, I would be considering AM5 over a CPU/RAM upgrade. Obviously, this depends on the quality of existing components, what you're playing, and how happy you are with your current performance.
How happy were you with this upgrade?
Which GPU?
I made the jump 3700x -> 5800X3D in Jan, pairing with RTX 3080.
It was a very worth while drop-in upgrade at that point considering there was no X3D chips on 7000 series, as well as $350+ AM5 board and $300+ decent DDR5 RAM.
However they have dropped down so much in price that if I was to upgrade now, I'd pay the extra for whole new platform. Lots of new games are already pushing the limit of even latest and greatest of CPU and GPU.
Yeah, seems decent. There's more fan noise, especially when gaming.
3070
Would a 4090 bottleneck my 5600X in 4K ultra settings? Been looking to upgrade my CPU but read mixed opinions online on whether an upgrade would improve things in 4K.
Your CPU and RAM would be the bottleneck as opposed to the GPU. You're probably looking at an up to 5% increase in performance at that specific quality/resolution.
Yep, 4090 will be bottlenecked by everything else since it's such a high-end GPU.
5600X is a different socket than 7800X3D so you would need to change the motherboard (from an AM4 type to an AM5 type). I would get this CPU if I was you, 7800X3D is the best choice unless you want to spend heaps more.
Thanks! 5% probably isn’t worth it, I’ll wait a generation or two for prices to drop further then.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/21.ht… around 14% different from the chart, there are charts for the games they tested. Upgrade the whole platform will cost around 1k though… could wait as Ryen 8000 series released in 1st half of 2024
lowest was 589 with afterpay
Yeah that was a great deal!
For Counterstrike 2 get this or something with higher clock speed since CS2 is CPU intensive?
this is more than enough for cs2, basically any modern gaming cpu will perform extremely well and this is one of the best on the market if not the best.
you might find this interesting
Hi hoping to get some insight from someone more adept with this than me. I've got a 4080 and a 7600x right now and was wondering if this is worth the upgrade? I have a Dell 144hz 4k monitor and so I play mainly at 4k. Am I right in guessing as the resolution is so high I'm always GPU bound and the most this would do is maybe improve 1% lows?
It’s not the easiest question to answer. IN GENERAL, yes, playing at 4K the GPU is always going to be the bottleneck first. Also, most games are still reliant on single core performance, and I really don’t think you’re going to see a big difference there between a 7600x and a 7800X3D. That being said, some games LOVE the extra cache available on the X3D and gobble it up. So in conclusion, the only way to know is to check benchmarks on the specific games you play. I’m inclined to say there will still be little difference at 4K.
Thank you very much for your response ASR. I mainly play shooters and FPS such as COD and Fortnite and dabble in other stuff such as Baldur's Gate. The closest comparison videos I've found have shown a maybe 10/20fps or so improvement on the average fps and 1% lows and that's at 1440p. I believe you would be correct in seeing little difference at 4k but just wanted to see if there was any differing opinions for people with a similar build.
I just upgraded to the 7800X3D (grabbed it in the Afterpay Day sales, it was just too good of a price). I game at 4K with a 3080. The difference was night and day, but I came from a 3700X. So clearly that was holding my old system back.
@ASR-Briggs: Oof yeah that'd be a huge upgrade. Thanks for your insight mate, hope the 7800 treats you well, maybe I'll just get it if it becomes a steal again and sell the 7600x so it's not a huge hit.
It's around 5.5% (7.9fps) performance upgrade on 4090 system according https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/images/relativ…. It will be less performance upgrade for 4080. I will wait to 8800x3D for more upgrade, 8000 series should be released 1st half 2024 (x3D could be a bit later).
This is a great graph mate, thank you for this. Looks like I won't bother with the 7800 unless it's in price error territory haha.
That's with native 4k though, if you use DLSS the CPU will be more important.
I remember seeing 5800X3D for $640 not that long ago.. now its around $500… :) this is a great price for the fastest gaming CPU in the world. But I think prices will drop even more so long as global interest rates stay high. tech items are in a price deflation with China tanking in consumption due to the whole country's economy going into the toilet.
More price drops across the board are coming soon.