[Resolved] Can't Get a Job

LDegeneracy on 14/01/2024 - 19:58
Last edited 16/01/2024 - 11:00 by 3 other users

I applied for like 30+ jobs. I even applied to KFC. I got an interview and got promptly rejected (lmao). They sent the email less than an hour after the interview. Also got rejected from Coles interview.

I've got nothing to put on my resume. Literally nothing (don't know what an 18 year old would have though). I'm an awful student (65 Atar), so I can't do tutoring. Never had work experience before. I don't have friends or family who can refer me. I'm not athletic at all and have a weak build. My character is pretty bad TBH. My "community" also isn't very helpful, as I went over the the mall and asked them for a job. There is literally nothing going for me.

Some people have told me volunteering. But quite frankly, I don't care about helping people, nor do I feel any satisfaction for it. I just want money.

Part time jobs would rather hire 14 year olds who they can underpay or older people who are more flexible with their times. And the shitty government doesn't give assistance for a job until I'm 21 and on the hook for Centrelink.

I don't understand the song and dance around applying for a minimum wage. YES I'M APPLYING FOR A MINIMUM WAGE, WAGE JOB. NO, I DON'T WANT TO STAY FOREVER. NO, THE JOB DOENS'T GIVE ME PRIDE.

I'm begging you. If you have a job at 7/11 or a some type of cornerstone clerk, please give me advice.

EDIT: I'll be entering uni in 2024. I want a part time job not a career

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          • Synapse29 on 15/01/2024 - 14:33

            @Degeneracy: 🤣🤣🤣 holy f

          • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 14:35
            +1

            @Degeneracy: Except for us to laugh at you for being so pathetic.

            • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 14:38

              @kerfuffle: I posted this knowing you most certainly would. I don't care for the opinions of internet strangers.

              Here's something else for you to laugh at. I came to this forum to rant about not getting a job. I would normally rant to my friends, but I lost them because high school ended.

              • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 14:41
                +1

                @Degeneracy: If you don't care for the opinions of internet strangers, why are you here?

                If you lost friends because high school ended, once again that speaks volumes about your character.

                • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 14:45
                  -1

                  @kerfuffle: I'm here to rant, vent, argue and waste time. Maybe some false hope. No other reason really. That's why I'm here.

                  Haha yeah. I was a shit friend. Never was there for them. Never helped them one bit. Didn't hesitate to get them in trouble to save my own skin. Never hung out with them once after school. They never left me since year 7. Best friends I could have asked for

                  • Synapse29 on 15/01/2024 - 14:46

                    @Degeneracy: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

                  • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 14:49

                    @Degeneracy: For someone who wants money, perhaps you could make better use of your time and be more proactive in getting a job?

                    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 14:51

                      @kerfuffle: I want money but not that bad. I can just pirate 90 percent of the shit I want

                  • Ozymandias on 15/01/2024 - 15:25
                    +2

                    @Degeneracy: there's absolutely no way you actually exist

                    that or the carbon monoxide leak in my house is worse than I thought

                    • ezekiel181 on 15/01/2024 - 19:22

                      @Ozymandias: Feels like some deep dark corner of Reddit is leaking into here.

  • mxda on 15/01/2024 - 14:17
    +2

    I work in employment services (well mainly policy), and I'll say that there's plenty of employers who "beg" for workers (I've seen them on the television), though there's always a back story to why they're begging (abusive managers / owner, wage theft, bad workplace culture and all the way down to just being picky).

    Some tips I'll suggest and the ones I hear the most is to 'dress up' your resume and tailor it to the role you're applying for, so don't use the one cover letter for all your applications.. That said it seems that you're in a bit of a pickle in terms of how much experience you have.
    I don't have much knowledge with specific EBAs (pay agreements that supermarkets and the like use) though the supermarkets and the like do tend to pay the "14 year olds" a lot less than an 18 or 20 year old, combined with the rhetoric about price gouging and I can see why you think that they'd rather employ those ones.

    My advice is to keep trying, perhaps include your year 10 work experience to your resume though keep trying with the 'entry level' jobs out there and keep an eye out on any major chain stores that may be opening up in your area who'd be in need of a few staff.

    • lechuck123 on 15/01/2024 - 15:10
      +5

      I used to hire for supermarket checkout roles. There's definitely a bias towards the 14 year olds due to them being significantly cheaper. In saying that, the school kids are only available after school and weekends. Being available to work Mon-Fri 7am-3pm would open some doors.

      OP got an interview at KFC, part of the application would have asked for availability so they clearly had a role that matched them. Attitude is clearly the problem here.

  • No ONE on 15/01/2024 - 14:25
    +2

    This is Ozbargain not Reddit.

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 14:30
      +2

      And this is the forums not the deal section

      • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 14:39
        +1

        And the forums aren't for your pathetic ranting

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 14:41

          Yet you comment in them

          • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 14:42
            +3

            @Degeneracy: Yeah, but see, unlike you, I have a job.

            • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 14:54

              @kerfuffle: Ur also 20+ years older than me

              • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 15:00

                @Degeneracy: Nope. I just know what to say to get a job, unlike you. I don't consider myself above certain jobs, unlike you. I volunteered to get some experience onto my resume and it went from there. Unlike you, I'm not afraid to put the hard work in.

                • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:05
                  +1

                  @kerfuffle: I applied to the lowest of the lows. I don't want to clean cars because money isn't stable.

                  I'm not working for free. I don't want to do what I don't enjoy for free.

                  • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 15:07
                    +2

                    @Degeneracy: I don't think you can afford to be picky with what jobs are available, seeing you have none. Once again, you are showing fk all humility.

                    You're having a rant here for free, but that's not going to help you get a job, unlike volunteering.

                    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:12

                      @kerfuffle: I hate being outside the house. I hate being outdoors. Words cannot express how much I hate being outside my house, or outside westfield. I hate everything do to with being outside the house. I really really do. I hate fresh air. I hate trees. I hate grass. I hate the sun. And most of all I hate being near other people. I can't volunteer, because I can't tollerate being in that enviroment. I can't.

                      I've given up on getting a job. It's not gonna happen

                      • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 15:17
                        +5

                        @Degeneracy: You know you have to leave the house to go to uni, right?

                        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:18

                          @kerfuffle: I'll enjoy it as much I enjoyed high school. I'll just stay in the library the entire time

                          • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 15:19
                            +1

                            @Degeneracy: OK, enjoy living the incel life. You clearly do not want to help yourself. And you wonder why you have no minimum wage job.

                      • moar bargains on 15/01/2024 - 15:18
                        +4

                        @Degeneracy: So what's the game plan after thousands and thousands of dollars worth of university debt? None of those things above are magically going to go away. Completely remote CS jobs are few and far between, and you're not going to be in any better of a position, because you will still be competing with a whole bunch of other people who have more experience doing anything than you do.

  • Gdsamp on 15/01/2024 - 14:29

    Considered flogging a course (dropshipping etc) while boasting about an extravagant lifestyle on tiktok?

  • curtturtle on 15/01/2024 - 14:45

    Did you actually get an offer from a uni or just meet the minimum grade?

  • Godric on 15/01/2024 - 14:57

    Have you tried applying at Red Rooster?

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 14:58

      Nah. I gave up a while ago.

  • digitizer on 15/01/2024 - 15:05

    If not a joke post - sounds like life has started humbling you
    Don't need to give up though - one day your peers will be running govt and it's all in your hands to change what you hate

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:06
      +3

      Sydney grammar students will be running govt. They'll change nothing. They'll be mirrors of their parents. They'll grow up

  • Thaal Sinestro on 15/01/2024 - 15:20
    -2

    I apologize for the people giving you a hard time. It is truly refreshing to find someone who is not a narcissist. You admit to having many character flaws; many people today think ("I am the greatest"; "the world revolves around me"; "I should be paid $250,000 a year for going to meetings and sitting behind a desk").

    Ignore kerfuffle; kerfuffle represents privileged middle class people who have never had to struggle in their life. They don't understand what it is like to be battlers. They have a "blame the victim" mentality. They love to bash the proletariat.

    After finishing university (just a bachelor's degree) with a relatively good GPA I constantly got rejected for jobs, and most of the jobs I applied for were minimum wage unskilled jobs. At your age, 18, you are competing with kids 15 to 17 who get paid a considerably lower wage for entry level jobs.

    If I was government the country, one of the first things I would do, would be to introduce UBI for anyone 18 years old and over. No longer would people have to beg employers to give them a **^&$^%$ minimum wage job.

    • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 15:22
      +3

      Ignore kerfuffle; kerfuffle represents privileged middle class people who have never had to struggle in their life.

      Clearly didn't read my comments, did you? Middle class I am not. Struggle I did. Unlike the OP, I worked hard to get to where I am today. Unlike the OP, I took feedback on board with humility. No wonder you relate with the OP; you too seem to play video games a lot and not have a grip on reality.

      • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:26
        -3

        I don't want to volunteer for 2 months to get a minimum wage job. I want money now. Anyone can be a bag boy. Yet I'm getting rejected. I'm applying to every job except janitor. I hate volunteering. I just want money. Yet everyone here is acting liek i'm asking for a 200k job. I don't understand why. I'm asking for the lowest level jobs.

        I dont' have the time to study for uni and a minimum wage job

        • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 15:29
          +3

          Anyone can be a bag boy, yet you're not one.

          • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:33

            @kerfuffle: Because they can pay a 14 year old kid less, or get someone my age whom already did it when he was 14. I'm nto a good candiate even before my personality

            • drfuzzy on 15/01/2024 - 18:04
              +3

              @Degeneracy: Why do you keep comparing yourself to 14 year olds with jobs and experience?

              You are 18 and don't have a job nor experience.

        • Gdsamp on 15/01/2024 - 15:30
          +5

          I dont' have the time to study for uni and a minimum wage job

          yea you do. Myself & just about all of my mates did

          • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:32
            -1

            @Gdsamp: I don't have tiem to get certifications/volutneer. I need money. I can work like 1 day but no more

            • geekcohen on 15/01/2024 - 15:34
              +3

              @Degeneracy: and 1 day a week is going to give you ssssoooo much money.

              I worked 3 or 4 days a week when I was at Uni. I worked at Coles in the Fresh Produce Department. Worked every weekend and then 5am-9am most Thursday's and Friday's. Before Uni at 10am only up the road from Coles.

              Just need to not be lazy and just suck it up.

              • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:36

                @geekcohen: Haha that's too much mate.

                6 hours can net me $120. That's plenty! It will cover food and bus ticket. And I'll have 70 dollars to save. don't need anymore

                • geekcohen on 15/01/2024 - 15:37
                  +2

                  @Degeneracy: $120 a week?

                  Mate, that is just a tank of fuel for my car.

                  $120 won't get you far when you have a car to run.

                  • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 15:39

                    @geekcohen: No worries; OP can't drive

                    • geekcohen on 15/01/2024 - 15:41

                      @kerfuffle: I saw that, but I bet they will get one/need one in the future.

                      • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 15:48
                        +1

                        @geekcohen: Considering one needs to leave the house in order to practice enough to become competent at getting a licence, it seems very unlikely OP will be getting their licence any time soon.

          • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 15:36
            +3

            @Gdsamp: Actually, to be fair, a lot of students are having to quit their studies because they can't afford it due to the cost of living. They need more hours to be able to live and it's impacting their studies, so they end up deferring or withdrawing.

            Source: Work in a uni.

      • Thaal Sinestro on 15/01/2024 - 15:42

        You're very much like Anthony Albanese then; someone who was poor once but has thoroughly embraced the bourgeois worldview and has no sympathy for the poor. The rest of what I said stands: "They have a "blame the victim" mentality. They love to bash the proletariat".

        You don't know me much either. I haven't played a computer game in about 6 months, though I have acquired freebies and purchased some games on sale. I do mod computer games though, but that is closer to programming than to actually playing. Unlike you, at least I take the time occasionally to post deals rather than just castigate others. I have enough grip on reality to know that life sucks when you are poor, the government doesn't care about the poor, and in Australia life is rigged in favor of the affluent. People who are on lower class welfare programs in Australia are treated like subhuman trash (I was on the dole once), but there is no stigma attached to all of the middle class welfare programs (negative gearing, dividend imputation, private health insurance rebates, capital gains tax deductions for investment properties, heavily subsidized childcare for households earning $500,00 a year, etc).

        • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 15:44
          +3

          What I do know about you: your research skills suck.

          • meatgasm on 15/01/2024 - 16:12

            @kerfuffle: I mean, it looks like Thaai gave some examples of his gripes, whereas you griped without any substantiation whatsoever?

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:28
      -1

      it's cool. Internet forums man. People often are out of touch with reality. I simply stated I didn't want to be a janitor, nor do I want to do freelance work, yet everyone is crusading me. Everyone here is 35+ anyway

      Everyone is ignoring the 15-17 year old kids. Simply blaming me without realizing I act different irl than on forums

      • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 15:29
        +3

        The only one out of touch with reality is you.

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:32
          -3

          I WANT A (profanity) MINIMUM WAGE JOB. YET EVERYONE IS ACTING AS IF I NEED A PHD

          • geekcohen on 15/01/2024 - 15:36
            +7

            @Degeneracy: Yeah, you need a PHD in a Better Attitude.

            • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:37

              @geekcohen: It's MINIMUM WAGE. Anyone shoudl be able to get minimum wage. (profanity) hell. Talentless people need jobs too

              • geekcohen on 15/01/2024 - 15:39
                +4

                @Degeneracy: Yeah, but no one is giving you a job because of your attitude. If you had a better attitude, I am sure you would have a job by now.

          • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 15:38
            +7

            @Degeneracy: And a lot of people here gave you feedback on how to improve your chances in getting one, yet you consider such suggestions beneath you.

            • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:41

              @kerfuffle: I don't have time to volunteer 2 months for a minimum wage job. That's ridicious. And even then, there will be a 14 year old kid who has also volunteered, and he'll get the job.

              It's too late. I'm stuffed. I give up. I would rather play on my PC

              • geekcohen on 15/01/2024 - 15:42
                +3

                @Degeneracy:

                It's too late. I'm stuffed. I give up. I would rather play on my PC

                There is that shit attitude. Giving in and giving up rather than soldiering on and keep trying.

                • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:44

                  @geekcohen: Okay but my efforts are better put getting a higher WAM/GPA. Would you not agree? Maybe try to get along with the professors and get them to refer me to an internship

                  • geekcohen on 15/01/2024 - 15:47

                    @Degeneracy: Yes, that is definitely a start for things moving forward. But it won't help your right now, like you want.

                    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:49

                      @geekcohen: I can wait. I don't need money right now anyway. I just want it. Want vs need. That's why I'm not desperate

              • Gdsamp on 15/01/2024 - 15:43

                @Degeneracy: besides the obvious explanation of being a troll
                have you ever reflected on why you might not be willing to do this

                • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 15:45
                  +1

                  @Gdsamp: I reckon OP has depression.

                • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:45

                  @Gdsamp: Because I hate going outside. I hate helping. All I enjoy is my bedroom. And most of all I HATE dealing with other people. I am uncomfortable beeaing near people like that

      • geekcohen on 15/01/2024 - 15:35
        +3

        Everyone here is 35+ anyway

        Cheers for the generalisation. I've just turned 30.

  • localhost on 15/01/2024 - 15:21
    +3

    With this attitude and expectations have you tried for Optus CEO? I think you will be a perfect match…oh wait, you don't have basic skills.

    • moar bargains on 15/01/2024 - 15:45
      +5

      basic skills

      Not a requirement for the job

  • Peaky on 15/01/2024 - 15:41
    +2

    18 and already jaded as a 50 year old civil servant, have you checked for any entry level Government jobs?

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:43

      Haha watched American Beauty and was really startled at how much I related to Spacey's charecter. Best comedy film I've ever seen.

      Anyway I want a part time job. not government. and government ain't hiring me, they'd rather hire a 21+ guy on centrelink

      • Peaky on 15/01/2024 - 16:10

        Was a bit of a joke but are you SURE you want to go to Uni? You said yourself you're a crappy student. Uni is a big step up from HS and you won't be able to coast, especially if you pick one of the better Unis. Plus, people have this idea that you're guaranteed a job as soon as you graduate. Not so.

        I get relating to Lester (maybe not as an 18yo LMAO). Now as long as you don't watch American Psycho and say you relate to Patrick then we good.

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 16:13

          No I don't want to go to uni. but I don't want to be a tradie even more. And I got okay markks in advaned math(band 5). Just got band 3s in the rest. ANd I'm going to WSU lol.

          • Peaky on 15/01/2024 - 17:11
            +5

            @Degeneracy: So, I went to Uni a few years back as a mature age student and you remind me of many of the kids I saw in first year that dropped out. Did average to OK at school, no job experience, started Uni because they didn't really know what else to do after HS and struggled since it required a whole bunch of things they weren't cut out for. You can roll the dice but sounds like a waste of 6mo to a year if you don't even have a good GPA to show for it. Nevermind the HECS fees.

            Honestly a career, even if it's only for a few years sounds like a much better fit for you. Easier said than done, yes I know, but a certification or two will go a long way. Look for traineeships, my first job was a trainee techie for the government with no prior experience. Within a few years I was earning very good money.

            And I know you're opposed to volunteering, but you'd be shocked at the amount of Uni students that volunteer. They aren't doing it because they want to be good Samaritans, they're doing it because they need something to fill their CVs and a good reference.

  • happydude on 15/01/2024 - 15:49
    +1

    My advice with no experience is to to start with very casual work.

    Get a NSW Responsible Service of Alcohol Certificate then search for Event Staff or similar.

    Stadiums are always a good start. They give anyone a go usually because if you are no good you just don't get invited back the next week.

    This group does a lot of this work in Sydney https://www.seek.com.au/Gema-Group-jobs/at-this-company

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 15:52

      I checked.
      here are some red flags

      1. The pay is far too high for no experiance
      2. ONe job required a forklife licence
      3. one required prior experiance
      • happydude on 15/01/2024 - 16:04
        +6
        1. The pay is high because it is casual work on a weekend.
        2. So don't apply for that.
        3. So what? Apply.

        I guess if you worked at a stadium they would need to put down an extra dropkick on the stats sheet.

        • whatwasherproblem on 15/01/2024 - 16:41
          +4

          The pay is high because it is casual work on a weekend.

          This is an underrated point for you actually, @Degeneracy. You might not have experience or a work ethic, but as a soon to be Uni-goer/NEET what you can leverage is your infinite availability. If a job needs someone to come in and do menial nonsense on a weekend/public holiday/etc, you can stand out by putting your hand up for that stuff. Sure, most others would have fun weekend/holiday activities that they'd want to do instead (hobbies, a desire to be out-and-about, spending time with family and friends, etc), but you aren't cursed with any of those terrible burdens.

          It's a point you would have been wise to press for the KFC interview: what you have that those 14 year olds that you're competing with don't is that you don't have anywhere you need to be at 9am-3pm on a weekday. That's actually powerful leverage.

          • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 16:44

            @whatwasherproblem: You're right. I can leverage that.

            But I did say that I'm available on weekends and holidays lol

            • whatwasherproblem on 15/01/2024 - 16:47
              +6

              @Degeneracy: Yeah but so are the little kiddies you're hoping to be calling your coworkers. In fact, weekends and holidays are the only time they can actually work, so that's when you have the least leverage actually.

              What differentiates you is that you're available on weekdays, i.e. Monday through Friday, 8am through 4pm. At least until Uni starts up, but even then you'll have gaps between your lectures and stuff that you can potentially use for work as well.

  • MrKnowItAll on 15/01/2024 - 15:51
    +9

    I think overall you'll need to change your attitude. Not trying to be nasty or anything, just calling it as it is. Reason being is I've found a well adjusted attitude and no degree will get you further than just a degree and a bad attitude.

    My personal story is that I left school at the end of year 10, studied cert I in IT (passed) but dropped out of that to work full time a storeperson as it was earning me money to fund my hobbies. The definition of a 'dropout'

    I worked in supply roles for a decade before joining a private healthcare organisation in supply. Fast forward 9 years here and I've gone from a storeperson to a manager of an analytics team, with no qualifications at all. I mean, the people under me are more qualified than I am which makes no sense.
    How did I get here? just a keen interest in data analytics and bluffing a little where it called for it - anything I said I could do without the prior experience I worked hard to learn after hours so when it came to it, I at least could do the basics of what I claimed.

    Just remember that absolutely nothing is beneath you and that you should always speak to people how you'd want to be spoken to. As an example, telling your teacher to piss off when they ask why you were late takes the same effort as saying "sorry about that" - the outcome however is more favorable choosing the polite option compared to being an ass about it.

    Also wage has little to do with who's 'deserving' of a role - you aren't just automatically entitled to something because it's low down by societies standards. Customer focused jobs actually require someone to be polite and able to speak to someone without making their business look bad so any attitude in an interview would just tell the interviewed that this person is going to be rude to customers and that'll look bad for business.

  • Aneurism on 15/01/2024 - 16:09

    Option 1:
    Luck and Being in the right place at the right time, with the right attitude.

    Option 2:
    Work on excelling at a skill and be exceptionally good at it such that others can see that skill as being of use.

    Option 3:
    work on strengthening your body (This would open doors for hard labor type roles). You will need to also be thick skinned for this type of role.

    Casual position are lower investment and they can drop you if you turn out to be a deadbeat but it can be a good place to get started. You will need to prove yourself through excellence and perseverance or obtain enough experience with positive feedback so as to open doors at another workplace.

    • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 16:15
      +1

      work on strengthening your body (This would open doors for hard labor type roles)

      Except OP is too lazy and hates labour work. He wouldn't last ten minutes

  • The Wololo Wombat on 15/01/2024 - 16:24
    +1

    Honestly, as a Christian, my advice is to go to a local church (one with other young people). Through that community (ultimately, through Christ) you will have a 180 in your perspectives here - growth in character, confidence and purpose.

    • Papa Huggies on 15/01/2024 - 16:26
      +4

      Just don't call OP to serve, that's volunteering and far beneath him

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