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The value is not in the price but the convenience it gives for those in the middle of nowhere. Can't even get a landline and mobile coverage is close to if not non-existent.
But this is ozbargain. So theres that.
The issue is paying $20 a month to rent the equipment. Hardly a bargain.
Seems predatory to me, like in America where they trick people in to paying rental fees on cheap modems for years.
Just with internet service providers of old. Once we get competition from other prividers. Looking at you bald man. Prices are sure to come down.
You could always buy the equipment in full. This is a good option for those who dont want to pay for the dish antenna in full right at the outset.
The issue is paying $20 a month to rent the equipment. Hardly a bargain.
OP is wrong anyway. Its $19. We all know OzB are sticklers for details.
The value is not in the price but the convenience
This is a site for BARGAINS.
Maybe post it on OzConvenience
Missed this part of my comment did we?
But this is ozbargain. So theres that.
@geekcohen: Jessie Ryder was talking about value. So i expressed what the 'value' was.
And I ended my comment with but this is ozbargain. So theres that.
Meaning this site is not about value. But i guess you too missed that.
Doesn't seem like value to me
Thanks for sharing.
It’s on the front page so it must represent value.
1 free month (when you go on a cruise) via referral and return it after lol
Isn't the roam service different than the fixed location service ?
Same hardware, different "plan".
Lol how is this a deal?
Not wanting your internet service used by military forces on either side does not equate to genocide. Talk about mental gymnastics…
Oh so that's why Starlink terminals & access were provided for free to Ukraine (now paid for by DoD) and why the Russians are actively trying to jam Starlink & have threatened to shoot down the satellites.
You got no idea, stop watching TV
I don't think he cares who uses Starlink only that he gets paid.Now that the DOD has a contract with Starlink and is in control of a portion of Starlink over Ukraine The Pentagon has received control of a portion of Starlink satellite communication terminals used by the Defense Forces Starlink is getting paid and that is what they care about.
from the same link.
"Previously, Musk had imposed restrictions on Ukrainian terminals to avoid hindering defense or disrupting military operations. This included secretly instructing engineers not to activate Starlink near the Crimean coast during a potential Ukrainian operation against the Russian naval fleet"
So if Russia is sourcing Starlink terminals surely he could deactivate them Ukraine intelligence ‘confirms’ Russian forces using Starlink
Do we have to turn every deal into a political debate lol
I think it is a nice to know. If we were all politically aware, majority of the population wouldn't be unknowingly supporting a political party that supports genocide, or generously works for AIPAC, or NRA. Such information is not readily available and often times misinformed. We vote them in but they mostly work on behalf of their donor corporations. Its sad.
When you are buying a product, wouldn't it be great if there would always be a side note on how that company uses its profits - eg. Toyota lobbying for republicans and against EVs. If I had known this before I bought my current Toyota, I would have gone with a different brand. If there are relatively similar alternatives available, I prefer to know what kind of bottom line I am supporting. Its sad the young generation is not into politics - while most of our lives are affected by politics and policies from products, housing, medical care, you name it. I support politics in everything as long as its not misinformation.WTF does a Japanese company lobbying the US government have to do with your purchasing a car in Australia?
@The Judge: In a global economy, my money to Toyota is going to fund all these nonsense lobbying. Except some exceptions like swift gun control laws and universal healthcare, Australia is just a mimicry of US policies, follower of US led wars and practices. What US does affects us and we blindly support them in the world stage. Have you seen how the NRA has been so active/funding in Aus trying to roll back some gun laws in Aus little by little? I can give you hundreds of these examples. What happens in US slowly trickles back in here.
@MKBHD: Toyota isn't on the EV team as they did the analysis to show producing and running 7 hybrids are better than one EV car. Toyota is currently betting on hydrogen cars as the green initiative.
all these nonsense lobbying
Nonsense meaning 'anyone who disagrees with me'.
Except some exceptions like
Things I agree with.
@1st-Amendment: remind me how many mass shootings have happened in Aus after the law was put in place?
@1st-Amendment: remind me how many mass shootings have happened in Aus after the guns were taken away?
remind me how many mass shootings have happened in Aus after the law was put in place?
Oh I see you changed the subject completely… And you thought this would make look… ?
Self awareness level -1
answer the question Mr. freedom of speech
You seem to be confusing compelled speech with freedom of speech…
Self awareness -2
/threadClosed
Lol… self awareness -3
Hey look, the thread is still going! Because in a free country you don't get to tell others when they can stop speaking.
Your definition of 'political awareness' seems to mean 'political echo chamber'. Thanks for clearing that up!
@1st-Amendment: please keep speaking. your responses are valuable and so informative.
self awareness -101
genius meter -grandmaster@MKBHD: I thought the thread was closed? But now you're back again? Does that mean it's not closed and you lied?
Self awareness -4
You know for someone who demands more awareness of others you really should take a look in the mirror.
@MKBHD: Civilians own 3.5 million guns (legally) in Australia, they'll be many more not registered. Plus all the cops/security guards etc. The idea that Australia is gun free is a myth.
@MKBHD: Yes it sounds like you've simplified it. Australia doesn't have mass shootings due to cultural differences, eg the fame accorded to shooters in US, the wealth gap in US. And the heavily defended and publicized right to shoot, not guns, but people. Due to population size.
compared to America, we have 10% of their population. Their mass shooting of 20 people is our mass shooting of 2 people and we have those.we have 10% of their population. Their mass shooting of 20 people is our mass shooting of 2 people and we have those.
so you're aligning overall population size with mass shooting casualties numbers of single events?
That seems like a strange (inaccurate) way to compare them, rather than say quantity/number of events, or rate per capita of victims per 100,000 population?@SBOB: Fair then. In that case, your metrics could be view as being the same as mine. But really I think the answer is just probability, the higher the population the more likely to manifest motivated psychopaths. So the per capita should apply to the antagonist not the victims I guess.
But really I think the answer is just probability,
It's actually a lot more complicated than that. The idea that you say Country A has X guns and Y Shootings is 100% correlated to Country B is fantasy. Even looking within one country, you get widely variable rates in different areas. As an example Chicago and Houston are similar size cities. Chicago's homicide rate is 4x that of Houston. And as we all know Republican Texas has more liberal gun laws than Democrat Illinois that has 'gun free zones'.
The common mistake I see people make is they just look at raw averages (a very common mistake with the Left) without digging deeper.
To use the US as an example, 54% of gun deaths are suicide. If those people didn't shoot themselves they most likely would find a different method. So you can cut their raw figure in half immediately. People committing suicide in Australia don't have the same access to the same tools so simply choose other methods. The US and Australia have similar suicide rates, and no gun laws will change that.
Next up is gang violence, which like Australia can't be solved by new laws, since criminals by definition don't follow the law.
Then you have things like police shootings, or home owner self-defence, almost all of which are justified, since the criminals above are armed you cannot have an unarmed police force that are unwilling to enforce the law.
Add in the other dozens of variables and the idea that some sort of blanket gun ban will solve all the problem is simply naive. But then lefties never really were known for thinking things through…
Ok let me simplify it. Australia is mass shooting free due to common sense gun laws.
There have been 23 Mass shootings in Australia since the gun buy back scheme in 1997.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_Aust…Self awareness -5
@MKBHD: Enjoy not buying anything from a multinational, ever. It's all well & good to be principled but it's really not practical unless you exceed a certain level of wealth (most people don't).
@The Judge: I understand the choices are limited but I would still rather make an informed decision and discard the less ethical ones as best as I can :)
@MKBHD: I wish I could, but navigating life with 2 small kids without access to supermarkets, Amazon & pharmaceuticals doesn't sound like fun.
You're just yelling into a void. People aren't being tricked, they're actively choosing to not care about the world around them and take pride in being ignorant. (For those about to have a tantrum, I'm not demanding you change - you do you)
Your claim that this is something afflicting the young however is just bizarre. While older people often love acting like they know everything, the young tend to be far more politically aware. To the extent young people are incessantly attacked for being "naive" etc. by said older generation.
the young tend to be far more politically aware
Aware of things the TikTok algorithm wants them to be aware off.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/15/23962766/nearly-one-thir…
@callum9999: I wholeheartedly agree with you. And I do believe the voting pattern of the younger generation is more "sane" but they are still extremely misinformed. I just wish the politics in general was more "available" and not as a misinformation. Like Nikki Haley recently said "Politics is a distraction"
the young tend to be far more politically aware.
So at what age specifically does a person flip from being aware to not aware?
To the extent young people are incessantly attacked for being "naive" etc. by said older generation.
Well go read your post then see if you can figure out why that is.
Random people's opinions on a bargain site is not a responsible way to become politically aware. Even if talking to drunks at a pub you know your not getting 'educated' by an eight year old with info they got playing Fortnite.
If we were all politically aware, majority of the population wouldn't be unknowingly supporting a political party that supports genocide
Genocide lol…
Everything I disagree with is Hitler/genocide/end of the world…
I support politics in everything as long as it agrees with me.
FTFY.
Here come the woke's. Run for cover
he is a businessman with primary objective = money,
if he provides access to Ukraine then Russia may shoot down his few or all satellites which is = money loss.
He won’t care of which side looses or wins until his money stream has no blocks
I’m gonna use that argument next time at work…yeah I could do that or on the other hands tomorrow China will nuke us all because someone in Taiwan uses our service for all we know so who’s to say really if it’s worth actually doing that.
I’ll report if I get anything other than chuckles.
maybe if it was rent to own.
So I wonder when new models come out, if you get to upgrade for free?
Serious question. Rent to own which exactly?
Probably the equipment.
Ok. Then what you going to do with it? Still need a service to connect to.
@xoom: I don't think you get it xoom, after 30 months you spot paying the $20 a month rent as you own the dish now.
That's what rent to own means.@Jessie Ryder: See. Im learning. Hence the question.
For the record I get the concept of rent to own. Like apartments. Or cars. Or phones or laptops.
But wouldn't there be better / different satellite communications tech by the time you finish renting to owning this thing? Wouldn't you be worried of that?
@xoom: ok, you missed the point of rent to own….and the second part of the comment.
rather then paying up front you pay it off over 3yrs or whatever. either way you're paying for it..no different whether you pay upfront or over time. Just like a Telstra router/modem or the Foxtel IQ box or phone plans.
and the second part I wondered if you get free upgrades. If it wasn't rent-to-own, if you got access to the latest model, sort of like those Telstra phone plans where you can upgrade every 12mths.
@xoom: I don't think the tech will change, just the compression of data (think 3G>4G>5G), it's still the same underlying principles, and they can't exactly keep changing Starlink satellites every time there's an evolution in satcoms.
@The Judge: You do know they have plans to replace satellites as they lose their way to stay in space and eventually burn up in earths atmosphere.
They're already planning to launch v2 of the starlink satellites as soon as they can get starship operational. Bigger satellites with more capabilities.
@xoom: Naturally these things have degrading orbits but you alluded to satcom changing over the next 5 years. Yes Starlink satellites ultimately need to be replaced but no not every time if/when an evolution in the technology occurs.
@The Judge: 3 to 5 years is a long time in tech. Most of us mere mortals / plebs don't even know whats already in the pipeline for tech.
And Elon is a businessman. If theres a buck that can be made investing in newer faster tech. He will do it.
@xoom: Using radio waves for communication has been around a long time & is unlikely to change any time soon.
@The Judge: The basic principles have been the same. I understand that. However the likes of Elon and Jeff didn't form their empires on basic principles of communications.
Its the application of said basic principles along with other things that they made their money on.
@The Judge: They have a mixture of V1 and V2 Mini Sats.
They are launching about 22/23 every few days, they have launched just shy of 6,000 to what I saw last and about 300 to 400 or something like that have burnt up. There are still 5,500 or so operational worldwide.
They're already planning to launch v2 of the starlink satellites as soon as they can get starship operational
They are already launching v2 minis.
Planning on a 1yr Aus road trip. So politics aside, this looks like a good deal. Thanks OP.
Except that it's for residential and not roam 😔
You sunk kernelOK's battleship.
…and I followed the link which took me to the UK starlink site. Is this deal even for Aus?
I tried my address and it said it is available. Im in suburban nsw.
starlink.com is world wide, how did you get "UK"? Just plug in your address and away you go.
Starlink roaming, so not this plan. Do you really need internet everywhere? I'd look at CelFi booster in my vehicle before this. $1000 with no ongoing fees and picks up the Telstra mobile phone signal and boosts it for a radius of around 20m around the vehicle. So you get mobile coverage in a lot more places around Australia.
We had both on our last trip and in places like Cape York the CelFi had no chance. It was insane to have gigabit internet in the literal middle of nowhere.
Yeah I get that. But driving down the road at 110kmph the CelFi works for calls, the Starlink not so much.
Purchased a refurbished dish , comes with first month free. Use it travelling. Many places don't have telstra phone coverage but dish works fine, plus you can make calls on your phone through it.
We turn the plan off on on depending where we are travelling to. If there is adequate mobile phone cover we don't turn on starlink for the month.
The travelling starlink plan is more expensive than the residential plan.Are there fees to activate the service?
No. Just the plan cost. No activate/reactivate fees.
Purchased a refurbished dish , comes with first month free
Might have been the deal at the time, not the case now. But if you use someone's referral link, you get 1 month free after you have paid the 1st month.
This isn't really a deal, it's just a new service offering and has been available since January. It would take 33 months on rental fees to pay back the $599 cost.
Could wait for a sale and pick it up when it is $499 or $399 for new hardware. But, you could also get refurbed hardware which is often even cheaper.
I am a fan and supporter of Starlink, but not this deal.
Agree not a great deal, but your math dont check out, $600/$20 = 30 months
The OP is wrong, it is $19
A$19/mo for hardware rental
Still have to factor in $30 delivery.
So it is technically $629 for brand new equipment delivered. So it is 33.1 months. $629/$19 is 33.1.
Ah you are right my mistake
No deal
There has been much better deals with refurbed equipment. Renting doesn’t make sense unless you need it very temporarily.
Starlink are hoping people set and forget, so I’d say this deal is against OzB values.
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Doesn't seem like value to me and your signed up just to post this?