Proactive Action - Xiaomi (& Other Chinese Brands / Import) Phone Owners Affected by 3G Shutdown (Now Due to Be Network Blocked)

Tuukmaak on 24/10/2024 - 13:56
Last edited 01/11/2024 - 18:13 by 1 other user

UPDATE 1/11/24 - Response from grey import seller after I contacted them regarding a Redmi Note 12 that is no longer working. (Of course I know it is not their fault, but this is a good way to get more pressure on Xiaomi to do an update, and to put pressure on the government to whitelist"
"We have investigate the issue comprehensively and follow up instantly with distributor and ask them to push Xiaomi to resolve the issue. After our best endeavor, as of 31 OCT, Xiaomi confirm that their device is actually capable of emergency calls over 4G or 5G. This is an compatible device. However, the disconnection results from new ACMA regulations effective October 28, 2024, requiring carriers to restrict devices that can’t support 000 emergency calls over 4G or 5G from accessing their networks. It is out of our control. It is a government, manufacturer and network provider level. They recklessly blocking usable phone regardless of compatibility. They block for most phones that not purchase from them or from their partners and force you to buy a new one from them.
Meanwhile, we are pushing our distributor to communicate with manufacturer for updating the list and there are news that a firmware update will soon launch from Xiaomi."

UPDATE 1/11/24
Statement from Xiaomitech Australia (related to those who purchased in Australia through authorized channels)
https://shorturl.at/pAyfu

UPDATE 30/10/24 - Please also email
support.global@support.mi.com as we now have some traction

  • After multiple emails I finally got a NON-standard response! Hope is on the horizon! If this ends up working, you all can shout me a beer (or preferably a non-alcoholic and refreshing beverage)!

"Hello, Greetings from Xiaomi Customer Support! This is Eric.
Thank you for your feedback. We have noticed this situation, and concerned team are working on it. Please wait for the system update.
We would like to know if your device is only unable to use the emergency call function normally, but is able to use other functions normally, or if it has no signal/service at all. Once we have your feedback, we will get back to you with proper handling.
Best Regards
Xiaomi Global Email Service"

SUMMARY

  • Certain 4G and 5G phones currently working on VoLTE may be actively blocked through a government directive after 28th October
  • These are usually grey import phones that revert to 3G for 000 emergency calls
  • There are a lot of people ignoring the annoying text and voice messages on their phones, thinking "My phone IS 4G/5G, I am not affected"
  • Come October 28, there is going to be a tsunami of shock and anger

Oct 24 last minute legislation to block 4G and 5G phones that revert to 3G for 000 calls
https://www.legislation.gov.au/F2024L01353/asmade/downloads

Banana3's Summary (READ THIS FIRST to understand what the issue actually IS, instead of spouting "3G shutdown has been announced for years…")
"Again, the issue is not whether 3G should be shut down or not. I think most people in this discussion agree that it needs to be shut down. The issue is that a few years ago the communication was: as long as your phone supports 4g, then you should be fine. Then earlier this year: No, 4g alone is not going to cut it, you need to have a phone that supports VoLTE. Then: Wait, actually, not just any VoLTE, only those that the network allows your phone to use (yes, Vodafone told me that when my perfectly working VoLTE phone stopped working after they shut down 3g). Then on the last minute: Oh wait, actually, not just that, your phone also needs to be able to call 000 on 4g by default. None of these have been properly planned, or thought of, or mitigated. It's all just a big mess. If anyone is confused, it's not their fault."

What to do?

Useful information:
The Little Known Problems with VoLTE Emergency Calling - https://medium.com/@jamesdwho/the-little-known-problems-with…

Mobile 3G Mobile Phone Xiaomi

Comments

        • McMaferMur on 31/10/2024 - 20:25

          People should go to the street and protest months ago not now….

      • tooblue on 31/10/2024 - 21:29
        +1

        No, it's not another (Chinese Brands / Import) Phone as in this thread.
        It is a fully VoLTE compatible Australia stock Google Pixel phone that was blocked.

    • ihfree on 31/10/2024 - 20:23

      Have you looked at any of the other threads?

      This is likely because the phone can no longer call 000 as it would have to drop back to 3g rather than calling over 4g.

    • theHMASfriendship on 31/10/2024 - 20:27
      +1

      What? 3g is shutting down??

      • McMaferMur on 31/10/2024 - 23:07
        -2

        What? What is 3G??? Is it GGG?

        • cornucopia on 01/11/2024 - 10:19

          I think it's some sort of horse…

    • mapax on 31/10/2024 - 20:30

      Yes

  • HopSkipJumpFallSplat on 31/10/2024 - 20:33

    I would never defend the Telcos but it isn't them, they are following Government legislation.

    But I am sure the Telcos love this legislation.

    • johnjones8 on 31/10/2024 - 20:39

      Why not stagger the disconnection of mobile service for 'incompatible' devices a few months out after the 3G shutdown instead of at the same time?

    • McMaferMur on 31/10/2024 - 21:12
      +1

      Telco and retailers jbhifi harvey

  • freesia328 on 31/10/2024 - 20:40
    +2

    Melbourne, Xiaomi MI 9T, Coles and Aldi
    Both Coles and Aldi blocked my phone in the afternoon yesterday. Later at night, Aldi sim started working again. No long warning message when I made a call today. Coles still blocks my phone.
    My son has the same phone with Vodafone sim. His device is working fine, but he still got that long message this morning when he called me.

  • Iggemo on 31/10/2024 - 21:04
    +7

    Why hasn't this whole clusterf#!@ been on the news at all?

    • chrisie on 31/10/2024 - 21:05
      +1

      Yes that's exactly my thoughts

    • ozperson on 01/11/2024 - 18:57
      +1

      They probably will get a backlash for supporting any 'chinese' brand phones. Only the farmers group is getting a bit of spotlight from them.

      I do wonder how much % is this group in the whole mobile phone share?

    • ozperson on 03/11/2024 - 12:48
      +2

      It is finally in the news

      ABC news

  • Loot N Plunder on 31/10/2024 - 21:28
    +3

    With Xiaomi / Redmi / Poco some of those need to be activated through a code using the handset
    enables an on/off slider for VoLTE * # * # 86583 # * # *
    enables an on/off slider for VoWiFi * # * # 869434 # * # *

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID8Lj0lUFGI

  • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2024 - 00:41

    Choice excerpts from the legislation:

    Carriers = Telstra, Optus and TPG/Vodafone
    CSP's (Carriage Service Providers) = the 3 carriers and all other MVNO brands eg. Boost, Aldi, Amaysim, Lebara etc

    Section 63
    Carriers must maintain and share real time blacklists of devices that any CSP which uses their network can query. In other words, if you're banned from Boost, don't expect to jump across to Aldi because Telstra have already banned you at the network level

    Section 68
    On or after 2 November 2024, CSP's are required to use their "best endeavours" to "promptly identify" any phone that is trying to access the carrier network but cannot make emergency calls over 4G/VoLTE

    The example given:

    "For example, after 2 November 2024, industry testing may discover a class of mobile phones that can no longer access the emergency call service. Section 68 requires a CSP to use their best endeavours to identify whether any of its customers use that class of mobile phone."

    Real world meaning:

    If your suspect phone is still working this Sunday November 3, you have passed under the radar and should be OK to keep using the device. Of course, once the 3G towers for all carriers are gone and you do find yourself needing to call emergency services but for whatever reason it doesn't connect, you're on your own

  • Namidairo on 01/11/2024 - 00:43
    +2

    Compiled a small list of phones that Telstra say won't operate on their network.

    Most of these are just ancient 3G-only and early 4G things, but you can sit there and appreciate the fact that there are probably a large pile of 3G-only devices here which can finally rest and go to the recycling centre in the clouds.

    Although one should note the list of Sony devices included at the bottom. If you reconcile the model names, you'll see even their new stuff is blocked. (Eg. I can see NA variants of the Xperia 10 VI 5G are blocked)

    • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2024 - 00:56

      bobbth • 17 hr. ago •
      Nah that's not true, my wife has an AliExpress redmi note 11 which is 100% not loaded with Telstra firmware, it was capable of placing an e000 call on the volte b28 band a week before the shutdown. I shared this and was told that her device would probably be fine then but alas nope, it's bricked.

    • Iggemo on 01/11/2024 - 07:28

      Sadly the Xiaomis being blocked are way newer than what's on this list: there are ppl with Redmi Note 13s that are blocked.

      • Namidairo on 01/11/2024 - 09:36

        Unfortunately since GSMA don't allow public access to the TAC database, I've had to make do with a very outdated list that's crowdsourced. Thus the vast majority is old stuff.

        The carriers seem uninterested in sharing their internal spreadsheets on this matter too…

        The Sony list at the bottom is better as their update servers listed the TAC for them all, so it includes some fairly new models in there.

          • Namidairo on 01/11/2024 - 10:05
            +1

            @xwx: Swappa's list is okay, but they'd hardly appreciate me scraping through over a thousand pages in a very noisy manner.

            There is a workaround though, as I've found a wireless payment certification database listing what appear to be new models, but with their TAC listed in linked PDFs instead of within the db… However that'll be workable as I can just pull all the pdfs and regex the TAC.

              • Namidairo on 01/11/2024 - 11:48

                @xwx: Maintaining that would be an exercise in masochism, to be honest.

                Which is why the GSMA charge huge amounts to both access and register for allocations.

  • Costanza on 01/11/2024 - 06:31
    +11

    good news for some of you:-

    https://xiaomitech.com.au/blogs/news/notice-on-3g-shutdown-a…

    As of 31 Oct 2024 -

    As Australia’s 3G networks are being phased out, some Xiaomi Redmi and POCO users may experience connection issues on certain Australian mobile networks. This is not due to any compatibility issues with our devices for 4G or 5G networks. Instead, the disconnection results from new ACMA regulations effective October 28, 2024, requiring carriers to restrict devices that can’t support 000 emergency calls over 4G or 5G from accessing their networks.

    As Xiaomi’s authorised distributor in Australia, we’ve ensured that all models we’ve brought into the country meet local regulatory and network requirements. Each of these products supports 000 emergency calls over 4G and 5G. We are working closely with Telstra, Optus, and Vodafone to update their whitelists to include all authorised Xiaomi models. Once this process is complete, customers will regain uninterrupted network access on local 4G and 5G networks.

    If you purchased your Xiaomi device from one of our authorised retailers—including JB HiFi, Harvey Norman, Amazon Australia (not including third-party sellers), Mobileciti, or directly from our website Xiaomitech.com.au—since December 2023, you can be assured your device meets these regulatory standards. Full connectivity will be restored as soon as the carriers complete their whitelist updates. In the meantime, you may try to contact your carrier to request unblocking of your device. If you prefer not to wait, or if your carrier is unable to assist, please reach out to your retailer for exchange or return options.

    To verify if your Xiaomi phone is part of our authorised product range, check the first 8 digits of your phone’s IMEI 1 number against the following TAC codes:

    86036306, 86250706, 86719807, 86796407, 86603807, 86394307, 86135307, 86550407, 86867307, 86413607, 86679707, 86869407, 86628007, 86374007, 86448607, 86443307, 86745706, 86271706, 86436806, 86812906, 86749306, 86074406, 86753406, 86516707, 86943907, 86747507, 86021607, 86782606, 86462506, 86094906, 86111406, 86467407, 86101707, 86237707, 86176907, 86195507, 86134307, 86938007, 86159307, 86631607, 86331807, 86712707, 86459506, 86845106, 86874107, 86152007, 86730207, 86208607, 86440507, 86441107, 86221006, 86869907, 86069807, 86506307, 86415107, 86768007, 86016107, 86015307, 86316807, 86217207, 86808207, 86833307, 86709807, 86847707, 86462907, 86586507, 86624907.

    If you purchased your Xiaomi device outside our authorised channels, or if your IMEI’s first 8 digits do not match the above TAC codes, your device may be unsafe and unsuitable for use in Australia.

    Our products sold in Australia are also backed by standard warranties and consumer guarantees under Australian law, giving customers peace of mind with their purchases. If you need further assistance or have questions, please reach out to us at our support page: xiaomitech.com.au/pages/contact

    • Iggemo on 01/11/2024 - 07:31

      This is what i commented on another page. So they ARE going to force us to spend 2x as much money and buy Xiaomis from JB and the like from now on, we can't purchase them from overseas. My Ali bought Redmi is not on that approved list of course and i gather none imported will be. Not at all happy we are being forced to spend 2x the money for the exact same phone from now on.

    • avtek on 01/11/2024 - 08:16
      +1

      hopefully xiaomi themselves also provide a list of imei numbers for compatible phones that will include phones that have not been bought from the authorised australian xiaomi distributor above

        • avtek on 01/11/2024 - 08:49
          +1

          ok so not the imei numbers - the TAC numbers

          the list of TAC numbers should be made available to the public by xiaomi global

            • avtek on 01/11/2024 - 09:10

              @xwx: I'm not talking about them updating firmware xwx

              i'm asking for a TAC list of xiaomi phones that are capable of calling 000 without the 3g network - as that is the issue at hand

              regardless of where the phone is bought - can the phone call 000?

                • avtek on 01/11/2024 - 09:20

                  @xwx: personally my phone is on the list of tacs listed above by costanza

                  so it is compatible

                  but i bought my phone from aliexpress

                  so what i'm trying to say there must be a list of tacs from xioami global of compatible phones and that list should be made available

                    • avtek on 01/11/2024 - 09:33
                      +1

                      @xwx: my phone does not need any new firmware

                      it is a global version xiaomi phone with a matching TAC that is already capable of making 000 calls without the 3g network

                        • avtek on 01/11/2024 - 09:41

                          @xwx: thank you xwx

                          • snirodha on 01/11/2024 - 10:15

                            @avtek: Hi Mate, can you dm or state here which seller u bought off ? Thank you.

                            • avtek on 01/11/2024 - 10:23
                              +1

                              @snirodha: it was - Xiaomi Mi - Global Store - however when i went there just now it says they are no longer shipping to australia

                              • snirodha on 01/11/2024 - 10:29

                                @avtek: Oh ok. Thank you for update.

                                • avtek on 01/11/2024 - 10:33
                                  +1

                                  @snirodha: actually i was incorrect - Xiaomi Mi - Global Store are still shipping xiaomi phones to australia - its just the old listing i bought from has ended

                                  • snirodha on 01/11/2024 - 10:45

                                    @avtek: Awesome Mate. Did u ever receive a sms about 3g shutdown ? And which carrier u with ?

                                    • avtek on 01/11/2024 - 10:47

                                      @snirodha: vodaphone via kogan - never received warnings about shutdown - also tested 3 to 3498 etc and got a reply saying good news it is compatible with our network after 3g shutdown etc

                                      • snirodha on 01/11/2024 - 11:02

                                        @avtek: Thank you. At least some good news for us.

            • KaitoKid1412 on 01/11/2024 - 11:54
              +1

              @xwx: I have an interesting case. TAC not on that new list, phone still working. Passed the Telstra network check list, but am on Optus based network. Used to get warning messages, but stopped getting them. ALDI sent me automated message saying it looked like I would be okay, even though original message said I wouldn't. Swapped to Optus based network as I thought it would increase my chances of survival but now wish I stayed with ALDI seeing there are cases where phone work on Telstra but not Optus.

              Still unsure what will happen to

                • KaitoKid1412 on 01/11/2024 - 12:39

                  @xwx: No need to apologise, I think you replied to someone else with a lot of detail and effort.

                  My query was a separate one, and I thought I'd check in case you had any ideas

                    • KaitoKid1412 on 01/11/2024 - 12:52

                      @xwx: That makes sense, I might do that. Though I would have to figure out a way to make use of my yearly credit on Optus haha.

      • Iggemo on 01/11/2024 - 08:31
        +6

        This is the goal. Obviously Xiaomi Australia is looking after their imports but we need Xiaomi Global to do something similar now.

    • Costanza on 01/11/2024 - 11:02
      +7

      I threw the numbers at the Blockinator AI to get some idea of some of the models they are talking about:-

      86036306 Xiaomi 23108RN04Y - Redmi 13C 4G NFC - amta=OK
      86250706 Xiaomi 23108RN04Y - Redmi 13C - amta=OK
      86603807 Xiaomi 23108RN04Y - Redmi 13C 4G NFC - amta=OK
      86867307 Xiaomi 23108RN04Y - Redmi 13C - amta=OK
      86745706 Xiaomi 23053RN02Y - Redmi 12 - amta=OK
      86271706 Xiaomi 23053RN02Y - Redmi 12 - amta=OK
      86436806 Xiaomi 23053RN02Y - Redmi 12 - amta=OK
      86749306 Xiaomi 23053RN02Y - Redmi 12 - amta=OK
      86074406 Xiaomi 23053RN02Y - Redmi 12 - amta=OK
      86753406 Xiaomi 23053RN02Y - Redmi 12 - amta=OK
      86516707 Xiaomi 23053RN02Y - Redmi 12 - amta=OK
      86782606 - POCO F6 Pro - amta=CHECK
      86094906 Xiaomi 2312DRA50G - Redmi Note 13 Pro - amta=OK
      86111406 Xiaomi 2312DRA50G - Redmi Note 13 Pro - amta=OK
      86467407 Xiaomi 2312DRA50G - Redmi Note 13 Pro - amta=OK
      86237707 - Redmi Note 13 Pro - amta=CHECK
      86159307 - POCO F6 - amta=CHECK
      86459506 Xiaomi 23090RA98G - Redmi Note 13 Pro Plus - amta=OK
      86845106 Xiaomi 23090RA98G - Redmi Note 13 Pro Plus - amta=OK
      86874107 Xiaomi 23090RA98G - Redmi Note 13 Pro+ - amta=OK
      86152007 - Redmi Note 13 Pro Plus - amta=CHECK
      86221006 Xiaomi 2312DRAABG - Redmi Note 13 5G - amta=OK
      86869907 Xiaomi 2312DRAABG - Redmi Note 13 - amta=OK
      86069807 Xiaomi 2312DRAABG - Redmi Note 13 5G - amta=OK
      86015307 - Redmi 13 - amta=CHECK

      • ninohax on 01/11/2024 - 12:14

        Thanks for this mate bloody useful

      • masterqur on 02/11/2024 - 01:26

        Hi, could you check the first 8 digit IMEI of any phone? Other than phones that you have.

        • Costanza on 02/11/2024 - 10:10
          +1

          Yes. Here is list from those TACs with more data followed by a list of random Xiaomi models for those interested (Blockinator AI takes no responsibility for errors or homicides as humans provided some data):-

          86036306 Redmi 13C 4G NFC - Xiaomi 23108RN04Y (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86250706 Redmi 13C - Xiaomi 23108RN04Y (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86796407 Redmi 13C - Xiaomi 23108RN04Y (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86603807 Redmi 13C - Xiaomi 23108RN04Y (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86867307 Redmi 13C - Xiaomi 23108RN04Y (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86745706 Redmi 12 - Xiaomi 23053RN02Y (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86271706 Redmi 12 - Xiaomi 23053RN02Y (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86436806 Redmi 12 - Xiaomi 23053RN02Y (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86749306 Redmi 12 - Xiaomi 23053RN02Y (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86074406 Redmi 12 - Xiaomi 23053RN02Y (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86753406 Redmi 12 - Xiaomi 23053RN02Y (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86516707 Redmi 12 - Xiaomi 23053RN02Y (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86021607 Redmi 12 - Xiaomi 23053RN02Y (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86782606 POCO F6 Pro - Xiaomi 23113RKC6G (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86462506 POCO F6 Pro - Xiaomi 23113RKC6G (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86094906 Redmi Note 13 Pro - Xiaomi 2312DRA50G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86111406 Redmi Note 13 Pro - Xiaomi 2312DRA50G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86467407 Redmi Note 13 Pro - Xiaomi 2312DRA50G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86237707 Redmi Note 13 Pro - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86938007 Redmi Note 13 Pro - Xiaomi 2312DRA50G (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86159307 POCO F6 - Xiaomi 24069PC21G (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86631607 POCO F6 - Xiaomi 24069PC21G (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86331807 POCO F6 - Xiaomi 24069PC21G (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86459506 Redmi Note 13 Pro+ - Xiaomi 23090RA98G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86845106 Redmi Note 13 Pro+ - Xiaomi 23090RA98G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86874107 Redmi Note 13 Pro+ - Xiaomi 23090RA98G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86152007 Redmi Note 13 Pro+ - Xiaomi 23090RA98G (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86730207 Redmi Note 13 Pro+ - Xiaomi 23090RA98G (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86208607 Redmi Note 13 Pro+ - Xiaomi 23090RA98G (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86440507 Redmi Note 13 Pro+ - Xiaomi 23090RA98G (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86441107 Redmi Note 13 Pro+ - Xiaomi 23090RA98G (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86221006 Redmi Note 13 5G - Xiaomi 2312DRAABG (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86869907 Redmi Note 13 - Xiaomi 2312DRAABG (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86069807 Redmi Note 13 5G - Xiaomi 2312DRAABG (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86506307 Redmi Note 13 5G - Xiaomi 2312DRAABG (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86415107 Redmi Note 13 5G - Xiaomi 2312DRAABG (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86768007 Redmi Note 13 5G - Xiaomi 2312DRAABG (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86015307 Redmi 13 - Xiaomi 24040RN64Y (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86316807 Redmi 13 4G NFC - Xiaomi 24040RN64Y (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86217207 Redmi 13 4G NFC - Xiaomi 24040RN64Y (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86808207 Redmi 13 4G NFC - Xiaomi 24040RN64Y (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86833307 Redmi 13 4G NFC - Xiaomi 24040RN64Y (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86709807 Redmi 13 4G NFC - Xiaomi 24040RN64Y (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86847707 Redmi 13 4G NFC - Xiaomi 24040RN64Y (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86462907 Redmi 13 4G NFC - Xiaomi 24040RN64Y (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86586507 Redmi 13 4G NFC - Xiaomi 24040RN64Y (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86624907 Redmi 13 4G NFC - Xiaomi 24040RN64Y (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)

          Following are just a random collection:-

          86406404 Poco F2 Pro M2004J11G - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86917205 Poco F3 - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86759205 Poco M3 Pro 5g - Xiaomi M2103K19PG (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86395705 Poco X3 GT 21061110AG - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86144005 Poco X3 NFC - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86923605 Poco X3 NFC - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86605106 POCO X5 5G - Xiaomi 22111317PG (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86916806 POCO X5 Pro 5G - Xiaomi 22101320G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86783706 POCO X6 5G - Xiaomi 23122PCD1G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86347806 POCO X6 Pro 5G - Xiaomi 2311DRK48G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86750407 Redmi A3 - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86740604 Redmi 9 - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86731104 Redmi Note 7 Pro - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86727304 Redmi Note 8T - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86787005 Redmi Note 9 - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86865605 Redmi Note 9 Pro - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          35530479 Redmi Note 12 Pro - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86094906 Redmi Note 13 Pro - Xiaomi 2312DRA50G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86640005 Redmi 10 - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86412206 Redmi 12 - Xiaomi 23053RN02A (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86745706 Redmi 12 - Xiaomi 23053RN02Y (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86058906 Redmi 13 - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86719807 Redmi 13C - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86191407 Redmi 13C - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86148905 Redmi Note 10 Pro - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86360005 Redmi Note 10 Pro M2101K6R - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86071006 Redmi Note 10 Pro M2101K6G - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86926406 Redmi Note 11 - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86679706 Redmi Note 11 Pro - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86784606 Redmi Note 12 - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86401006 Redmi Note 12 5G - Xiaomi 22111317G (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86575306 Redmi Note 12 4g 23027RAD4I - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86664606 Redmi Note 12 Pro 22101316G - Xiaomi 22101316G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86997206 Redmi Note 13 - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86094906 Redmi Note 13 Pro - Xiaomi 2312DRA50G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86845106 Redmi Note 13 Pro+ - Xiaomi 23090RA98G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86843905 Xiaomi Blackshark 4 PRS-H0 - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86843905 Xiaomi Blackshark 4 - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86198706 Xiaomi Blackshark 4 Pro - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86764806 Xiaomi Blackshark 5 - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86542706 Xiaomi Blackshark 5 Pro - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86572605 Xiaomi 11T - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86454005 Xiaomi 11T - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86329005 Xiaomi 11T Pro - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86058805 Xiaomi 11 lite 5G NE - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86058906 Xiaomi 13 - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86933506 Xiaomi 13 Ultra - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86158506 Xiaomi 13T Pro - Xiaomi 23078PND5G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86148206 Xiaomi 14 - Xiaomi 23127PN0CG (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86749806 Xiaomi 14 Ultra - Xiaomi 24030PN60G (amta=OK)(telstra=OK)
          86901807 Xiaomi 14T Pro - Xiaomi 2407FPN8EG (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86138304 Xiaomi Mi 9T - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86021104 Xiaomi Mi 10 5g - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86402505 Xiaomi Mi 10T - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86710505 Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86828505 Xiaomi Mi 11 - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86177505 Xiaomi Mi 11 Lite - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)
          86918305 Xiaomi Mi 11 Lite 5g - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=BLOCK)
          86786905 Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra - (amta=CHECK)(telstra=OK)

          • KaitoKid1412 on 02/11/2024 - 11:34

            @Costanza: From what I gather, Telstra is a more detailed version of AMTA check?

            There's no cases of AMTA=block, and Telstra=OK?

            • Costanza on 02/11/2024 - 12:33

              @KaitoKid1412: AFAIK amta OK was supposed to mean good on all networks, CHECK if anyone has a block but there would be delays between updates etc. Best to check your actual TAC with the Telco your moving to.

              • KaitoKid1412 on 02/11/2024 - 15:16

                @Costanza: I see, does Optus have a check website, or need to talk to them? I haven't been blocked (yet?). I made a mistake of swapping away from Telstra even though I passed Telstra check as I thought Telstra was the fussy one.

                Now I think I'll just wait to see how Optus goes

    • snirodha on 09/11/2024 - 20:30

      Just a heads up. I end up finding a Xiaomi Redmi note 13 pro with one the above TAC numbers and wanted to confirm with vodafone that it is whitelisted. To my surprise Vodafone is now saying device is not compatible. So i think best to avoid Xiaomi at least for now.

    • xrailgun on 10/11/2024 - 20:52

      for some reason, this page/blog post has been removed

  • cornucopia on 01/11/2024 - 10:31
    +14

    Sent the following to Channel Nine.

    Good morning.

    An increasing number of people are wondering why the total stuff up of the 3G transition rhat has rendered tens of if not hundreds of thousands of Australian mobile phones unusable has been TOTALLY INVISIBLE IN THE MASS MEDIA !!

    People are being asked to shell out a large amount of money to buy a new phone because of some arcane technical issue involving 000 emergency calls that could have been solved in advance if the manufacturers had been warned of what was going to happen.. but no the government changed the rules by legislation at the 11th hour and stuffed everyone up.

    Deserves a run on A Current Affair at the VERY LEAST!

    Cheers

    Dennis Leman
    Gold Coast

    • Loot N Plunder on 01/11/2024 - 11:48
      +1

      TOTALLY INVISIBLE IN THE MASS MEDIA

      The media are just a soapbox for sponsors They all died years ago haven't you worked that out yet

      You just have to look at the recent harvey norman court case, 20 million dollar theft from customers just swept under the carpet.
      Australian media is a joke

    • ninohax on 01/11/2024 - 12:16
      +1

      bloody legend thanks for doing that mate. This has motivated me to send through an email to the media. Now coming to think of it might as well send an email to the minister as well.

    • jl434 on 01/11/2024 - 18:03
      +1

      Thanks mate

    • Butt Scratcher on 02/11/2024 - 14:19
      +1

      I'm not too surprised, the telco's are some of the largest Ad spenders in Australia.

      As someone else had mentioned, there is evidence that some media are hesitant to be critical of the large ad spenders (harvey norman)

  • RiseAndRuin on 01/11/2024 - 10:35
    +2

    (Not so) fun fact: as of this morning, both my phones are blocked (Xiaomi Redmi note 5 and Poco M4 Pro 5G, which passes the Telstra IMEI check) although both are able to call 000 on 4G/Volte, with or without a sim.

      • RiseAndRuin on 01/11/2024 - 10:44

        Thanks, I read the comment, but who knows how long that will take… I had ordered a new phone but I cancelled the order earlier today as I can't be sure it would work. Let's see how this dumpster fire goes…

        • djoz on 01/11/2024 - 12:40

          Hey mate, I have got Xiaomi Redmi note 5 as well and got blocked today.
          Is your TAC 868622 (first six digits of IMEI Number)?

          • RiseAndRuin on 01/11/2024 - 14:46

            @djoz: Mine is 869794, FWIW I emailed Xiaomi but they said "For legacy models and other non-AU models, we are still discussing with HQ for a plan.", where legacy is anything before Dec '23.

            • vawiyoci on 01/11/2024 - 16:50

              @RiseAndRuin:

              legacy is anything before Dec '23

              mattdamonrapidlyaging.gif

    • jtc13 on 01/11/2024 - 10:49
      +5

      I have two blocked devices now and the only thing you can do with them is call 000. So they have blocked them cause you cant call 000 right government and telco defenders in this thread?

      • avtek on 01/11/2024 - 10:51
        +1

        !!!!!!! well said

        • jtc13 on 01/11/2024 - 11:22
          +3

          Yes i agree a good thing 000 can still be called… I just don't agree that blocking of phones helps in any way. Still better to have phones that can work but cant call 000 than phones that don't work at all IMO.

            • RiseAndRuin on 01/11/2024 - 11:49
              +3

              @xwx: I have to strongly disagree. The Telcos are supposed to do their due diligence and find out if devices are able to call 000 on 4G/volte before blocking them, instead they're more than happy to force users to buy new phones from them to make sure they work.

                • RiseAndRuin on 01/11/2024 - 12:00
                  +5

                  @xwx: Telcos could have easily pushed back and told the Minister they needed more time, as they do when it benefits them, instead they took the opportunity to make money. Let's stop defending this disgraceful behaviour please.

              • ninohax on 01/11/2024 - 12:19
                +2

                @RiseAndRuin: This. They are to actually check if each device is capable of dialing 000 on 4G VOLTE rather than blanket banning every phone that they are not sure will work or not.

    • djoz on 01/11/2024 - 12:41

      How do you know Xiaomi Redmi note 5 is able to call 000 over VoLTE?

      • RiseAndRuin on 01/11/2024 - 13:04
        +1

        I uploaded the link to the screenshots in a previous comment, I had to call 000 on my neighbours many times going back to mid 2023, all calls are shown on 4G/volte.

        • djoz on 01/11/2024 - 14:46

          Would that be because the Optus network was actually available for you?
          The consideration is that if Optus and Vodafone are not available and you need to make a call to 000, you would not be able to do so via Telstra VoLTE, which is why we are impacted.

          My Redmi Note 5 got blocked today morning too.

          • RiseAndRuin on 01/11/2024 - 14:49

            @djoz: It's too messy to tell for now, but my M4 Pro also got blocked on all networks, although it passes the Telstra IMEI check. If you disable the automatic network selection for your sim, you should be able to see what networks are available to you and depending on your phone, where you've been blocked.

            • KaitoKid1412 on 01/11/2024 - 17:06

              @RiseAndRuin: Have you tried a Telstra Sim in it? Would it work given it passed the Telstra check?

              • RiseAndRuin on 01/11/2024 - 17:40

                @KaitoKid1412: No, I gave up and ordered a Moto g04 for now, as I can't afford to waste any more time right now.

    • ozperson on 01/11/2024 - 18:45

      Dang… there goes my plan B to move to Telstra

      • KaitoKid1412 on 02/11/2024 - 11:27

        Moving to Telstra may work, the person you are replying to did not try their phone on Telstra network. They passed the Telstra check.

        There's every possibility it will work on Telstra (or maybe it doesn't). I've yet to see evidence of the outcome of this case

        • ozperson on 03/11/2024 - 12:55

          It stopped working on my yesterday.

          My Poco F3 IMEI is safe according to Telstra check and was still working up until yesterday then lost signal :(

  • Namidairo on 01/11/2024 - 12:41
    +3

    Parsed devices with non-expired EMV certifications (This is one of the requirements for Google Wallet to work) and that had their certification document with production sample TAC listed.

    Telstra says: Not Okay

    Sony Corporation XQ-EC54 35965166
    Honor Device Co.,Ltd. HONOR 90 Smart 86798407
    Sony Corporation XQ-ES54 35819272
    CROSSCALL Stellar-X5 35259666
    Sony Corporation XQ-DE54 35947377
    Sony Corporation XQ-DC54 35909579
    Sony Corporation XQ-DQ54 35004648
    Xiaomi Communications Co., Ltd. Redmi Note 12 Pro 86741406
    Xiaomi Communications Co., Ltd. Redmi Note 12 Pro 86224406
    Xiaomi Communications Co., Ltd. Redmi Note 12 86914606
    Xiaomi Communications Co., Ltd. Redmi Note 12 5G 86401006
    Xiaomi Communications Co., Ltd. POCO X5 5G 86605106
    Xiaomi Communications Co., Ltd. Redmi 10C 86239006
    Xiaomi Communications Co., Ltd. Redmi Note 10T 86942206
    Xiaomi Communications Co., Ltd. Redmi Note 11 86415405
    Sony Corporation XQ-CC54 35175147
    Sony Corporation XQ-CQ54 35777435
    Sony Corporation XQ-CT72 35951038
    Blackshark Technologies (Nanchang) Co Ltd Black Shark 5 86764806
    Blackshark Technologies (Nanchang) Co Ltd Black Shark 4 Pro 86198706
    Blackshark Technologies (Nanchang) Co Ltd Black Shark 5 Pro 86278505

    These should all be blocked on Telstra, as far as I can tell. The blocked Sony list is in reality much larger, since someone pointed me towards their update server with the list of currently supported products and their TAC. (Note that Sony pulled out of most markets, including Australia, many years ago. So any of their new stuff is grey imports here.)

    For some reason the POCO X5 5G Pro comes up as fine, as does both of the sample Poco X6 samples. Among other models.

    Telstra says: I dunno probably works

    <snipped>
    Moved into a gist because thread size.
    https://gist.github.com/namidairo/029d81204a9f7776b02ae708ac…

    The site may be out of date, so this list may be subject to change as they get around to testing or confirming with manufacturers as to how broken their roms are…

    • Iggemo on 01/11/2024 - 14:15
      +1

      And yet several have reported their Redmi Note 13 / Pro no longer working !

  • Tiredman on 01/11/2024 - 13:05

    Xiaomi 11 Pro 5G still working on Amaysim.

  • mrhugo on 01/11/2024 - 15:18
    +1

    Redmi Note 7 Pro (CN) with No B28, driving around, no service, and then service appears. Seems the cell towers maybe hold a block list. Been very patchy for the last 3-4 hours.

    Catch Mobile with active VoLTE (but prob no E000 4G, never tried)

  • dandrew on 01/11/2024 - 16:06

    Just want to share with you all
    https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/525939/116985/screensh…

  • ninohax on 01/11/2024 - 16:28
    +4

    I just got in touch with Xiaomi Australia and requested them to liaise with the telecom operators to add my device TAC (Poco F4 5G) to the whitelist. This is what they came back with:

    Hi xxx,
    please refer to our blog for updates:
    https://xiaomitech.com.au/blogs/news/notice-on-3g-shutdown-a…

    for your model, unfortunately it won't be able to get whitelist at the stage.
    we are working with HQ for a plan on legacy models and other non-AU models.

    So now we can be sure that Xiaomi HQ is aware of this and hopefully will help us out sooner rather than later.

    • vawiyoci on 01/11/2024 - 16:52

      for your model, unfortunately it won't be able to get whitelist at the stage.

      Well I mean is there somewhere in the technical specifications where it formally states it can do 4G VOLTE E000? Otherwise they can't exactly legally push the telcos to whitelist it.

      • ninohax on 01/11/2024 - 19:35
        +1

        Agree but the government can definitely push the Telco's to follow the directive in the legislation which states the telecom providers have to check each device and only if they find it to be not able to dial 000 on 4G VOLTE are they supposed to block it. But telcos are not doing that, doing a blanket ban with no standardization with each telco doing whatever suits them best and worse not telling the public the basis on which they are blacklisting the phones.

    • GOTBLZ on 01/11/2024 - 19:59
      +1

      Really as my Xiaomi Mi 10T pro is blocked by Optus and failed the AMTA check..

      • dandrew on 01/11/2024 - 21:43

        My Mi 10 is blocked by Optus and Vodafone

        • KaitoKid1412 on 02/11/2024 - 11:25

          What is the outcome trying with Telstra?

  • snirodha on 01/11/2024 - 22:33
    +3

    Xiaomi Australia confirmed if you buy a phone from ali with a white listed TAC it will work in Australia.

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