God, Ubank are snakes (missed email about the increase from $200 to $500)

I missed the email earlier last year where Ubank changed the rules on earning bonus interest from $200 to $500 - you have to deposit in excess of that balance to qualify for interest. You effectively get zero interest if you don't see these rule changes in time. This was effective from 1 July 2024, apparently. So seven months. Zero interest on a $170k odd balance. I had continued to deposit $250 a month thinking everything was okay.

Lost about $6K in interest. What absolute shysters.

Yes, I should have been looking at it more closely. I was busy with kids, work, etc. Didnt see the email.

Must be at least hundreds of people in the same boat. Ubank must be absolutely minting it off tactics like this.

Lost about 2K when they changed their BSB and payments sent to the old BSB didnt qualify.

Pretty depressing really. No one can afford a house anymore and you have to deal with coin clipping antics like this from supposedly reputable financial institutions.

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  • sob story for someone who has 170k in their secondary bank lol

    go use a term deposit if you're too busy

    • Dont have a house. Im 46. Its all I have in the whole fricking world.

      • Well, perhaps you should look after it better.

        • Oof

        • Thanks for that Bruce mate. All the best.

          • @cannedhams: Hey man, sorry about your situation. But in your opinion what could they have done better? From my perspective, an email seems decent enough of a heads up. They could have sent more but you have a responsibility to read your emails, right?

            On another note, power to you for saving up that much.

            • @shreav: Probably an email following up a missed month titled IMPORTANT You have missed interest last month, thank you.

              • @foxmulder: If you were borrowing someone else's money would you send them a reminder to do something that would cost you money?

              • @foxmulder: In App if you access your savings account there is a big info graphic saying that you need to make a transfer and the value or that your bonus interest is activated.
                It's right there at the top can't miss it.

            • @shreav: They could make it transparent by putting a banner at the top of the page with the new deposit amount to notify customers.

              Banks are snakes.

            • @RTX9090Ti: Ponzi schemes are great for early adopters as long as they get out in time.

            • @RTX9090Ti: Imagine being able to buy a whole bitcoin in 2025 and not actually going through with it… eeeek talk about a missed opportunity.

      • If it’s all you have in the whole world then you’d better keep a monthly eye on it. Wondering why there’s no interest being paid. Month after month.
        You have kids? Yes, many of us do, but we also keep an eye on our finances. Regularly.
        You screwed up by not paying attention

        • Yep, I only missed 1 month of no interest. Then I investigated and set things right.

      • Unless you are planning on buying a house, personally I'd do something more useful (eg. consider adding to super and/or purchase ETFs) with your money than leaving it in the bank earning barely above inflation.

      • No, you don't, you have kids, they surely mean more to you than your $170k, so its not all you have.

      • Sounds almost like you don't keep track of your finances…

        • H-hm
          That's the job of Ozbargain. Reverse engineered financial guardianship

      • Use it to buy a house.

      • No Superannuation?

      • Your 170,000 better off than lots of people…

        and why are they snakes?

        • Some people spend money on instant gratification like me, others save for retirement. Respect his choice is my view.

          OP is calling them snakes probably due to their repeated failure to comply to the banking code of practice. :)

          (banking royal commission wasn't enough for NAB it seems) Ubank is a sub-brand of NAB.)

          anyway to the OP just raise a case with ombudsman and if they are at fault it will be sorted out.

    • $170k isn't that much money, hardly a brag.

      • Agree, that's why OP was whinging as he lost $6k interest income on 'all he has' in the world.

        • On the positive side, the OP didn't have to pay tax on the 6K.

      • can't even buy a car like Bentley :(

        — typing from a second hand i30 2014

    • Sounds like it was an inheritance

      • Yeah sure why not.

    • And OP blames everyone else except themself for thier own miskakes.
      And is foolish enough to let everyone know here on OB. LOL LOL LOL LOL

      It seems everyone else got the note and took the appropraite action.
      I certainly did.
      Its also posted on their website for all to see the new condition so its no secret at all.
      and there was a press release as well.

      Surely OP should be checking thier account at lease once a month and therfore should have noticed they were no longer getting any interest.
      And surely OP has the uBank app on thier phone so its just a tap on the uBank icon…yes?

      But OP missed another very important point.
      That with this increase to $500 minimum monthly deposit also came an increase in interest from 5.0% to 5.5% on deposits up to $100,000 and then 5.0% on the balance from $100,001 to $250,000
      So OPs loss is actually a lot more!!!

      So cheers to uBank for making this POSITIVE change and telling everyone.

      So OP didnt read the email OR check the uBank web site for interest rate changes/conditions OR check the app on thier phone OR see the press release OR check any savings account comparison websites for a better deal.

      PS. I hope uBank takes legal action against OP for Defamation

      • This is society these days. Everything is someone else’s fault.

  • So why is it ubank's a snake if it's your fault?

    Why are people always trying to blame others and not accept fault of their own?

    • Admittedly this exact condition is designed to catch out people on monthly direct debits.

      It's a bit sh1t, same as when they brought down the interest rate to only apply to the first $100k. Everything over that was a reduction.

      Very scummy.

      Admittedly my money is sitting between rabobank and ubank so i don't go over the limits.

      • Another crock. Wow, banks are not very high on the trustworthy list but if you think they spend time to deliberately and maliciously come up with ways to screw customers then maybe a tin foil hat might be required.

      • @ Drakesy
        You appear to have no idea whats going on with ubank

        1. You can update a direct debit any time and it costs you nothing.
          And surely most people comply with this condition via a monthly direct debit and made the change to $500 (as I did)
        2. uBank actually INCREASED THE INTEREST RATE mate.
          From 5.0% to 5.5% up to $100K and still pay the same 5.0% on balances from $101K to $250K.
          So NO mate, NO REDUCTION THERE AT ALL
        3. Its obvious who are being scummy here and its not uBank
        4. I hope your money is in the Rabo Premium saver (paying 5.35%) and you are making that $200 deposit each month
          Because the interest on thier High Interest account drops back to 4.35% after 4 months.
          (yes I've also got my money across both so at least your got that part figured out correctly)

        I will let you dwell over this and try to figure it out (again)

      • They literally have a big banner on the app that says whether you've activated your bonus interest for the month or not. If you looked at the app once in the last 6 months you would have seen it.

        • Not only that, but if you'd checked the account for the interest every month, you would have noticed NO INTEREST that first month!!! If I had missing interest, you'd better believe that I would check out why I didn't get it.

      • How much flag waiving and attention grabbing do you need to keep tabs on your finances?

      • Really? It's supposed to be an incentive. Every bank has similar arrangements and they also change their Ts & Cs. I understand that you're upset but it's not necessary to dream up a conspiracy theory to cover you're own mistakes.

        • It's supposed to be an incentive.

          No it's marketed as an incentive but is designed to allow the bank to save paying you extra interest as doing so earns them more money

      • OP didnt…
        Read the email OR
        Check the uBank web site for interest rate changes/conditions OR
        Check the app on thier phone to see how much interest was paid in any month or what thier current balance is OR
        See the press release OR
        check any of the many savings account comparison websites for a better deal.

        Mate your got your head buried deep down in the sand, is all I've got to say.
        Fool be you in more ways than one

      • Dear OP
        Let me suggest you move some of your hard earnt cash into the Macquarie Savings account
        Its specially designed for people like you!

        It pays 5% interest on balances up to $1M with absolutely NO CONDITIONS!
        So you dont have to remember to make any deposits at all

        And you can use it as your main internet banking account to pay bills and transfer money without any penalties.

        Furthermore if you need debit card access, Macquarie's Transaction account, which pays 2.75% interest, gives you daily access to your "spending" money with thier PREMIUM Debit Mastercard.
        This debit card has no overseas transaction fees and comes with some nice insurances as well
        And you can use it to pay for purchases via your digital phone wallet
        NOTE: Most transaction accounts pay NIL or NEAR ZERO interest including uBank.

      • I mean, I also got caught out the first month but only because I thought they had changed it to 250 and not 500. I was pretty miffed but shit happens and that's life. Can't really blame ubank.

  • Just accept your mistake instead of blaming others please.

      • You missed out. Should have posted yesterday when everyone was siding with the poor sod who blames everyone else for their problems.

      • Just give it up
        Nobody is on your side

      • Probably this is the reason you couldn’t earn interest. Missing out things.

        More so, how on earth someone could miss the interest earning check for 6 continuous months?

        Hindsight, I will be mad as you are. No matter what. Hope you ok.

  • What do you realistically want them to do that they haven't already? They sent an email (you missed/ignored/didn't pay attention to), and the app itself tells you on the page for the account in question if you have no hit your minimum deposit.

    • Thats not all….
      OP didnt Read the email. Thats correct.
      NOR
      Check the uBank web site for interest rate changes/conditions
      NOR
      Check the app on thier phone to see if they qualified for bonus interest, nor check how much interest was paid in any month nor what thier current balance is
      NOR
      See the press release
      NOR
      check any of the many savings account comparison websites for a better deal.

      So OP has got thier head buried deep down in the sand, is all I've got to say.

      • Yeah, they should have emailed you, sent you a text, given you a phone call, sent out some snail mail, posted a banner on their home page, added a note on your account details page too. How about take some responsibility? Why don't you read emails from your bank?

        • Doesnt the bank have info of where you work? They should of called his manager

          • @niggardly: His manager probably would have emailed OP and then it would just be another missed opportunity.

        • Don't be ridiculous.

          They should have taken out a 30s advertisement slot during the Cricket specifically tailored to CannedHams

          • @cannedhams:

            Yep, they could have done one or more of those exact things … Isn't it interesting that they did none of those things?

            They did one of those things. They e-mailed you! You chose not to action it.

      • I get it, it sucks to miss out on $2k you were expecting, but it's not going to make or break your ability to buy a place, and you need to put your energy toward something productive.

        • Mate, I'm not going to go and neck myself over 6K if thats what you're saying. As you said, it sucks. Maybe this prompts some other people to check their balances and avert a similar mistake. I'll get up tomorrow and put my pants on like I would normally.

          • @cannedhams: So is it $200 (equals $2400/yr) or $6000 ($1000/mth)?
            Your numbers keep changing which suggests that you really don't have a handle on your finances.
            Do you not check transaction receipts against your bank records, considering assertion that they are out to screw you over?

          • @cannedhams: He’s not telling you to not neck yourself. Doing something productive is something different.

  • Think of the positives, you'll pay less tax this year

  • Ubank are snakes
    What absolute shysters.
    Ubank must be absolutely minting it off tactics like this.
    …and you have to deal with coin clipping antics like this…

    ?

    Yes, I should have been looking at it more closely. I was busy with kids, work, etc. Didnt see the email.

    60+ comments racked up on OzBargain since July 2024

    You know what you've done, accept it and move on

      • No worries cobber, keep those eyes peeled and ears close to the ground

        • Just joking mate, you don't think I'm going to take this to AFCA at the very least? They can spit up a rope.

          • @cannedhams: If you were as aggressive in monitoring your bank accounts as you are with dishing out responses in this thread, you would have no issue

            • @[Deactivated]: I've honestly done my best to be pleasant and good spirited in my interactions in this thread, notwithstanding that some of the responses to me have been direct, to say the least. If I've upset you, then I apologise; that certainly was not my intention.

              • @cannedhams: You've forgotten haven't you?

                cannedhams on 04/03/2014 - 10:32 - First Home Saver Account Abolished?
                I got one just to make risk free returns that I could then throw into super.
                Thanks to all the taxpayers out there for the $4000. I'm grateful for small favours.

                As foxmulder calculated below for you

                Ubank's interest for savings up to $100k is 5.5%, anything above this amount is 5% ~ half a year interest for $170k is $4,500.

                The $4K in taxpayer funded "risk free returns" you made 10 years ago, you've just returned that back to NAB as $4.5K in today's dollars so actually, you're still ahead

                Karma works in mysterious ways so live a life of integrity if you want to avoid more tales of woe in the future

                I wish you well

                • @[Deactivated]: I'll be honest with you mate, I had absolutely and totally forgotten that because it was ten years ago. I didn't realise it had left such an impact on you. Frankly, I'm amazed. Truly. You had honestly been holding it against me all this time?

                  I can only hope that, notwithstanding the bitter sting of sorrow that a random internet user's jocular comment that wasn't personally directed at you from ten years ago, that you have been able to live a fulfilling life in the meantime. I would despair for the fate of humanity if it were otherwise.

                  And yeah, I trousered $4K from the first home saver account. Perfectly legal and no different from the tradies claiming concessions on their 150K Ford Rangers. I've certainly paid plenty of tax in the meantime.

  • Why didn't you check your bank account? I check each of my HI accounts each month to ensure expected interest is being paid.

      • No one is so time poor that they can't find two mins in a 30 day period to quickly log in and scan their savings account. No one.

        If you're that time poor, setting up a simple calendar reminder is all you needed to do.

      • You don't check your bank balance for 6 months?

          • @cannedhams: Less than the amount that would stop someone checking their account for half a year.

      • You should be checking all of your accounts at least monthly, bank and credit. What if someone had gained access to your account and drained it? Do you check for fraudulent charges on your CCs? It literally takes a few minutes per month. Do it while you on the loo if you have to.

      • So time poor, can't find 5-minutes to check bank accounts, but can find plenty of time to answer forum comments. 🤔

        PS: My wife and I both worked full time whilst raising 3-kids,so I call bullshit on your 'time poor', you are simply lazy.

      • Time spent on ozbargain says no

      • You don't have a spare 30 seconds?

  • Next time, read your emails.

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        • I'm thinking I need to do a video mash up of the Simpsons' snake whacking day episode, but with the snakes having the Ubank logo on them

          This could be my viral moment. I will go down in history as the "ubank snakes guy"

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  • Lol what a sook

    • You're here to sook about my sooking

      That makes you a sook-sook

      Or in your case, a sook-sook-chook

  • UBank makes 80% of their profit from 20% of their laziest customers

    • Which again, means that their primary incentive is to try and take advantage of people.

      "Look at all the money we made from burying that change in a 36-page email! We should make it 50 pages next year!"

      • The primary incentive for EVERY bank is to take advantage of people. Build a bridge.

        • Which is why we have responsible lending practices, to stop banks from fleecing their borrowers. Maybe we need similar laws to stop banks from fleecing their depositors.

          • @cannedhams: You weren't fleeced - you simply didn't adhere to the T&C's.

            • You were notified about the change
            • You didn't increase the deposit amount as needed
            • You didn't look at your savings account for 7 months
            • And now, you have to accept responsibility that you stuffed up
          • @cannedhams: And if we did, they would be compliant.

            They sent you an email - You didn't read it
            They placed in prominently on their website - You didn't log in

            You want an SMS, but would probably have ignored it as Spam.
            If they hired a plane and wrote it in the sky, you would argue that you didn't look up that particular day.

            You mentioned that you have kids, so how about you take some responsibility for being an adult/parent and stop blaming everyone else for your laziness?

      • Dear OP

        Check out the (not 1 but) 4 conditions that must be met each month to earn Bonus interest on the ING Maximizer.
        And its ZERO interest on balances over $100K
        Then come back here and apologize

        For your convenience

        Firstly you need an Orange Everyday bank account but lets call than No.4

        ING's highest variable rate

        For customers who also have an Orange Everyday bank account and do these things each month:
        1. Deposit at least $1,000 from an external source to any personal ING account in their name
        2. Make 5 or more settled (not pending) eligible ING card purchases
        3. Grow their nominated Savings Maximiser balance (excluding interest earned for the current month).
        When the criteria is met in a calendar month, the benefits and additional variable rate will apply in the next calendar month. Available on one account for balances up to $100,000.

  • Ubank's interest for savings up to $100k is 5.5%, anything above this amount is 5% ~ half a year interest for $170k is $4,500. Don't miss out January!

    There were 3 emails from Ubank from May to July informing me about the $500 payment requirement.

    • That is a good logical post with sound advice. The problem is the OP just put this up to rant. He isn’t really interested in what the real issue is or improving his position going forward. He wants to throw good money after bad to teach UBank a lesson. Frankly UBank won’t notice him going.

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