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ResMed AirSense 11 AutoSet Device 4G with choice of mask, EOFY SALE + Code brings down to $1479.60 (final price will vary with mask model selected)
Resmed AirSense 11 Autoset Device 4G With Mask from $1479.60 Delivered @ CPAP Direct
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I think it might be the lowest ive seen. Great find OP.
I see your a paid member of sleep HQ, I wonder if uncle Nicko is going to appreciate you posting that here ?
Doesn't he gets a commision everytime the code is used? Why would he mind?
That’s a great price! Take this offer to any ResMed store — they’ll usually match it, and you can pick up the machine in person without waiting for postage. 😊
I see a lot of these devices have a cellular modem, why not wifi? I mean, I get that this doesn't require user configuration and makes life easier when travelling, but when the alternative is an SD card that you have to take to your specialist appointment, doesn't wireless make more sense?
Because then they have to dedicate a customer support team to dealing with WiFi issues across a litany of different configurations. "Why doesn't mine connect", "why is mine slow" etc. This way they put a cellular modem in it, point it towards their servers and let it go, no possibility of the user managing to screw it up.
Agreed - the 4G in it is 99.99% useless. Only benefit is your device can be configured remotely at a Resmed store which is a moot point considering you can do it all yourself.
Why? As you said the modem works with zero config from the user. There's no drawbacks other than the cost to Resmed to have to pay for that service and having regional devices. (you don't provide your own sim card, it's baked in).
You'd be taking a sim card regardless of whether they use 4G or WiFi.
4g will eventually be retired so it willl become obsolete
Probably well before the product is damaged or chucked out.
@Tleyx: 4g is expected to last for 10+ years before it's even thought to be turned off. How long to you think the CPAP machine will last?
No because resmed offered a free upgrade to customers who had a 3g airsense 10.
I bought my CPAP only a few years ago, the previous AirSense model (i.e. the expensive one) and it has 3G in it which is now completely useless. The machine still works fine but previously I was able to see my night's sleep stats as it updated over 3G. I could see if my mask was leaking/loose, the amount of events I had, etc. Now I just go "well I'm tired today, I guess the mask might be loose". Annoying.
@Flamo: Oscar software is far superior to that silly upload and summary. I unplugged the modem, it's of no use and just gives your data to resmed with little benefit to you.
The SD card has much more detail than the wifi/app combo.
Data my friend
Code works on Resmed AirSense 11 Autoset Device 4G too. $1,075.50.
Apart from being an older version, is Resmed AirSense 10 Autoset Device 4G good enough or latest version better?
I didn't see any real benefit to paying the extra for the 11.
A lot of users prefer the 10. Price wise, there's really no reason to justify paying so much extra for 11. The main differences are: touchscreen vs knob; colour and tank design; and angle of hose fitting out the back. I have an 11 as that's what I'd trialled and others in my house have 10. I like the look of the 11 better and personally prefer the touchscreen.
That price of $1075.50 is for the 10, NOT the 11
Yup, sorry copy/paste error.
Speaking from experience. The Resmed AirSense 10 is a very highly regarded machine with very few reported faults. It's extremely quiet and robust and parts for it such as replacement water tanks and climateline hoses are readily available in Australia - often at considerable discount to RRP. The fact that it's been the staple of Resmed's CPAP machine line up for over 7 years now means that it's possible to get a wide range of accessories such as filters etc. at very cheap prices via Amazon and other platforms.
The only known problem I've seen (and experienced) with the AiSsense 10 is that the water tub can experience seal failures where the clear plastic section of the lower tank meets the metal base - apparently due to the glue failing after more than a year of heating and cooling cycles. The solution to this is easy - replace the water tub once a year (which is more than double the lifespan Resmed recommends anyway).
The AirSense 11 offers several advantages over the Airsense 10 - it is lighter, has smaller footprint and a more modern interface for changing settings and monitoring compliance. However, the smaller motor of the Airsense 11 (the same motor as is used in the incredibly small travel Resmed Airmini) brings its own set of problems imo. It is a noisier unit (Resmed use foam inside the machine for noise abatement - not sure about the longevity of that) and the incidence of early engine failures, while very small, is more prevalent that the Airsense10 - requiring warranty replacement by Resmed. And one downside that really annoys me is that while the climateline hose insert point in the AirSense 10 rotates, the insert point in the AirSense 11 is fixed - meaning you are stuck with that hose just coming out one way.
This is a great price for the AirSense 11 Autoset with a mask and is a good looking machine that is the industry leader. But even with this discount it's still around $300 more than the comparable AirSense 10 Autoset with 4g.
IMO, as an experienced CPAP user who is about to replace my CPAP machine that price difference is not justified given that the Airsense10 is such a proven solid performer. YMMV.
10 is much better as it can be modified into more expensive devices.
What is this?
It is CPAP machine for sleep apnoea.
Device to help people sleep well, mainly for someone suffering from Sleep Apnea, forces the air into lungs like when someone goes to surgery.
not quite. It splints the airway open using pressure, no air is forced into the lungs. That is a ventilation device.
Just brought the autoset 10 4g a while ago for 1250 with mask yes thats a good price but the 11 has a smaller tank a lot of people saying waking up during the night to refull water
I can last 2-3 nights on mine if I forget to empty and refill nightly like you're supposed to. With humidity set at 2 or 3 (had to turn down recently due to rainout) and mask with zero leaks.
Not sure where you're getting "a lot of people" from. I have the 11 and can get 2 nights straight from a single tank full. I can't possibly imagine getting up in the middle of the night to top up a tank of water.
Agreed - just got one of these a few months ago when found out I had sleep apnea. Tank lasts 2 nights without issue. Also got the tip to use this water: Moore's Ultra Pure Still Water 5L which is available at woolworths. Has no chemicals, salts or bacteria. Side note - if you are suddenly snoring alot or sleeping all night but waking up like you haven't slept at all - get a sleep test done!
funny to me that these niche medical devices always pop off on this site
Yes, funny that. Niche indeed.
OSA (obstructive sleep apnea) was reported in 37% of men and in 50% of women in studies from 2008 and 2013 respectively.
I wouldn't say these are 'niche.' Sleep Apnea and COPD are pretty damn common
I suspect I suffer from Sleep Apnea. Can someone pls ELI5 how I go about this ? GP -> Specialist -> Resmed Device ??
Can I just buy the device outright ?Many TIA.
You don't need a referral to buy one.
But generally the flow would be either GP to get a referral for a sleep study, or some sleep study places let you go direct to them to organise the referral and study. Sleep study is usually in your home and can be bulk billed if you meet certain criteria. Once done, they usually can give you an indication of whether or not one is needed and most places also allow for a trial period with a machine to determine what level of pressure is needed. After that, or if you don't have a trial, you can purchase the CPAP machine yourself.
Just my experience but I’d recommend an in-clinic study if your PHI covers it - at home you have to hook up the recording device yourself, wear it around before bed, it’s just a pain. At the clinic they do it all, monitor you, it would just be a whole lot easier.
The sleep study was covered by Medicare for me. Oh okay, the place I went through hooked it all up for me late in the evening and I went back the next morning and dropped it off. My doc mentioned that since covid, they mostly so at home studies now.
So how does one determine what level of pressure is required? Does the machine auto-detect it and adjust as required while you sleep or do you have test it and take results back to an expert for manual calibration?
The doctor recommends a pressure rating for you when he/she give you a referral for a trial. That is generally recommended on you should use. However, there is an Auto mode on the machine as well which adjusts as it sees fit. I use the auto mode as i found it more comfortable.
Two options.
1 - you self titrate (manually adjust yourself) - start with X pressure, try for a few days , analyse results using a program like OSCAR and adjust accordingly.
2 - you attend a sleep study - someone adjusts for you in real time and monitors your stats.
my private health insurance has an 80% cover (max $750) for the CPAP device, but I had to provide the referral.
I bought the machine myself as the clinic were charging crazy prices for it and to set it up.
I set it up myself which is probably not advisable for most as there's a health risk. I set my air pressure to high and my chest was bloated the next day. it was trial and error.80% is really good. Which health cover do you have?
@globalsoul: BUPA under my wife's work benefit.
If I remember correctly, she said it was $450 per month premium. yikes.
GP -> Sleep Testing -> Specialist -> Diagnosis -> Buy device if diagnosed with OSA
Talk to your GP about organising a sleep study. This may require a referral to a specialist first.
https://www.resmed.com.au/sleep-apnea/bulk-billed-sleep-stud…
I was in a similar boat, suspected I had sleep apnea. I was constantly tired come afternoon and was falling asleep at the dinner table/couch. My snoring was also terrible and I was gasping for air throughout the night a lot. I went straight to the local resmed store, and did a trial for a machine. I immediately noticed a huge improvement in my quality of life and was no longer feeling tired in the arvo. I ended up purchasing a machine straight after my trial ended. I'd recommend giving a trial a shot to see how your qol improves. Good luck!
I agree. The 1 month trails are around 120 and you get to try out the machine and see an improvement. In my case i didn't see a big difference, but as i had mild apnea to begin with. But for some, the difference with the machine is ngiht and day.
I was in the exact same boat 3 months ago. Suspected I had sleep apnea for a long time and finally did something about it.
I went and saw my GP first, but I suspect you could just skip step first and book directly with a sleep clinic.
Cost wise, for the sleep study, it would have been $400 or something from memory, but you have to fill out this "STOP/BANG" questionnaire thing, and I was basically told to get enough points to qualify for Medicare. Ended up being $100 out of pocket.
Get wired up and have a sleep study test done. Mine was an at home test, so you go in late afternoon and get wired up with a dozen probs and have a little device hanging from your shirt, drive home, and go about the rest of your evening and go to bed.My AHI came back at 103.5… severe obstructive sleep apnea.
Did a 4 week trial through the sleep clinic where I had the AirSense 11 Autoset at home, weekly appointments to adjust settings etc, was able to trial difference masks etc. over that time.
I could have purchased a machine etc through the sleep clinic, or go on a 3 year plan through ResMed, appointments etc would have been included if I went with either of those options, but I opted to purchase outright.
Unfortunately I missed this deal but still happy with the price of what I purchased about 2 weeks ago from CPAP Direct online. For ~$2080 I got:
ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset (extra standard tub was included)
ResMed AirSense 11 Side Cover
24 filters
ResMed P10 Nasal Pillow
F&P Solo Nasal Pillow Mask Fitpack
F&P Nova Micro Pillow Mask FitpackHope this information helps.
You’re going to get a lot of people telling you to go to a clinic, pay for a sleep test and go to a CPAP store. It’s all going to cost $$$$.
If you or your partner stop breathing at night, wake up tired, sleepy during the day, and/or snore a lot, just buy one online. Sleep studies will just tell you you need one, physical sleep shops have huge mark up (like, they wanted to charge me $3k, I got a BMC for about $1k with 3 masks). If you end up not needing one, you’ll be able to sell it anyway. Don’t waste time and money.
Can also just go to a pharmacist as most around me seem to offer sleep tests. They then arrange their test (was stick a sensor on your own head for me), then their doctor reviews the results and makes recommendations.
I then did a 1 month trial through the pharmacy.
Damn, I just purchased mine 2 weeks ago for $1700! Oh wells!
I just purchased last Friday for $1600 fml 🤦
My only consolation was getting $500 back from health fund for it.
which health fund are you using?
Does the Airsense 11 have a built in power supply or an external brick like the Airsense 10?
External power supply.
Airsense 11 has external brick
Anyone have thoughts on p10 mask? I have the p30i and it takes ages to dry the frame
I preferred the fit of the P30i to the P10 personally when I did mask trials. I ended up buying the Fisher and Paykel Nova Micro mask instead though and highly recommend it to anyone to try. It's very tiny and soft so I can sleep in positions closer to my pillow. Once I got used to mask and CPAP itself, I barely even notice it's on anymore.
As someone who has a Resmed 10, is upgrading worth it?
I opted for the S10 when looking at the choice late last year. S10 still has 5 years warranty + has the swivelly hose connection on the back and I may be wrong but I believe S11 has a smaller motor. In my mind, the smaller the motor is, the harder it has to work. I also found S11 touch navigation quite laggy. Kind of like how Tesla took away buttons, I much prefer having pushable knobs, especially if needing to turn it on & off with limited light/night time.
Yeah my S10 is still a workhorse, so probably I'll stick into it until it dies.
Cheers!
can existing S10/S11 users help me with a few questions
- older model (S9) write data out to SD card. with S10/S11, do you use the app to view those data?
- can you export it?
- I assume all your data is uploaded to ResMed even if you don't want ?
The data goes to Resmed, your CPAP supplier and the MyAir app if you have it installed. I don't know of any way to turn it off. The data shown on MyAir to the user is minimal and isn't overly useful in its own. It displays nightly time used, events per hr, overall mask seal/leaks and how many times you took it on and off. The raw data gets written to the SD card so if you want to export it somewhere else like the much more useful OSCAR or SleepHQ you need to put the SD card in your computer to read it etc.
Putting the device in airplane mode will stop it sending any data if you'd prefer it was SD card only.
Long time Resmed user here, the units work well enough but I’ve been tempted by units from BMC before - way cheaper and have decent reviews. Resmed units are so expensive for what they are (yes R&D costs etc etc) - essentially a blower, tank and the electronics. The whole industry feels cartel-like, yet we haven’t seen China really step in and undercut the Western players with a star product.
Once my second-hand 10 dies, I think I’ll make the switch. Also from the AirMini with its proprietary connector to the Transcend for a better travel experience.
Any links to BMC?
Here’s an example one on sale now: https://www.cpaponline.com.au/shop/product/bmc-luna-g3-apap-…
You can get full-on China domestic market AliExpress units for a few hundred (they’re no good apparently), so the tide is turning.
Thanks! $500 cheaper… hmm..
@congo: Yep, and APAP. They also make heaps of masks equivalent to the Resmed versions. Caveat, I haven’t tried this, but they appear good.
I have the BMC G3, great price and works great. It does seem a little loud sometimes, but I don’t have anything to reference it against.
I have a BMC Luna iQ G2S and have used a resmed airsense 10 extensively. I have not noticed much difference in terms of sleep quality. I will say the BMC machine is slightly louder though.
Thanks, picked up an airmini bundle for $985.50. Been considering one of these for my travels for a while.
I have one, the noise at the mask is louder than it should be due to the way the AirMini handles pressure - it’s not the same as the large home units.
I’ll be changing to the Transcend Micro once I can be bothered. Smaller and has good reviews.
I believe a lot of the noise associated with the airmini is due to the narrower diameter hose. An adpater to a standard diameter hose should help.
Unfortunately I didn’t notice much difference - the same mask and hose on my AirSense 10 is almost silent, it’s just how the AirMini deals with pressure. There’s more reports of it online. It’s a shame.
No - both the AirSense 11 and the Air Mini have the same motor and use the same algorithms to provide pressure relief.
And the reason why the Air Mini is nosier than the Air Sense machines has nothing to do with the diameter of the hoses either.
It's entirely due to the fact that the Air Mini, and other small CPAP devices, have almost zero sound deadening material inside them (that's how they get them to be so small) meaning that the noise of the motor during inhalation and exhalation travels straight done the hose to the mouth piece, producing that annoying sound right next to your face (and ears).
And I wouldn't bother changing to the Transcend Micro either - from all reports the noise from that machine is not much quieter and has a mechanical whirring accent to it that many people find even more annoying.
Sadly the extra noise of the motor is the price that has to be paid for having a machine that is so much smaller and lighter for travel use.
@greatscott: I don’t get any motor noise, it’s the whooshing of air at the mask that is loud. You can test it by sticking the mini under the covers to muffle it. Mine doesn’t make much motor noise at all.
I’m about to give it a ten day run, I’ll do some testing.
@zfind: For future reference, I gave it a test run this morning and despite a slight whistle I’m getting from using a homemade filter, the unit is very quiet. The vast majority of noise is at the elbow - tested with both standard and AirMini versions, same result. It’s just poor engineering.
How did you get that at that price? Sadly, it looks like above 1K
Just used the code in this post
So do these stop people snoring?
Yes, you cannot snore as these physically hold your airway open with air pressure. Not a somnologist, ymmv etc. see a doctor.
What would be the process for a non-snorer who still suspects sleep apnea, but failed the bulk billing test because of the non-snoring?
Do you have a smart watch ?
Garmin yep
Just spoke to Resmed about my Airsense 10 3G. Looks like they secretly had a program to upgarde 3G devices to 4G and it just ended. Haven't even emailed any customers about it either. So dodgy. Anyone else in the same boat?
Why do you want resmed to have all of your sleep data ? You could always copy the SD card and upload it manually
Oh no someone's gonna see my breathing graphs lol
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Anyone find a similar active deal
I just saw this post and found the information very useful, thanks everyone who shared their stories!
I used this code to get the same price: CPAPREVIEWS
Haven't been tracking the market, but that looks to be a pretty good price.