Cheapest AM5 B650 motherboard with heatsink and build in I/O panel plus Wifi.
This will sell out quick so if you want it dont think too long.
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o wow VGA you know a board is cutting edge when it has VGA PORTS!!!!
it's not just that, it also got PS/2.
1990s called but couldn't leave a message
well it is "GAEMING"
they might mean dingy web cafes in islamabad or some shit
'terrorists win'
No parallel port, no deal.
no firewire 400 ports either.
Nice! Great deal for a great board.
Anyone considering this for an mATX build be aware of the PCI E slot placement, might be too low for some cases.
Have a similar mATX board and was able to fit xfx 7900 xt in nr400 case which is a mATX case. This is one of the thickest 7900xt. Real issue with this is to get cables under the card as spacing is really tight.
Just to clarify, l have no intention to say you are wrong, only want to warn anyone who recently bought this board.
One thing I have notices is there's a pcie 1 slot where you would normally have the x16 slot, which pushes the GPU one slot to the left?
This could be a real issue in a SFF build..
For example I have a thermaltake "tower 300" and it has 4 pcie bays, hence any size of card will fit, but any card under 4 slots wide allowed me to shoehorn some extra feeder fans on the left side of the case directly into the GPU, which works great.
I'd be concerned that this board (and I'm sure most boards) would force the GPU one slot further over, and hence leave no room for these extra fans… I was considering whether to get a "cheap" board and balanced fast ram, coming in $400 in total, and add a ~$600 CPU (cheapest x3d) to make a gaming focus to the machine.. but if they're all built with a pcie slot in the way this might be a non-starter!
Did you see the recent $400 aliexpress 7800x3d deal? Still active I think
Thanks , yes that would make a great budget upgrade… I'm moving from a B550 board with a 5900x at 4.4ghz, DDR4 3600 , I would imaging a bit of a gaming boost from going to a 7800x3d… more still for a 9800x3d, however the latter probably deserves a better motherboard.
The latter doesn’t take more power than a 78X3D, so it doesn’t really need a better board.
Also, not all mATX boards have the 16x one slot down, quite a few have it on the first slot still. Personally like the second slot, as it allows for beefy air coolers.
Holy shit got it for 87.5 with the business prime deal + I will be receiving a $10 computer voucher
And it’s coming by 10pm today
Thanks op
Pair it with the 7700 AE deals and 32gb of ram..
That's a 500 dollar AM5 upgrade right there. Damn… I shouldn't. I wanna. But I shouldn't.. My 5600x is enough. It's enough dammit! Lol. (also I'd need to upgrade my ncase m1 to the m2 to accommodate matx… Heh)
Advertise your 5600x somewhere on here or elsewhere, I’m sure someone will (partially) finance your AM5 upgrade.
I'd be more likely to hand-me-down my 5600x to my brother. Swap out his 3600 and sell that. I spose I'd still need to sell my Asus b450i board which should give a decent chunk back perhaps. Ram I'd probably keep spare as both bro and partner running am4 atm.
Something to consider I guess!
OCAU Forum is a good place to sell
will we ever get discounts on not bottom of the barrel am5 boards?
AMD is trying to get motherboard manufacturers to switch from the 600 series chipsets to the 800 series chipsets.
So for a little while there should be bargains for both, 600 series as runout models, if you want something that's just gone obsolete, and 800 series as introductory models.
At the same time the big name memory companies are terminating manufacturing DDR4 chips and switching to DDR5. Because the Chinese cheaper manufacturers can now undercut them and they can't charge prices that make a profit. S if you still want DDR4 it'll get cheaper but all you'll have to choose from is weird brand names.
Thought the actual chipset is the same, but AMD enforced USB4 support on 800 series. X870 is more like B650E.
MB makers can't squeeze the price down due to that USB4 chipset cost (and potentially the need to route a display port to it). 800 series boards probably have minor improvements for slightly better ram support.
It is bizarre. I bought one B850 board and it had USB4 with DP Alt Mode using the support in my CPU, which doesn't need an external USB4 chip. Then I bought another B850 board and it completely ignores the USB4 in the CPU, and only has 5 Mb/s USB. AMD really needs to get its act together on USB4, because its coming, ready or not.
USB4 has been around for some time now. Thunderbolt 5 is already here and USB4 gen 4 (aka USB4 v2.0) is coming later. USB4 operates like Thunderbolt, the default Windows settings (setup for faster device removal) is not ideal for Thunderbolt / USB4. It's nothing new, especially if you have / had Intel branded or Apple devices.
Correction: for B850, USB4 is optional, it is only mandatory in X series. Thus, AMD CPUs do not have USB4 built-in, otherwise it wouldn't be "optional".
AMD CPUs do not have USB4 built-in
Mine both do. And its probably the fact that they are about the only ones that do that motherboard manufacturers are ignoring what is there that they just have to find a way to use for those couple of CPU models that do, when all the others don't.
AMD Phoenix CPUs have two, count em, two USB4 controllers built into them. On one motherboard one of them connects to a USB-C socket. On the other they are unused. What a waste.
@GordonD: Does look like AMD has started doing that for some of their CPUs. The USB4 controller embedded to the CPU is the best setup, since they use CPU PCIe lanes. Intel does it to some of their mobile CPUs (Apple does that to Apple Silicon CPUs as well). Motherboard just need to wire to those ports.
I think the CPU only has 1 USB4 controller, but it supports 2 USB4 ports (that's the most common setup) since the ASMedia USB4 chipset has that arrangement (PCIe gen 4 x4 can support up to 2 USB4 normally). Having 2 USB4 controllers would mean 4 USB4 ports (and taking up PCIe gen 4 x8 which doesn't quite make sense). So for CPUs which have embedded USB4 controller, you want a motherboard or mini PC maker that knows what's going on and wire those ports out.
5 Mb/s USB
I'm showing my age. That I'm from the kilobyte and megabyte generation. Of course the USB is 5 Gb/s. My point was its not even 10 Gb/s, let alone 20, let alone 40.
@GordonD: You need to have the right type of enclosure and if the enclosure is dodgy or even if the cable is dodgy, USB4 could fallback to USB2 mode (in the worst case). You also need to adjust Windows on that particular device so it doesn't operate in a mode that's suited for pulling out USB4 cable at will (otherwise you will get significantly inferior speed even in USB4 mode).
gone obsolete? what are you talking about the 600 series and 800 series AM5 chipsets are 100% identical. They use the exact same silicon. They have just RENAMED IT from 6XX to 8XX and changed the motherboard board partner spec recommendations. nothing more nothing less.. look it up.
what are you talking about the 600 series and 800 series AM5 chipsets are 100% identical. They use the exact same silicon
You're right there. I noticed it when I saw the block diagrams for my 600 series board side by side with the 800 series board, and both had the same part number for the south bridge. Its not a real change, just updating the model name with everything under the hood staying the same. I had to do a flashback on the B850 board. I downloaded the chipset firmware to do it, and It was even named as B650 firmware. But the fact remains that the model name is changed. So people who don't know its the same assume its better.
5+2+2 VRM you want at least 8+2+1
B650m tier list 2025 it gets a F. C or higher is recommended.
I think think there will be many people putting in power hungry CPU's on a board like this. :) its cheap for a reason. 5+2+2 VRM is plenty for 65w CPU's
it runs 9800x3d just fine, it draws like ~80W during gaming. it won't hit VRM limits unless you stress test it to >125W.
It feels like you might be both over-prioritizing VRMs and also misusing this tier list, which is explicitly not a VRM-only ranking (!)
Literally in the video, discussing the Gigabyte B650M D3HP AX, an F-rated motherboard: "it's a 5+2+2, so that I mean is fine for a 6 or 8 core CPU for gaming" (~10:00)
5+2+2 VRM you want at least 8+2+1
@firepower Where can you find 8+2+1 for anywhere near $126 ?
Perfect time for those who bought some AMD cpus on the deals at Aliexpress recently.
Been this price for a while
I saw $165. Why?
I was going to buy it but was told it has poor vrm you cans get the Wi-Fi plus for 170 with 2 extra ram slots. But I guess same vrm issue.
Any recommendations for a cheap mid level small ff graphics card?
Define cheap and mid level… There's the new msi Itx rtx 5060 but at 600 I wouldn't say it's cheap. It's certainly mid. Lol
cheap = ~$200
mid level = any card that can play modern games at mid - low graphics. I am not after high end graphics, just want to play the game
New $200 GPU's don't exist anymore
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https://ebay.us/m/RTL2zj
@GordonD what model B850 had USB4?
super high end.. i think the ASUS B850 Strix with One USB4
His situation is different, his CPUs have embedded USB4 controller so they actually need a board which simply wire them out to 2 USB4 ports (and wired the DisplayPort(s) from the CPU correctly).
Most motherboards would put an ASMedia USB4 chipset on the board (and could be wired to the motherboard chipset instead of CPU PCIe lanes directly). You could achieve the same thing with a USB4 add-on card on B650 boards with a PCIe gen 4 x4 slot. USB4 only offers PCIe gen 3x4 like speed for a m.2 SSD (despite taking up PCIe gen 4x4 lanes, but I guess it supports 2 ports).
Do you prefer PCIe gen 5 support from mainstream AM5 desktop CPUs or you love USB4 so much you are willing to let go of PCIe gen 5 support to get embedded USB4 support running PCIe gen 4 (CPU not supporting PCIe gen 5)? No point getting hyped up on USB4 nowadays since Thunderbolt 5 is out and USB4v2 is coming (both double the bandwidth over USB4 and fully utilise PCIe gen 4 x4 lanes).
what model B850 had USB4
netsurfer is correct. I only have USB4 on an ASRock B850I-Lightning ITX board because the USB4 controller is in the Phoenix CPU not on the board. Its not a feature of the board. Its a feature of the CPU. With a different CPU that USB port would still support DP Alt Mode, but it'd only be a USB3 port.
Currently sold out at KS Computer, but if you change sellers its available from MetroCom computers for $125 delivered.
Decent Jimmy, decent!
If RGB isn't important to you, like it wasn't important to me, then Gigabyte boards seem fine… But my RAM is RGB and there doesn't seem to be a way to change or turn it off. So I tried to lean into it, and brother, the Gigabyte software is terrible at RGB.
I'm contemplating changes to my RAM so I can be 100% no-RGB. I can't deal with this one foot in either camp thing.
Don't bother with manufacturer software, install OpenRGB and disable from there.
Very lightweight software and works with almost all hardware that has any lighting 🙂
If you have solved my RGB problem I would have finally received some value from the years of sunken time in this site haha
Why hate rgb so much?
I don't hate RGB, it just isn't important to me, it seems the choice is either keep all components one brand (and pay accordingly) to avoid multiple OEM apps to keep synced, my situation is
Lianli (CASE, FANS, AIO Cooler),
Gigabyte (PSU, MBD),
ASUS (GPU),
Corsair (RAM),
Logitech (KBD, MSE)
So thats 5 different OEMS, 4 different apps (RAM no app needed, but MBD can't seem to adjust it)
The other choice is buy everything say… Gigabyte.. so that it all works in one.
Someone above suggested OpenRGB, which may improve my situation markedly!
$115 with $10 coupon EVG10ELX on amazon.com.au
Shame the 16x slot isn't the first slot on this one
Thanks mate. Decent.