Dear folks
I have got Hyundai 2014 Elantra every 6 months I have to replace car tail/stop bulb driver side as it keeps burning out
I am using NARVA brands
Last time I replaced was 13.11.24 and today I replaced by a new one.
What could be an a cause to this issue ?
Thx
Since they stopped making globes in Australia and shifted manufacture to China this has been an ongoing problem.
OP could try searching on AliExpress or Temu for an LED replacement.
They are supposed to have much longer service hours and are very cheap
Since they stopped making globes in Australia and shifted manufacture to China this has been an ongoing problem.
Then why is only one specifc bulb on OP's car blowing? Did OP buy Australian-made bulbs for all his other lights but only Chinese-manufactured bulbs for his rear right hand side light?
Don't bring logic to this argument….
Maybe the globes are no good
They are NARVA brand ,,,,I guess they are premium quality ?
A Premium OzBargainer would stop using their brakes. This would also save on brake pads. Make sure you've paid your insurance premiums.
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Let us know how that works out for you ⁉️
The Camry is still alive after 30 years
But he is replacing his shoes every other week.
Yabadaba do!
Try a different brand.
Try a different brand.
I will try that and see how it goes
Any other premium brands you suggested ? Repco , SuperCheap ?
How long did the original ones last, maybe try some genuine ones. Otherwise goto a self serve wreckers and get some out of an early 2000's car. They were made to last back then, I sent my 20+ year old car to the wreckers with just about all the original globes, including the tail/stop globes.
scrapped a 20 year old car!!!!!! Only just worn in….🤪
Otherwise goto a self serve wreckers and get some out of an early 2000's car
I forgot I guess I tried one or two bulbs got them from the wrecking yard but when I run out I bought NARVA
maybe try some genuine ones
I am thinking to order Philips brand
He meant a different brand of car :P
premium brands you suggested ? Repco , SuperCheap ?
SuperCheap is a premium brand? lolol
Check all fuses in your car
Check rear parking sensor
No problem can check fuses ,,,,,,but what do I need for parking sensor ?
Don't bother. Use the KISS principle, first. Globes are not that expensive. But handle them carefully. Put a better branded one in,Phillips,Bosch etc. Not SCA Repco,Narva. See how it goes. (Remember, these 2 filament globes have offset location notches, and only fit one way) You may just be having a coincidental bad run of globes.Suck it & see.
Seems unlikely if its only one globe going.
This is the correct answer and a common issue with Hyundai and Kia. Get a new voltage regulator.
If it was an overvoltage problem, all the bulbs should have that issue and not just one specific one.
@JIMB0: Sure. But going by logic, voltage would be low down on my list of possibilities since it's always that one specific bulb only.
@JIMB0: There is no need to resort to insults.
Different people have different approaches to troubleshooting. I start with applying logic to the symptoms rather than follow a fixed set of steps every single time regardless of the symptoms.
Both methods can work. One might find the problem quicker than the other. It can be either one depending on your luck.
I never said a faulty alternator couldn't be the problem. I said based on the symptoms, it is less likely to be the problem because high voltage will affect every single bulb (and electronic module) on the car.
How many times all up?
Narva globes are hit & miss.
Hit a pot hole (there are several around ) with a hot bulb and they can break. Did the same with a new h7 bulb which lasted for a month, failed and the replacement has lasted 3 years…..
How many times all up?
So far this 3 times with NARVA and before that I forgot but I was using either Supercheap or REPCO brands
Check your voltage.
Happy to do so ,,,,do you want me to check voltage on battery using multimeter while engine is running ? if the alternator have a faulty regulator why only that stop bulb keeps blowing up ?
Nope, turn off the engine. and it is not bulb issue, might be a fuse, or short circuit contact. Bulbs should last 3-4 years at least.
Means my fluke multimeter should typically read between 12.6 and 12.8 volts ?
Surely a short circuit would more than likely blow the fuse before a globe, and the other side globe wouldn't work if the fuse was dead?.
Tail and brake are separate circuits. I'd be checking where the globes connector points and the socket they sit in, to see if there is good firm contact. (No wobbles in the housing to globe ,either)
Try changing both bulbs, driver and passenger side together, not just the one that burnt out.
No problem will do that ,,,,,,do you suggest NARVA ? or different premium brands ?
Narva again? I think you answered that one.
Yes you are right I forgot that because so many replays
Cheeck the wiring and socket. If its got a poor connection could be causing a problem. Any water in the assembly?
Maybe trying an LED globe might give some more longevilty.
had same problem old corolla put some silicone grease around the metal contacts
I had the same issue on my 2019 santa fe.
All wiring checked independently and no issues found.
Supercheap guy suggested that he heard similar issues with other hyundai owner and recommended the Narva led lights for tail and no issues after that.
the Narva led lights for tail and no issues after that.
I will try OSRAM and see how it goes
Excessive vibration can make the filament in bulbs break from mechanical stress. If you can get an LED bulb that fits, it could fix the problem.
If you can get an LED bulb that fits, it could fix the problem
I might try that ,,,,,but I haven't used LED before,,,,,,any decent brand ?
Philips Ultinon are probably the best ones to get.
What could be an a cause to this issue ?
Likely that the filament inside the globe broke…
jv, I thought you would be a bit more versed in the differences between cause and effect …
cause
/ kɔːz /
noun
"the reason why something, especially something bad, happens"
'Overvoltage, water ingress, excessive vibrations, or bad globe quality are a possible cause of this issue'
effect
/ ɪˈfɛkt /
noun
something that is produced by an agency or cause; result
'Exposure to overvoltage or water had the effect of breaking the filament inside the globe'
PS - Say "G'day mate, how ya goin'?" to Albert and Charlene for us.
What’s failing, tail filament, brake filament, glass cracking.
Incandescent globes get very hot. Check if there’s any ventilation that might be blocked. Check no water in the tail light, or any gap where rain or car wash might wet the globe.
If still unresolved, change to LED for a cool solution.
Brake filament
That’s the higher wattage, so it gets hotter.
Check its not staying on (faulty wiring or actuator switch), and that no one’s driving with a foot lightly touching the brake pedal. Otherwise, as above or maybe a quality issue with your globes.
And try ozbargainoid’s idea
If only one globe is burning loose cable or holder first try some. WD40 on the globe holder
If it was loose, wouldn't adding lube make it looser? :)
Wd40 isnt really a lube, it's too light to do any real lubrication. It may help with a poor electrical connection.
WD40 isn't a long-lasting lubricant but it is a lubricant as it reduces friction.
It is also an insulator, but it can help clean dirt and grime off the contacts. Dirt and grime would reduce the amount of power going to the bulb which should make it last longer, but if it's intermittent that could shorten the bulb's lifespan. So it could be worth trying after all!
Swap the new bulb with the good bulb on the other side.
If that bulb burns out, it might be another reason the bulb dies … i.e. faulty holder, water ingress or something else.
Also make sure the replacement bulb is the correct type, this information can be found in the owners manual.
Thx for your help
Since i have been replacing the faulty one with a new bulb of NARVA, there is no need to use the other side bulb which NARVA as well
Yes it the correct type and i have pack of 10
Thx mate
Are you changing the bulbs yourself?
Can't remember where but i recall being advised not to handle the bulbs by hand as oil from skin can get on the glass of the bulb, as they get very hot this causes the bulb to fail prematurely. Not sure if true, but since then i've been careful not to have skin contact with the bulb when installing (i wear disposable gloves)
Came here to say this.
Op are you wearing gloves or cleaning the bulbs after install?
No I haven’t wear gloves when installed it
Low ,low risk.(if at all)
That is true for halogen bulbs (e.g. headlights) as they get very hot and the oils and sweat from your skin can cause hotspots on the quartz envelope and lead to cracking.
Tail light bulbs are just standard non-halogen incandescent bulbs which do not get as hot so it's not an issue. It's the same type of bulb as an ordinary pre-LED light bulb for a table lamp at home which doesn't require gloves to install.
I had this problem on a Mazda. One headlight would die every 3 months or so while the other one would last a long long time.
In the end the problem was the holder the light plugged into, when I looked at it closer it had some damage on one of the prongs, probably from shorting out one time. Replaced with a suitable part and have never had a problem since.
I'm not sure if that car has something similar on the break light but worth checking.
I will check the housing for the bulb
Are you touching the globes with your hands when installing? The oils on yor hands could significantly impact the lamp life. Use gloves or clean the globe with alcohol after installation
It's not as much of an issue with incandescent globes as it is with halogen & LED,HID. (heat generated hot spots)
Noted
I didn’t use gloves but i will use isopropyl to clean it
any chance that water is getting in and short circuiting the bulb? Keep a diary of all replacements and see if there is some pattern
I will examine that if i can find any trace
Had the same problem on right side of a vehicle and it ended up being a dodgy wire that shorted out randomly.
Had the same problem on the wifes old Elantra, tried LEDs off Temu, one lasted 2 weeks lol..
Put Bosch (still made in China) regular globes in and no further issues.
How many ozbargainer comments does it take to change a lightbulb 💡?
Hi All
I uploaded the battery voltage reading while engine is switched off and engine is running and photos of the housing for the bulb
Charge seems fine.
If you have a VERY steady hand, you could use a piece of stiff wire fashioned into an L shaped hook (with a short leg) and GENTLY! lift those contacts in the bulb plug fitting so there's a bit better contact. I'm talking CAREFULLY stretching the contacts with the hook no more than 1-1.5mm difference from their position now. (You could even grind off the L section of a skinny allen key so you have enough left to do the job)
Key word is CAREFULLY. That said, can you see any pitting or scorch marks on the contacts?
Respectfully disagree (Repco. Other pages say similar things)
Testing the Alternator with the Engine Running
Once you have tested the battery, start the engine. Leave it idling and turn off all electrical components like the radio, air conditioning, and headlights.
As before, set your multimeter to the DC voltage setting.
With the engine running, connect the multimeter’s positive probe (usually red) to the battery’s positive terminal and the positive probe (usually black) to the negative terminal. The voltage reading should be between 13.8 and 14.8 volts. This range indicates that the alternator is charging the battery properly.
If the voltage is below 13.8 volts, the alternator may be undercharging the battery. A reading above 14.8 volts suggests the alternator is overcharging, which can also lead to battery damage.
IMO opinion OPs alt V is in range. If it was spiking over ,say 14.8V, the ECU ,fuses and other globes would soon become victims. Replace the globe. Then see how it goes.
I've seen tractor alt with similar high amps but everything was fine.Lights,battery,other
Once you have tested the battery,
When engine was off reading voltage was 12.68 DCV
start the engine. Leave it idling and turn off all electrical components like the radio, air conditioning, and headlights
Testing was done according to the above condition and it was 14.54 DCV
@zillah: Yeah, it looks fine. Time to concentrate on the contacts (CAREFULLY) and add that new Phillips globe. Once it's all back together, get someone else in the car and test the rear lights (brake pedal pumping and hold pedal down now and then. If the globe brightness and light continuity is the same both sides, just suck it and see.
If it flickers on the shit side, dig deeper, but I don't reckon it will.
To me, the contacts don't look clean, like they had rusty water on them. . Maybe give them a little scuff/scratch/clean. Wont be easy, but something like a screwdriver to scrape them back to shiny. .
I will try to clean it as well,,,,,,any suggestion how to clean it apart from using flat head screwdriver ?Any liquid or a special brush ?
Bit of vinegar on a cotton wool bud,maybe. Or dampen one, and add some bicarb to the tip and just gently scour it. CAREFULLY bending the contact up afterwards
Noted Protractor will do that and I have order Philips bulb as well
CAREFULLY!
Yes defiantly will consider that ,,,Thx
Whoa!
I see JIMBO deleted every piece of their professional advice around the charge system. Or was it every comment?
Anyway OP, please drop an update on here at some point .It would be appreciated
Maybe the globes are no good, try the premium/long life ones