Low-Rise House Pattern Drawing Package $1 Each (Usually $1,000) @ Government Architect NSW

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Cheap cheap design for only $1 now - was $1,000 but subsidized by the government until Jan 26!

May be useful for some people here.

Each pack contains distinct designs for the LMR housing areas and other sites in NSW. The pack also contains adaptations for this pattern.

The pack includes the following documentation:

  • Technical drawings in PDF
  • Technical drawings [2D] in DWG format
  • BASIX information sheet
  • NSW Housing Pattern Book Design Verification Statement template
  • NSW Housing Pattern Book Landscape Guide

Upon payment, you will be entering into a legal agreement with the NSW Government in the form of these Terms and conditions.

Patterns will be delivered electronically via email following purchase. You will receive a purchase confirmation email and the Department will endeavour to fulfil the order within 5 business days. You will have 30 days to access and download the files. You will be issued with a unique pattern registration number to reference when you lodge your planning application. This number will be considered proof of purchase of the pattern.

NSW Housing Pattern Book Website

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Comments

  • +2

    Who TF paid $1000 for this?

    • +36

      Have you seen how much house plans cost?

      • +1

        As a renter, I…

    • -1

      Bargain of the year :D

    • +11

      If you need house plans, and these meet your needs, $1000 is definitely a bargain…..$1 is crazy!

        • +17

          Huh? Plenty of landlords/investors on OzB.

        • +17

          So that rules out 99% of the OzBargain community

          this community of people who have time and money to spend on unnecessary stuffs, sound like a lot of landlords, investors to me

          • +5

            @chanhoz: Mate, rather than spending your time being salty, it's far more productive to focus on increasing your income to the point where it will eventually free up your time. Can you improve your current station by being salty? But is it easy to focus on the right thing, of course not, which is why some people will never improve their situation or find success, because they have given up before they even tried.

            • -2

              @clubhonda: Who hurt you?

              • +4

                @chanhoz: I feel sorry for you. What can you accomplish by being salty?

                • -1

                  @clubhonda: You shouldn't project your feeling on to other people but whatever make you happy mate.

        • There are landlords here, but we don't openly announce it coz there are far more haters.

          • @SlickMick: not a landlord here but who do you rent from if not for a landlord? they take a large risk, not for small reward and many fail. my sis in law's landlord is a gem, maintaining a great property for market rate return for years now. so there's a good story, I'm well aware of the bad. Yes things need to change (but not for my sis in law).

            • @sim36:

              who do you rent from if not for a landlord?

              Exactly, but don't mention here that landlords provide a community service.

              they take a large risk

              Yeah, we ended up with a huge amount of debt. But when rates were so low, imo anybody who didn't leverage was missing an opportunity of a lifetime. But rates could go the other way. You can play and maybe win, maybe lose, but there are many here who didn't play but despise those who are winning.

              I'm well aware of the bad

              Yeah, I visited someone once who's home was a curtained-off section of a large room. But the petty haters here don't hate on treating tenants poorly, they hate on landlords being successful and them missing out.

              I reckon they'd have less issue with someone who made their fortune peddling drugs.

    • +7

      $1000 is a bargain as well

      • +12

        I am a registered architect in Victoria. I can say, 100% you are correct, even a $1000 is a bargain.
        You are getting all technical drawings, including realistic visuals with material selections etc.

        • -6

          and now architects are even less valued because of this as future design fees will potentially be benchmarked against this.

          this is the new low for architects, and high for the public in need of good design.

          • +2

            @revelationx:

            and now architects are even less valued

            Never going to happen.

            Unless one is looking for cheap stuff, an architect isn’t for them. A developer with ‘copy pasta’ plans is more suitable for them.

            People think architecture (or architects) is/ are just about some fancy ‘drawings’. It’s more than that.

            Their work in this regard is merely 20% roughly of their entire work process. A lot goes into the entire process, more than you’d imagine.

            (I guess architects are at fault here - they ought communicate this and educate the public better about what the do).

            Mind you, as per competent architect (an Australian architect is highly regulated profession and respected worldwide), each design they do is usually specifically designed for the site it sits on.

            A ‘Copy pasta’ is such a waste of time, energy and money - and is a sign of a bad architect. Such approach will only take one so far. (Why spend so much time being in someone else’s design when you can have one made custom to you since you’re already paying heaps for it?)

            • -3

              @YoursTruly:

              Why spend so much time being in someone else’s design when you can have one made custom to you since you’re already paying heaps for it

              Because I don't want to pay more for useless architects? Who already get paid ridiculously

              • @DrScavenger: So don’t, it’s really that simple.

                Continue to in journey of un enhanced lifestyle.
                Don’t spend money to enhance it, nor complain it’s too expensive to pursue the same.

                • -2

                  @YoursTruly: I would rather get it drawn by foreign architects. Massive ego and "holier-than-thou" attitude by many Australian professionals.

                  • +2

                    @DrScavenger: There is a reason they are expensive. Quality and stringent standards compared to overseas.

                    Said foreign architects are not licensed nor allowed to build locally - unless they get a licence (unlikely easy) or very dodgy venues are involved - such as by the client/ developer.

                    Even if such were to happen, they would need to be processed locally - hence double cost.

                    Please do some research. It’s good for health.

                    • -3

                      @YoursTruly: Yes, licensed to draw the house, yet it still needs to be approved by the architects on the council again. Double the license, double the fee, double the trouble.

                      The reason they are expensive is, they artificially limit the supply and stop people from being licensed architects.

                      • +4

                        @DrScavenger: Nah mate. The reason it’s tough isn't because of the reason you state or think, it’s because there a folks who want shortcuts; or to lower the quality of the final result; or to lower the profession. So that why it’s highly regulated and a stringent profession.

                        It’s the same for other reputable careers that involve society. Proper regulated process. No one would want a dodgy doctor or one who takes shortcuts, neither would they want the same form an architect.

                        • -4

                          @YoursTruly: Yep, thats the made-up bullshit that people who are already licensed say/do to keep the supply low and salaries high. Medicine specialists are the biggest artificial supply limiters of their own profession. Government has to take control of this corruption.

                          • @DrScavenger: That’s a sad way to look at it. Can’t help you with that.

                            • -3

                              @YoursTruly: Enjoy paying thousands for psychiatrists

                              • @DrScavenger: Enjoy complaining.

                                You want quality for cheap. Ain’t happening.
                                There is a reason why things are defined as ‘cheap’.

                                Good luck.

                                • -1

                                  @YoursTruly: Looks like this was personal to you. "Cheap product" or "Cheap Service" doesn't always mean a bad outcome. Just like "expensive product or service" doesn't equate to a good outcome. Professionals try to keep their service high by limiting the supply. If 10 people can be "good" doctors, only 1 is taken. If 10 doctors can specialise, only 1 is taken.

                                  • @DrScavenger: Nah it isn’t personal.

                                    It’s correcting misinformation + appreciating and giving something the respect it deserves.

                          • +4

                            @DrScavenger: Never heard of another architect stopping someone else being an architect.
                            In fact, the industry is filled with small businesses and countless more sole-practitioners who fail at their own business because a) it's not as easy as most think b) it's pretty dull working in a small office c) the pay-day inherantly isn't there.

                            Architecture, like medicine, is an extremely skilled profession, which weeds out most candidates at the gates. Those who actually are highly successful are a percentage of a percentage.

                            There is no conspiracry which you seem to think is there.

                            Look elsewhere in this thread, in fact, do some proper reading about your so called gate-keeper high-level professions and come back with more wisdom. You definitely need it as you have a chip on your shoulder for some reason.

                            Psychiatrists are some of the most trained (along with other specialist medicines) professionals that exist, and they are actively saving lives. They somewhat deserve to be paid handsomely, just like surgeons. Do you have any idea how long it takes to become a registered architect? What about a practicing, registered psychoanalyst?

                            Mod: Removed Personal Attack

                            • +5

                              @Thiefsie: "keep architect's salaries high" hahaha.

                              There's very few architects on good money.

                              When you see a beater car parked near a building site, it either belongs to the 17 year old apprentice, or to the architect with 15 years experience doing a site visit.

                              • @Rick Sanchez: lol

                                Nope

                                Something I’ve noticed about architects is they are not too lavish on cars or ‘showing off’ . They are beyond that.

              • +4

                @DrScavenger: Have you ever used one? Worth their weight in gold.

                Unfortunately only about 7% of houses are designed by Architects. The general public normally only see project homes in their life and do not understand or have experienced what a properly designed place to live life in is.

                p.s They study as long as a doctor and get same pay as a senior school teacher or nurse.

                • @Spider McGlurk:

                  as senior school teacher or nurse.

                  Not quite. That’s a stereotype

                  Graduates do get paid that or lower. Once you’re a registered, pay is better

                • -1

                  @Spider McGlurk: Oh no. How dare they get paid same as filthy jobs such as…..teacher and nurse. Lmao. If anything it shows how underpaid teachers are. Just be an admin officer, better career prospects

        • +1

          Little boxes on the hillside,
          Little boxes made of ticky tacky,
          Little boxes on the hillside,
          Little boxes all the same.
          There's a green one and a pink one
          And a blue one and a yellow one,
          And they're all made out of ticky tacky
          And they all look just the same.

  • I dont know whats its worth. But i read somewhere that it will get you council approval in 14 days instead lf over 180 days.

    Quicker approval will be good but still doesnt solve the other steps being slow

    Edit just realised these are multi dwelling unit designs. Might be aimed more to investor builders

  • +4

    All 8 of them.

  • +12

    99.9% off. Not bad

    • +4

      And Shopback tooo

      • Wonder if my credit card will exclude the $1 from counting towards my 3k in 3 months spend due to the "goverment payment" exclusion.

  • -3

    Why on earth have they called it a "pattern book"?

    This kind of thing really does my head in.

    • +1

      Architect mumbo jumbo.

    • +14

      Why the hell do they call it a "toaster"? Why call anything anything?

      • +4

        bread warmer

        • +3

          that's just raw toast

      • +3

        bakery scorcher

        • +5

          Cockroach crematorium

    • +8

      Because that’s what it is? It’s a book of patterns? It’s standard terminology in the field lol.

    • +2

      To differentiate them from average plans, as these are pre-approved solutions

  • +4

    Manor Homes 01 by Studio Johnston looks good :D

  • Is it just me or is it a bit low on the detail until you pay for it?

    All you can do is look at a facade and go yeah, that might be enough space/bedrooms/work with my block etc.. and have a gamble?

    • +5

      well you can just pay $1 and check if it's detailed enough or not lol

    • +6

      i do agree, not a big problem at $1.

      but for $1000 i'd like to know some essential information like land size & street frontage required.

    • +3

      More detail in this page, idk why the don't just link it back to this but ideally you go for this first then purchase in the linked page
      https://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/government-architect-nsw/hou…

      • +1

        haha holy moly, the place i thought would work for my block as a knockdown rebuild is a 4 apartment block

  • Patterns will be delivered electronically via email following purchase. You will receive a purchase confirmation email and the Department will endeavour to fulfil the order within 5 business days. You will have 30 days to access and download the files. You will be issued with a unique pattern registration number to reference when you lodge your planning application. This number will be considered proof of purchase of the pattern.

  • +7

    Thanks bought 2 semi duplex row double-storey terrace manors.

  • +10

    These are the only "houses" i'll ever be able to afford.

    • +17

      Everyone: Huge tax incentives for property investors, 10x sustainable immigration, and not releasing land for development have made Australian homes the least affordable in the world.

      20 times the average annual salary for a drafty crumbling 2 bedder an hour from the city is nuts.

      It's strangling the whole economy, all our money is tied up in dirt.

      Young people can't afford to live anywhere.

      Government, can you please stop?

      Politician: I hear you! Tell you what, I'll keep doing all the stupid BS, but I'll pay hundreds of thousands of your tax dollars…

      Everyone: to homeless shelters? Rent assistance?

      Politician: …to my buddies who made this book of house designs, so you can have it for a buck!

      • +4

        Exactly!
        Just reduce demand. Supply problem fixed.

        • -7

          Immigration is good, because of economic growth. Productivity has stagnated for decades, so we rely on immigration for continued economic growth, and we're selective about immigration so that we have a higher quality tax base.

          • +8

            @nomadspartan: I wouldn't call uber eats drivers high quality.

            • +1

              @commiewealth: "Immigrants" who work "for" Uber eats tend to be students, which is a significant export of ours, who want to earn extra income on the side to pay for their living costs while studying here. Of course there are those who try to game the system, but I'd say the Labour government has done a good job on cracking down on that.

              I'd rather these students work and contribute to the economy, while also continuing with their study (if it's genuine). We can also offer these students, who now have Australian qualifications and have had a taste of living in Australia a pathway to permanent migration, but this can be difficult to get right, and we should be selective about it.

          • +7

            @nomadspartan: Immigration is good, but the volume and the skill mix is key.

            The peversity of our current strategy is that population growth has been the lever used to increase the tax base in order to accomodate the bedpan demands of an ageing population - an ageing population of which have seen the greatest wealth increase of any generation in Australian history. Conversely, this has had a financially disempowering impact on all the generations proceding, and worst of all it has all been done using the tax payer's purse.

            Explaining GDP growth as a positive when relying on importing people is half the story. GDP per capita growth has been weak relative to the aggregate figure. Median incomes have not even matched this per capita growth which is a direct outcome of labour supply increases in-lieu of any sensible long-term strategy.

            Our weak productivity is indicative of broader structural economic issues that have led to the near-complete elimination of our export manufacturing sector from a value-add perspective, which brings me to my final whinge: the skills make-up of that immigration figure. Given that they have decided to make it rain VISAs, couldn't they have focussed on skilled labour or at least ensured that we can at least build homes at a rate that maintains the key vacancy rate of circa 2.9-3.5% to ensure rental price stability?

            This whole scenario reaks of career politicians playing a game of demographics rather than one of shared prosperity.

            I'm getting old, I'm tired, and yes I'm having a sook.

            • +2

              @Wheresmyspaceship: You raise excellent points, which I agree with. Long story short, economic prosperity requires both economic growth.

              Economic growth requires productivity growth and population growth.

              Population growth can be immigration and/or natural births driven.

              We've failed at productivity, and we've failed at stimulating natural population growth, so politicians rely on the easy fix of immigration. They harp on about controlling immigration at election time to get votes, but they rely on immigration for population growth, which they flaunt as their own achievements at election time, and the public easily buy into the contradiction.

              It's like when politicians decrease speed limits on as an easy safety win, rather than correcting the design of the road.

              My original comment above was to just explain that as things are currently, if Australia doesn't have population growth, then we won't have economic growth.

            • +3

              @Wheresmyspaceship: Our entire country's population is less than that of Texas while land size-wise we're almost four-fifths the size of America. It's not that we're unable to support the population, it's failure to engineer the right supporting structure that is failing us. Our inability to plan ahead, and fast-track key developments, and policy failures are what is causing cracks to appear. Even in the Asiatic region where we are at, we are only ranked 6th, are far behind others in terms of developing our own technology and innovation. What are we good at other than digging up own our natural resources? Can this go on forever?

              Under the right policies and infrastructure, a strong population can be an incredible driver of wealth and power for a nation. But I worry about whether our political and justice systems can support such growths. The level of crime in this country especially youth crime is going to impact an entire generation if not checked, but what can we do?

              • @clubhonda: You mean key developments to support a rapidly growing population in the manner to which they are accustomed like lots of water storage dams and high and constant output energy systems?

      • I think it's way more than hundreds of thousands of dollars.

        The architects ultimately owns copyright of the house design.

        Think of it like a book. Each $1 pattern sold the government probably has to pay the architect 10-20k.

        If they negotiated a up front payment with unlimited use expect tens of millions paid to the architects.

        Architects are up there not far from surgeons earning the top salaries.

        • +8

          this is flagrantly false - owners and principals of architecture firms are well paid, sure, but so is anyone else in that position in any field. architects on average are not particularly high earners, especially if you look at hours worked lol.

          further, you are wrong on the govt paying for these. there was a design competition open to anyone. a shortlist was chosen from there, and a selection of participants (around 20) were paid a fee to participate in stage two of the design competition.

          as someone who works in this field (though not as an architect), I can guarantee you that the firms that participated saw this as a business/branding opportunity and would have received very little financial incentive to participate.

          • @jrowls: Makes sense.

            Though I have to say, last time I worked with a NSW government department on something, they had ten people in each of the half-dozen meetings, 9.5 of whom contributed absolutely nothing to the project. So even if architect firms did all the real work for this scheme, hundreds of thousands of tax dollars wasted seems pretty likely.

          • @jrowls: Except if you are a teacher i guess

            • @DrScavenger: @DrScavenger not sure what you mean

              • -1

                @jrowls: but so is anyone else in that position in any field.

                This is absolutely wrong.

                • @DrScavenger: Oh, right. I thought context would suffice but I guess I should have specified that I was referring fields mainly made up of private companies similar to architecture.

      • +3

        see my comment below - this was not a major expense for the government, nor a handout to their 'buddies'. it was a design competition open to all willing participants. the winning firms are not exactly massive players with powerful friends.

    • +1

      Finally everyone can afford a house….virtually.

  • +2

    It sucks that you have to input property details and be ready to go, instead of being able to purchase these for potential use down the track.

    • +1

      You can enter random address for now to check the detail

      • +1

        *and pay for it

      • if you just wanted to have a look. But the licence to use it only applies to the address you entered. You would have to pay again for a different address.

  • +9

    Now if they can also setup the factory to mass produce these at a fix cost for familes.

    • +3

      Right next door to the factory churning out affordable land within a reasonable commuting distance.

      • +4

        Right next door to the factory churning out tradies to build these.

  • Can we use them in other states?

    • +24

      Yes. You can be in an inebriated state, but it's not a requirement.

    • Sure, but you would have to do all the normal legwork of getting an approval in that state (other than the overarching design itself).

      • +3

        Should still save you over $20k in architect and engineering fees.

        If you are happy with the design it's a big win.

        • +7

          For a bespoke home, an architect is at least $80-100k+, engineering around 10-20k, Land survey $3k, then taxes and other fees on top. Multi-res (townhouse, apartments) - way more.

          Source: I'm an architect in Victoria.

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