As cheap as they get nowadays, price matching Coles + a further 10% off via subscribe & save = $1.37/100g. Camels.
Chilli & Lime are great. Also available in Cheesy Nachos; Extreme Cheese hasn't dropped in price yet.
CamelCamelCamel.
not good for keto though :D
They're better than keto
keto ain't good for you
Okay i'll bite. Why is a keto diet not good?
@genericozbargainer: Research shows that ketogenic diets are associated with increased LDL ("bad") cholesterol levels
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7480775/
Multiple studies in children and adolescents show bone abnormalities after ketogenic diet implementation, including altered vitamin D levels, acid loading, and growth retardation
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/nutrition/articles/10.3…
Also nutrient defficiencies such as selenium and magenesium.
Changes in gut microbiota
This being said I will acknowledge there is a lack of long-duration, large, high-quality studies, and poor dietary adherence over the years.
Short term weight loss, long term partially unknown.
you could achieve same or better outcomes on better studied diets.
@blemish412: yeah you really need to look at facts that are actually true. there are many sources that proof this to be wrong and more of it is just big phama trying to miss lead you so you are stuck on there drugs for life. In effect i have never felt more energized and healthy on the keto diet. it remove bad cholesterol (visceral fat) and increases good cholesterol. Also keto has about 400mg a day in magnesium requirement of which i have daily, magnesium is very important to process vit D if you don't have enough magnesium you can process vit D. My Grand parents have been on a keto like diet for almost all there life and they are 95 now with a clean bill of health, so i would look into the latest research on keto it is more benefitable to you than any other diet. Also look long and hard into those studies you will find all the holes in them.
@kungfuman: Look into the details of the research. Also see who funds some of these research, sometimes it is done to arrive at a desired outcome, i.e. pharmaceutical linked.
There are supplemental possibilities on any of the reduction nutrition based on the results of such diet, if required to make up any deficiencies.
@kungfuman: Your comment should be used as a case study in logical fallacies. Argument aside, every sentence written falls apart under logical scrutiny.
"yeah you really need to look at facts that are actually true. there are many sources that proof this to be wrong…"
Appeal to Vague Authority / Proof by Assertion. You mention supporting evidence but never cite it, expecting the reader to accept the claim at face value. When you're faced with evidence above you must counter with evidence. You can't just say you're wrong, or look at the facts, when facts have been provided.
"… it is just big phama trying to miss lead you so you are stuck on there drugs for life"
Ad Hominem. You aim to discredit opposing views, rather than addressing the scientific evidence itself. By attacking the supposed motive of the source, you dismisses any and all counter-evidence without having to analyse it.
"In effect i have never felt more energized and healthy on the keto diet."
"My Grand parents have been on a keto like diet for almost all there life and they are 95 now with a clean bill of health…"
Anectodal evidence. You rely on personal experience and the experience of close relatives as proof of a universal claim. It is not a substitute for rigorous, large-scale scientific study. There could be countless other factors contributing to you, and your grandparents health (genetics, lifestyle, etc.), and there are also many people for whom the keto diet is not suitable or has had negative effects.
"it remove[s] bad cholesterol (visceral fat)…"
Factual Inaccuracy. Cholesterol and visceral fat are two different things. Cholesterol is a waxy, fat-like substance in the blood, while visceral fat is the fat stored deep inside the belly, wrapped around the organs. Conflating the two shows an inherent misunderstanding of the topic.
"Also keto has about 400mg a day in magnesium requirement of which i have daily…"
Anecdotal Fallacy. You are using your personal experience to try and invalidate a general claim about population-level risk. The original point was that keto can lead to magnesium deficiency. The fact that you, successfully meet the requirement does not disprove that there is an established risk for others who follow the diet.
"…magnesium is very important to process vit D if you don't have enough magnesium you can process vit D."
Red Herring. This fact itself is correct, but its purpose here is to distract from the main argument. The original reply raised serious concerns about increased LDL cholesterol and other health risks, which this point completely ignores. By introducing an unrelated, positive fact, you pivot the conversation away from these specific dangers and onto safer ground which gives your position an aura of scientific credibility without actually refuting your opponent's evidence. It is a rhetorical tactic that sidesteps the central issue.
"…so i would look into the latest research on keto it is more benefitable to you than any other diet."
Non Sequitur / Appeal to Vague Authority. The word "so" signals that you are drawing a conclusion from the evidence you've presented. However, your evidence consists entirely of personal anecdotes. It does not logically follow that because you feel good and your grandparents are healthy, keto is therefore the "more benefitable" diet for everyone else. There is also Appeal to Vague Authority by mentioning "latest research" without any citation.
"Also look long and hard into those studies you will find all the holes in them."
Shifting the Burden of Proof. Instead of identifying counters to the studies your opponent cited and presenting your own evidence, you assert that flaws exist and make it the other person's job to find them. Again, when presented with evidence, you must defend with your own evidence. The foundation of a rational debate is to counter evidence with stronger evidence. This is a principle that would avoid all the logical errors you've made here.
@genericozbargainer: Also adherence is a huge factor.
Speaking from someone who did keto properly for 6 months.
Because the best diet is the one someone else is on.
That's like saying steak is no good for being a vegetarian.
Why even bother posting that? They're made from corn, of course they're no good for keto.
These are amazing corn chips. Majority of the family is GF so these have been our go to for a very long time.
delicious but would be worried about amazon delivering these as whole chips rather than crumbs
Pretty sure they'll come in a box delivered the way they are to all the supermarkets
I’d be more worried about this.
Ingredients:
Corn Flour (69%), Vegetable Oil, Chilli and Lime Seasoning (7%) [Sugar, Maltodextrin, Vegetable Powder, Salt, Hydrolised Vegetable Protein, Food Acids (330, 262), Flavour Enhancer (621, 627, 631), Soy Sauce Powder, Yeast Extract, Spice Ground (Chilli Powder), Free Flowing Agent (551), Colour (124), Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil, Natural Extracts (Lime, Celery, Pepper, Paprika)], Water.
This is why they taste so good!!!
@50cent looks good to me !!
what are you worried about?
124
Ponceau 4R (Red Colour)
Synthetic dye
Banned in USA, can cause hyperactivity in children (linked to “Southampton Six”); avoid if sensitive
Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil
Fat stabiliser
May contain trans fats (linked to heart disease); banned in some countries
621
Monosodium Glutamate (MSG)
Flavour enhancer
Can cause ‘MSG symptom complex’ (e.g. headaches, flushing) in sensitive individuals
627
Disodium Guanylate
Flavour enhancer
Often used with MSG, not recommended for infants or asthmatics
631
Disodium Inosinate
Flavour enhancer
Similar to 627, often used with MSG; not suitable for vegans if derived from animal sources
@Nedkellyinthebush: Precursor to readers. The human brain is inherently wired to go into defensive mode when confronted with an opposition as clear as this. I recommend keeping an open mind. Scrutinising an ingredient list is not an act of paranoia but a logical form of personal risk assessment in a complex food environment. Being critical of anyone and anything is healthy to keep powers in check, maintain standards and reduce corruption. This also applies to the large, profit-motivated snacking industry.
The original analysis of the 5 ingredients is a perfect example of this necessary scrutiny. Its emphasis on the "may's" and "can's" highlights a systemic lack of transparency in food product labelling which forces individuals to perform their own risk assessment using incomplete data. The term "Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil" is ambiguous and can refer to two distinct substances:
Because the label alone does not allow a consumer to differentiate between the two, the presence of this ingredient signifies a potential, unquantifiable health risk.
History demonstrates that commercial industries, driven by profit, have often marketed products later found to be harmful. Governmental regulation frequently lags years or decades behind the emergence of scientific evidence of harm. Examples include selling cigarettes for years as safe, and the CEOs of seven major tobacco companies testifying under oath to the US Congress that they did not believe nicotine to be addictive. Or old school cough medicines which contained ingredients now known to be dangerous, like narcotics such as opium, chloroform, and morphine.
This pattern isn't just in ancient history, the issue of trans fats is a perfect modern example.
There is an overwhelming scientific consensus that trans fats derived from Partially Hydrogenated Oils are a significant contributor to cardiovascular disease. Based on this evidence, regulatory bodies like the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) have taken definitive action. The USA effectively banned PHOs from its food supply and the EU has imposed strict legal limits on trans fats in food.
The reason this is so important for Australians is due to the government's official policy. According to Food Standards Australia New Zealand (FSANZ) own 2014 technical evaluation (section 1.2 - Government response to recommendation 13, and section 4 - Conclusions), they decided against mandatory labelling or a ban on industrial trans fats. Their primary justification was that the national average intake (0.6% of energy) is already below the WHO's recommended limit of 1%.
But this reliance on population averages creates a major loophole that fails to protect individuals. It means that while the 'average' Australian might be fine, specific products can still contain these harmful fats without clear warnings. We are left to navigate these 'pockets of risk' on our own.
The 'Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil' in this chip's seasoning is a perfect example of this problem in action. A manufacturer can use this ambiguous term which could conceal harmful trans fats, precisely because our regulations don't force them to be transparent. The government's decision not to act on a national level is what allows this lack of transparency on an individual product level
The burden is thus on the consumer to read ingredient lists, understand what the code numbers mean, and make informed choices due to the less stringent labelling laws (no mandatory trans fat labelling or hyperactivity warnings for certain dyes, etc). When we see ambiguous terms on an ingredient list, we are looking at a potential risk that our own food standards agency has officially decided is not their responsibility to manage for us, placing that job squarely on our shoulders.
They taste really good though. Consume in moderation, if at all.
none
of that sh$t is good for you.
Big fan of the nacho cheese
Old El Paso Nachips used to be the bomb. Shame they discontinued them.
They are available at Coles, reintroduced recently
Thanks!
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Time to find a new place mate.
nice, ordered one of each. amazon shows "nacho cheese" as "tomato cheese" fyi, but it's the same thing.
You guys raw dog this or do you eat it with some kind of sauce? any suggestions?
The chilli and lime were made to be raw dogged, sauce would only tarnish their beauty.
raw dogging it is then, cheers
Raw dog usually.
Feels a bit sacrilegious using them salsa, as they are so good on their own.
They do go amazing dipped into this dukkah hommus (when also on sale)…the Jalapeno hommus is also damn good.
You aren't kidding about as cheap as it gets nowadays. Amazon says the last time I bought this in 2021 it was $2.15, a 46.5% jump in 3-4 years is too much 😭
Thanks OP, bought 3 with S&S.
Used to be a family favourite, until I read the ingredients :(
Uhhh what's wrong with the ingredients?
Lol @ the suspense
turns out they have corn in them
The chilli lime flavour has a food colouring additive that is banned in a few countries. Also the rest of the ingredients, in general, aren't great:
Ingredients:
Corn Flour (69%), Vegetable Oil, Chilli and Lime Seasoning (7%) [Sugar, Maltodextrin, Vegetable Powder, Salt, Hydrolised Vegetable Protein, Food Acids (330, 262), Flavour Enhancer (621, 627, 631), Soy Sauce Powder, Yeast Extract, Spice Ground (Chilli Powder), Free Flowing Agent (551), Colour (124), Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil, Natural Extracts (Lime, Celery, Pepper, Paprika)], Water.
The chilli lime flavour has a food colouring additive that is banned in a few countries.
Lol @ not telling us the name
@cheekymonkey97: Why so hostile mate? You come out nowhere just attacking.
I think you definitely need these chips to lighten up a bit.
NOT SALT!!!
Always stocked up on the 500g packs when they were half-price pre-covid. Will wait for the bulk deal again.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/search/node/Mission%20deli%2050…
🥲🥲🥲
Plain variety is amazing.
beware of Chilli Lime or anything chilli because its chemically tasting red color ymmv though.
If Amazon won't ship to you (or you want your corn chips intact and somehow missed it said in the OP): this is just Amazon price matching Coles, so you can get the same price at your local Coles.
Without the 10% off for subscribe & save, yes. Edit: Sub & save expired now anyway.
I always order 2 or more off Amazon, if you order a single pack you risk them putting it in a satchel instead of a box :P
Great chips and one of the few companies not using palm oil!
Temporarily OOS but still shows same price $3.50 can still buy for that price and will it ship when it’s back in stock
Yeah that's correct, you can cancel if it is taking too long. If you pay by credit card it won't debit your card until it ships, however paying by gift card it does put the balance on hold immediately.
Tried cheesy nachos recently and it was really good!
OOS for me
mmm MSG 😋
Cheap as chips!
Extreme Cheese now available $3.50 ($3.15 sub save).
The G.O.A.T corn chip, perfect thickness, good crunch and right amount of flavour
those chilli limies are my weakness
the best