Was reading this article - ‘Give us a break’: Aussies want more time off
What does the OzB community think and do you support for an extra Public Holiday for NSW and should we standardise public holidays across the country.
" New South Wales, alongside Western Australia, receive just 11 public holidays a year compared to Victoria, Queensland, and South Australia with up to 13 - and Tasmania having the fewest at 10. "
why vote no? it doesn't do any harm to other state?
why vote no?
Because other states hate us
If you’re in the middle or the west you hate the eastern states. If you’re an eastern state that isn't NSW, you hate NSW
I live and studied in SA most my teenage life, and have moved to NSW for a job past 3 years, I don't hate any state and can't imagine why would one want to..
All states think other states think about all the time. Generally, no one cares.
I know, I'm from Victoria, Victorians worry about this more than anyone else on the planet. We think there's a competition between Melbourne and Sydney raging on.
@freefall101: Yeah, real people don't give waste time thinking down on other states; we waste it scrolling through the poison of our choice (Ozbargin, reddit, reels, ticktok, yt etc.)
I don't hate you. I don't like your footy team.
I think most people have better things to worry about that hating various states
@surg3on: exactly, my only gripe is its such a long drive to go there.
vote yes, you never know it might spread to whatever state you are in
For shits and giggles.
I didn't vote. I'll leave it for residents to decide what they want.
If there was an option to vote for consistent nationwide holidays I'd have voted for that.
11 public holidays, 4 weeks annual leave, 10 days sick. not behd
4-day work week please.
Work: deal, but only pay for 4 days
Me: AYO
Thea idea is you get paid as if it were 5. Which his fair enough, it still takes up most days of your waking life. And with AI bringing increased productivity it won't even be a net loss for the company, unless they are a brothel or something.
It will be a loss for the company. Instead of banking extra profits from cutting payroll costs by 20%, they don't get to bank that savings. At least that's how many companies will look at it.
@tenpercent: It won't matter how they look at it if a four day work week becomes the norm or even the law.
@tenpercent: Not really, for the longest period single income was enough, what happened with dual income was the incomes didnt go as fast as cost of living as companies decided they didnt need to increase wages since there was a lot larger workforce to select from.
@lonewolf: Yes that's just supply and demand. Increasing the total workforce by encouraging women to stay in the workforce (downward pressure on wages) and more money (dual income households) chasing things (upward pressure on the price of things).
If anything AI is going to result in a net decrease in total demand for workers (downward pressure on certain wages) and push those displaced workers to fight over the remaining jobs they're capable of (increased demand for remaining jobs —> more downward pressure on wages).
In that situation capital has the upper hand and labour suffers.
No reason for companies to not bank most of the AI productivity gains for themselves, exactly as they have done since 1972.
I'm happy to still work the same number of hours, just shove it in 4 days instead of 5
this, plus that. Max public holidays, add a few more leave types. Should nearly be able to achieve a 3-day week.
Days off, just means you have to work harder on the days you don’t have off!
Working harder makes the day go faster though, the worst days are the ones where you have to find stuff to do so you're not caught slacking.
Would much rather work 5x as hard on Monday and get 6 days off!
yeah, nah.
i vote for universal basic income
Isn't that covered by Unemployment Benefits?
Under that model, you get every day off.
Nah, centrelink has a million restrictions, can't even get a dollar from it if you're in a relationship with someone who earns something around $80k a year.
UBI would be for everyone with no restrictions
can't even get a dollar from it if you're in a relationship with someone who earns something around $80k a year.
Good.
@brendanm: You'd think so, but it's a massive barrier.
A couple with jobseeker and rent assist is getting about $42k annually, plus a million benefits from healthcare card like cheap transport and energy concessions.
The cut-off is actually about $67k, so one person finding full-time work is only a marginal improvement in income, they'd both need to find work to make it a worthwhile change.
@Jolakot: Yep, so then people get stuck in the trap of going back to work can make them not any better off in the short term. Plus the amount of administrative burden of the limits. If there was a $30k ubi and the percaptia tax rate was increased enough to pay that (minus the savings of not paying all the different benefit schemes and wasting time chasing them) it would be so much simpler and progressive.
communist party FTW?
UBI upholds the status quo and has nothing to do with communism. Search the web for details
UBI is unsustainable once too many people become permanently unemployable due to them being in the lower quartile of the IQ bell curve and advancements in AI and robotics.
@tenpercent: You know there'll always be a lower quartile of the IQ curve right? It's a standardised measure.
@smalltime0: Yes. You know you completely missed the point, right? I suspect even a few of those in the current lower quartile got it.
Do you honestly think the elites will allow people to live on their dime with UBI? The population would be drastically cut and contraception/sterilisation brought in. Idle people have more time to commit crime.
Idle people have more time to commit crime
or post on ozbargain …
or breed
Free money for everyone 👍
Yes! No age,disabled job seeker payments - just UBI for any one who is a Australia resident for 18 years till they die.
Tax the easy big money business like mining, land sub dividing and international giants(apple etc) hard to pay for it all. Maybe increase the GST?
Most of us will still be working as the UBI wouldn't be the lifestyle most of us would want but at least it would be fair for everyone
Plus alot of the government/public servants wouldn't be needed anymore to police/control the pension/UBI
we need 14
to 1 up the rest!
Idk why everyone has to work so much. Surely we can produce all we need without having to work 40 hours a week. Seems very artificial to me. Very Parkinson’s Law-esque.
I marvel at how complicated we've made everything. Need multiple offices full of people and millions of dollars a year in software subscriptions just to do bookkeeping for a non profit organisation.
It’s almost as if “the system” is set up to squeeze out every last drop of productivity and labor from The Proles, flowing it all upward into the bottomless coffers of the the greedy rulers. All the while providing in return the minimal level of compensation, entertainment and distractions, just enough so people don’t question the status quo too much and maybe start thinking about revolutionising the entire system.
I think we need a reverse bank holiday. Make bank employees work while the rest of us get the day off.
This is absolutely brilliant.
We dont need public holidays. We just need every Friday off.
I just took a sickie today and tomorrow to give myself more time off
In general everyone would benefit from more time off.
We should all be doing 4 days or less of work but getting paid the same. (profanity) the stupid grind mentality, life's too short to be working.
All states should be the same, simple and fair.
Highly doubt 1 public holiday is going to do much for the 'burnout crisis' but otherwise, yeah go for it.
11 or 13 is not going to make much of a difference to anyone.
Did you count the NSW Bank Employees (Public) Holiday? First Monday of Aug, coming up on 4th Aug 25.
Did i miss something are 'Aussies' only in NSW now?
Pubhols are a PITA. Getting leave off when absolutely everyone else does as well just means paying phol surcharges, packed venues, and many services and shops closed. Also half your coworkers have taken a break either side of the phol, so productivity basically shuts off for a week. I actually wish we’d get rid of all public holidays altogether - and just give everyone the equivalent extra flex leave.
I don't mind more weekends as I work and get weekends penalty rate 😀
Nice to have, sure, but not needed. Probably detrimental - there's a serious productivity crisis in this country.
If you're unfortunate enough to live in the mega shithole known as new mumbai (the city previously called Sydney), you deserve an extra day off.
I just want to retire…
and should we standardise public holidays across the country.
I'm not sure about this. I think it'd be good, but the increased competition for flights/short holiday destinations would probably skyrocket causing prices to be jacked up.
I feel like everyone in NSW will vote yes and all others states will vote no.