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PowerColor Radeon RX 9070 XT Reaper 16GB Graphics Card $1149 Shipped / VIC C&C @ PC Case Gear

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Love letter to my SFF people out there. I thought they had stopped producing them in favour of more expensive cards… It's not a super cheap 9070 XT per se, but I feel it's a good price for those specifically after the only real 2-slot 9070 XT! And remains the current cheapest on PCCGs site at least. Hellhound has been 1099, but remains not as SFF friendly.

Most of the others don't fit my case (original NCase M1 V1).. Sadly I have not the funds to nab one currently, but hope this helps someone else!

…I also realised after posting: username checks out :P

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  • +2

    Nice, I was waiting for this to come down to this price since my Meshify C mini case could only take up to 313mm card. I ended up buying Asus Prime for the same price couple of days ago, which is 312mm length, super tight fit had to twist some stuff to move it inside the case. This Reaper would have been much easier.
    Also this has 2 x 8pin (asus prime use 3 x 8pin), so it could be used to on those 550/650w PSU with only 2 PCIe ports (technically could use pig tail cables for 3 x 8 pin, but most likely would cause instability at some point).

    • Yeah.. I had a 1070 Strix in my ncase, and the height of the card hit the side mounts for the case. My 3060 ti gigabyte actually fits much better. Most cards for me, the height where the top of the card hits the side/PCIE connector considerations is a big blocker for me. Ive got a 750W Corsair plat SFX so presumably I'd be right with most cards minus like a 5090 heh.

    • +1

      I've been running this with a 9800X3D on a Corsair SF600 Platinum without issue (I did undervolt the GPU slightly to get better thermals / speeds), but haven't had any instability from what I recall

      • Do you run two PCIe cables or one cable with a pig tail? Two cables should be stable, but if one cable is used, it could be unstable on an overclock or even just stock, but under heavy load (RT games). The annoying part with a pig tail is that once a problem occurs, you're left wondering if it's because of that or because of an unstable overclock/undervolt.

    • is this better than my nvidia 5070 TI 16gb?

      • +1

        Depends on games, they should be similar in performance. I would have bought 5070 ti if it was between $1100-1200 for a decent model. I like amd software, but global dlss overrides (via inspector) are just better and easier, and works with anti cheat games.

        • -1

          hdcp can also be turned over easy on an AMD no idea why nvidia screw you on this? i had to run commands.

    • -2

      Why is there always one comment describing their pc journey… nobody cares.

      • +2

        Uhm ok? Dont read my comment then. Mostly would like to share the reaper pros over other compact models like asus prime or giagbyte gaming.

  • +8

    These are small? Shit how huge are the normal cards.

    • +2

      Ha yeah! Most are 2.5 slot minimum these days, or have extra height that makes them annoying for some smaller ITX cases.

    • +6

      Most cards are 2.5-3 slots, and around 330mm. XFX Mercury is a monstrosity at 360mm (also the absolute best performing 9070 XT card)

      • +1

        Looks like im going to have to check the Gpu length specs on my case. Never had to do that before

        • +2

          Definitely! The 300+w cards put out these days gotta go somewhere. Hence massive coolers heh

    • Reminds me of the new definition of "small" mobile phones …

      "Back in my day" (lol) SFF was actually small :P

  • +7

    yeah I was just about to post this myself… here's hoping they haven't actually discontinued this Reaper model, once this hits the ~$1K AUD mark I'll bite

    • +5

      Yeah that's the like… 'deal' I've made with myself (…and my mate is holding me to it heh) - once it's like 999 I gotta buy. Running 3440x1440 with a 3060 Ti is getting harder with any game that requires decent VRAM lol.

      • +1

        Hah I feel your pain! Also playing game on ultrawide. I upgraded from 3080 10GB. I had to turn texture to low/medium most new games which sucks, regret not paying $150 extra for the 12gb version which would have lasted for another year or 2.

        • +1

          Me with a 1660ti not being jealous at both of you.

          • @Fergy1987: Should seriously consider the 9060 XT 16GB tbh for a kinda mid range but still rather large upgrade!

  • -7

    9070 xt has power consumption issues in certain games (e.g. PUBG, Warzone, Khazan) unable to run full load

    • +2

      Oh interesting.. Source?

      I've been playing PUBG with mates recently but I'd honestly lock the frame cap to my monitors refresh regardless… (Not vsync just framerate limit).

      I also undervolt my cards regardless, so I wonder if this would still be an issue then.

      • -5

        My card + multiple reports on Reddit.
        Power draw is capped at 100W when you enable V-Sync
        no issues when you do GPU testing.
        4K 165hz monitor

        • +3

          Couldn't you just use in-game framerate caps rather than vsync, force global v sync off in settings? To avoid this. (I realise a workaround for a new gpu isnt the greatest but I'm sure there's something that could be done)

          Or does it also affect VRR/freesync

          • @ReaperX22: maybe this is just me but my eyes can't handle any games without vsync. just not smooth enough without it.

            • +4

              @tc423: That.. feels completely opposite to anything I've heard in a while.

              V Sync should smooth it out, sure, but also introduce pretty noticeable input latency. GSync/Freesync added the benefit of vsync (no tearing) with the ability to be adaptive/fluctuate frames, but perhaps you're referring to frame timing issues if it's not VSyncd..? (if fps drops, but 4k 165hz v sync sounds like a tall ask for a lot of games)

              • @ReaperX22: With V-Sync on, GPU power draw is capped at 100W, fluctuating between 100–120Hz in PUBG. With V-Sync off, the GPU runs at full load and can easily get 165Hz but blinds my eyes.

                • +3

                  @tc423: That's.. not V Sync then..? If your monitor is 165hz, V sync would be 165hz or some division of it. From memory it's usually half the full range.

                  (Tbh, 100w, 100-120fps in Pubg is kinda sick. That's a lot of performance per watt at 4k. Sounds like a boon to me LOL).

                  V-sync locking power target somewhat makes sense, because you're only asking it to perform at 'x' level to hit the vsync target (which.. again, should be 165hz, not 120). Though specifically 100w and not any other number is def a driver issue.

                  • @ReaperX22: I thought vsync locks monitor fps or am I wrong all the time?
                    I run all low settings except 1-2 ultra.

                    • +2

                      @tc423: VSync is about locking the FPS of your GPU output to your monitors refresh rate. Basically if your GPU wants to output 200fps, but your screen is 165hz, you're telling the GPU to wait so the monitor can 'catch-up' - this is what creates the input lag/latency. Adaptive (variable refresh) is a monitor tech that allows the monitor to talk to the GPU and say 'hey whats your frames bro? '90fps!' 'sweet I'll change my refresh to 90hz' and it does this every frame refresh or whatever so you don't get tearing (where GPU is presenting too many frames and monitor can't keep up, opposite to VSync, assuming you're always over target framerate)

                      V-Sync was massively more prevalent when everyone had 60hz monitors and wanted no tearing/reduction of power use (if on 60hz monitor, why run at 200fps ya know?).

                      Though anecdotally, there's some frame timing stuff and input latency reduction the higher the frames..? I tended to lock to 120fps at 60hz, personally, before I got higher refresh rate).

                      EDIT: I don't know if the concept of vsync changed, though, with the introduction of variable refresh rate.. In theory you could set a vsync cap to 120hz on a 165hz monitor…? Like if the monitors native is 165, but variable can be lower, why couldnt you? (I don't know, this is a question lol).

                      • +1

                        @ReaperX22: Thanks for this. My monitor supports 48–165Hz VRR, but I’m unable to verify it as I’ve already sold that card. I was thinking it might have been a driver issue.
                        or it could be related to my setup - running dual 4k monitors (144hz + 60hz) through a TB4 dock which might caused the problem? However, I have this setup for 3 years and previously with 4070super this wasn't an issue.

        • +1

          Had to install PUBG just to verify this lol. No problem on my card, with vsync on/off.

          Although… I have always disabled V-Sync every since I started using gsync/vsync monitors and cap my fps around 90% of monitor max fps (eg. 160fps on 175hz monitor). I get the most out of my monitor this way while saving power on lighter games.

          • @Kingduytan: is your card with 3x8pin or 2x8pin?

            • @tc423: It's Asus Prime so 3x8pin. I also put a global power limit -20%.

              Now… in PUBG if I turned down settings to low, my GPU only use around 100W to hit buttery smooth 165fps…

    • +4

      This comment summarises why you don't trust comments on the internet.

      Read a bit further down and it becomes clear he has zero clue (does not even know what vsync is) and doesn't even own the card

    • +2

      All negs

      if you solved my issue, be my guest. But if this wasn’t your issue, please don’t assume it doesn’t exist.

      See April test result

      Reddit 1

      Resdit 2

      • +2

        In your April test result, it shows the game is steady at 142 fps. I think there's a fps limit somewhere either in game or in driver, or a vsync on a 144hz monitor.

        I tested PUBG yesterday. with capped frame below max refresh rate or vsync, my card doesnt need more than 100w to hit target frame. If uncapped it reach full power and 300+ fps.

        Similar pattern seems to be discussed in reddit, so i highly suspect many are consufed with the fps cap/vsync settings and messed up somewhere.

        Edit - you also mention you have 4k 165hz monitor. Many monitors like that run 144hz by default, or limited by bandwith (ports/cables) so it does seems to align with ur fps and power draw

        • Yeah, 165Hz was boosted from 144Hz in game mode. I wouldn’t complain if it gives me a steady 144Hz; however, it doesn’t and fluctuates to as low as 100Hz.

          my setup - running dual 4k monitors (144hz + 60hz) through a TB4 dock.

          I thought that bandwidth was the issue until I switched to 5070 Ti and never looked back.

          • @tc423: I wouldn't advise anyone to run a gaming monitor through any kind of dock, it's just an additional point of failure. AMD cards do have weird issues with multi-monitor setups that have different refresh rates. I'm glad the 5070 Ti did away with all the hassle for you, though.

    • wow people still play pubg and warzone? lol

  • I paid 1350 for mine, but have been having some BSOD's that I didn't previously have with my nvidia card.

    YMMV

    • +6

      did you fully uninstall all the Nvidia drivers properly (preferrably a rebuilt as Nvidia drivers are like a virus).

      • +9

        This.

        I had some driver issues swapping from a GTX 1070 to a 7800 XT on my bros PC. Ran the base uninstaller, and then DDU like twice, before it all stabalised. Re-did chipset drivers too just in case. Seemed stable after that

        • +4

          Yeah, Nvidia drivers never seem to clean up properly (possibly even on purpose so people encounter issues when switching to AMD). Most times it just needs a DDU to properly get rid of Nvidia drivers for everything to work properly.

      • Did this, I think I still have the problem.

        Tried to do it twice and reinstall drivers. Not sure if it's the Asus itx motherboard

    • +2

      did you run DDU to fully remove all the old nvidia drivers?

    • +1

      From experience, BSOD after switching GPU could also come down to BIOS settings, e.g., unstable CPU OC, RAM XMP, or even PCIe/io settings. I always reset BIOS and Windows after major component swaps like CPU, GPU, RAM, MB, etc.

  • +1

    Damn, that beats the $1171 one I paid on pre-order at launch! Wish I'd used the price protection cc but figured a graphics card was unlikely to go down in the current market! haha

    Great card, decent overclocker for what it is too

    • Was it the Sapphire Pulse 9070XT on the NZ website?

  • Are there any compatability issues with an AMD card instead of Nvidia?

    • +6

      This is a bit of a vague question. Compatibility with… What exactly? Case? Power Supply? Some specific software or..?

      Only major tip is if you're swapping from/to either party is do a full DDU graphics driver uninstall! To ensure no lingering driver issues.

      • +1

        yes very vague!! … good on you for helping out regardless :)

      • You're right, very vague!
        Software is what I'm curious about, pretty much Windows & Games. Would there be games that don't play nicely with AMD cards or the biggest risk is that on some titles performance might be slightly down compared to a team green card.

        • +8

          Generally speaking, in short, yes.

          Windows not so much, but some games absolutely favour Nvidia OR AMD. It's best to look at comparison youtube vids. Hardware Unboxed for example (aussie reviewers) do quite a lot of 'lots of games tested' reviews for various graphics cards, cpus, and combos of both. It'll give you an idea of what performs best based on your choice of games. (Edit, there's also allegedly some nvidia driver overhead? with the 5000 series, Hardware Unboxed has mentioned this several times too, I haven't really looked into it, though)

          I would say I've had issues with both nvidia and amd drivers in the past (minor for both, for me personally), but some others will swear by a particular team. YMMV unfortunately.

        • +5

          There are issues on both AMD and NV right now. NV has some weird drivers lately, while AMD has been pretty good but not perfect.

          Just tell yourself, “at least it’s not intel”.

  • +2

    Weren't there fan noise or vibration issues on these models? 👀

    • +2

      Some coil whine I think. Pauls Hardware did a review on the Reaper models but I've not watched it. Vibration might be able to be fixed with some makeshift supports/screw tightening? Who knows XD

    • +3

      i don't have fan noise or vibration or coil whine on mine, however the vram does hit about 88-90c on the curve i have setup, the out of the box fan curve is on the very silent side so it can run hotter across the board and lower boosts. Mine also doesn't undervolt that well so YMMV in that area.

      It's an ok card, typical of RRP cards very basic, it's a good card for SFF builds otherwise if there's a better cooled card it may be best to go with those.

      Also coil whine can also have a lot to do with the incoming power, i've seen examples that have said they have coil whine and once moved to another location (different house) this goes away… so in coil whine side of things ymmv there as well.

    • +2

      The fans on my one were really bad, they made a whirring/whine noise that would fill the entire room with the sound every time they kicked on. It wasn't coil whine because it stopped if I stuck my fingers in the fans. So I hope they fixed it now for everyone getting one - I had to exchange mine for a Gigabyte Gaming OC which is much wider and 3x8 pin but no annoying fan noise or coil whine thankfully. Other than that it's a simple card but it has a nice quality look and feel to it that I didn't expect from the cheapest 9070 xt card on the market and I would have kept it otherwise

      • same i had two units, both with fan issues, not sure if the newer batches have resolved this.

  • +3

    SFF FTW

  • would this fit qbx cougar?

    • Probably. Pending on your psu size and cabling I think? Probably just best to check dimensions.

  • +3

    very nice, we are finally back to release date pricing. Get this card and play BF6. I can crank everything to ultra, no upscaling or fake frames and get around 100fps at 3440*1440.

    • You're very very much tempting me to YOLO this purchase based on that alone.. I moved from 2560x1440 to 3440x1440 recently, so reading that makes me wanna make the jump heh. But I suppose I could probably still hit 80+ easily enough with my 3060 Ti with some upscaling/medium/high settings combo.. My GPU ain't dead yet!

      • Also playing on ultrawide 1440p, targeting 100fps. On my 3080, I had to turn down settings to low/medium on quite a few games to hit 100fps (Remnant II and Lords of the Fallen, for example… all low settings and still the fps wasn't stable). I'm sensitive to motion in general, so I can't stomach anything lower than that. This is what's prompting me to upgrade. So far, it's been worth it (well, just two days, but we'll see, lol).

        On upscaling, lots of recent games look like puke on native TAA. DLSS4 and FSR4 quality are almost always superior when available.

        • Yeah I use DLSS on pretty much every game that supports it tbh. In highest quality mode it's basically free FPS and very rarely functionally any graphical issues (or at least none that take me out of the experience).

          I hate that upscaling is where all the performance uplift comes these days from BUT there's something to be said about this tech keeping older tech more relevant for longer!

  • $1149 is MSRP for the 9070 XT in Australia. With the 5070 TI currently available for $1399 locally, this price for the 9070 XT is much better value.

    • +1

      The rrp is actually $1139, so this is still above RRP..

      the cheapest it is been withou a fancy coupon is $1099 here for the hellhound model..
      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/915865

      • Well, I appreciate you telling me. I never saw a card below $1149 at launch, so I assumed that was the MSRP. My bad.
        And yes, that was a fantastic deal for the Hellhound model.

  • -1

    Why should we appreciate them for adjusting the price to even $10 more than its RRP? I got this card for $1139 at launch

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