Melbourne: Car Theft Capital of Australia

mboy on 04/09/2025 - 22:10
Last edited 04/09/2025 - 22:17

The Insurance Council of Australia is the main industry body representing Australia’s general insurers, and an source for industry data and insights.

They issued a news release today about motor theft claims statistics, broken down by state & region for the first 6 months of 2025, compared to the first 6 months of 2024. Source.

Across both Metro & Country combined, every state recorded a modest decrease, except for Victoria which recorded an increase of 59%. The news release says Victoria "saw the largest annual increase on record", but they don't mention how far back that goes.

Melbourne alone, which was already the worst city for this statistic in the first half of 2024, has recorded an increase of 70% in the first half 2025.

State Region 2024 2025 Variance %
NSW Country 3,500 3,200 -9%
NSW Metro 2,500 2,600 4%
QLD Country 4,100 3,600 -12%
QLD Metro 3,000 2,700 -10%
SA Country 300 200 -33%
SA Metro 1,200 1,100 -8%
VIC Country 1,800 2,200 22%
VIC Metro 5,900 10,100 70%
WA Country 1,100 1,000 -9%
WA Metro 3,500 3,100 -11%

My motivation for this post is twofold:

Firstly, just to let fellow Melbournians know to be a bit more cautious since this is obviously a problem that is getting worse.

Secondly, to discuss why this is happening. It seems very odd to me that this is exclusively getting worse in Victoria, and especially Melbourne. What's the cause, and what needs to change?

Automotive Melbourne Victoria

Comments

      • Muppet Detector on 09/09/2025 - 19:04
        +1

        Did you know that only about 50% of murders ever get solved?

        • [Deactivated] on 09/09/2025 - 19:09

          I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s less.
          Is that why Erin was such a win for the Vicpol? (3x people dead, easy win and guaranteed conviction) - boosted their stats for the easy slam dunk.

          • Muppet Detector on 09/09/2025 - 19:17
            +1

            @[Deactivated]: I think women offenders of that nature tend to get more media attention than men.

            I think people are more shocked when a female commits such violent unusual crimes.

            She (Erin) was pretty extreme and according to her sentencing hearing, not a very clever criminal.

            Remember Katherine Knight? Rosemary West?

            Another lady today allegedly murdered her two kids, stuck them in suitcases and then put the suitcases in a storage facility and stopped paying.

            Eventually, the contents of her storage facility were treated as abandoned goods and auctioned off.

            • [Deactivated] on 09/09/2025 - 19:35

              @Muppet Detector: I’d say generally the public likes to see wins and from a propaganda perspective - the police really highlight “the wins” (or at least the easy ones).
              This one highlights some of the issues with propaganda in policing (draw your own conclusions etc) but entertaining nonetheless

              https://youtu.be/DNy6F7ZwX8I

              • Muppet Detector on 09/09/2025 - 19:38

                @[Deactivated]:

                I’d say generally the public likes to see wins and from a propaganda perspective

                Not so much for the public benefit, but the wins are good opportunities for the criminal justice system stakeholders to say "see, we are doing something".

                It's public relations.

  • Far Cough on 05/09/2025 - 07:31

    We need a poll.

    Has your car been stolen

  • ForkSnorter on 05/09/2025 - 08:01
    -3

    It's because Melbourne is so ugly, cold and windy in winter, it p*sses people off, so they steal cars to compensate.

  • MrThing on 05/09/2025 - 08:01
    +12

    Go to Melbourne, got my car stolen, got sliced up by a machete and got beaten up by neo Nazis with an Australian flag

    0/10 wouldn't visit again

    • 87percent on 05/09/2025 - 08:17
      +2

      Did you at least go to Revs?

    • brendanm on 05/09/2025 - 08:36
      +10

      All the perpetrators were released on bail as it was only their 63rd offence, they really aren't going to reoffend this time.

    • tenpercent on 05/09/2025 - 10:36
      +3

      Did you happen to be in Melbourne dressed in all black + face mask (i.e. antifa gang member) and amongst a group of people spitting on old ladies and bashing up elderly immigrants?

      • MrThing on 05/09/2025 - 13:04
        -1

        bashing up elderly immigrants?
        i.e. antifa gang member

        this is exactly the polar opposite of what antifa stand for, but yeah sure.

        I think you're looking more for your mates who are currently sitting in a police jail cell

        • tenpercent on 06/09/2025 - 10:52

          I'm referencing this brazen assault, and others.

          • MrThing on 06/09/2025 - 12:16
            -2

            @tenpercent: Well you're just referencing one

            Where are the others?

            Avi is an agitator anyway, no better than the neo Nazis on the more extreme end of the same spectrum

      • smartazz104 on 05/09/2025 - 13:27
        -1

        i.e. antifa gang member

        Don't tell us your profa?

        • tenpercent on 06/09/2025 - 10:53
          -1

          I won't because I'm not.
          Always the black and white thinking with you lot.

    • BadGiraffe on 08/09/2025 - 17:21

      But the coffee though…

  • 7ekn00 on 05/09/2025 - 09:06

    Secondly, to discuss why this is happening

    LOL you vote for soft on crime politicians, you get increased crime … it aint rocket surgery :/

  • holdenmg on 05/09/2025 - 09:15
    +4

    I remember when Grand Theft Auto was a Video Game but now it has gone mainstream…

    • smartazz104 on 05/09/2025 - 13:30
      +1

      We got RL GTA before GTA 6…

  • Shame on 05/09/2025 - 09:15
    +8

    "I'm proud that Victoria has some of the hardest working, diverse, and most innovative criminals in Australia." - some politician in the near future

    • OzzyOzbourne on 05/09/2025 - 09:19
      +2

      They will have a league table of how many violent crimes can be committed without every seeing the inside of a cell

    • smartazz104 on 05/09/2025 - 13:30
      +1

      They'd be talking about themselves no doubt…

  • shaybisc on 05/09/2025 - 09:17
    +10

    That Vic Metro 70% increase is, at face value and without explanation, unbelievable.

    • mboy on 05/09/2025 - 11:02
      +3

      This was my main motivation for the post. Despite some well rounded explanations in some of the comments, I'm still struggling to wrap my head around why it seems we're so disproportionally affected.

      • Muppet Detector on 09/09/2025 - 19:07

        Anything to do with population concentration?

  • OzzyOzbourne on 05/09/2025 - 09:17
    +18

    If you can chop off someone's hand in public and be out on bail within hours then why not steal cars too?
    We're being forced to accept and normalise this abhorrent behaviour, much of which is committed by people we're funding with tax dollars to try to give them a better life, but because they are from a disadvantaged background we have to be lenient on them and chopping off people's hands, slashing people with machetes, stealing etc etc has to be accepted.
    Hurty words are the flavour of the day and the priority of the government, not actual life changing (or life ending) violence.
    Look at the UK for where we are quickly heading.

    • tenpercent on 05/09/2025 - 11:10
      +4

      "If you can chop off someone's hand in public and be out on bail within hours then why not steal cars too?"

      That would be a good front page headline for a story examining this issue.

      Look at the UK for where we are quickly heading.

      Yes, let's look at the UK. Too much immigration too quickly (plus rubbing salt in and deliberately generating animosity by giving them rockstar treatment with free exclusive-access hotels, free mobile phones, free laptops, free clothes, excessive weekly cost of living stipends that are much higher than what UK pensioners have to survive on) is being used as the excuse for an "as mandatory as possible" Digital ID. No Digital ID? No work! Does that sound familiar to anyone?

      In Australia we don't have the illegal immigration issue as much now, so instead they are using an influx of unwelcome immigration plus the use of government assets planted inside white nationalist groups to stir up racial animosity and try to give the impression that the handful of neo-nazis are a much bigger problem than they really are. And let's not even consider using existing laws to deal with this.

      We will see in the coming weeks and months a ramp up and extension of the online verification laws which will in effect lead to "as mandatory as possible" Digital ID to be able to access and use large sections of the internet for all people; not enough people bought the "it's to protect the kids" story so here we are with the "it's to stop the far right extremist terrorists" narrative.
      There will also be modifications to the rules banks have to adhere to for anti-money laundering and terrorism purposes (of course!) which will be translated by most (if not all) of the banks to mean that you need Digital ID to access your bank accounts. Send us a selfie! Show us your iris! Where's your fingerprints! Papers please!!

      Unfortunately too many ordinary Australians who protested last weekend also booed the obvious controlled oppositon neo-nazis who attempted to hijack and take the spotlight at many of the events around the country, so they didn't get the headlines they were really after. So, phase 2 will be a possible false flag event involving the 'neo-nazis' on the 13th September 2025 and that will be used to further catalyse this Orwellian and (ironically) fascist process.

    • 7ekn00 on 05/09/2025 - 13:03

      Only if you vote for it :/

  • shaybisc on 05/09/2025 - 09:28
    +1

    "If you can chop off someone's hand in public and be out on bail within hours then why not steal cars too?"

    Is that a recent Melbourne rule? Different to last year? Even if I accept the premise that Melbourne is a lawless hellscape it does not account for a 70% increase, unless it wasn't a lawless hellscape in 2024.

    • Iwantthebestprice on 05/09/2025 - 13:45
      +2

      No it was a lawless hellscape in 2024, it’s just become a far worse lawless hellscape in 2025. I feel people know their time is running out and the public hasfinally had enough (took them long enough!) and the government will start acting soon, so will get worst before it gets better.

      I use to think what does it take someone to die before the government steps in, we’ve now had people killed by out of control cars driven by kids and nothing has changed.

      Victoria is a socialist hell hole and if I didn’t have family ties here my partner and I would move to Sydney in a heartbeat, would happily drop an extra $300K on a house there too.

  • Porker on 05/09/2025 - 09:40
    +7

    Good luck for any home-owner or victim trying to defend themselves - the judicial system will likely kick in to overdrive at that point (against you).

    • OzzyOzbourne on 05/09/2025 - 11:59
      +7

      There was a guy who caught someone breaking into his house, sprayed them with pepper spray (or similar) and so he was arrested.

      Another guy didn't try to protect his family and property, but got slashed with a machete.

      So the innocent victim's options are… Get arrested or get life threatening injuries, whereas there's no punishment for the perpetrators

      • Muppet Detector on 09/09/2025 - 19:27

        There was a guy who caught someone breaking into his house, sprayed them with pepper spray (or similar) and so he was arrested.

        Surely they were both arrested?

        Assault isn't reasonable force for defence of home, only defence of self or others.

        We don't have Castle Law in Australia.

        If you do assault someone, you still need to be arrested, but if it was not excessive and done in self defence or defence of others, these are valid legal defences which excuse the crime.

        Another guy didn't try to protect his family and property, but got slashed with a machete.

        Law permits him to defend himself and others.

        Surely dude with machete was arrested?

        So the innocent victim's options are… Get arrested

        If you commit a crime, you will be arrested, but if that crime was legal authorisation, justification or excuse, you shouldn't be convicted.

        get life threatening injuries,

        You are allowed to defend yourself and others.

        Dude who did the slashing would have been arrested if caught.

        whereas there's no punishment for the perpetrators

        So who are all those people over populating our jails etc?

  • GordonD on 05/09/2025 - 10:27
    +8

    The accepted wisdom is that burglary is linked to drug use. Druggies need to find money to pay for their habit. And car theft is linked to youth unemployment. Kids who don't have the background, education, motivation or ability for some other reason to get a job are disproportionately responsible for car thefts.

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02673843.2023.2…

    So you see a big problem with car thefts for joyriding in Aboriginal communities. You don't see it in those people who come here themselves from other countries. But you do see it in their children, particularly those who came as refugees rather than on the merit of what they can bring to this country, and you see it where their language, religious and racial origins created obstacles for the parents getting good jobs so they grew up poor, and where those same obstacles create the same problems for them. So to the degree it occurs it isn't going to show up in statistics that differentiate between locals and immigrants, because what we are talking about here is the local-born children of immigrants.

    Each generation of refugees from wherever they had to flee from has been associated with a different crime problem in their children. Its the same problem we already have with Aboriginal children and aren't dealing any better with with them. Parents who themselves don't "fit", and depend on welfare, raise children who don't see themselves as fitting any better and gang up with other "outsiders" like themselves for support. It simply isn't working just giving people welfare and expecting them to raise children who are motivated to get the education and have the attitudes to go get a job, and doubly so when they see and experience prejudice against them because they are "different". Its all well and good to accept refugees and hand out support payments, but we don't follow it up.

    • kraigg on 06/09/2025 - 03:18
      +3

      I wonder what's stopping Aboriginal children from settling down, getting jobs, being productive, and relying less on welfare? They've been here for generations, so they already have so many advantages that most new migrants do not have. Refugees have had to leave their home countries, language, and culture behind, and start over in a new country at the bottom with almost nothing. Not that this should be an excuse to commit crimes.

      • JIMB0 on 06/09/2025 - 08:04

        A lot of them have made a career out of extracting maximum value from government schemes. I worked for a woke company who set out to fill à position with an Aboriginal person once. Hardly any of them wanted the job when they realised they'd have to show up each day and lose their government benifits.

      • Muppet Detector on 09/09/2025 - 19:30

        I wonder what's stopping Aboriginal children from settling down, getting jobs, being productive, and relying less on welfare?

        Seriously?

    • Muppet Detector on 09/09/2025 - 21:05

      Gordon, kudos for an exceptionally insightful post.

      Just adding, if a parent didn't have good parenting role models themselves, they may not instinctively know how to parent their own children effectively.

      This extends to what the parent perceives to have value. If parent doesn't value education for example, their kids may not realise that the education they can access has value for their lifestyles.

      Not all kids have access to the same education and not all kids have access to the kind of education that is valued in their community.

  • IcySpicyStew on 05/09/2025 - 10:28
    +7

    It is actually crime rate in general

    Victorian crime at highest rate since 2016, driven by car thefts and young offenders
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-20/victoria-crime-car-th…

    and there is a shortage of vicpol recruitment
    https://www.noticer.news/victoria-police-recruitment-crisis/

    you can expect less qualified police out in force
    https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/crime/victoria-pol…

    and a vicpol leadership crisis
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-02/future-leadership-of-…

    many people think it's about bail laws being too soft but the reality is the operation and management of vicpol and the justice system that is currently in crisis from multiple angles
    I expect things to get worse before it gets better

    • shaybisc on 05/09/2025 - 11:02
      +1

      I remember reading the dean of Deakin Law School after the Tough Bail Bill passed. She said that it is very likely that in coming years half of the prisoners in Victoria will be on remand.

      • IcySpicyStew on 05/09/2025 - 11:03
        +1

        vicpol cant even find 1 man desi freeman it's been over a week since the police killings.

        but they did manage to catch and charge the leader of neo-nazi group - with minor violence offenses.

        incompetent

        • tenpercent on 05/09/2025 - 11:19
          -2

          vicpol cant even find 1 man desi freeman it's been over a week since the police killings.

          Do we really believe they're that incompetent?

          If I were writing a screenplay: they either shot Mr Freeman or captured and beat him to a pulp and died in custody. He's already dead at the hands of the cops. However it happened an autopsy would reveal excessive force was used and some cops would ultimately end up in prison themselves. So now they're fabricating a manhunt (wasting the time of real taxpayer funded police officers who are not in on it) and at the end of the charade he will end up burned alive in a fire at his secret hideout and it won't be obvious that he was murdered.

          It would be one of those boutique indie films because there won't be a warm fuzzy ending to leave the audience with a sense of relief.

          • IcySpicyStew on 05/09/2025 - 11:21
            +2

            @tenpercent: I was going to say you watch a lot of hollywood movies don't you…..

            we? I know they are.

            you realize the ADF have had to come support vicpol on this one. makes vicpol look like security guards.

            • tenpercent on 05/09/2025 - 11:24

              @IcySpicyStew: Wait. So the ending of the screenplay should be something like: the cops really are completely incompetent and the guy on the run turns himself in on camera so he won't get beaten to a pulp (straight away)?

              Or something like this (more Hollywood style for you): the cops really are completely incompetent and the guy on the run sails off into the sunset under an assumed alias using a passport purchased on the dark web, but only after a kung fu fight scene with the chief detective chasing him?

          • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2025 - 21:39

            @tenpercent: I believe they’re probably more focused on easy crimes like:
            Minor drunk driving offenses - poor bloke is 0.051 over the limit
            Alternatively
            3km over the speed limit
            To meet KPI’s

            • tenpercent on 06/09/2025 - 11:33

              @[Deactivated]: Hopefully "catching gunman / cop killer / murderer" contributes more to KPI than "issued 1000 minor traffic fines".

              • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2025 - 11:52

                @tenpercent: I don’t think that’s how it works in the public service.
                It’s normally the amount of time you’re there as opposed to results - which is why there is no benefit for those to push themselves to build efficiencies or do more than they need to.

              • Muppet Detector on 09/09/2025 - 21:09

                @tenpercent: I'm thinking different departments handle different types of crimes. I don't think it's a one size fits all thing.

                Doubtful the dude issuing parking fines is from the same section as drug crimes, violent crimes, homicides, burglaries etc

                I'd reckon KPI's.would have to be addressed by staffing levels too.

        • Muppet Detector on 09/09/2025 - 19:41

          vicpol cant even find 1 man desi freeman it's been over a week since the police killings.

          It took the entire world over ten years to find Osama Bin Ladin.

          That dude was better at hide and seek than where's Wally.

          • IcySpicyStew on 10/09/2025 - 10:22

            @Muppet Detector:

            It took the entire world over ten years to find Osama Bin Ladin.

            Only if you consider the US/UK and some parts of the middle east as the entire world, muppet.

            • Muppet Detector on 11/09/2025 - 08:31

              @IcySpicyStew: If they were the only people looking for him, why was there a world wide reward?

              Reckon I would have dobbed on him if I happened to come across him at the library.

              Detected.

          • tenpercent on 10/09/2025 - 10:57

            @Muppet Detector: LOL

      • Muppet Detector on 09/09/2025 - 19:34

        Bail Bill. She said that it is very likely that in coming years half of the prisoners in Victoria will be on remand.

        When we studied bail law at uni, we actually used Victoria bail laws because they were the easiest ones to understand despite studying criminal law for Qld & NSW.

        Apparently our Bail Laws were too complex/complicated for students to get their heads around.

    • reactor-au on 07/09/2025 - 07:58

      True but at the core of it, Labor say there is no problem to see here so these issues aren't being addressed.

  • tenpercent on 05/09/2025 - 10:49
    +14

    The problem, once again, is: too many immigrants too quickly.

    Note for those slow learners here (you know who you are!) I'm not saying the thefts are all committed by immigrants (I'll leave that for others to examine).

    Instead, the issue is that too many immigrants too quickly puts too much downward pressure on wages, too much upward pressure on cost of living especially housing, and also upward pressure on car prices. The consequence is that turning to crime, in particular auto theft, becomes more attractive for people of lower socio-economic backgrounds (they need money for cost of living and possibly to feed addictions, it's harder for low skilled people to get work than before as they are now competing against Australia's version of illegal Mexican immigrants, and the financial return for engaging in car theft has increased).

    The other problem is the Vic and Aus governments actually want an increase in lawlessness and disorder so that they can justify the upcoming police state powers. Soft on crime policies and excessive immigration has a purpose, apart from enriching the Capitalist class by disenfranchising and disempowering the Working class (cheaper workers). They want you to beg for it (the police state powers), even though all this crime could be readily dealt with by existing laws that have been on the books for centuries, and even though the conditions giving rise to this increase in crime could be dealt with readily by changing our migration policies.

    • studentl0an on 05/09/2025 - 11:07
      +10

      It's by design and it's happening all over the Western world.

      They will break us, primarily through demographic shifts destroying social cohesion and the high trust society created by the generations before us, until we beg for the police state.

      • tenpercent on 05/09/2025 - 11:13
        +1

        Surely it's just a coincidence that almost the exact same thing is being used in every Western nation all at the same time to lead to the exact same 'solution', right? /s

        Last weekend was a fail (for them) so onwards they push.

        • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2025 - 21:40

          Hmm, maybe in Australia (Labor) but not everywhere.

      • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2025 - 23:08
        +1

        Not in Poland, they thought ahead

        • Muppet Detector on 09/09/2025 - 19:35
          +1

          And yet Germany invaded them, twice.

          • [Deactivated] on 09/09/2025 - 19:36
            +1

            @Muppet Detector: We’re talking contemporarily in this instance… not WW1 and 2

      • kraigg on 06/09/2025 - 03:40
        +3

        It's definitely done by design. Governments in all the Western countries have been ramping up mass immigration for years, against the wishes of their own people. They're now starting to push for digital IDs to track every facet of your life protect children. It's all being done in a deliberate and coordinated manner by all governments in Western countries, left and right. It doesn't even matter how you vote, as the major parties push the exact same policies. They may differ when it comes to small fringe issues, but when it comes to mass immigration and censorship, they are as one.

        • tenpercent on 06/09/2025 - 11:35

          The next question is: why and how is it being done in lock step across all these countries?

    • bargaino on 05/09/2025 - 13:14
      +5

      The problem, once again, is: too many immigrants too quickly.

      A different problem. The largest sources of migration to Australia now are India, China and the Philippines. All these groups have low crime rates.
      High crime is particular to non-skilled migrant categories. A relatively small part of our annual intake. They could easily re-balance migration quotas to drastically reduce future crime, while maintaining the same high numbers. This is an ideological battle.

      • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2025 - 23:14
        -1

        Um… I remember seeing something in the news about Indian r*pe culture.
        Also didn’t the Phillipines have law able to kill a people that were suspected drug dealers? (And alot of people just killed others they owed money to and said they were drug dealers?)
        China… Uighers? Tianeman square…

        But to blanket say a race of people don’t commit crimes is blatantly wrong. You should be asking how they commit crimes back in their country… or what have they not yet committed that may come naturally to them?

        • bargaino on 06/09/2025 - 00:42
          +1

          Hi Alex. To be clear, I was referring specifically to the immigrant populations in Australia, not the source countries as a whole.

          • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2025 - 08:50
            -1

            @bargaino: Well.. in that case.. FYI there’s an island north of Australia called Nauru.. that we deport immigrants to that have done something illegal.
            It happens so often have a term for some of them (illegal immigrants)
            We also deport some people if they commit felonies in the country after their sentences.

            And also implore you to watch border security - it’s premise is enough immigrants break the law regularly that they turned it into a tv show - and each episode shows multiple breaking the law in Australia just as they land… (now imagine what they do if they pass security and make it to the main land)

        • Muppet Detector on 09/09/2025 - 19:46

          But to blanket say a race of people don’t commit crimes is blatantly wrong. You should be asking how they commit crimes back in their country… or what have they not yet committed that may come naturally to them?

          Possibly need to consider exactly what is a crime in their culture/country and what actions and behaviours are socially and culturally accepted.

          • [Deactivated] on 09/09/2025 - 20:51

            @Muppet Detector: Depends on the repercussions generally (and how knowledgeable and quickly law enforcement are to enforce those laws)
            Also depends how often people break said law - if law enforcement don’t know of a law, how can they enforce it?

            • Muppet Detector on 09/09/2025 - 20:57

              @[Deactivated]: How can law enforcement not know of a law? I mean, that's kind of their job, right?

              Even for Joe citizen, ignorance of law is no excuse.

              Depends on the repercussions generally (and how knowledgeable and quickly law enforcement are to enforce those laws)

              Guess we've got to give them the power to enforce the laws and not continually handicap them.

              We've gone too far in addressing a few situations where police have gone rogue.

              My guess is most of them are probably quite scared to enforce laws in case their procedures end up being declared unrighteous and they end up penalised and disciplined.

              • [Deactivated] on 09/09/2025 - 21:22

                @Muppet Detector: There’s a lot of obscure laws that are less relevant - horse drawn carts,

                Obscure Australian laws include prohibitions against disturbing weddings and funerals, business with pirates, possessing 50 kg of potatoes in Western Australia, splashing mud on bus passengers, or flying kites to annoy people in Victoria. While not exhaustive, these examples highlight the existence of seemingly bizarre or outdated legislation across various states

                (Google obscure Australian laws)

      • tenpercent on 07/09/2025 - 10:17

        Someone didn't read past the first line.

  • Universal Constant on 05/09/2025 - 11:22

    I find the relative changes interesting, please correct me if I am wrong eg all states show a RELATIVE decrease in the country (Even Vic country 22% metro 70% (22% is less than 70%, so less crime growth in country) compared to the city except WA. WA metro -11% but country is only -9% (ie a greater decrease in metro than country). I guess this is the Broome / Carnarvon / Kalgoorlie / Geraldton crime phenomenom?

  • Stealtho on 05/09/2025 - 11:23
    -4

    Dictator Dan's fault, sent everyone loopy during covid, now look where he is. If you voted for him you deserve to have your car stolen lol.

  • KeshOB on 05/09/2025 - 11:50
    -5

    Council housing, mainly junkies of fair complexion, close to hard working, educated immigrants helping this economy grow. No need to say more.

    • tenpercent on 05/09/2025 - 12:38
      -1

      Queue the wails of "rAcIsM!"…. oh wait. No such thing as racism directed at white people white people. Duh!

      /s

      • KeshOB on 05/09/2025 - 14:25
        -2

        I used to live in Prahran. Thefts everyday. White people were always the thieves. Always without exception. All from Council housing.

      • freeb1e4me on 05/09/2025 - 19:01

        Correct, there is no such thing as racism.

        /s

    • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2025 - 21:44

      Maybe they can be identified in the dark because of their complexion.
      I’m yet to see an immigrant in Australia “growing the economy” unless it’s one rorting the NDIS

  • Honest Complaint on 05/09/2025 - 11:51

    I find it hard to believe Melbourne has four times as many cars stolen as Sydney and suspect a difference in reporting more than anything else.

    • mboy on 05/09/2025 - 12:08

      Just to be clear, the data in my post is not "number of cars stolen". The data comes from the Insurance Council (which represents the insurers themselves), so the data is "number of motor theft insurance claims". Simply, it's the number of claims for being the victim of car theft.

      This means the data could be skewed if people from other states (other than Victoria) are more likely to hold only the lowest level of car insurance (CTP or third party), since they wouldn’t be able to claim for theft. Or, if they do have higher level insurance, they just choose not to claim when their car is stolen. But I really doubt Victoria is so unique that it would differ so drastically in these nuances compared with other states.

      • tenpercent on 05/09/2025 - 12:38
        -3

        Or maybe Victorians are more dodgy and engage in more insurance fraud?

        • mboy on 05/09/2025 - 12:50
          -1

          I mean sure, it's possible. It's fun to speculate. But I don't believe that the average VIC resident is drastically more dodgy than the average NSW resident.

          Also, I'd imagine if one is planning to carry out car insurance fraud, claiming for theft generally isn’t the easiest approach.

          • tenpercent on 05/09/2025 - 14:33

            @mboy:

            claiming for theft generally isn’t the easiest approach.

            From what I hear it would be believable in Vic though.

            I'd think it's easier to blame theft than to purposely write the car off without hurting yourself and trying to blame another driver.

            • mboy on 05/09/2025 - 14:54

              @tenpercent:

              From what I hear it would be believable in Vic though.

              Thanks for linking my own post back to me, I'm aware the numbers are disproportionally high for VIC. That doesn't really lend any credence to your explanation about the main driver being insurance fraud.

              • tenpercent on 06/09/2025 - 11:38

                @mboy: I proposed it as another explanation. Whether it's true or not remains to be known.

                Perhaps it's like the little taco girl said "why not both?".

          • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2025 - 23:22

            @mboy: Well… if my property prices were that of a Victorian resident (and had declined as much) and I now had more taxes and a lower quality of life and a state government that was severely corrupt and incompetent.

            And had higher premiums…
            And no job prospects apart from working for the government in a forever feedback loop of higher taxes and no real career… I might re evaluate my prospects and consider whether I should write off the car..
            Would give me money to move.

  • LanceVance on 05/09/2025 - 11:52
    +5

    Victoria is the California of Australia.

    • OzzyOzbourne on 05/09/2025 - 12:02
      +2

      Except we have the same debt as California but half the gdp.

      • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2025 - 21:45

        Probably more debt and significantly less people.

    • Iwantthebestprice on 05/09/2025 - 13:49
      +5

      It is, minus the good weather!

      At least in California I deal with the shit but I get to do it with nice weather all year round.

      Last week it was 10 degrees and poured rain for 3 days in Melbourne.

      • BadGiraffe on 08/09/2025 - 17:30

        And minus the theme parks.

  • dealsucker on 05/09/2025 - 13:55
    +8

    This vic labour government is beyond useless - from doing nothing about crime to being the most debt ridden state to taxes galore to spending 13mn on most hare brained scheme devised by human kind (amnesty machette bins) I cant wait to see the backs of these woke do gooders. F off!

    • Sammy2000 on 05/09/2025 - 16:38
      +3

      And spending money on rail lines connecting rail lines when we already have too much debt. Or maybe old Dan is in China begging for them to pay for it.

      • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2025 - 21:46
        +1

        He didn’t beg, he got selfies with Kim and Winnie the Pooh and our tax dollars paid for the holiday

  • 2jzzzz on 05/09/2025 - 13:57
    -4

    Townsville, Alice Springs and Cairns are no joke. But our "delinquents" are home grown not imported.

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