Bought one of these yesterday though I know they have been on sale since last week. Was last on Ozbargain 6 months ago for $189 http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/74058 nothing flash but cheap network LED printer from a bricks and motar store with good support (well better than HN anyway)
What's an LED printer and how is it different than say an inkjet one?
LED is similar to a laser printer — only it uses an LED light source instead of a laser beam to dislodge the particles from the drum/mechanism. Inkjet printers are just that — jets of ink are spurted out through tiny holes. Traditional arguments between inkjet and laser will generally still apply to inkjet and led comparisons (i.e., print quality, cost per print page, speed, etc)
think of this as a cheap arse more efficient "laser" printer
I hear plasma printers have richer blacks
lol.
huh, i wonder why that was inappropriate.
The black levels on any TV aren't meant to be rich. Blacks are meant to be dark, it's the colors that are meant to be rich!
Good one!
Inkjet sprays the ink right onto the paper.
LED/Laser etches the writing on a roller drum which in turn presses the powdered ink onto the paper.
Basically the same as a laser printer, except theres a strip of LED writing on the drum vs lasers and disco balls on a laser printer.
LED is just a different way of knocking the charge off the drum from a laser. Basically works the same way, so has all the advantages of a laser over an inkjet (doesn't dry out etc.)
The trick is to make sure the consumables don't have to be bought from the manufacturer, so you can push down the price per page. Brother are usually OK on this, but its worth checking.
For $99 it's a positive steal.
Toner is never just toner. Some brands have completely different toner formulations for their machines, even between different models. Some generic toner is good, while a fair few of the generic brands are fairly dodgy. Keep this in mind when you're buying generic toner - you'll have a bad time trying to get support when it ruins your printer, and the cost of repairing the printer far outweighs the "savings" from buying generic toner when there is an issue.
Nice try Mr Branded Toner salesman, but generally a retailer that's been around for a while selling nothing but generic toner and ink is going to have few complaints.
Having refilled my colour laser, I can detect no problem in quality at all.
And as for warranty - it won't last long enough for you to claim on it, and at $99 its not the end of the world either.
I'm not a salesman haha, just a technician - so unlike salespeople I see the results of what dodgy toner and ink does to photocopiers and printers. Not only can it spill, it can easily mess up the drum unit or the fuser unit. There are some generic toners that are excellent, but it's very, very hit and miss. Unless there's a certain brand of generic toner that you trust, it's a bit of a gamble (unless, of course, you have a source of cheap parts)
Edit: If I was a branded toner salesman, I would be selling you compatible toner - the mark-up on those is much higher (for the retailer) than the mark-up on genuine toner.
The wireless version of this is the HL-3075CW which can be had for $122 from The Good Guys (after $50 cashback), less any bargaining you may do. http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/92807
For $275 you can get a 40ppm duplex brother with a 500 sheet paper tray. You may not consider that a bargain but 40ppm and duplex can be mighty useful…
Just thinking, it's actually probably 40ppm simplex and about 18ppm duplex though.
I got the 3040CN for $68 when they honored the price error in the SMH. Print quality is very good for the price. At $99 it is still a decent price but after a quick search on staticice.com, it appears that standard pricing is around $100-110 from computer shops.
Yeah saw these the other day, amazing, was going to post this deal too.
I was happy with last years price of $129 (3040CN - same except
this is 18pp/m up from 16pp/m).
Awesome printers for grunt work, not good for photos etc but fine for basic color. Just plug into your wireless router and access from any wireless PC/laptop you install a driver on.
Might buy one for another set of starter inks and chuck the machine. The starter inks are rated to (700)EDIT 1000 (thanks Withdr4wn) pages but there is a trick to reset the counters so depending on usage 1400+ pages is attainable YMMV.
According to the Brother website the yield is 1,000 for each cartridge (using the 5% coverage metric), so this would suggest about $0.10 per page. The generic toner cartridges on eBay are around the same price as the printer with the genuine replacement toner cartridges dearer than the printer each at Officeworks with an estimated 1,400 yield rate (2,200 for the black).
As a standalone printer, it's probably an alright deal - particularly if you want to have a go at changing the toner replacement yourself (not sure what you need to do for this printer, but the Fuji Xerox ones used to require a chip change - and quite a messy job).
Worth considering before buying.
Excellent, I always thought they were only 700, so 1000 pages is a bonus. Hardly makes buying 1400 page replacement cartriges worth it.
It is possible they are the same as the replacement 1400 page cartridge just crippled to report empty after 1000 5% pages.
To reset the counters all you do is:
Toner Reset:
1. Open the cover of the printer to access the toner cartridges.
2. Press CANCEL + SECURE PRINT at the same time. This will show the toner menu.
3. Press + and - to navigate to the toner you are reseting.
4. Use the OK button to reset the toner. Each toner has two listings. Make sure to reset both.
Brother's starter cartridges aren't crippled to report empty, they are completely different weights to High Yield and Standard Yield cartridges. Also, watch out when buying replacement toner/ink from Big W - with some brands they only sell the "Standard Yield" when a High Yield cartridge is available - and the High Yield cartridge is sometimes cheaper than Big W's Standard Yield cartridge.
Edit: Here's an example. I work at a local Business Equipment sales & service company, so sometimes our prices aren't quite as cheap as Big W because we can't buy products for anywhere near as cheap as we can, but I use our price in this example.
Big W sells TN2130 toner (for HL-2140 etc - http://www.bigw.com.au/electronics/computers-office/printers…) for $78 a cartidge, with a 1500 page yield it works out at 5.2c/page
We sell TN2150 toner (we don't keep the Standard Yield cartridges, because they're a rip-off), which is the "High Capacity" toner cartridge for the same machine, for $109, which works out at 4.1c/page
So there's a pretty big difference there - when you buy toner from Big W etc it isn't necessarily cheaper than normal, local stores.
Regardless, the starter cartriges are great value. A set of 4 + all the other parts and printer for $99 with 1000 pages black / colour, (10c page) OR
pay anywhere between $220-$280 depending on store for 2200 black and 1400 color (11c page or worse if doing more colour printing AND no spare parts)
Can't seem to find a high yield available for this model.
Looks like this one only has the high yield toner (TN-240) available, which is great - gets rid of the confusion for the consumer. And I'm very impressed by the amount of pages covered by Brother's starter cartridges, they seem to have upped them recently (perhaps competitive edge), from 700 pages on their previous models to 1,100 pages on their new models - a pretty good move
Just wanted to say, I know you think that the TN-2130 for $78 is expensive and the TN-2150 for $109 from you is a good deal, but I've always purchased the TN-2150 for about ~$75.
Of course the TN-2150 can be had for a lot less (either at larger stores with larger buying power, or online stores with a tiny margin), I was just using it to illustrate that Big W etc have some sketchy tactics to make you think you're getting it cheaper (I'm pretty sure the only one they sell is TN-2130 never seen them stocking TN-2150)
Edit: Also, Officeworks is selling the TN-2150 for $121 - that's very strange that their price is higher than ours as we sell at RRP
If the printer has 4 x Toner Cartridges for $99 that can (as per specifications) print 1,000 pages each, that's 1,000 colour pages (or $0.10 per page of 5% coverage of each toner cartridge) included with the printer.
If it's costing $109 for a black toner cartridge at 2,200 but the other colours are only 1,400 at the same price then ~$400 is required. So, for the first 1,400 pages (for all colours) - you're looking at 28.5c per page with the remaining 800 pages for black toner 4.9c per page. That sounds incredibly expensive compared to the $0.10 per page you get when you buy the printer.
Throw away a whole printer just to save a few $s on the toner? No wonder we've got global warming - floods, drought, etc :(
They had floods & droughts back in the 1930s… most thought it was the dumping of laser printers back then too. :-)
No idea why you are getting downvoted, it doesn't take a genius to understand that ten million printers in landfill is bad for the environment.
He got down voted for bad logic. Toner/Printers don't equal global warming. Sure it's bad for the environment but he didn't talk about that he talked about global warming. I agree with everyone else that reducing waste makes sense, I don't want the world to be one giant land fill either and I repurpose/recycle as much as I can. I don't however believe in global warming apparently all human polution still doesn't rival one major volcanic eruption which makes the whole thing kind of shaky. Have a look into previous weather the planet will always change erratically at times and be stable at others. Besides we're pretty much gonna run out of oil by 2050, coal by 2070 regardless of whatever happens we will be using nuclear and batteries for cars etc. Can't wait for people to get over the religion of global warming.
I don't however believe in global warming apparently all human polution still doesn't rival one major volcanic eruption
Christ, where do you people get this crap from. The massive volcano eruption in 2010 which stopped flights across Europe actually resulted in a net decrease in carbon dioxide emissions because of the flights which couldn't run.. Obviously extra flights had to be run afterwards to help transport people so there was no real saving, but hopefully that puts it into perspective for you.
You're right, but he has a point too, sort-of. I think what he means is, that one massive eruption disrupted the world a lot more than the pollution we've produced.
Of course, that's just a short-sighted view. It doesn't mean the pollution we produce isn't affecting the environment!
Except for every other day of every year when the airline industry isn't disrupted, we're producing more carbon dioxide in the aviation industry alone than a major volcanic eruption, so what he said is wrong. And that's taking the most hopeful interpretation of what he wrote.
Re-reading his post again, I see what you mean. He's being a bit vague as he first talks about global warming then follows up with pollution.
Pollution can cause global warming, but not all pollution causes global warming.
The big eruption caused more short-term disruption to humans than any pollution we have produced, but it was due to ash and sulfur in the air, not greenhouse gasses like CO2.
So I think you're both right, but only because he sounds confused. Volcanoes don't contribute much to global warming in comparison to humans, but they do cause short-term air pollution with ash and sulfur, causing greater short-term disruption than anything caused by humans. Except maybe Bin Laden.
You can get a complete set of toners on Ebay for $94 delivered, which are the full size cartridges (not the 2/3 'starter' ones that come with the printer). They are generics but I've never had a problem with them, and that's cheaper than buying a new printer (at least until the drum units need replacing).
Nice to know, saves $5, prints 400+ more pages and includes delivery so a good ozbargain .
If I need new drum or any other parts Id buy this $99 printer tho.
But its not $9!!!
Don't forget that anything about $50 and Officeworks will deliver for free. No need to lug 19kg from the store.
Many people might end up lugging 19kg from the post office during lunch instead. :)
only 250 page capacity, great so i still gota find a place for that half used ream
We prefer to put a smaller number of pages in our photocopiers, probably about half a ream - if you leave a full ream in there (especially if the machine is for home use) you'll see the paper getting damp pretty quickly (if you live in a humid area)
I just bought this printer, anyone know how long delivery to metro usually takes?
Thanks OP I bought a couple.
Spoke to a Brother rep in store. He told me this is the new clearance price and they are discontinuing this model within the next 3 months or when existing stock sells out.
Got Fuji Xerox CP105B for the same price a couple of weeks ago at officeworks. Was told that the Fuji has been Selling for $98 for a while but the Brother has recently come down in price, it's not a sale or special pricing but new low price point.