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AOOSTAR WTR PRO 4 Bay NAS (N150, 4x 3.5", 1x NVMe, 2x2.5G, HDMI/DP/USB-C) US$260.94 (~A$402) Delivered @ China Box AliExpress

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nice N150 based mini pc / NAS with 4x 3.5" SATA bays, 2x 2.5GBe NICs, 0GB RAM (add your own DDR4 (much cheaper to buy locally than select 16GB from this vendor, and drives of course).

Perfect for a home NAS - use UnRAID, TrueNAs, Synology (use auxxxilium to install DSM 7.2), whatever you want - could also be used as a desktop for daily email, web browsing, youtube and torrenting.

Yes this can easily run Home Assistant, yes this can easily handle OPNsense and yes it will easily handle video transcoding in Jellyfin (and probably Plex, I don't use Plex so don't know) - hell install Proxmox and then you could run all of them in containers / VMs and just have the one box connected to your NBN handling network security, HA, storage, media streaming etc. (though I'd probably go the extra and buy a 32GB SODIMM from a local vendor, this aliexpress vendor charges nearly $100 AUD for a 16GB SODIMM to be pre-installed, not worth it imo).

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  • Your price in the title doesn't include GST.

    Price in the title has been updated to include GST.

    • +5

      Just remember to double check the GST amount.

      AliExpress sometimes charges Australians 17.5% not the 10% they should.

      • Question - what do "we" usually do if they're charging 17.5% - not buy? Ask for a refund of 7.5%? Refresh and hope the prices change and get the right GST amount?

    • thank you, I didn't think about GST.

      • +7

        Same stupid, tired jokes on every AliExpress tech post 😴

        • -5

          thank you thank you, you have been a great audience I am here all week :D

  • +9

    Geez these are getting cheap, the N150 does okay transcoding for plex too

    • +7

      I have a N150, could do 10x 1080p transcoding and 3 or maximum 4 times 4k transcoding
      Solid little unit

      • +1

        Yeah it has hardware acceleration afaik, easily keeps up with live 4K transcoding

  • +3

    This good for a google photos replacement?

  • +4

    Damn. I just built an n100 machine in a Jonsbo N4 for about this price. I've got 5 drives, but could have done with 4 and a neater package like this.

    • Which motherboard did you get?

        • I was looking at that board until I read that there isn't enough pcie lanes for the CPU to support all of the components at full speed, if anyone else has any knowledge it would be greatly appreciated :D

          • +1

            @UNFKNBLVBL: The network connection will be the bottleneck well before the PCIe lanes.

    • Yeah doing the sums you can't build one at this price, let alone get the neat form factor.

    • where did u get your drives from

      • +1

        That hong kong suplier
        East something

        • they are still quite expensive 😞. why aren't hard drives as cheap as it was before

  • Maybe some coupons works from here

    • +1

      Yeah I think the code AUAF33 would work here or even AUAF66 but starts in 3 days (16th June)

      • Would you wait 3 days? This deal might be gone by then?

  • +1

    Currently on a 15 year old qnap 4 bay nas, and thoroughly dependant on qsync for auto backup of files from phone onto nas. Do you have any recommendations on applications that do this for unraid/tos/true?

    • Interested to know too

    • i ahvent used unraid/truenas but as they are so famous i will be surprise if there is no app that can run under unraid./truenas….

    • Check out Photo Prism

      • is that for photo only or we can select a folder and it will upload all regardless type of file? and can we ask only update when first time connected to home wifi for example so we go out taking foto and then back home enter the house phone connected to wifi and start uploading - everything automated

        • You might be better off with a sync app like Syncthings for backing up all files and you can limit it to only use Wi-Fi networks or even specific Wi-Fi networks only.

          • @Dejy: thanks glad there is other options that can do what synology apps can

            • @McMaferMur: No problem :)

              Yep, Synology is a nice easy to use interface for a NAS but it has plenty of alternatives that do the same and work with the same apps.

  • What are the largest capacities supported? 18tb?

  • -2

    Tempting but prefer a DAS connected to a SFF PC running x86

    • +4

      I prefer x64 processor. I think most people would…

      On a serious note these are x64 not ARM

      • for modern builds x64 is still better

        • +2

          as buffalo bill said, these are x64.. you can install windows on the system if you want and then connect it to a mouse, keyboard and monitor and use it as a desktop with lots of storage expansion if you wanted to.

    • +4

      Via USB? I've yet to find one that isn't crap. Sadly most of the 5-bay ones are some cursed abomination of one USB-to-SATA then a SATA port multiplier behind it.

  • -1

    Have a Jonsbo unraid NAS and don't need this, but would be more tempted if it has 6 drives or even 5.

    • +1

      The WTR MAX is their latest model that came out last month, but it seems to be always sold out.

  • +1

    I bought for ~$460 from China Box and i thought that was cheap. Would recommend for media server even if no m.2 adaptor for second OS drive was included. Shipping wasn't super quick but it arrrived.

    My only issue is Intel do not offer ECC memory support on these CPUs, whereas the AMD version supports it. That's not an Aoostar issue though and it's not critical but for anything else other than a media server, I would recommend the AMD version of the same machine 5825u which also has a significant performance increase.

    • so only one m2? then where do we keep the nas? i think putting in the HDD would be not wise incase the hdd dies?
      and what do you use the m2 slot now for? cache?

      • the M2 IS for the NAS / OS storage. Or you could run synology DSM using auxxxilium and it boots from a USB stick, use the M2 for read caching (needs 2x M2 for write cache support under DSM).

        • Cant this one have a 2nd m2 using a adapter for the wifi slot? Will be my first time setting one up and was thinking one m2(500gig) for OS and another larger for temp media storage that I dont plan to keep but watch/delete and dont want to spin up the HDD for. Will this work or can I just partition a larger m2 and still be fine with performance?

          • @gogo1234: I did read elsewhere that's what someone did - but I didn't see mention of wifi with the n150 model, it might only be on the AMD model. Setting up different drive pool in trueNAS / UnRAID etc. should allow you to separate the solid state and mechanical drives (and drive sleep), such a thing doesn't exist in Synology so far as I'm aware.

      • +1

        Yeah I use Unraid, so the OS is on a USB and the m.2 NVMe is cache and appdata. I don't like the single m.2 i must say because although there is a regular backup to the disks there is no native redundancy.

    • Yep, specifically recommended against running zfs without ECC due to contagious corruption.

      No idea how likely that is IRL.

      • On mine I run ZFS with non-ECC but i recommend not cheaping out on the single RAM stick. I run an occasional check against a parity disk.

        Having said that I would prefer ECC memory. There is a reason most server systems use it.

        • How do you run a check?

          • +1

            @gunslinger:

            zpool scrub <pool name>
            
            • @cfuse: Yep, the normal route.

              Have you had any reported errors?

              I've had a fair few over the years, due to failing desktop drives usually, but never lost data.

              It looks like it's not as dangerous as reported (running zfs without ecc) based on this.

              • @gunslinger: Not yet, but I also have only been running new drives that are NAS grade or better, and my use case is write sparse.

                I open my wallet based on how high my blood pressure will rise in the event of a failure. ECC is high on my list, but I also run old enterprise hardware so older ECC isn't the sort of murderous expense that modern ECC is.

                It's been a long time since I've had a massive data loss, and that was down to dodgy desktop drives failing simultaneously (bad TLER defaults, I hate you).

  • Tempting. By first look seems like n100 and not n150. Seems like a question to seller and haven't been responded.
    This was questioned 10th may. They haven't replied.

    • +1

      N100 is greyed out, would be N150

  • +7

    Loving my AMD variant of this thing. Loaded it with tons of RAM, installed TrueNAS, and it's been working flawlessly. Currently using it to store my data as well as run 10+ seperate apps (Immich/Home Assistant/multiple game servers/assorted random projects). It's replaced a couple Raspberry Pis that I previously used for small apps, and has tons of headroom for anything else I want to deploy. Hard to beat for this price, I'm not aware of many alternatives that look this nice, are this compact, run this cheaply, and work as reliably.

  • Whats the power consumption on these? My old NAS draws about 30-35w on idle with 4 hhd spin down. Can these draw less than 10w idle ?

    • Keen to know

    • -1

      well my similarly specced N5095 NAS with 5x 7200rpm drives draws around 55W when active. so if the OS supports spin down then yeah it should be around 10W easily.

      • +1

        I looked up power consumption of HDD's the other day, and it was lower than I thought. A smaller capacity drive (4TB) draws 5W when active, and maybe 0.5W when in sleep. A larger drive may draw 8W when active.

        • I'll need to shut down the NAS to plug the power meter back in, no promises but might be able to do it over the weekend. I don't have drive sleep enabled and I have 5x 7200rpm 10TB Toshiba drives.

          • @gizmomelb: I'm interested to hear the outcome.
            I've been battling Terramaster because the NAS I bought from them won't put drives to sleep (they failed to diagnose & fix), and I'm worried about drive life and power consumption. But looking at the numbers, the power consumption shouldn't be too big a deal (2 x 4TB drives).
            I might also hook it up to a power monitoring device.

            • +2

              @Make it so:

              and I'm worried about drive life

              Hard drives are totally happy running 24x7 - a lack of sleep mode is not going to affect the lifespan of your drives.

              • @Nom: Thank you, that's helpful to know.

    • I've seen specs indicating it does 15W-25W Idle and a review showing 21-24W Idle. Review also showed with 40-50% CPU use and all 4 drives installed and spinning it was doing around 64-66W.

      • +1

        My AMD WTR with 2x 2tb and 2x 18tb drive are idling around 40w and goes up to about 65w. I'm running about 13 different containers so something is always going. If I run Minecraft server then it's always sitting around 50w.

        It was running at 22w when I had it with just 2x2tb and very few containers running. This is with the box running DSM. Though I'd probably use unraid if I had to set up again. (Mainly due to the fact I had to run arc loader via proxmox as without it arc loader refuses to recognise any drives, no idea why)

        • awesome info re: power usage, thank you @azukay
          I'm guessing arc loader didn't detect drives as maybe it doesn't have the needed driver for the SATA controller (but under proxmox it would detect the generic VM SATA controller so it works then).

          • @gizmomelb: problem is it didn't even pickup the nvme drive thats installed, so if it didnt detect only the sata drives then probably the cause. either way my box came with a windows 11 licence which booted up fine since i had ordered with nvme and ram.

            • @azukay: bugger. Don't know how long ago it was you tested, but possibly a newer version has the driver support now that the N150 is more common, auxxxilium seems to have almost daily updates (but if it's installed and working then I personally don't see the point in updating unless it's a highly recommended fix for an earlier issue).

  • Is it the all time low price?

  • Yo damn, that's a nice price drop for a relative new item

    I will flag that the one I bought had loose cables and I had to open it up to reconnect the drives to the mobo.

  • Should I go with none RAm and none OS or I should go with RAM option?
    Should I get a SSD and build the TrueNS on top?
    Sorry I am new to this, could anybody share what to do to build the running NAS?

    • +1

      I believe those options ar eonly for the AMD variant, which is much more expensive. Considering the vendor's pricing is almost $100 AUD more with 16GB RAM, I'd buy the RAM and M2 SSD locally (that way you can guarantee getting 'name brand' storage rather than some brand not even the internet has heard of (and it'll probably be cheaper locally as well) - eg 16GB DDR4-3200 SODIMM is $55 for Crucial branded memory from amazon.

      • Thank you Gizmo! you are fantastic!
        Could you tell me after I acquire RAM and SSD, what should I do about installing OS and other essential applications?
        Any tutorial?
        I am keen to make it as photo and video storage center and medial center for movies I save locally.

        • I'm using TrueNAS Scale on baremetal (ie, not in a Proxmox VM). There are plenty of YouTube tutorials. You can install Plex/Jellyfin as a media server, and immich for photo backups.

        • +2

          @hishaken - unfortunately it all depends on what your level of I.T. expertise and comfort level is. As puffinfresh says there are tonnes of youtube videos and tutorial on installing NAS software, I personally went with running a hacked version of the Synology NAS software simply because I already had Synology and it allowed to move my physical drives over into the new system I built and continue using it as if nothing had changed. For the Synology OS system I then followed some text tutorials from Dr. Frankenstein to install Docker along with Sonarr, Jellyfin and other apps - https://drfrankenstein.co.uk/

        • +3

          I run Debian Trixie (quite stable now) headless/server as my NAS OS and install the packages I need, but other options are Unraid, TrueNAS, CasaOS, ProxMox, Open Media Vault, Xpenology, ZimaOS or can run any linux distro and install the packages/apps you need.

        • make it as photo and video storage center

          @hishaken don't forget to backup your data. You at least need to buy some large USB drives that you can periodically backup the whole NAS to.

          • @Nom: Thanks Nom. I thought the purpose of having Nas is not having large USB drive.
            Are you saying Nas still not safe for storing files even with Raid 5 setup?

            • -1

              @hishaken: all together now! NAS is not backup.
              if it's important data then have at least 2 copies of it in different physical locations (in case there is a flood or fire and it physically destroys one copy of the data), having more copies either off-site or on the cloud will help preserve at least 'one copy' some where. For cloud copies, think of it as at worst if the internet suddenly stopped working, the cloud storage company you have the data with goes bankrupt, or suffers a data breach and all data in encrypted and held to ransome etc. None of the data in that cloud copy would be available. It might be fanciful, but with both Chinese and Russian navies mapping out cable locations around the world, think what you would be able to access and not access if all of the international cables were severed. As for starlink and musk, I trust that service even less for data security.

  • The 1TB option with 32GB, do we know whether it's SSD or 1TB HDD ?

    • -1

      if you feel the price is cheap, then must be 1tb hdd

  • does anybody know if you get a tax invoice when purchasing of aliexpress? for tax purposes

    • -1

      No chance

    • @jack ma - someone asking question

    • You do, but usually in a currency like USD or CNY.

  • +1

    @gizmomelb - thanks for posting, are you able to recommend some local vendors to purchase the RAM? Also, do you know how many RAM slots the device has (tried to look at the specification page but couldn't identify)?

    • it'll only have one SODIMM slot since the Intel N100 and N150 only support single channel RAM. For the 16GB Crucial branded DDR4-3200 SODIMM for $55 I just looked at amazon. May be cheaper with local providers like MSY/Umart, CPL etc.

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