$19 clearance pricing on OfficeOne IP900 and SC10IP security cameras.
Saw same thing in two Kmart stores in Brisbane, probably across the board.
Same as in these old posts:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/187332 ($29)
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/187326 ($39)
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/132966 ($59)
I have an iPhone 6, will I be able to view the cam on it?
yep, no problem. OS X is trickier.
So I bought 4 outdoor models and 1 indoor model, I plugged it into the router and got it working straight away from my iPhone. Works really well including the pan/tilt, but i would love to be able to use these on OS X. Any suggestions? Down the track I'd like to plug these into an NVR and let it do the heavy lifting. Will these work with a one of those popular Hikvision NVRs?
If you are just after basic access on OS X, you can use the web interface. If you set up port forwarding, you should be able to use it from any internet connected computer.
I got one working after much fiddleing around, used a motion jpeg stream and found the right ip and port. Only think I don't have is camera control (pan/tilt). Other than that, pretty happy. Does anyone know about compatible NVRs?
These cameras work with iOS and Android devices, there are many ip camera apps available. You will need to configure your router to enable remote access - it becomes a little more trickier if you dont have a static ip address on your router. Some ISPs charge extra to have a static IP.
While you can get these cameras to work at home, you are most likely using the internal ip adresses rather than the external ip address. Internal ip addresses look like 192.168.xx.xx. As I have mentioned above, you will need to configure your router to access the cameras remotely (i.e. away from home).
If you do configure router to allow remote access be very careful as there a number of reports of cameras getting hacked, or remotely controlled.
Bought one of each indoor and outdoor. Plenty left at East Gardens in Pagewood http://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/77509/30823/20150528_085700.jpg.
Would you be able to scan a copy of the receipt of your purchase? Thanks!
Tonight when I get home if you still want/need it by then I can/will post it here unless someone else wants to beat me to it.
Awesome, thanks.
@davicta: Here it is: http://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/77509/30829/cci28052015_00000.jpg. May I as why you wanted it?
@samlor: I need it for a price guard insurance claim for my credit card. Need to show them proof to claim the difference I paid last time. Thanks a lot for your help!
How do you guys run the power for the camera? I mean not everyone have powerpoints at the top :)
Extension cord?
There are a few ways to get power to them. Easiest would be to run a 240v extension cord from nearest power point. Most houses have a power point in the roof space for things like central heating/cooling units. If that's not an option, you can run a DC power cable from your study/wired service cupboard or wherever up the wall cavity into the roof space and out to where you want the camera. I already had some old school coax/power (all in one cable) in a couple of places where I had old analogue cams. A cheap adapter let me reuse these cables to power my IP cams.
5m cable here too.
Could someone who has purchased these IP cameras confirm that they do not support WPA2 WiFi security? Cheers.
All of my IP900 are connected perfectly to my WPA2 secured AP. See here too for confirmation http://www.wanscam.com/cd/index.php?ac=article&at=list&tid=1…
Thanks. I'm not very handy. Just don't want power cables hanging everywhere. My backyard deck has power points at the top so I can use the outdoor no problems. Just the front entrance - might skip the front and just have rear. Also indoor will be tricky too power wise. I will go pick up 1 indoor and 1 outdoor now at Kmart. Again have been ozbargained lol
Yeah sometimes its tricky. I found the nicest way is to run the extension cable or DC extension cable out to the eave and make a small hole to push the included power plug through. Sometimes there is a small gap between the brick and the eave you can use without making a hole in the eave. Also for the front entrance some people might be able to mount the camera at one of the front corners of the house (pointed toward the front door) where you might be able to get power from an external power point on the side of the house?
For indoor its hard, but for my garage and rumpus I used a 3m DC extension cord (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/220813358430?_trksid=p2057872.m27…) combined with the supplied 1m power supply to reach up to 4 metres from the power point without a big/clunky 240v extension cable.
Get a sparky to run the cables for you (and/or install power points in the ceiling) if you have them out doing another job.
foscam?
Plenty at Kmart cannon hill down the back in electronics section. Not marked as being on sale but scans ok.
None left at Cannon Hill anymore. Got three outside SC10IPs from Wynnum today. Didn't see any IP900s.
Thanks. I just bought 1 outdoor and 1 indoor. Quite a few at Bondi Junction KMART NSW.
Anyone running it with Synology NAS? I plan to use that as I have one if it works.
Which one is better value 4 money, IP900 or the other one?
Depends on your requirements. Do you want pan and tilt where you can remotely move the camera around 360 degrees and 90 degrees down/up? Do you want audio recording/streaming along with the video? Will the location be safe from rain? If yes to these get the indoor (IP900). If not get the higher resolution outdoor (SC10IP).
I got some of these last time they were discounted.
Ended up returning the indoor PTZ camera as the image quality was quite poor, and getting a second outdoor one instead.
I have 4 cameras (1 foscam, 1 dlink and 2 of the kmart jobs) running through Blue Iris.
Only had one issue where the kmart cameras reverted to their default IP's over wifi. I've re-configured them and haven't had any issues since, so hopefully it was a once off.
Image quality of the outdoor ones is quite decent for the price.
AS someone else has mentioned - Jaycar have 5m extensions available which will save you running a 240v extension lead.
Could you post a link please
Personally I would call the indoor PQ more than acceptable (especially for $19) if you prefer pan/tilt, audio and/or the smaller size. But if you don't need those then no brainer to go the outdoor for higher res and H264 compression. And with regards to the extension, if 5m is not long enough or too long, you can get the DC extension cables in 1m, 3m, 10m and 15m too. I needed a 240v extension for one of mine as its a 30m run from closest outside power point.
Which one is better?
Has anyone used one of these Onvif Outdoor CCTV? It is twice the price of the $19 ones but has PoE so less wires.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-Million-HD-720P-IR-Onvif-Outdoo…
triple the price. Area you getting 3x the value?
Anyone have any joy finding these in S.A. stores? I tried 4 without success. Rundle mall, firle, ingle farm, modbury.
Tried every store in Adelaide metro area except Marion and Noarlunga, managed to get one of each at Port Adelaide. Everywhere else out.
Would have loved another outdoor one, but can't complain! Thanks OP!
hey mate, what were stocks like at Pt. Adl? thx
They only had one of each, sorry. So all gone now.
I saw about 10 indoor cameras on the shelf today at Noarlunga, no outdoor.
Any in Sydney?
See comments above. Earlier today there were some at Eastgardens and Bondi.
Bought one indoor and one outdoor model from Hurstville Westfield earlier today. They only have 2 outdoor and 6 indoor units remaining.
Can these cameras record to some sort of storage like a microsd card?
Yes. Its quite primitive and not overly flexible, but the IP900 can record onto a local microSD card. You will need a big card to get more than the last 4-5 hours though as the files are quite large.
Ah okay. Thanks.
Has anyone found longer ones of these extension cables other than at Jaycar?
For indoor its hard, but for my garage and rumpus I used a 3m DC extension cord (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/220813358430?_trksid=p2057872.m27…) combined with the supplied 1m power supply to reach up to 4 metres from the power point without a big/clunky 240v extension cable.
Yes there are 5m, 10m and 15m ones available on eBay.
The only ones I keep getting to show up have BNC cable and connector with them.
How Do you install these?
Anyone got the SC10IP working on OSX? I am having a lot of trouble with it. I can't even get it to work in the same IOS app as the IP900. I can't even find the recommended iOS app on the app store (it redirects me to Malaysian store, which redirects me to the Australian store).
Not sure if this will help but the SC10IP uses h264 streams rather than MJPEG streams like the IP900. Which iOS app are you using for the IP900? Does it have an option to change stream type to h264 for the SC10IP? The better android apps allow you to choose individual camera/stream settings for each camera you add.
To be honest, I don't even know how to find the bloody ip address of the sC10IP.
I grabbed a SC10IP yesterday and just set it up now. A couple of differences from the IP900. The SC10IP does not default to DHCP like the IP900. It sets a static IP of 192.168.1.10 which is a real pain, especially if your home network is anything other than 192.168.1 as you will have to change it to get to this camera and change the camera to your normal network then change your network back (or use a cross cable direct to the camera). If you are already on 192.168.1 then make sure your PC (or other devices) are not using .10 otherwise you will need to move them. Then you can connect to the camera simply by going to the web browser and browsing to 192.168.1.10. It will bring up the login screen, so use admin and blank password and log in. If it isn't in english select it from the top right. On first launch you have to make sure you click yes to any requests to install/run activex otherwise it won't work. Even then I had to coerce the browser to let me install an unverified activex package, as it kept blocking it due to security reasons.
Here is the big catch. I wasn't able to set the wifi settings as per the manual as the wifi box would never come up when trying to launch it from the web gui. Instead I used the device manager software (advance button) that came on the cd to set the wifi settings. The setup of this camera is far worse than the IP900, and I can see why there are lots of returns of these for the average punter.
Hazza is there any major difference in image quality between the 2? I have 2 indoors but might go hunt for some outdoors if there is. Also the outdoor one seems like a security cam noob's worst nightmare to set up though
@Davo93: Good question. I only got the outdoor one going last night so haven't had a chance to set it up next to one of my indoor ones to do a direct comparison. From the initial setup picture on the web interface I am not that impressed. It almost looks like there is some upscaling going on, and that the native resolution is not 1280 x 720, but something smaller being artificially scaled up. One reason I say that is the aspect ratio was slightly off and any sharp diagonal lines were jaggy. The other thing I am not impressed by is difficulty in setup and also difficulty in finding that my existing android/windows apps do not seem to be compatible with this camera, yet work perfectly with the indoor model. I haven't had much time to play yet though, so will get a better comparison over the weekend.
Thanks for the reply, I'm really happy with my 2 IP900 and will be installing this weekend. If you keep the receipt with Kmart returns you really can't go wrong with these cameras. Incredible value for money.
Okay so I had more of a play tonight with a IP900 and a SC10IP side by side. First unexpected thing is that the SC10IP has an IR cut filter. Brilliant and unheard of on a $19 camera. This makes the daytime colours a lot better than an IR only camera like the IP900, it also helps the low light picture clarity before the IR kicks in. Second thing, I take back the resolution comment I made earlier. It's only the web interface that made the aspect ratio weird and produced the jaggies, and having the two cams side by side, it is clear that the real resolution of the SC10IP (1280 x 720) is double that of the IP900 (640 x 480). The other main difference is the SC10IP has a widescreen sensor (16x9 or wider) whereas the IP900 is more like 4:3. This won't matter much when viewing on tablet/phone, and the IP900 will still be more than acceptable for most.
Main drawbacks of the SC10IP, are the lack of pan/tilt, lack of audio, harder setup and less compatibility of apps. If you are viewing on a high definition monitor, or want the best resolution and picture quality and won't miss the pan/tilt, audio, easier setup, and better compatibility of apps, then the SC10IP is the cam you want. Over the weekend I will try and get some screen grabs side by side of the differences.
Has anyone got the SC10IP to work with iSpy, BlueIris, IP Cam Viewer or IP Cam Monitor? I am having trouble finding a brand name that this camera is similar to, in order to define in these programs. ONVIF and generic IP cam definitions don't seem to work.
@Hazza:
I haven't tried in the apps, but have successfully connected using VLC and instructions here:
http://www.ispyconnect.com/man.aspx?n=OfficeOne
With no password
rtsp://192.168.1.10/user=admin_channel=1_stream=0.sdp
With password set
rtsp://192.168.1.10/user=admin_password=mypass_channel=1_stream=0.sdp
@Hazza: The SC10IP should work with any ONVIF compatible video client. Add the camera with its ONVIF interface url: http://<IP>:8899/
Using a tool like ONVIF Device Manager ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/onvifdm/ ), you can quickly find the camera's configuration and streams.
Manufacturer: H264
Model: NVT
Hardware: 00001
Firmware: V100
ONVIF version: 2.0
Yeah I actually managed to get it to work in iSpy and IP Cam Viewer last night using just a generic rtsp over TCP user defined camera config with port 554 (default rtsp port) and syntax as per ruddj's post. (rtsp://192.168.1.10/user=admin_password=mypass_channel=1_stream=0.sdp)
However, it is very buggy. Basically it starts off at 5fps or so, then freezes/lags for 5-10 seconds, then comes back, then freezes again. I thought it was because of it being connected through wifi. But it does the same intermittent behaviour when hard wired so its tnot that. I also tested with VLC and when viewing the primary (full res) stream 0 it runs for 3 seconds and freezes for good. If I open the lower res stream 1 in vlc, it runs better, but it isn't reliably smooth like the IP900's.
I also read from another comment in the previous thread that using brand A.V Sistemi and model 61xx DVR as the definition works with this camera in IP Cam Viewer and it improved the freezing/lag for me, so I advise using that if its an option. Its still laggy compared to the IP900, although when viewing from the SC10IP's own web interface the streaming is perfect. I will try the ONVIF definition see if its any better.
Good news. I have gotten almost all my favourite IP900 compatible apps to work with the SC10IP now using RTSP over TCP (rtsp://192.168.1.10/user=admin_password=mypass_channel=1_stream=0.sdp). Working perfectly in BlueIris, IP Cam Viewer and tinyCam Monitor Pro. iSpy is working but its not perfect as it freezes/lags a bit and drags the framerate of all my IP900 cameras down. IP Cam Remote doesn't have advanced features like RTSP so doesn't work. Didn't have any luck with any ONVIF configs.
@Hazza: Hi Hazza, I've picked up two of the SC101IP cameras but am getting the error 'Save config to device failed' whenever I try to change the gateway and IP address to match my own router. I am trying to change the default gateway address from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.2.1 and the IP from 192.168.1.10 to 192.168.2.30. I tried on my Vista machines and my XP machines and they all give me this same error. I've tried different wireless routers, a switch and even a direct crossover cable but all give me the same error. What am I doing wrong? This camera is mind boggling! Is anyone else getting this error?
@IMFrugl: instead of setting a static IP on the camera, maybe you could set it to dhcp and get you router to reserve and always assign the same address to that mac address ( if your router supports this)
@ruddj: I can't use the web interface because my network is on 192.168.2.X. I can't ping the camera's IP address. I'm wondering if I can use some other software to set the device config.
@sirob1: Hi Sirob1. I don't think the SC101IP supports DHCP. Right now the only way I can see the camera is using the 'DeviceManager' which came on the CD and it does not offer many options other than set the new IP and gateway, both of which give me the 'save config to device error'. Any more suggestions..?
@IMFrugl: it does support dhcp -the solution i described is what i am using.
-manually set your pcs ip address to 192.168.1.1
-use IE and turn all active x security down to minimal.
-go to 192.168.1.10 and enable IE compatibility mode
-change the web interface language to English.
-change the camera ip settings to dhcp.
-revert your pc to dhcp
-check your router logs for which address was assigned to the camera
EDIT: Yes your right, sorry I got myself confused with cascading routers/gateways. Since you are confined to the internal switching it will work.
@Hazza: Actually you do not need to change routers IP, just your PC to 192.168.1.1.
You will be unable to access the internet or anything else on your normal network until you set it back, but because your 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.10 devices are on the same physical network they can talk to each other (just nothing else).
You can then access the camera, change it to DHCP and then change your PC back.
@Hazza: unless you have a very unusual home network configuration with multiple subnets that require routing, you are wrong.
Packets from your PC will hit the switch portion of your 'router'and will be switched correctly to the camera without ever needing to be routed. It's true you will lose your internet connection whilst you have an IP address on the different subnet, but you WILL be able to speak to the camera.
@sirob1: Thanks sirob1, ruddj and Hazza for the help. I managed to connect to the camera with the web interface and can a direct crossover cable connection after changing my computer's IP address. It also started downloading newactive.exe from xmsecu.com. Not too sure what that was - some DVR or something?
This is quite a cool camera. I've got no idea how the average person will have any success setting it up though. Not one for the faint hearted, but a challenge for the Ozbarginer! My next challenge is to get working via the web.
@Hazza: Hi Hazza, Did you manage to resolve your laggy picture with the ispy software? Mine has the same problem with about 7-10fps and all distorted picture and pixelated when trying to record an alarm movement. I'm trying to set up an alarm triggered DVR system but am not having much success with the outdoor camera.
@IMFrugl: Yeah I did actually. As soon as I moved to rtsp over tcp (port 554) the lag/delay was much better. I still get some lag/delays when using IP Cam Viewer, and especially when iSpy/BlueIris is running (two things accessing the cam at the same time). If this is a problem for anyone, I suspect it can be fixed by reducing the bitrate of the SC10IP which is settable in the gui. Either that or access stream 1 which is lower resolution.
@Hazza: Hi Hazza, thanks for that. I'll try that later. I'm taking a break for now! I managed to set up NetCam studio and it works very well (after I figured out how to get the motion detection working). The frames can be delayed but they are all clear with no pixelation. I managed to get the remote viewer working too. The software also has options for Dropbox etc which I will try later. It also came with a good manual from their website which is helpful (unlike the cms software). Thanks again for replying to me.
With no password, I could only get
rtsp://192.168.1.10/user=admin_password=_channel=1_stream=0.sdp
to work
Merrylands are all gone now. Got last 2 indoor ones. Nothing left.
Just trying to set up an SC10IP, the web interface is all in Chinese and there does not appear to be any of the DeviceCFG buttons.
Has anyone found this or worked around it?
Also for anyone needing the files but not wanting to use the CD they can be downloaded here:
http://www.vandsec.com/upload/downlaod/CD_SC10IP.zip
Yes this happened to me just then too. Its a real clunky setup for these compared to the no brainer of the IP900's. I had to use IE instead of chrome and I had to allow an unverified (publisher) activex install which is not easy as IE tries its hardest to block it. Once you get past that you will get a box on the top right which allows you to choose a language. Once you select english and login you will now have the DeviceCFG etc buttons in the top bar. If you still don't, click on the download text on the top right of the login window and allow it to download the latest software. However, even after all this, it is still flawed a bit as the wifi config did not work from the web gui, it just said device parameters saved instead of popping up the wifi config. Here I went and used the Device Manager program which is on the cd, and the wifi config works from there.
Another gotcha, just to confuse things more, with this outdoor model is the power connecter is actually a 5.5mm one not the 3.5mm one that the IP900 and other FOSCAM's use. So if you are looking for a DC extension for the SC10IP do not buy the ones we are all linking to for the IP900 as they are different. At least the 5.5mm ones are readily available too.
Thanks Hazza.
I ended up using a Windows XP VM so I could install the unsigned activeX control it wants to use.
Also multihomed it to 192.168.1.5 and my local IP range so I could connect to initial .10 address, enable DHCP and then connect to new address.
I plan to wire them, so at least I don't need to worry about Wifi.
you can edit the wifi settings in the web gui. When you go Device Config -> Net Service, you double click on the "Wifi" menu entry to bring up the settings menu. Dont just select Wifi and click OK.
Yep your right. Don't follow the instructions, double click Wifi instead of just selecting it.
Ballarat has none - greeted with a friendly staff member when I asked they responded…. "nup" and walked off.
Don't worry go back in a week or two half the stock will have returned. Most customers can't set them up.
Got 8 of them today, thanks OP.
Any Vic stores still have the outdoor? thx
Checked both Rowville and Burwood and both had none
I've got a IP900 yesterday. Anyone can explain me how to see the cam recording via 3g/4g? (I don't understand how to set remote access, DDNS, port fowarding stuffs)
Do they have the same setup as a Foscam FI8918w?
Has anyone installed a Foscam firmware on one?
yes I have a few Foscams - I regularly update firmware and camera software. Access the camera from a browser and find out the current version of the software. Go to the Foscam web site and look up the latest version, you may need to upgrade each version one by one to get to the latest version.
Once there download the firmware/software access the camera from a browser and you will find a place in the software to upgrade firmware. From there point the software to the firmware file and that's it. Wait. Camera will reboot, check the version of your firmware and it should be updated.
Thanks but have you put Foscam firmware on these Kmart ones?
no its not usually possible
Still 15-20 left at Eastland Ringwood (Vic)
Indoor or outdoor?
indoor.. went tonight after I read this :/
At $19 just get one of each lol. Yes there is resolution difference (640x480 for IP900 vs 720p for SC10IP) but in reality it may not be that noticeable. I use the indoor models outside no problems as I prefer the remote pan/tilt. Just need to shelter them from rain under an eave or with a dome etc.