Been looking for a decent NBN plan. 25 down, 5 up is enough for me at the moment and this seems to be the best price for unlimited data with a decent company.
The free modem and connection on the 12 month contract makes it cheaper than most of the other competitors.
Hope it helps someone :)
Isn't NBN just NBN? Neither own the infrastructure. Isn't it government owned?
NBN gets it from the house to the "exchange" (POI) but from there it's up to the provider you're with to backhaul it and link you to the rest of the interwebs…
(sorry for the month later gravedig here, but seen this and thought i'd correct it)
NBN gets it further than your local exchange. In my case NBN (once set up) will connect it all the way from rural SA to either Adelaide or Melbourne. From there it'll use my ISPs (whichever I chose) infrastructure.
On top of that, according to various info released by NBNco, NBNs network will also allow for more local routing. Using my location as an example again, the first point of interconnect for me is Port Augusta. A connection to my neighbor (if they're on NBN too once it's built) would only need to route through Port Augusta, resulting in a much lower ping time than if it were to go through my ISPs infrastructure at Adelaide/Melbourne. Just note this information is from a few years back and may have changed as a result of FTTN.
Basically
You > NBN POI > ISP BackHaul > ISP POI > internet
For more local traffic:
You > NBN POI > Server.
Nice. I was looking at exetel for same price. Exetel comes with free phone service, although there is a connection fee (perhaps you could price match and have it waived). This one also comes with router, which is good, although the included ones aren't usually much chop.
Good find!
Exetel are currently waiving the 12-month contract connection fee until March 31.
Yeah, I noticed that. Though you still need to pay for the modem
Depending on how important WiFi is, and how big your house is, probably better investing $100ish and sourcing a router yourself. Included one is probably the cheapest thing they could possibly find. Probably poor WiFi coverage and would probably lack gigabit ports (if you plan to use wired connection, that's an important feature).
@edshays:
most telco provided modems are utter shite, might be a good option to invest in a good wireless router that won't mysteriously die 3 days after the 12 month warranty ended (source: i worked at a telco for a few years, a shocking amount of modems died in the month after their warranties expired)
I wouldn't trust exetel. They offer good deals occasionally and then terminate you whenever they please- http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2411057
I do have one gripe with Exetel and its that I do experience speed drops as peak times (6-10pm m-f) as my whole neighbourhood binged on Netflix. I have the 25/5 plan and it drops from 21.5Mbps to~2.5-3.5mbps. This means that even at 480pm Netflix stutters. Idk if this is unique to Exetel and their infrastructure allocation but it has improved. This throttling happened almost nightly for the first year, but now it only happens once every couple of weeks.
Are you a heavy user? I am sure this is not because of netflix but shaping by Exetel. I am with them too and experience pretty much the same thing.
@dosada: I use ~250gb out of my 500gb allowance monthly, so no, I wouldn't consider myself a heavy user.
I see its Fast NBN (Tier 1) and Tier 1 speed: Up to 12Mbps download / up to 1 Mbps upload.
that's $59. The next tier is an extra $10, hence $69
From personal experience I wouldn't call MyNetFone "decent"
Do you still need to have a home phone connection?
nope
I had been a MNF customer since 2010 and finally ended my contract with them 1 months ago.
While their service was exceptional in the beginning, it really did deteriorate by the end. Terrible speeds and they were never able to rectify the problem.
You mean their adsl service ?
If so, hard to pinpoint the problem sometimes. ie. Maybe mynetfone fault or maybe optus congestion on the optus dslam/exchange that mynetfone uses.
I've been an ADSL customer since 2011 and never had any speed problems, even over peak times in the evening. Guess it depends on your area?
Do you need a router specifically made for the NBN or can you use any router?
Any router as long as one of the ethernet ports is able to be configured as a WAN port.
Anything with a Gigabit ethernet port (10/100/1000) - you could technically use a non-gigabit ethernet port, but it's not recommended by NBN Co. (or me FWIW)
If it's for a single computer you don't have to use a router. You can just chuck the ethernet cable in to your computer
yes, you pc will be on public IP, and under constant attack, good to have a router.
very bad advice, you should never connect your pc directly to the modem/ntd… you're just looking for trouble if you do
Depends which of the many version of NBN you're getting.
If you're getting FttN, you'll need a modem still.
Thanks fellas
Not a deal. HarbourISP do this as well
Actually cheaper since its $69 per month no connection fee and free router
That's for 12/1 speed. Less than half the speed…
no its not?? 25/5 for $59.90 + $10 for unlimited data……
Happy to be proven wrong. Link?
@Bellpop: thats normal isnt it? They give you the option to upgrade routers..? of course its going to cost more
HarbourISP deal is missing phone with Unlimited mobile, local & nat. calls, if you add just a phone with local and national calls (no mobile) it comes to $79 per month which is more
Is it bits or bytes for the speed?
bits
so its 25 Mbps (25 megabits per second? )
yeah which is technically 3.125 megabytes per second
@lostn: Correct. But you can go for a 100/40 plan which is muhc better than a 30+ Cable with 2.5mbps upload
not bad, but Ive never heard of them
there is no data limit…
I've rarely see an ISP that offers cheap unlimited broadband that doesn't experience major congestion issues.
Or go belly-up.
I've been with ALL spectrums of broadband in Aus, and experienced the highs & CRAZY-lows.
I'll need to have my fingers broken to let go of my ClubTelco connection. Amazing.
good find OP, I have MNF adsl2+ naked (unfortunately no NBN in my area) and I find them good, no problems and the speed slightly increased over last 2 months, plus they upgraded my data recently from 100GB peak/100GB offpeak to 250GB/250GB for free. I find them better than exetel.
Long time MNF customer here too. My 500gb was recently upped to 1tb, awesome for $45. The only problem I've had is during house moves, each time it takes them weeks to get me back online (more a wholesale problem but I don't think they try to push things along at all). I can live with that, as the service is always good.
Also been with Exetel, no comparison. MNF far superior. Exetel have a habit of changing plans and terminating contacts, happened again just recently, the ACCC ripped into them.
Is there no setup fees on the 12 month contract? Seems like there's a $49 fee. It's only $0 for the 24 month plan
If you don't make the final fiber connection from the node to your house, will you still get these speeds?
It will vary depending on the quality of the copper in your area. Short answer is no.
On NBN you should… Even if you're getting FttN…
I'm no advocate for FttN, but the independent evidence so far suggests that you'll achieve 50mbps and likely more at 500m from the pillar.
How many have you installed?
I can tell you that generally speaking, particularly in established urban areas, you won't see full speed (it may be close, however). There are simply too many issues with copper and Telstra have done zero copper network maintenance in the past decade (they were expecting NBN to replace it). Whether it's partial shorts, earth to one or both legs, foreign battery (all these being very common), or more complex issues, such as loaded pairs, inferior jointing, aluminium mains cabling, etc, etc, etc…
Copper in the ground only lasts 10-15 years, so the bulk of the network is arriving at, or already beyond, EOL. Even aging scotchlocks under your house and in your roof can (and does) have a huge impact.
@bazzaa:
I'm yet to be activated, will happen in the next few months.
But the FttN thread on whirlpool is reporting most people out to 500m syncing at or above 100/40.
From that thread, and by extrapolating the stats from my ADSL connection to the TopHat next to the Node, our copper must be in pretty good shape, so even at our ~500m range from the Pillar & Node (they're right next to each other) I'm expecting at least 80mbps down.
I'm very much aware of the deficiencies of the copper network, but evidence to date suggests that the speeds are above expectation.
@scubacoles: And I repeat, how many have you installed?
All I do is corporate NBN/VOIP setups, along with server and workstation installs. I have yet to see a FTTN install run at full speed, the average is around 80-90% of full speed. It does depend a lot on your area, but if you're in a metro or established urban area, you almost certainly won't get full speed.
I hope you do, but it's not the norm, despite what a handful of posters on WP may have implied.
@bazzaa: Do you have a ballpark estimate of how much it would cost to run fiber from home to the node within 500m?
@lostn:
NBNco essentially wont do it.
The whole upgrade application process exists solely to check a box that it can be done.
The quotes so far obtained have been astronomical!
@lostn: As mentioned, it's practical on paper only, in many cases. Cabling of that type isn't a trivial job, so expect large and varying costs, assuming you can find someone who will tackle it. Also, it's 'fibre', we're still not a state of the US, not officially anyhow. :)
@bazzaa: Errmmm.. so if they won't connect it to the home, isn't it a bit of a waste investing in all that "fibre" when no one can take full advantage of its potential? If it's going to bottlenecked by the existing copper, may as well seek a cheaper option.
Just got off phone with MNF, they are saying there is $49 Connection fee on 12 month plan..is there a link someone can share that states free connection on 12 month?
does it use telstra or optus nbn?