I did not need another drill, but the price is so tempting, bought it anyway. There is also couple of batteries on special too, I got a spare 14.4v 1.5 ah for $45. Wanted to buy 18v 4.2 ah one for $117 but it was out of stock. Few hours left. It was mentioned in a deal posted in december 2015 but it is expired as the code is fresh ;)
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it is for me, looks like I need help
Just don't expect effective help from within the asylum.
Brushless, not brushless? Is this a good drill?
It's a clearance item & there is a reason for that…
what is the reason? I can't find it anywhere cheaper
Because it's brushed
quick search found that it is brushless
edit: in combo kit Impact Driver is brushless (EY75A1), not sure about one on sale
@meanozbgnr: from panasonic page.
The tool's beefy four-brush motor puts out power and takes on difficult tasks with much less chance of burning the motor out on jobs users sometimes expect the tool to do.
@bluepanther: I got it wrong from kit description, for some reason in the kit the other one is brushless EY75A1
@hamwhisperer: read the description of kit and only later found that the other one in a kit is brushless, not the one in my post :(
You can't find it cheaper anywhere probably because it's only sold at masters. There are plenty of other drills with better specs much cheaper
Could you please tell me the better specced drill with much better price? I'd return the one I bought and buy a better one. And FYI this drill is sold elsewhere.
when did I give you a neg? Why not to share a real bargain with other people?
I'm considering an Ozito of all things, only $160 - brushless, 18v, 2 batteries.
http://www.bunnings.com.au/ozito-18v-brushless-drill-driver_…
These any good or no?
Ozito is not bad, I got an older from garage sale for $2 with 12v niCd battery and it is still going. For DIY Ozito is more than enough, Panasonic is more trade (heavy duty) thing.
These any good or no?
That is like asking if a Loochumwah 5" Dual SIM phone is "good or not?" in a thread about an Iphone 6.
It's also like comparing dried dog shit to a gold bar.
Anything with an ozito badge is rubbish, Panasonic cordless drills are fantastic. Hope that helps.
No not really, this is a $160 18v brushless, the closest comparison from competing companies seems to be around $250 if you want 2 batteries, 18v, brushless etc.
I understand it's not going to be some $600 dewalt but /occassionally/ the cheap chinese crap is actually, not that bad.
Considering my last Bosch (green, sigh) died after only 4 years and I paid $150 for that (2 battery, 14v, brushed) I dunno.
No not really, this is a $160 18v brushless, the closest comparison from competing companies seems to be around $250 if you want 2 batteries, 18v, brushless etc.
Yes, however cannot compare a $160 Ozito with a $250 other brand.
If it was me, I would buy a decent quality drill, not an el-cheapo one with a long features list. I've owned a few Ozito drills, and they are horrid. For $20 or even $50 as a throw away item, then fair enough… but paying $160 for an Ozito is frightening.
For example, where will you get a new battery in a couple of year's time? The batteries are what usually dies, not the drill itself.
Think of it this way… what is the best drill you can buy for $160?
Panasonic are a top brand. If thinking about it then just get it.
Got old brushed hitashi and they rock. Newer brushless makitas I also own and no where near the power.
agree, if the tool does the job well I don't mind it being brushed/less
That's what she said…
if the tool does the job well
it would do the job 'better' if it was brushless…
I'd love to test that. As I bought the brushed one, could you buy the brushless and we can meet and test both of them and post the results on Ozbargain ;)
I'd love to test that.
Quicker, cheaper and easier just to google the reviews…
I got the new Ryobi brushless recently.
http://www.totaltools.com.au/blog/brushless-vs-brushed-motor…
@jv: Happy to test mine vs Ryobi. When do we meet? I need to do the fence sometime soon (those panels from bunnings), so we can do it at my place.
Doubt yours will last longer with all the Ryobi 5.0Ah batteries I stocked up with during that Bunnings deal last month…
@jv: well, you'll just have to wait till I get 4.2Ah batteries. In the meantime if you see a good deal for Panasonic battery, please, let me know. My fence can wait for another year :)
The same drill yes. THE point is that one spec doesn't tell the whole story.
Panasonic is a far superior brand
This particular drill, has 50% less torque than a Ryobi that is about half the price… You must have a very 'unique' definition of 'superior'.
If I can do a better job with a tool that costs half the money, I don't care how 'superior' the Panasonic is…
it is 40% more.
Panasonic
Maximum Torque - Instant (Nm) 37.5
http://www.panasonic.com/au/consumer/power-tools/tough-tool-…
Ryobi
Torque 60 Nm
http://ryobi.com.au/18v-one-brushless-drill-kit
(60-37.5) / 37.5 = 60% more torque
@jv: If all you care about is torque then you should've spent more and bought a second hand AEG brushless drill?
Seeing as though you love "torque" so much - maybe I should mention my AEG impact driver has 200nm of torque!!! WOW. It must be so much better then your Ryobi!!!
Theres more to the quality of a tool then how much torque is in a drill.
Theres more to the quality of a tool then how much torque is in a drill.
I'm happy with my 2 year warranty and 2 x 5.0Ah batteries… :) (oh and 60% more torque than the Panasonic)
bought a second hand drill with more TORQUE!!!
That wouldn't come with a 2 year warranty…
60 Nm is perfect for me, my last drill was around 45Nm and the batteries were dying…
I thought it was the most important
you thought wrong then…
The Ryobi does a better job for me. For what I got it for and for work around the house.
It's cheap, I have plenty of Ryobi batteries and it has a great warranty…
AEG comes with a 6 year warranty and more torque.
and most likely a lot more than I wanted to pay…
@jv:
Your Ryobi is rated 60Nm at 440 RPM (low)
This Panasonic is 42Nm at 600 RPM (low) with a 4.2 Ah battery or 38 Nm at 600 RPM with the 2.0 Ah battery.
Proper specs https://www.panasonic-powertools.eu/pt/129.htm (not the abridged ones you linked to)
(60-37.5) / 37.5 = 60% more torque
The reason your Ryobi seems to have "more torque" is simply because it is geared down more.
Also, since the Ryobi is a cheap "budget" brand, they don't actually state the full specs - the 60Nm is probably only with the biggest battery (5 Ah?). The specs might even be overstated… who knows?
These are Drill / Drivers, not rattle guns. Power (rather than torque) is what actually matters - the Ryobi is at most 60 x 440 = 26,400 worth of power (in low gear), whilst this Panasonic is 42 x 600 = 25,200 which is almost identical power.
In any case, Torque is not the metric for defining the quality or performance of power tools. A drill that has twice the torque because it drills at half the speed is not "better".
the 60Nm is probably only with the biggest battery (5 Ah?)
Nope, it comes with a 2.5 battery… I got the 5.0Ah batteries virtually free from the deal on Ozbargain last month.
Power (rather than torque) is what actually matters
Not for drilling…
@jv:
Ryobi
Torque 60 Nm
So what the Ryobi is still a toy. It's like comparing a AMG V8 against a Falcondore V8, on paper the Falcondore might look better in some regards but in the real world the AMG is far superior in all areas and the one you want.
I'll stick with my DeWALT DCD795 which whilst it has the same Torque is far superior in every way and yes I have used both. And my DeWALT DCF895 Impact Driver with 170Nm.
So what the Ryobi is still a toy.
Works fine for me, and saved me a lot of money…
I can also use the same batteries with my other tools…
@jv:
Nope, it comes with a 2.5 battery
Yes, I know it does. And the Ryobi's specs of 60 Nm are with the BIGGER batteries that you purchased separately. Therefor, you need to compare with a Panasonic that is using a larger optional battery pack.
Not for drilling…
ROFL, what?
When you are drilling holes, you need POWER (torque multiplied by RPM). Power is the amount of work that it can do. You'd rarely be pushing so hard on the drill that the difference between 42 and 60 Nm would be relevant when drilling holes… perhaps a large holesaw and running it so hard your were stalling the motor (which would root the drill bit anyway).
Then again, the Panasonic with slightly less pressure applied would rotate the drill faster so it would get the same overall drilling speed.
You are still misunderstanding what torque is, and erroneously using it as a product comparison. A 6.2L Holden Commodore with 570 Nm of torque is not a "better car" or a "faster car" than a BMW M3/M4 with 550 Nm of torque.
with the BIGGER batteries that you purchased separately.
I got them free thanks to Ozbargain… :)
When you are drilling holes, you need POWER (torque multiplied by RPM)
Nope, you need torque. It is a rotational force that does the work… Physics 101…
@jv:
Nope, you need torque. It is a rotational force that does the work… Physics 101…
ROFL - You DEFINELY need to read a physics text book, JV
There was a Bosch 18V drill with spare battery for $149 at Bunnings on Sat.
I know one mate with the Bosch drill, he wants to get Milwaukee. Some tradies use/like Milwaukee some like Panasonic. Bosch for $149 is a good buy, I just bought Panasonic after reading through reviews plus I saw the RRP and how much I'm saving. Hope I made the right choice :)
Trust me tradies don't use panasonic and we use 24v so don't talk sh!t
so far I can see you using inappropriate negative vote and groundless comments.
Trust me tradies don't use panasonic
Lol. Couldn't be further from the truth. And festool is only for home handymen???
Sounds like you're trying to justify your purchase to everyone? If there are cheaper brand name 18v drills (with spare batteries) how is this Panasonic deal better? I'd rather the Bosch thanks.
I'm just sharing what I see as a bargain with other people, there are cheaper brands, do your own research and buy what you think is good for you.
If you know a deal for a similar specced drill with better price, please share it here. Probably I should have included the specs of the Panasonic drill. Here are some of them: IP56, Dual voltage - can use 18V and 14.4V batteries, Light weight 1.7kg (incl. battery), High performance with max. 42Nm, 18-stage clutch plus drill position, 13mm high-capacity drill chuck (keyless), Electric speed control, Electric brake, Reversible, Compact body, LED light
looked at this one a little while back (has been on clearance for a while) Panasonic make great drills but I think it was the lack of a gearbox? that killed it for me.
Panasonic make great drills but I think it was the lack of a gearbox? that killed it for me.
Well, I dunno why you made that decision, and on what basis you made the claim?
This drill has a 2-speed gearbox with low 80 – 600 rpm and high 220 – 1.750 rpm
The lack of gearbox must have been a different drill then, it would have been the high cost for other skins and batteries if I wanted to go down that path. If you just need a drill that is going to have to stand up to high use this would be a good choice.
Also - i am not sure you can get cash rewards if you use the 10% off code - but i could be wrong
New OzBargain motto?